dave - Mon, 2008-05-05 10:38
May 5, 2008
May 5, 2008
19:04:56 alicemercer -> - Good for me?
19:04:58 JenWagner -> - hmmm maybe it is my system -- choppy again
19:05:02 JenWagner -> - gonna restart
19:05:11 JoseRodriguez -> - good here
19:05:13 alicemercer -> - Very SLIGHT buzz
19:05:40 Cathy E -> - Have a great show - in-laws just arrived
19:05:46 alicemercer -> - But I have different head phone
19:05:47 JenW -> - now ustream is okay -- for me
19:08:02 JenM -> - iPhones for Canada ... http://www.9to5mac.com/rogers_iphone_canada ... and ... http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/30/free-atandt-wi-fi-access-for-iphones/
19:08:24 sroseman -> - yahoo
19:08:24 courosa -> - hopefully the 3G
19:08:32 sroseman -> - costly
19:08:50 alicemercer -> - ONLY provider
19:09:11 JL -> - http://addictomatic.com/ Addictomatic: Inhale the Web
19:09:21 JenW -> - just iphone??? hmmmm how does Starbucks know what I am using ?? :)
19:09:39 courosa -> - the deep web
19:09:46 JohnS -> - Informal Style of Electronic Messages Is Showing Up in Schoolwork, Study Finds : http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/education/25writing.html?_r=2&oref=slo... AND Blogging helps encourage teen writing : http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-news/?i=53663;_hbguid=e0da166a-2d66-... AND Actual Pew Internet & American Life Study: http://pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Writing_Report_FINAL3.pdf
19:10:09 alicemercer -> - WoAH, this is sucky!
19:10:26 JL -> - what is sucky?
19:10:28 mrsdurff -> - Alice please!
19:10:30 JenW -> - http://addictomatic.com/topic/twitter did a twitter search :)
19:10:36 mrsdurff -> - both of you
19:10:39 alicemercer -> - The sound
19:10:44 alicemercer -> - sorry, the content is marvelous
19:10:46 mrsdurff -> - fine for me
19:10:50 JL -> - ustream or ETT A?
19:10:54 alicemercer -> - USTREAM
19:10:57 mrsdurff -> - realplayer
19:10:57 alicemercer -> - better
19:10:59 JenW -> - ustream is a-OK for me now
19:11:04 JenW -> - had to restart the browser though
19:11:05 dave -> - http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,145384-c,windowsbugs/article.html
19:11:30 mrsdurff -> - ustream doesn't work on this puter-probably sth needs updating
19:11:38 courosa -> - hahaha windows is funny
19:11:58 JenM -> - 31 Day Comment Challenge: http://commentchallenge.wikispaces.com/ ... and ... http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2008/04/28/the-comment-challenge-31-days-to...
19:12:05 Gary -> - Yahoo is apparently not funny
19:12:23 mrsdurff -> - good word dave
19:12:30 mrsdurff -> - thanks
19:12:40 JenW -> - Kim Cofino is doing a great job with this --
19:13:08 JL -> - http://podbreeze.wordpress.com/ PodBreeze
19:13:46 courosa -> - tell us how you really feel jeff?
19:13:50 JL -> - http://mediafly.com/Welcome.aspx Mediafly: Get ALL your podcasts from ONE place delivered ANYWHERE
19:14:50 JohnS -> - Top 100 Tools for Learning : http://c4lpt.co.uk/recommended/pdf.html
19:15:28 alicemercer -> - about spell check and chatlingo: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/30/AR200804...
19:15:31 courosa -> - we should qualify the word "free"
19:15:45 dave -> - http://techdirt.com/articles/20080427/233549966.shtml
19:15:51 JenW -> - why does DELICIOUS not like PDF's???? anyone know??
19:16:01 matt montagne -> - hey y'all
19:16:03 mrsdurff -> - hi matt!
19:16:24 dianerchen -> Room 4: Hi This is Diane and I am going to be here for AASL Region 4 members tonight who are chatting about Libraries, Schools, and what is happening in the states of VA, NC, SC, TN, WV, KY. I will post this message several times in case you drop by. Thanks.
19:16:36 JenW -> - hmmm where is Sharon???
19:16:37 dianerchen -> Room 4: [b]Hi This is Diane and I am going to be here for AASL Region 4 members tonight who are chatting about Libraries, Schools, and what is happening in the states of VA, NC, SC, TN, WV, KY. I will post this message several times in case you drop by. Thanks.
19:16:42 JenM -> - Becta emerging technologies for learning ... http://partners.becta.org.uk/index.php?section=rh&rid=13768
19:17:01 matt montagne -> - hey Mrs. Durff
19:18:21 JL -> - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7373717.stm BBC NEWS | Technology | Luminaries look to the future web
19:18:22 alicemercer -> - UGH!
19:18:24 alicemercer -> - Not happy
19:18:32 mrsdurff -> - we're sorry
19:18:38 mrsdurff -> - why?
19:18:41 JL -> - http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/01/canadian-bank-hands-out-free-eee-pcs/ Canadian bank hands out free Eee PCs - Engadget
19:18:46 courosa -> - yeah canada!
19:19:02 JL -> - http://rivavx.de/index.php?encoder&L=3 Riva VX: Riva FLV Encoder
19:19:22 courosa -> - my students use RIVA a lot
19:19:26 JohnS -> - Worldometers: http://www.worldometers.info/
19:19:50 alicemercer -> - Can I ask a question? What do kids ALWAYS go for internet explorer instead of firefox?
19:20:01 sroseman -> - Shucks, I already have my bank account with RBC
19:20:07 mrsdurff -> - inclucation
19:20:23 mrsdurff -> - spelled wrong
19:20:31 mrsdurff -> - inculcation
19:20:39 JenW -> - hmmmm is there a limit on how long I have to have the bank account??
19:20:52 sroseman -> - a loong time
19:20:58 JenW -> - :)
19:20:58 dave -> - http://drupal.org/project/search_files
19:21:19 Gary -> - But it is RBC - they should be able to afford it considering their profits last year.
19:21:27 courosa -> - nice module
19:21:35 alicemercer -> - JW, I'd be careful of "money transfers" and getting homeland security attention. Lol you could do a movie about that.
19:21:54 JenW -> - LOL
19:21:56 JenM -> - More cool stuff out of Canada ... job at Athabasca ... http://www1.athabascau.ca/hr/careers/prof/p00466
19:22:00 JenW -> - money -- what would that be??
19:22:17 JenW -> - ohhhh job openings
19:22:30 mrsdurff -> - you have a job
19:22:40 tansmom -> - here here durff LOL
19:22:44 JL -> - http://www.math4mobile.com/ Math4Mobile - The mLearning Way
19:23:04 JohnS -> - A Sociologist Says Students Aren't So Web-Wise After All: http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/article/2943/a-sociologist-says-student...
19:23:21 alicemercer -> - Do I know much?
19:23:38 mrsdurff -> - yes
19:23:52 JenW -> - I would agree that students at my school are NOT webwise
19:24:03 JenW -> - and not techie -- but LOL, they think they are
19:24:15 Gary -> - They know FaceBook!
19:24:28 mrsdurff -> - they know SMS
19:24:29 JenW -> - yes, because they are allowed to play during their Technology Class
19:24:29 dave -> - http://drupal.org/project/flashvideo http://drupal.org/project/rdf
19:24:45 mrsdurff -> - excuse me?
19:24:54 mrsdurff -> - i take exception
19:24:55 JenW -> - which is WHY they don't have skills -- they just know how to play chess
19:24:59 courosa -> - nice!
19:25:02 JenW -> - but -- don't get me going
19:25:20 JohnS -> - They have very limited skillsets. They know some things well, but there's not a lot of depth.
19:25:22 mrsdurff -> - i take double exception
19:25:33 JenW -> - does not mean that chess is not a skill :) Didn't mean that
19:25:48 JenM -> - How to use the FlipCamera ... http://langwitches.org/blog/2008/04/28/flipcamera-by-puredigital/
19:25:50 mrsdurff -> - my learners may not play chess
19:26:03 mrsdurff -> - we use RSS
19:26:05 JenW -> - Lisa -- I am not the teacher -- so I have no say
19:26:12 mrsdurff -> - we make podcasts
19:26:18 mrsdurff -> - we make movies
19:26:35 mrsdurff -> - we use blogs, wikis, and the dreaded games
19:26:42 JL -> - p://www.pangeaday.org/
19:26:46 JenW -> - langswitches is sylvia??
19:27:01 alicemercer -> - Hey I have like FOUR of them on my laptop!
19:27:03 dave -> - @alec make up your mind.
19:27:10 alicemercer -> - I just don't understand?
19:27:13 mrsdurff -> - i think so
19:27:14 JenM -> - @jw ... I think so
19:27:36 courosa -> - allright, i;m staying
19:27:44 mrsdurff -> - @alice 4 what?
19:27:46 JohnS -> - Rcampus: http://www.rcampus.com/
19:27:49 JenW -> - Silvia Tolisano
19:27:54 JL -> - http://www.pangeaday.org
19:28:07 mrsdurff -> - @alec promises, promises
19:28:34 JenW -> - what does Alice not understand
19:28:35 dave -> - http://www.audiobooksforfree.com/screen_main.asp
19:28:43 JenM -> - Looking for a topic for Comment Month? .... try this ... http://learningcircuits.blogspot.com/2008/05/learning-design-differences...
19:28:44 courosa -> - well ... maybe i will leave, depends what dave says. :-)
19:29:03 mrsdurff -> - gotcha
19:29:26 alicemercer -> - The world in re: Pangea day
19:29:33 alicemercer -> - Sorry Off topic now
19:29:36 mrsdurff -> - oh - neighbor smoking outside my door - i'm leaving
19:29:58 dave -> - the place is always nicer when you're here alec :)
19:31:36 alicemercer -> - Olympus?
19:31:41 JenW -> - I use the ipod -- add on microphone -- and the 2nd graders are FINE with it
19:31:58 courosa -> - I have the Zoom H2 ... it's terrific!
19:32:23 courosa -> - And I have had the M-Audio, and the Edirol R09 ... H2 is my favourite.
19:32:29 matt montagne -> - I use the Zoom H2, but haven't figured out best settings
19:32:33 JenW -> - ohhh DOORPRIZES on EdTechTalk -- by John S
19:32:47 matt montagne -> - also have the Olympus WS110
19:32:48 Alvin Trusty -> - Panasonic RR US395S
19:33:05 alicemercer -> - No $50 option
19:33:14 Alvin Trusty -> - Mine is $80
19:33:18 tansmom -> - how much is the zoom H2?
19:33:20 courosa -> - the $50 options are often proprietary
19:33:21 JohnS -> - Fontstruct: http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/
19:33:29 JenW -> - the mic was $49.95 -- the ipod was $249
19:33:35 alicemercer -> - I use a $30 but no line in, and only semi compressed .wav output (PITA)
19:33:53 courosa -> - http://www.nikkor2d2.com/http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage....
19:34:01 Eric -> - You can make your own fonts with a Tablet PC.
19:34:08 matt montagne -> - Olympus does create a wmv file, but can easily be converted to mp3 with switch
19:34:15 dave -> - http://www.olpcnews.com/people/leadership/olpc_new_president_laptop_proj...
19:34:30 courosa -> - http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1916
19:34:52 courosa -> - riiiiiiiiiight
19:35:03 tansmom -> - @courosa thanks
19:35:06 courosa -> - Windows will destroy the initiative
19:35:11 alicemercer -> - Hmm, even more minimalist, and STIL NO PEDAGOGY
19:35:13 JenW -> - so did something go down at OLPC???
19:35:28 JenW -> - was it not what they had hoped?? and so change of power??
19:35:30 alicemercer -> - What, there wasn't much to begin with
19:35:33 JenW -> - or opposite??
19:35:59 JenW -> - just the boast of a CHILD has a laptop --
19:36:16 alicemercer -> - Yeah, they can get up to the level of American kids on finding cheat codes and p*rn with that approach
19:36:19 JenW -> - change of power so early in a project though is kinda SUSPICIOUS -- right??
19:36:41 Gary -> - Not worrying about what is included - those Nigerian students that Dave likes so much will be pleased.
19:36:46 courosa -> - OLPC is a bust, and it's getting worse. It's just a marketing machine.
19:37:07 JenW -> - or they will go bankrupt -- and lots of people will lose money - and kids won't get computers
19:37:29 matt montagne -> - I don't think it is just a marketing machine...I really think they helped drive the market
19:37:33 chellouise -> - it was a noble idea, but things weren't thought through nearly enough!
19:37:34 JohnS -> - but they will, Jen, because there's another half dozen devices that didn't exist before.
19:37:50 alicemercer -> - Hey, at least they weren't learning how to be a spam farm?
19:37:52 courosa -> - but it's marketing for technology, not for pedagogy or the good use of tech in education
19:37:53 JenM -> - Share and embed documents ... http://www.docstoc.com/
19:38:00 JenW -> - hmmmm - this would be a Good OPEN MIC conversatoin
19:38:17 alicemercer -> - I can see that, writing , how to use english in a SPAM solicitiation
19:38:29 dave -> - @matt it did help the market... but i don't htink they intended that
19:38:38 JL -> - http://openpd.wikispaces.com/
19:38:45 courosa -> - scribd is a nice as well
19:39:09 JenM -> - @alec ... yep ... I saw your dissertaion on scribd :)
19:39:20 JenW -> - getting lost on that FONT site
19:39:21 sroseman -> - I use scribd
19:39:22 alicemercer -> - Which will those Nigerian kids learn with OLPC: http://indexed.blogspot.com/2008/04/after-first-enumeration-required.html
19:39:26 JohnS -> - Hello World in 366 Languages: http://www.roesler-ac.de/wolfram/hello.htm
19:39:31 courosa -> - they've done a great job, robin and darren
19:39:40 chellouise -> - OpenPd is a GOOD thing
19:39:43 courosa -> - hello world!
19:39:54 alicemercer -> - So I can crib it?
19:40:00 alicemercer -> - Thanks!
19:40:03 Nedra -> - I like the OpenPD
19:40:04 JohnS -> - A Vision of Students Today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCJ46vyR9o
19:40:10 JenM -> - All 67 links we did and didn't get to ... http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20080504
19:40:15 chellouise -> - that's a fun video
19:40:37 chellouise -> - fun and thought provoking...
19:41:07 courosa -> - from michael wesch, ksu
19:41:10 JL -> - http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/281548258/article.pl
19:41:11 JohnS -> - Spam reaches 30-year anniversary : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7380788.stm
19:41:26 alicemercer -> - Oh, here is that spam link again from me: http://indexed.blogspot.com/2008/04/after-first-enumeration-required.html
19:41:29 chellouise -> - @JenM that Doonesbury cartoon from last week popped up a couple of times at university this week.
19:41:49 alicemercer -> - Anyone see Dan Meyer's NECC shirts?
19:42:02 courosa -> - http://www.nikkor2d2.com/ ... buy this dave!
19:42:04 JenM -> - tag your link ... "for:edtechtalk" ...
19:42:04 chellouise -> - how many here are going to NECC?
19:42:29 chellouise -> - Jen is WAAAY ahead of you. :-)
19:42:31 sroseman -> - the tory of Stuff Get ALL your podcasts from ONE place delivered ANYWHERE
19:42:33 JenW -> - it is OVER??
19:42:35 JenW -> - already??
19:42:46 tansmom -> - wow, that was fast
19:42:49 JenW -> - wow
19:42:54 alicemercer -> - Cause we're all in this together?
19:42:56 JenW -> - flew by
19:43:05 JenW -> - <---not going to NECC
19:43:06 chellouise -> - @JenW we usually have a little after show discussion as well
19:43:07 alicemercer -> - That's why it's Pangea
19:43:12 tansmom -> - :(
19:43:14 alicemercer -> - were is sound?
19:43:20 tansmom -> - no NECC
19:43:28 chellouise -> - @alicemercer Can we sing the song? HAHAHAHA!
19:43:30 sroseman -> - http://www.storyofstuff.com/
19:43:32 tansmom -> - for jen, but for me yes
19:43:42 JenW -> - but I will be there VIRTUALLY
19:43:55 chellouise -> - @JenW me too
19:44:01 JenW -> - and might make buttons for people to wear -- I am JenW's friend :) Helping her attend virtually
19:44:10 chellouise -> - LOL!
19:44:12 tansmom -> - ohh, I want one LOL
19:44:22 JenW -> - would that not be funny
19:44:22 courosa -> - people need to let go
19:44:25 chellouise -> - I'd wear one, but nobody would see it!
19:44:46 tansmom -> - I could ustream you and carry you around on my laptop all day
19:44:48 JenW -> - Courosa?? Let go of what??
19:44:53 courosa -> - there is not a good open content repository for moodle
19:45:01 courosa -> - very few people are doing great stuff
19:45:08 Nedra -> - I'm going to my first NECC so excited
19:45:13 JenW -> - I know a lot of people doing great stuff --- honest
19:45:15 Gary -> - Some good news of OLP
19:45:17 JenW -> - but they are elementary age
19:45:21 chellouise -> - oooh Nedrea, you'll have to tell us all cout it
19:45:26 JenW -> - so they go under the radar a lot
19:45:28 matt montagne -> - chat room is wonky for me
19:45:30 chellouise -> - that should say all about it
19:45:37 Nedra -> - I will chellouise
19:45:44 JenW -> - Brent Coley is doing great stuff
19:45:53 JenW -> - Kim Cofino is doing great stuff
19:45:55 courosa -> - @jenw learning objects ... or anything else you build your career on, things change, perspecitives change
19:46:32 alicemercer -> - Nedra, you aren't from Sac are you?
19:46:38 alicemercer -> - Oh, I'll be at NECC
19:46:43 courosa -> - too many educators refuse to be flexible
19:46:46 mrsdurff -> - jenW is doing great stuff
19:46:55 JenW -> - jenw -- is evolving
19:46:56 Nedra -> - Alice, nope
19:47:12 Nedra -> - Alice I'm from Utica, NY
19:47:16 alicemercer -> - Sorry, know another Nedra here.
19:47:20 JenM -> - @alec ... http://designedtoinspire.com/drupal/node/549#comment-1650
19:47:30 Gary -> - Good news about OLPC http://www.technologyreview.com/Biztech/20572/
19:47:37 alicemercer -> - Will enjoy seeing you at NECC. We'll have an EdTech meetup I assume?
19:47:41 Nedra -> - Alice, cool, I've never met another Nedra lol
19:47:51 chellouise -> - Oh you all are making me jealous!
19:47:54 JenW -> - Courosa -- not sure wat you meant --
19:47:57 alicemercer -> - Sorry, sorry
19:48:02 chellouise -> - I had a student named Nedra
19:48:27 JenW -> - hmmm hope he comes back
19:48:47 dianerchen -> Room 4: I'm back
19:48:52 mrsdurff -> - the courses i have seen that reside on moodle are for pay courses
19:48:58 JenW -> - yeah -- he is back
19:49:14 mrsdurff -> - desire2learn and globalschoolhouse
19:49:20 courosa -> - almost impossible to chat here, so slow, sorry jen
19:49:27 JenW -> - No worries Courosa
19:49:32 JenW -> - glad you came back
19:49:48 mrsdurff -> - really jl?
19:49:48 JenW -> - JL, JM, DC -- what are the age limits on the TOS of EdTechTalk LOLOL
19:49:50 tansmom -> - my kids love to chat/connect
19:49:51 alicemercer -> - I can't cuss in chat? OH I can't do that anyway because of filter...
19:49:55 mrsdurff -> - when?
19:50:03 courosa -> - i agree with you, oers as a n evolution ... learning objects is the wrong terminology
19:50:10 mrsdurff -> - my kids too
19:50:12 tansmom -> - yeah, what age?
19:50:13 JenW -> - I thought they were talking today about grade levels -- not students
19:50:20 matt montagne -> - I've been doing webcasting with kids for my interencasts
19:50:23 murcha -> - my kids also love to hcat and connect
19:50:25 alicemercer -> - Can't skype, but we could listen?
19:50:30 JenW -> - Courosa -- I would love to chat more with you about this
19:50:33 courosa -> - but the chat lag is impossible
19:50:41 JenW -> - but I am younger level -- you are High School -- correct??
19:50:44 tansmom -> - cool idea
19:50:45 JL -> - are others having chat lag issues?
19:50:46 courosa -> - @yes, let's somet time
19:51:24 murcha -> - What age are elementary students? Are they 5-9 yrs old
19:51:32 JenW -> - I consider 4 - 12
19:51:38 montagne#2 -> - I've been doing some interncasts with my 8th grade media students...
19:51:43 tansmom -> - mine are 8yrs old
19:51:44 montagne#2 -> - they've done great...
19:51:49 JohnS -> - I think they're talking about K-6th grade, so maybe up to age 12.
19:51:53 alicemercer -> - 5 - 12 is elementary for me (up to sixth grade)
19:52:06 JenW -> - this tuesday we are talking with a 5th grade teachers who is podcasting with his students
19:52:06 murcha -> - so is elementary different description depending on where you are in the US
19:52:13 JenW -> - 5th grade teacher
19:52:22 alicemercer -> - What if they have a permission slip already for their school?
19:52:24 JenW -> - and also creating podcasts FOR his students
19:52:30 alicemercer -> - YES!
19:52:36 montagne#2 -> - I'm going to actually teach webcasting as part of my media class next year...
19:52:40 alicemercer -> - If they already have permission slip it should be okay
19:52:53 montagne#2 -> - parents will be signing off on an agreement...
19:53:02 chellouise -> - Oh montagne what fun they will have
19:53:07 JenW -> - LOL -- I was kinda kidding about the TOS -- but okay
19:53:11 alicemercer -> - Didn't we have this discussion in re: arthus?
19:53:13 montagne#2 -> - they've been a total blast
19:53:15 alicemercer -> - Cause he is a minor
19:53:22 montagne#2 -> - I'm doing one the week after next as my 3rd interncast
19:53:28 montagne#2 -> - the kids are a total riot
19:53:35 JenW -> - it got very quiet
19:53:36 alicemercer -> - I'd like to chat about this since I teach elementary
19:54:06 chellouise -> - Did everybody leave you Jen?
19:54:10 murcha -> - Time zones are annoying if we want to join in with anything
19:54:10 mrsdurff -> - call in alice
19:54:15 montagne#2 -> - @chellouise...they are already thinking about their guest for our next show
19:54:40 tansmom -> - I would love to do this- maybe do a test run sometime before school is out
19:54:45 chellouise -> - @montagne SWEET! What topics have they been casting about?
19:54:52 montagne#2 -> - I did one student webcast about a month ago, and after that they all wanted to do this again...I was shocked
19:54:58 JenW -> - hmmmmm on all shows??
19:55:01 JenW -> - or just this show??
19:55:05 montagne#2 -> - they were all at home, they all installed skype, it was cool
19:55:11 dianerchen -> Room 4: http://regioniv.wikispaces.com/
19:55:40 chellouise -> - how neat and what a good way to get them engaged in the learning material
19:55:42 montagne#2 -> - Topics included: eeePC discussion, Vista OS, open source, browsers, iPhone hacks, etc
19:55:44 JohnS -> - We're just talking about this one show. They'd probably participate as part of a class.
19:55:48 murcha -> - How old were your students @montagne#2. Neat idea
19:55:50 JohnS -> - They're talking about doing it during the school day.
19:55:58 montagne#2 -> - @mucha...kids are 14
19:56:12 JenW -> - OKAY
19:56:19 montagne#2 -> - Here is the recording from my first show...
19:56:25 JenW -> - but how would you verify that the child did NOT sign the disclaimer/TOS
19:56:35 JenW -> - that the parent released it??
19:56:37 montagne#2 -> - unfortunately I was a knuckelehead and forgot to start the archving until 30 mins in
19:56:47 JenW -> - I think you would be getting into a bit of interesting territory
19:56:54 mrsdurff -> - :)
19:57:11 montagne#2 -> - http://www.webcastacademy.net/node/2036
19:57:15 JenW -> - we can ask Brent on Tuesday about what he does
19:57:24 JenW -> - he has 5th graders and they post to iTunes
19:57:26 chellouise -> - This is an interesting discussion. Does anyone think we Americans have too much fear about using these technologies?
19:57:32 dianerchen -> Room 4: http://regioniv.wikispaces.com/
19:57:33 tansmom -> - so when we popped into ustream and chatted with KJ and kids, it was not ok?
19:57:41 JL -> - YEEEEESSSSS
19:57:47 montagne#2 -> - http://www.webcastacademy.net/node/1987 oops...this is the one with the audio file
19:57:53 JenW -> - tans -- is the parent didn't think so -- there could be consequences
19:58:06 tansmom -> - yikes-
19:58:07 mrsdurff -> - i disagree
19:58:09 JenW -> - I would disagree Alice -- especially if the show is AFTER school hours
19:58:24 JenW -> - if we are taking 8 - 3 yes
19:58:27 JenW -> - but an evening show
19:58:33 JenW -> - yes
19:58:38 mrsdurff -> - go alice!
19:58:47 montagne#2 -> - but what is school now?? Does it only happen from 8-3??
19:58:52 JenW -> - lol -- i have been reprimanded :)
19:59:09 montagne#2 -> - For me the AUP is 24/7
19:59:11 JenW -> - does the aup cover 24??
19:59:18 JenW -> - really?? that would be excellent
19:59:19 tansmom -> - so aup should cover more..
19:59:29 JohnS -> - If they're participating on their own, not as part of a class, or under the direction of a student, then the aup doesn't apply.
19:59:29 murcha -> - Can any permission forms keep up with technology developments
19:59:34 mrsdurff -> - at our school EVERYONE signs an AUP
19:59:39 JohnS -> - But if a teacher tells them to do it, that's a hard case to make.
19:59:40 tansmom -> - mine too,
19:59:52 mrsdurff -> - on wards of the state can't
19:59:58 montagne#2 -> - I used to only think we were responsible 8-3...but my thinking changed about 30 months ago...
20:00:01 JenW -> - if our AUP is 24/7 -- then tons of kids are breaking it -- at my school :)
20:00:06 mrsdurff -> - and their voices CAN
20:00:15 montagne#2 -> - don't get me wroing, I am a little nervous about some of the things I do
20:00:16 JenW -> - and our AUP is way too tight
20:00:32 tansmom -> - oh, ok, so if I just did voice- they asked questions..no video..that is ok durff?
20:00:37 JenW -> - Alice -- LOL -- ignore my text :) LOL
20:00:39 montagne#2 -> - but at the same time, we can't be afraid of every possible chance outcome
20:00:41 Nedra -> - If a student records an answer on Voicethread do I need a permission slip for that?
20:00:43 mrsdurff -> - at our school if you don't like the AUP you attend another school
20:00:50 JenW -> - you don't have an AUP to say my name :)
20:00:52 JohnS -> - It can't be. The school can't govern what kids do at home.
20:00:53 montagne#2 -> - @Nedra...agreed
20:01:02 tansmom -> - LOL @JW
20:01:08 dianerchen -> Room 4: http://regioniv.wikispaces.com/
20:01:23 mrsdurff -> - @Nedra depends
20:01:24 murcha -> - sorry bell has gone, I have to go Thanks for having me
20:01:26 chellouise -> - I really think we are too paranoid
20:01:33 JenW -> - I have no trouble with kids online -- but I don't want ETT to go down because a parent sues
20:01:43 montagne#2 -> - Also, the students who I ask to webcast do so under a totally volunteer basis...
20:01:54 mrsdurff -> - if it is my kid - they crawl away scared
20:02:09 montagne#2 -> - I don't think anyone is going to sue ETT
20:02:13 mrsdurff -> - what is the point?
20:02:14 montagne#2 -> - sorry, but I don't
20:02:20 montagne#2 -> - they could sue me...
20:02:26 mrsdurff -> - i agree with matt
20:02:36 montagne#2 -> - I'm not worth much!!:)
20:02:39 JenW -> - :)
20:02:42 JenW -> - neither am I
20:02:42 montagne#2 -> - :)
20:03:15 JenW -> - question though -- if it is password protected -- which you said -- but then you said you could open it later -- what would have changed??
20:03:40 mrsdurff -> - let's do the walled garden and then podcast
20:03:42 JenW -> - if Lisa does it -- everyone will want to do it
20:03:48 tansmom -> - scary to be on the bleeding edge sometimes lol
20:03:54 mrsdurff -> - no he won't
20:04:00 alicemercer -> - I've had my say
20:04:01 montagne#2 -> - My next interncast is the week of May 12th...it will be with students again
20:04:08 JohnS -> - JenW -- avoid accidental release of personally identifyable or inappropriate information.
20:04:09 mrsdurff -> - he wants me to webcast
20:04:11 montagne#2 -> - join in...the kids have been a blast!!
20:04:14 mrsdurff -> - with kids
20:04:28 alicemercer -> - NIGHT all
20:04:30 mrsdurff -> - parents want it
20:04:34 JenW -> - at JohnS -- with my school right now -- NOTHING is available
20:04:38 chellouise -> - g'night alice!
20:04:39 JenW -> - so I don't have to worry
20:04:49 JenW -> - thanks for a good show
20:04:50 mrsdurff -> - i just need a download or two at school
20:04:50 dianerchen -> Room 4: http://regioniv.wikispaces.com/
20:04:50 montagne#2 -> - chow y'all
20:05:04 tansmom -> - thanks:)
20:05:12 jamie -> - thanks everyone!
20:05:12 tansmom -> - good convo
20:05:23 mrsdurff -> - so it is like a Skype call if within a walled garden
20:05:24 tansmom -> - glad to be out of the penalty box
20:05:27 chellouise -> - really good conversation, thanks!
20:05:27 tansmom -> - lol
20:05:28 Nedra -> - Thanks, good show\
20:05:30 JenW -> - me too tans
20:05:35 mrsdurff -> - 8th graders have webcasted
20:05:35 JenW -> - you stayed there MUCH too long
20:05:43 tansmom -> - have to get on the treadmill
20:05:44 tansmom -> - lol
20:05:47 mrsdurff -> - no problem with parents
20:05:48 tansmom -> - bye all
20:05:51 dianerchen -> Room 4: http://regioniv.wikispaces.com/
20:05:54 JenW -> - it is based on age -- so it should have been 1 minute per year
20:05:57 JenW -> - :)
20:05:57 mrsdurff -> - now i have two more kids
20:06:15 JenW -> - night Durff
20:06:17 mrsdurff -> - okay it is coffee and dessert time
20:06:18 JenW -> - and everyone else
20:06:21 mrsdurff -> - night dear
20:06:35 chellouise -> - @mrsdurff Is chocolate included?
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