Women of Web 2.0 April 8, 2008 Show 70

Women of Web 2.0, Show 70, welcomes you to the gaming show. Join us as Sharon, Vicki and Cheryl interview Karl Kapp, Karl M. Kapp, Ed.D., CFPIM, CIRM / Assistant Director, Institute for Interactive Technologies / Professor of Instructional Technology / Bloomsburg University. The chat has many great gaming links and developments as the show proceeds.

The delicious links: http://del.icio.us/Wow2.0#2008-04-08

The CHAT!!!!

20:34:07 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: spending time getting ready, off to get my ethernet cords

20:37:45 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Is alice done?

20:53:12 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Is there a show tonight?

21:00:47 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Hi sendkathy

21:02:00 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello, just getting out of the weeds.

21:02:26 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Hello

21:03:01 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi all

21:03:29 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Everyone!

21:03:36 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: www.pewresearch.org/interactive

21:04:19 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Jen did a great job of keeping us up to date from her conference via Twitter :-)

21:04:33 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: my wow of the week, www.pewresearch.org/interactive,, take the internet typology survey

21:04:44 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: hi everyone

21:05:11 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded%20/h1wOy11UM4MTlxNuBB5gBk0MZvteE4%20Pm

21:05:13 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello to all out in the chat room, welcome and thanks for hanging in while I found my internet, lost firefox and whew!

21:05:16 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Brrrr--80 degrees here in Phoenix :-)

21:05:33 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: oh thanks peggyg, brr

21:05:35 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2215188/Youth-With-Video-Proposal

21:05:41 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Snow melting in Maine YAY!

21:05:58 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hey wicked, is this Jeff alias

21:06:07 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That link gave an error-can you try again? or is it just me?

21:06:28 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://ndisafunda.blogspot.com/

21:06:29 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think I have the link some where

21:06:35 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hang in peggy,

21:06:36 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Good Evening All

21:06:37 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Yeah, this is Jeff

21:06:42 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://angela-in-africa.blogspot.com/

21:06:47 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: great handle, Jeff.

21:06:50 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Jeff - WDL

21:06:54 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hi tkidd132!

21:06:57 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: It's my podcast name.

21:07:00 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Kern

21:07:01 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Kern

21:07:10 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl

21:07:31 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Vicki - http://draft.blogger.com -- 2 Diigo Groups - http://groups.diigo.com/groups/educators and http://groups.diigo.com/groups/twitter-freaks - point out the tag dictionary feature. Really cool -- when you send it to the group.

21:07:48 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: http://wickeddecentlearning.blogspot.com if people want to check it out

21:08:08 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Jeff, anyone else have a blog to share? please post your address.

21:08:27 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: I capture the chat and post it by Thur. along with the podcast.

21:08:43 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello There Cheryl

21:08:43 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Is this just starting ?

21:09:23 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Another group I really like on Diigo is EduStreams-posting video streams that have been archived. I added the Cool Tool Duel to the links there.

21:09:31 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello alice, cheriT, colettec, colleenK , durff, peggy, send kathy!, shaun, sue roseman, wicked, thanks for being here

21:09:31 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: @tkidd Are you from Geeked?

21:09:47 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: HI folks, nice to see you here tonight....

21:10:18 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hey dbraagg, james.sigler, Rob!

21:10:27 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everyone! Feel like I've been off the grid for awhile!

21:10:30 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everybody

21:10:41 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Alice!

21:10:45 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Alice congrats for the mention with Wes' blog.

21:10:49 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Alice

21:10:50 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: ok cheryl I took the survey at pew and my type is male, young and ethnically civerse median age is 28- where does that leave me.. lol

21:10:55 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Alice. The NE meetup is finally here.

21:11:04 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: And you Cheryl

21:11:08 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Jeff B

21:11:15 DBragg -> -EdTechTalk: hi cheryl

21:11:16 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: @alice was that you ustreaming eariler?

21:11:19 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Colleen Looking forward to seeing you this weekend!

21:11:23 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Me too Susan, omnivore, right?

21:11:26 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi jim!

21:11:30 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: yes

21:11:36 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Lesley,

21:11:38 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: I love middle school

21:11:47 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Lisa :-)

21:11:53 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: cheryl are we really 28 yr old males deep inside?

21:11:57 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: If you want to send links to the horizon project - http://groups.diigo.com/groups/horizon-project-2008

21:12:08 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @Jmes.Sigler No it was AliceMercer

21:12:10 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: At heart I think!

21:12:11 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: @Susan - lol -- nothing male about me!

21:12:20 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: @kern -- Hey!

21:12:24 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: lol vicki

21:12:35 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff -- Going well on my book -- I want to chat offline w/ you later.

21:12:38 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: grading while listening

21:12:41 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Hey there Vicki!

21:12:45 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Oh, I was sorry I lost the stream

21:12:49 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: ok vicki

21:13:15 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: ok who's typing?

21:13:16 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hi jgates513, maureen,

21:13:23 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: we just muted

21:13:29 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: ;)

21:13:35 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Link for Karl's book?

21:13:38 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: What a great way to add rocket fuel to learning

21:13:39 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: that was supposed to be a wink

21:13:45 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: just a sec

21:13:48 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: i like the wink

21:13:53 Maureen/bcdtech -> -EdTechTalk: Hi all

21:13:59 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.gadgetsgamesandgizmos.com/

21:14:03 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: ;)

21:14:10 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: turning a toy into a tool by adding an objective :)

21:14:14 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Vicki!

21:14:29 kkapp -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.dimdim.com/ (web-based open source service where you can share your desktop, show slides, collaborate, chat, talk and broadcast via webcam with absolutely no download required for attendees.)

21:14:45 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: I love a guest who puts his own wow links in

21:15:05 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: *i'm a Bloomsburg master's grad* - ih Dr Kapp

21:15:13 kkapp -> -EdTechTalk: cool!

21:15:28 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome jgates513,

21:15:51 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: fun tech toys <--- a great reason why i teach technology

21:16:12 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for DimDim-just signed up for Beta invitation :-)

21:16:26 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: I just signed up for dim dim too!

21:16:32 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: peggyg, how many can you invite?

21:16:37 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Need to change my color :-)

21:16:57 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: It just gave me a message that they would be in touch with me via email

21:17:01 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for reminding me Peggy

21:17:19 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: [b]i claim purple

21:17:25 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: vicki - I used to play the Hobbit text adventure on the Commodore 64. I loved IT, too!

21:17:32 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Zork!!

21:17:41 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: and Pacman :-)

21:17:47 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: tetris

21:18:08 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Donkey kong on Atari

21:18:15 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I wasn't good at the OLD games and I'm not good at the new games either :-(

21:18:18 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: tetris addict

21:18:19 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: the Myst games are my current favorites

21:18:30 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Karl's site with games and gadgets http://karlkapp.com/game%20products.html

21:18:37 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i had 4th graders go to a game today and refused to tell them the rules

21:18:39 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Kangaroo from Atari was Great!

21:18:41 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: Myst was too hard - i had to cheat

21:18:49 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: it took them 3 seconds

21:18:51 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Embarrassed about how many of those games and gadgets we own in our household!

21:19:04 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: in the attic?

21:19:10 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: What do "cheat codes" tell us about learning and games?

21:19:19 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: durff, did they engage once you didn't tell them?

21:19:24 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: collaboration works

21:19:33 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I tried MMORPGs like World of Warcraft

21:19:37 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Myst one of the games I likes. Matybe it's why I like SL

21:19:38 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: my son makes an art of finding the cheats

21:19:40 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yup cheryl

21:19:41 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: It is way addictive

21:19:46 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Jeff, WDL, that kids will read when there is purpose!! :-)

21:19:50 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: they didn't even blink

21:19:50 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: lisa, have you seen the web games that are like that? they don't tell you the rules nor the object. Great fun

21:19:53 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Club Penguin

21:20:06 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: exactly

21:20:09 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: I'm playing travian right now. Great learning game www.travian.com

21:20:16 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: I bet Durff, just jumped in.

21:20:19 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: 6th grade does Club pengui9n

21:20:22 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Lol Cheryl!

21:20:25 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: did anyone play loderunner - first game i loved where you built your own levels

21:20:32 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Dungeon game - I playd as a kid- http://thcnet.net/zork

21:20:36 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello hshawjr, srenatee, hello

21:20:38 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I was amazed at how my 6 year old grandson navigated successfully on Runescape--but he couldn't teach me how. :-)

21:20:43 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Lorna, just saw you

21:20:51 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Hey hshawjr!

21:20:55 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: AD&D great game

21:20:59 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: I was semi-addicted to Age of Mythology..... loved it.... but had to put aside when it came time to focus and finish my course work and finish writing the thesis

21:21:05 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: into Portal now

21:21:09 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Should we use games that include fighting and shooting things?

21:21:19 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: WDL hows it going?

21:21:37 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: hshawjr Good here you?

21:21:44 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: shooter games are not what adults think they are

21:22:00 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: Now that day @ school is over, tought day

21:22:06 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: @hshawjr I played AD&D the analog version

21:22:10 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Students at our school are in the process of publishing a list of which games are OK to use during break and study hall. Teachers scared!

21:22:11 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: will educators pay for good games for the classropopm? we're a tight bunch, y know

21:22:14 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That's an interesting point about the game elements repeating over and over

21:22:42 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome mjsk, allears

21:22:42 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: @AliceBarr, Us too. freerice.com made our "accepted" list

21:22:44 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: @James.Sigler - Play PNP and now play NWN2

21:22:46 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: alice will that list be on the web?

21:22:53 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Does Karl's book address how to create these games?

21:23:11 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: gamemaker

21:23:16 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @wicked Yes that one is on our list. It's so interesting to see where this will go!

21:23:18 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: World math day - http://www.worldmathsday.com/

21:23:24 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: anyone remember the old Spellevator game for the Apple IIgs?

21:23:26 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: @peggy - he gives tons of examples

21:23:32 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Also freeflour.com

21:23:36 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: I wish every textbook company would buy.

21:23:43 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Share your best gaming sites.

21:23:48 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: OO don't know that one!

21:24:17 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: I don't know if it's charity based like free rice but it seems to be, more geography oreinted questions

21:24:31 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @Wicked Thanks. Sending it to team now

21:24:51 mjsk -> -EdTechTalk: do you really think most kids have friends all over the world? I would say less than 30%

21:25:01 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Some links to game sites that are cool - http://www.diigo.com/user/coolcatteacher/games

21:25:09 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Alice, I'd love to see what's on your High School's list

21:25:29 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: if you want to see what kind of internet user you are, take the quiz at http://www.pewresearch.org/interactive

21:25:31 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Developing games http://www.seriousgamesresearch.com/

21:25:38 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: wicked, hang on let me see if I have it

21:25:53 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi kathy

21:25:57 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: hi

21:25:58 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: I love http://www.funbrain.com/ for elementary kids

21:26:02 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I'm on spring break

21:26:07 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.powerupthegame.org/home.html

21:26:25 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: lucky you send kathy, enjoy your break! miss you

21:26:27 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: bonus.com is like funbrain

21:26:35 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: http://schooltimegames.com is good for upper elem and middle school students

21:26:54 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: You can build your own games at http://www.classtools.net/

21:26:58 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: is funbrain free?

21:27:00 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: 6th grade liked that one Jim

21:27:20 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: I remember how many skills I learned from non-tech games as a child

21:27:25 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: thanks cheryl actually I just got back from visiting my parents in Savannah so, no I can organize my socks

21:27:29 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: cards, monopoly, etc...

21:27:31 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i have not seen that list colleen

21:27:41 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: here is a good game site http://www.arcademicskillbuilders.com

21:27:50 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.techlearning.com/showArticle.php?articleID=196604471 - interesting article about games in education

21:27:50 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello nedra

21:28:08 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Excessive video game playing numbs the brain according to MRIs

21:28:27 Nedra -> -EdTechTalk: hi cheryl

21:28:28 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: We used to play heroic fantasy - using paper n pencil and our imagination

21:28:56 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: http://hotpot.uvic.ca/

21:29:04 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @WickedDL Look at your private message I put them there

21:29:05 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: www.alice.org

21:29:26 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @Vicki- what a great idea!

21:29:33 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Great idea to have students create academic review games

21:29:38 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.twilightsoftware.com/

21:30:01 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.realmcrafter.com/catalog/information.php?info_id=6

21:30:19 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Alice, I didn't seem to get it, can you send it again?

21:30:34 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.clickteam.info/

21:30:36 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: http://playkidsgames.com/

21:31:12 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: The skills of creating a game - lots of higher order thinking skills

21:32:03 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: but sharon - higher order when the kids do it

21:32:03 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Jeapordy PPT templates available online

21:32:14 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: I like the idea of kids creating literary worlds using the realmcrafter

21:32:14 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.dimenxian.com - cool math video game

21:32:27 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Gamemaker

21:33:08 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: @Kern Have you played Dimenxian to the end?

21:33:10 cfoote -> -EdTechTalk: phew, took me awhile to get in here.

21:33:13 cfoote -> -EdTechTalk: not working on IE

21:33:24 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: I think I am going to have the Student Tech team listen to this and decide what games they want to add...

21:33:26 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: FF?

21:33:37 cfoote -> -EdTechTalk: @durff yep, using ff now

21:33:40 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: So many great links! Thanks

21:33:42 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: Played "Life" with student today

21:33:44 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Here's a link to several PowerPoint game templates

21:33:46 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.murray.k12.ga.us/teacher/kara%20leonard/Mini%20T%27s/March%20... great site for game templates

21:34:02 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: I've played it for a while - never finished it :(

21:34:25 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: Wicked could you put that link out again?

21:34:43 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: It's the one Cheryl put up

21:34:50 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: @Kern I can't get through it but I'm video game challenged, I think.

21:34:51 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: okay

21:34:58 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Jeff, you and I are on the same wave length!

21:34:59 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: game development software - costs $ - http://www.immersiveeducation.com

21:35:06 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: I know... wierd

21:35:07 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: :D

21:35:30 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: http://msit.bloomu.edu/hmgee/GamerRater/GamerRater.html

21:35:48 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: I was trying to get a tinyurl up for it but I didn't get to it fast enough

21:35:53 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Carolyn, did n't see you pop in.

21:36:05 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Gazillionaire is a great trading game - http://www.lavamind.com/gaz.html

21:36:32 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: How about Second Life?

21:36:40 cfoote -> -EdTechTalk: What is the book that he is discussing? i was late

21:36:59 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: Been wanting to try, but no time to learn and kind of intimidated

21:37:03 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: It is Karl's book that he wrote.

21:37:20 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.gadgetsgamesandgizmos.com/

21:37:23 cfoote -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Vicki.

21:37:23 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Karl Kapp

21:37:25 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: isn't it something how much time and energy and money is spent filtering out games - because the teachers get tired of chasing kids off the game sites? so, the category is blocked - also blocking the good games

21:37:51 cfoote -> -EdTechTalk: there's some good posts on that topic Vicki on the Education Business Blog by Lee Wilson

21:37:56 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://karlkapp.com/index.htm

21:38:01 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I think he is so right, when games become component-based that can easily be manipulated by average users then they will become better teaching tools

21:38:03 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: @hshawjr SL not appropriate to use with student - TeenSL is only for teens

21:38:20 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: will you be posting all of these links from the chat on the delicious bookmarks for today? For some reason my browser stopped linking from chat window

21:38:36 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: yes, Peggy - will work on that

21:38:42 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: MMORPG on Google Earth http://www.gearthhacks.com/gemmo/

21:38:45 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: @ColetteC - thanks still learning what is :D

21:38:55 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: we were just saying tonight.... time to move to diigo?

21:39:08 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy, not just you, but I can't link in chat room. We will try and collect all these. But the chat and podcast will be published by Thurs.

21:39:29 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: @hshawjr I don't think of Second Life as a game - more like a 3D environment to explore and meet others.

21:39:31 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: You can still stay on delicious and go to Diigo--save bookmarks in both places with one click

21:39:37 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp you can post to diigo and it will also post on delicious if you set it up

21:39:39 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Instead of SL for students I'm pulling for http://edugrids.org

21:39:59 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: @colleenK - only been there once and really didn't know what was going on;.

21:40:22 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That is so sad about the wasted money on textbooks!

21:40:31 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: our state is talking about requiring textbook companies to have an electronic format.

21:40:34 kkapp -> -EdTechTalk: yes it is sad

21:40:40 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: @Kern I'm watching that one, too.

21:40:47 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: How do educators get on the Teen Grid in SL?

21:40:54 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: text books are REALLY expensive

21:41:09 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyg you have to apply

21:41:14 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyg you are stuck on an island

21:41:20 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG It's a process. Need to apply and get a background check.

21:41:20 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: maybe buy books by the chapters that you want

21:41:22 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Games here - http://nobelprize.org/

21:41:25 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: talking History co-teacher to use web vs buying new text

21:41:30 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: I want to be able to customize my own book.

21:41:32 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Textbook monopoly is political and $

21:41:34 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: middle school, nobel prize website, nobelprize.org understanding plastic, alloys

21:41:41 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Anyone heard of the "customizable" text book where the teacher picks the content from the list of options

21:41:48 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: times attack, elementary multiplication for kids

21:41:48 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: You should see the article I wrote for their newsletter today.

21:41:53 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: I'll share it soon.

21:41:57 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @ColleenK-thanks--I was wondering if there was a background check on the adults :-) That's reassuring.

21:41:59 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Kind of "buffet style" learning/teaching

21:42:06 kkapp -> -EdTechTalk: http://3dlanguage.net/cms/

21:42:13 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: @Wicked - No haven't heard that one, would like to know more

21:42:28 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: high school spanish gadgetsgamesandgizmos.com 3Dlanguage, speak spanish into the game and evaluates your conversation

21:42:42 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: My grandson loved TimezAttack to learn his multiplication facts.

21:42:56 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks peggy for the spelling

21:43:29 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: He never seemed to tire of it and kept playing over and over--much more than he would have with a worksheet :-)

21:44:19 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: Dimenxian

21:44:52 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: http://edugrids.org Kern Kelley mentioned this site.

21:45:18 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: SL not appropriate for under age 18

21:45:20 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: edugrids is run on opensim?

21:45:22 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: How do you balance the amount of time spent on games with everything else in the classroom?

21:45:26 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Anybody heard of ARGs? "Alternate Reality Games?"

21:45:41 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp yes, I'm hoping to use it for a history class next year

21:45:45 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp Yes about edugrids

21:46:16 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hi juwolf43, welcome

21:46:17 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: very cool, are you running opensim on your own server or do the edugrids people have a dedicated server?

21:46:56 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Games in education needs to be short enough to be used in a classroom and still extended later is desired

21:46:59 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp I believe it's still in development

21:47:13 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: @Wicked coming to you.

21:47:50 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @mrmoses - Welcome Glen!

21:48:01 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Are Alternate Reality Games designed for schools?

21:48:42 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: I don't think there are many ARGs designed for schools but I know of one

21:48:45 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I've never heard of ARG

21:48:46 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: the hardest thing is to teach the adults to stop banning the technology

21:48:49 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: I bought a gps unit just to get into geocaching

21:49:08 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: as soon as it is banned it becomes a problem

21:49:11 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: there are geocaches everywhere

21:49:14 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: geocaching is so fun!

21:49:20 mrmosesdotorg -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp - hi :) happpy to be here

21:49:26 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: when it is not an issue it is not a problem

21:49:34 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: if you don't understand it, scared by it avoid it as my 65+ fathers says

21:49:42 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i don't get it

21:49:44 mrmosesdotorg -> -EdTechTalk: I just went to as session on ARGs

21:49:44 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp how do you use a gps with geocaches? Have you blogged about it?

21:49:56 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: durff, our filters at school work really well with proxies that the kids find:-)

21:50:01 sheila -> -EdTechTalk: my parents geocache at 82 and 72!

21:50:02 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.geocaching.com/

21:50:11 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: sweet, sheila

21:50:18 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: ther is quite a geocaching community

21:50:19 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hi congerjan, hello

21:50:21 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: or the kids set up proxies

21:50:28 mrmosesdotorg -> -EdTechTalk: it was as simple as making certian letters on a webpage students went to bold and leading students that see the clues somewhere

21:50:33 mrmosesdotorg -> -EdTechTalk: it was pretty cool

21:50:37 hshawjr -> -EdTechTalk: @sheila - cool my father puts his finger up to the wind and say go this way ;)

21:50:51 sheila -> -EdTechTalk: geocachers- have you used travel bugs in the classroom? It's great!

21:50:59 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: Here's a simple ARG designed by a teacher for his students http://www2.svsd.net/~lions/hexagon/

21:51:08 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @ColetteC Thanks-I need to learn about that. Just got a new GPS and had no idea you could use it with online projects

21:51:25 sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Geocaching and google earth!

21:51:26 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for t hese great links, Jeff.

21:51:30 sheila -> -EdTechTalk: I use it

21:51:44 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Shelia, what age group!

21:51:50 sheila -> -EdTechTalk: middle school

21:51:58 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: that is because there is no separation btwn online and offline

21:52:01 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: I haven't used travel bugs yet - but will start soon

21:52:07 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: I have a teacher starting with her middle schoolers.

21:52:09 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: only with adults

21:52:17 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: I think there is a lot of potential there for geocaching in education

21:52:57 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Yes!

21:52:59 sheila -> -EdTechTalk: We have a travel bug that started in Antarctica and is now in the UK. People have been good about sending photos and descriptions of the areas.

21:53:12 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That would be a fascinating show-who would you invite as your guest? geocaching

21:53:23 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: that sounds like fun. Shelia, do you have a webpage?

21:53:28 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I haven't really seen the educational potential of geocaching

21:53:30 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: I don't know @PeggyG -- lets find some teachers who are geocaching and bring them on.

21:53:36 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Anyone here geocaching?

21:53:50 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: and want to be on a show?

21:53:51 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes, teachers would be the best!

21:53:57 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: no - have a how to on it?

21:54:04 sheila -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryloakes - just minimal; but have some for teacher workshops.

21:54:20 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: I taught a student w/ Asburgers

21:54:28 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: I think I mispelled it.

21:54:32 sheila -> -EdTechTalk: I'd be happy to share what I do.

21:54:41 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: am related to some young people with Aspergers

21:54:41 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Aspergers

21:54:44 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: aspergers

21:54:59 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: geocaching must be one of those things you have to expereince

21:55:48 kkapp -> -EdTechTalk: Asperger's syndrome

21:56:00 congerjan -> -EdTechTalk: I was an aide to a student with Aspergers... was a computer whiz...

21:56:02 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: w/ Aspergers...what a great idea!

21:56:08 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: try and convince parents of that

21:56:31 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: wow

21:56:42 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: @vicki I have a name for you for geocaching:

21:56:42 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: morning meeting was controversial when i did it

21:56:43 kkapp -> -EdTechTalk: true, parents can be an obstacle

21:56:48 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Just saw a feature story on a young woman with autism who told how she was able to function on Second Life--it was amazing!

21:56:48 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: Eva LaMar

21:56:53 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I have a friend whose son has Aspergers

21:57:11 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy, that is a great story.

21:57:16 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think I saw the show on 60 minutes--not sure

21:57:33 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: neat

21:57:34 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: Geocaching resources from Eva LaMar http://www.evalamar.com/GPS/index.htm

21:57:45 congerjan -> -EdTechTalk: Wow... Asperger parents may be more receptive than you think because they would be able to see te "practice" aspect... and it is safer to try it on Second Life

21:57:56 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: don't miss the chat and podcast on Thurs. at edtechtalk.com/womenofweb2

21:58:07 allears -> -EdTechTalk: Project Spectrum on Google talks about using sketch up with kids with autism

21:58:17 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: WE shared a LOT of links tonight - definitely worth revisiting

21:58:33 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: We need an educational SL - Education Life?

21:58:35 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Can't wait to share this with students Thanks all of you!

21:59:00 ffoxworth -> -EdTechTalk: I was a late arriver. Is there a way to save or collect the links?

21:59:01 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: What? a WOW2 chat on Thursday???

21:59:06 mrmosesdotorg -> -EdTechTalk: If I could ever get off of Beginner's Island I could check some of this stuff out.

21:59:12 kkapp -> -EdTechTalk: www.gadgetsgamesandgizmos.com

21:59:18 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: A virtual 3D textbook!

21:59:18 mrmosesdotorg -> -EdTechTalk: What does it say that I'm horrible at Second Life?

21:59:21 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hi, I post the chat and podcast on Thursday at edtechtalk.com

21:59:51 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @mrmoses Takes time to learn SL

21:59:57 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Oh--thought it was a bonus show--I'll definitely be looking for the podcast and chat for tonight's show on Thursday :-)

22:00:01 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: SL is my summer vacation!

22:00:31 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hi jasonr, almost done.

22:00:39 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Karl is an amazing expert on educational games--I have a lot to learn and will definitely buy his book!

22:00:41 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Wish our schools recognized the skills students are gaining from gaming more than what they do

22:00:42 mrmosesdotorg -> -EdTechTalk: I'd love to, but can't get the volcano part on the Island to play nice . Really, I've tried. A lot.

22:00:45 JasonR -> -EdTechTalk: no worries

22:00:49 JasonR -> -EdTechTalk: sorry i missed most

22:01:30 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Cheryl rocks - she has been getting that podcast up on the site in record times recently!

22:01:33 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm so glad Karl decided to write a book about this!

22:01:42 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: @mrmoses check out SLED - SL educators website

22:01:46 kkapp -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks and thank you to everyone

22:01:49 kkapp -> -EdTechTalk: you've been great

22:02:00 mrmosesdotorg -> -EdTechTalk: this has been great. Sorry I got in late.

22:02:05 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Lucy Gray is our guest next week

22:02:09 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: so excited !

22:02:09 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Karl is doing GREAT work!

22:02:13 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Great show

22:02:14 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Awesome show!!! Thank you all!

22:02:17 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: This was a great show! Thank you.

22:02:25 jgates513 -> -EdTechTalk: great show!

22:02:26 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: getting late and falling asleep....

22:02:33 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: nite

22:02:34 Nedra -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks everyone great job!

22:02:36 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you so much!

22:02:39 sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks so much!

22:02:53 mrmosesdotorg -> -EdTechTalk: 'nite everybody

22:03:06 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: good night!! thanks so much for getting here.

22:03:15 Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: http://horizonproject2008.wikispaces.com

22:03:18 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Lucy Gray is on her way next week.

22:03:26 Kern -> -EdTechTalk: nite alllll

22:03:29 congerjan -> -EdTechTalk: night all... so glad I was finally able to get in...

22:03:31 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Good night all!

22:03:35 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for stopping by.

22:03:39 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: over and out!

22:03:40 WickedDecentLearning -> -EdTechTalk: great show

22:04:47 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks all great discussion

22:04:52 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Glad I stopped by

22:05:03 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: goodnight all