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February 8, 2012

(14:17:40) fbartels (guest-2298): Hi folks
(14:18:01) Bill Stites (guest-2264): Howdy(14:19:04) fbartels (guest-2298): Hey Bill. Good to see you, if briefly, at Educon.
(14:19:48) Bill Stites (guest-2264): Always good to get together... I think it's why I like conferences as it gives me the chance to see those that I communicate with virtually at least once in a while
(14:21:43) arvind (guest-0): hi folks!
(14:21:55) fbartels (guest-2298): Hey Arvind
(14:22:01) arvind (guest-0): why am I guest-0? I thought I'm logged in. Argh.
(14:22:02) arvind (guest-0): Hey Fred
(14:22:07) arvind (guest-0): nice to "see" you
(14:22:17) alex.ragone: WooHoo. Hello Chat!
(14:22:43) fbartels (guest-2298): Hey Alex
(14:27:52) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): Hey all...
(14:28:54) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): Are you all having audio problems?
(14:29:02) Bill Stites (guest-2264): Hey Jason...
(14:29:07) Bill Stites (guest-2264): Curt is
(14:29:13) Bill Stites (guest-2264): we are about to get on and going
(14:29:28) fbartels (guest-2298): Hey Jason
(14:31:32) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): Hi Fred
(14:31:55) alex.ragone: Bill's COPPA Posts: http://www.williamstites.net/tag/coppa/
(14:33:29) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): Hey guys... not getting any audio from anyone. Is it me or the setup?
(14:34:11) alex.ragone: Jason -- Hmmm. my monitors are all showing they are working. Anyone else having audio issues?
(14:36:01) Bill Stites (guest-2264): Fred... can you hear everything OK?
(14:36:17) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): Never mind... I did not have the new link
(14:36:28) Bill Stites (guest-2264): Gotcha...
(14:36:31) Bill Stites (guest-2264): good to have you
(14:38:37) alex.ragone: http://www.mka.org/page.cfm?p=810
(14:39:03) alex.ragone: Bill's EdSocialMedia post: http://www.edsocialmedia.com/2011/12/coppa-challenges-lies-and-the-future/
(14:40:11) arvind (guest-0): The FTC has a small section addressing schools being agents for parents in meeting COPPA standards: http://www.ftc.gov/privacy/coppafaqs.shtm#schools
(14:43:27) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): Bill - Do you have any forms that parents/students fill out or are you just incorporating into your AUP?
(14:43:58) Bill Stites (guest-2264): Jason - We have seperate document that they will sign
(14:44:15) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): Do you have a link to that separate form you can shrae?
(14:45:51) fbartels (guest-2298): Curious about item 55 here? http://www.ftc.gov/privacy/coppafaqs.shtm
(14:47:21) Bill Stites (guest-2264): I will post it at soon...
(14:48:37) arvind (guest-0): Fred, what are you curious about?
(14:49:35) fbartels (guest-2298): It says COPPA does not apply to web services that have contracts with schools.
(14:49:54) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): So how does it work for students under 13? If the TOS is 13+ even with parent consent for the school to disclose information it's still a violation, correct?
(14:50:26) fbartels (guest-2298): Item 54 says a school's AUP can't be used to inform what online services are provided to students...
(14:50:48) fbartels (guest-2298): Oops. It says AUP CAN be used...
(14:50:51) Bill Stites (guest-2264): Fred... it's one of the reasons we have a different form
(14:52:23) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): Or is it strictly for sites that are free? If we pay for a contracted service COPPA does not apply...is that correct?
(14:53:13) Bill Stites (guest-2264): I don't think so Jason, which is why I was working with Evernote.
(14:54:39) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): Google Apps for Ed does not have a TOS age requirement. Put you have to be careful with any marketplace.
(14:55:10) fbartels (guest-2298): CAN
(14:55:23) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): No, it says it CAN be used.
(14:55:34) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): "Many schools have implemented Acceptable Use Policies (AUPs) or other measures to educate parents and students about in-school Internet use. For example, a school may use the AUP to inform parents of what online services are provided to students, and the school’s policies regarding students’ use of the Internet."
(14:55:48) Bill Stites (guest-2264): Thanks
(14:55:56) arvind (guest-0): The State of Oregon has a Google Form to collect digital permission from parents to allow their students to use Google Apps. Example here: https://sites.google.com/a/oregonk-12.net/googleapps/policy-faq
(14:57:45) fbartels (guest-2298): I'm so glad I'm not an IT director anymore :-)
(14:58:07) alex.ragone: We miss you, Fred.
(14:59:05) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): Send it over to Debra Wilson at NAIS, she's legal counsel for them.
(14:59:48) alex.ragone: Thanks, Jason. Do you have an email?
(14:59:57) fbartels (guest-2298): Thanks guys!
(15:00:21) alex.ragone: Thank you, Fred.
(15:01:20) Jason Ramsden (guest-2301): Alex - here it is: wilson@nais.org
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