Wow 2. Show 67 The Maine Connection! with some fantastic Maine students!!

Join Jen, Cheryl, Vicki while we interview the Maine Connection. The Maine Connection, thanks to Doran, Grizz, Jake, Carly and Sam , the students and of course thanks to Kern Kelley , from the Nokomis School District and Alice Barr, from Yarmouth High School,  for inviting their students to the show to talk about the Maine Connection to the 21st Century. What a fantastic show. We tested the SKYPE limits with 9 folks on. The students who joined us made the show.

The chat is below, check it for great links.

 20:44:35  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: getting ready

 20:44:45  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: yes!

 20:45:09  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Kids are in chat room too... Griz, Jakelib, and Cwest

 20:47:47  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Griz, jakelib, cwest

 20:48:59  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: YHS Kids Check you Skype chat

 20:49:33  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hedllo ROOM!!!!

 20:49:49  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: hello

 20:49:54  Carly -> -EdTechTalk: hi

 20:50:03  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: Hello YHS kids

 20:50:11  jakelib -> -EdTechTalk: hey

 20:50:35  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Sing online Jen

 20:50:43  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I would love to hear your voice!

 20:51:23  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey y'all

 20:51:34  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Can you put the names of the guests in the chat please

 20:51:49  jakelib -> -EdTechTalk: hi im jake

 20:52:04  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Alice Barr; YArmouth Maine

 20:52:09  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Hi im jake

 20:52:16  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: cheryloakes maine

 20:52:16  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Kern Kelly Alos Maine

 20:52:18  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I'm kathy from ATL

 20:52:24  Carly -> -EdTechTalk: My name is Carly

 20:52:27  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: how do we listen to what everyone is saying

 20:52:33  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: Im Sam from maine

 20:52:36  jakelib -> -EdTechTalk: yah

 20:52:38  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Hey carly!

 20:52:43  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Hang on Griz I am giving you directions in Skype

 20:52:49  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: ok thank you

 20:52:53  Carly -> -EdTechTalk: hello

 20:52:56  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Sam from maine, do your friends call you grizzly?

 20:53:01  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: this is the boring part of the show. sorry

 20:53:08  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: sometimes but mostly grizzy

 20:53:19  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Speak for yourself Cheryl! :)

 20:53:21  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: its a odd nickname

 20:53:51  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: sorry Kathysend

 20:53:53  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: So lets get some font color in this chat

 20:53:59  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: see the little palette?

 20:54:17  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: LOL Cheryl!

 20:54:37  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Good for you Kathy -- I was neglecting my duties  :)

 20:54:50  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I choose TEAL

 20:54:52  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: so where is your color Jen

 20:55:04  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Ahhh Teal, like it!

 20:55:33  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: So what ages are these fabulous students

 20:55:47  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: I am purple

 20:55:55  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: lovely Alice

 20:56:14  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: So about the guests...

 20:56:19  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: names please,

 20:56:27  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: websites so we can check them out

 20:56:28  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: Sam

 20:56:33  jakelib -> -EdTechTalk: jake

 20:56:38  Carly -> -EdTechTalk: Carly

 20:56:47  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I mean on the chat!

 20:56:51  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk:  Do you know?

 20:56:59  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: yes sorry

 20:57:01  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Or are you going to join the chat too?

 20:57:01  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: grizzy93

 20:57:09  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Or are you already on the chat?

 20:57:23  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: no i dont think so

 20:57:28  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I mean the skype!

 20:57:31  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: yes

 20:57:32  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I am sooo confused

 20:57:36  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: my name is grizzy93 on skype

 20:57:41  jakelib -> -EdTechTalk: soo r we

 20:57:43  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi all!

 20:57:48  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hey PeggyG!!!!

 20:57:48  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: will we be hearing your voice?

 20:57:52  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: yes

 20:58:03  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: OK thx

 20:58:05  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: but we are not hooked up yet!

 20:58:10  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Jake, Carly and Griz can you hear ?

 20:58:10  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: i c

 20:58:17  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: what will you be talking about

 20:58:17  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: hey y'all!

 20:58:22  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: HI!

 20:58:26  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: i can but how can we talk?

 20:58:27  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm hearing the talk on iTunes :-)

 20:58:40  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: me too

 20:58:44  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Yeah, me too

 20:58:47  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: how are we suppose to talk?

 20:58:54  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: just wanted y'all to know i'm catching up on older wow podcasts and enjoying them all

 20:59:01  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: when Cheryl calls you in skype, you answer

 20:59:18  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @looneyhiker, do you hike and listen?

 20:59:46  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Gonna try orange tonight :-) Happy mood!!

 20:59:49  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: we have been going for 4 mile exercise walks and they keep my mind off of feeling miserable!

 20:59:51  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Nice

 21:00:04  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: good for you loonhiker

 21:00:10  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: perfect, I think podcasts and excersize go hand in hand

 21:00:14  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: now i look forward to walking!

 21:00:33  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Doran

 21:00:34  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I had to buy a bigger iPod to store all of the podcasts--80gb now :-)

 21:00:38  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: Hello

 21:00:39  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: ooo cool

 21:00:49  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Actually podcasts are also great on long car rides

 21:01:08  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: I agree

 21:01:20  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Then you may need to buy a bigger computer to keep up with your ipod!

 21:01:40  Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk:

 21:01:50  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Cheryl, just invite me and I'll drive up! 

 21:02:04  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: love to sendkathy!

 21:02:11  Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk:

 21:02:13  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:

 21:02:38  michellerussell -> -EdTechTalk: I LOVE CYBERSMART!!!

 21:02:46  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Just love getting these links

 21:03:17  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: hi liz, peggy, loony, jake, grizzy, Doran. Diane H, Carly,matt, michellerussell, mkm420send kathy, ,Pam, vicki

 21:03:27  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: thanks michellerussell

 21:03:28  Diane H -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl!

 21:03:37  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey cheryl

 21:03:53  shoemap -> -EdTechTalk: I just read all the comments on Al's blog. Wow

 21:04:00  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: Hello

 21:04:15  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everyone - no rehearsal tonight. Yay! Nice to be back. So excited to hear from Alice.

 21:04:23  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome back Jen!

 21:04:25  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: yeah, lizb

 21:04:37  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: very intresting links

 21:04:43  Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Al Upton's links

 21:04:47  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: Sharon, we are thinking of you! Glad to have Jen back in real time. Right Kathy

 21:04:51  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @lizbdavis How is the play going?

 21:04:56  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm excited about the "Maine Connection" tonight :-)

 21:05:06  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: thanks peggyg, me too

 21:05:24  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: looking forward to all four of your back together again - it's been too long!

 21:05:41  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:, sound good

 21:05:45  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: @alice It is going well. We close next weekend. It has been a lot fo fun. You are famous tonight :D

 21:05:51  michellerussell -> -EdTechTalk: sharon who

 21:05:54  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: :)

 21:06:15  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: Sharon Peters is out tonight.

 21:06:16  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: i know alice personally!:)

 21:06:26  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: or should i say mrs.barr

 21:06:29  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Everyone!!!

 21:07:07  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Choose a COLOR for the chat if you have not already -- FAR LEFT button -- looks like an art pallette (?)

 21:07:08  Diane H -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Jen!

 21:07:17  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Diane -- good to see you!!!

 21:07:25  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome to Kern, Alice, and Students!!!

 21:07:31  Diane H -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks - good to be here :-)

 21:07:37  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks

 21:07:42  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: i like changing colors

 21:07:43  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you

 21:07:56  michellerussell -> -EdTechTalk: Maine connection?

 21:08:15  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: They are ALL from MAINE  :)

 21:08:22  lorna -> -EdTechTalk: hi jeannine

 21:08:26  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:

 21:08:31  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome Linda and Jeannine!!!

 21:08:55  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Hi, Alice and Kern!

 21:09:00  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: You also can make your chat area larger by clicking on the 3rd ICON from the RIGHT

 21:09:04  Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Here is information on Mark Prenksy -- I don't know if anyone has updates -

 21:09:11  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Jen

 21:09:11  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: it looks like a double overlap sheet of paper

 21:09:17  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Vicki

 21:09:27  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: Everyone keeps choosing my color ;)

 21:09:46  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Can't get to come up :-(

 21:09:49  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: How about this color

 21:09:50  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: @lizdavis what's your color?

 21:09:52  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Liz -- didn't see you sneak in!!  :)

 21:10:00  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome Maureen!!!

 21:10:19  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:      sorry

 21:10:24  lorna -> -EdTechTalk: every time I come here I learn something new

 21:10:30  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Jen

 21:10:33  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: thanks lorna, me too

 21:10:47  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: I love my coffee mug!

 21:11:25  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey lorna

 21:11:31  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryloakes-thanks! that did it :-)

 21:12:03  lorna -> -EdTechTalk: basking in the sun Matt?

 21:12:22  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: :)  Smiles

 21:12:24  lorna -> -EdTechTalk: don't like my colour

 21:12:27  Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: Who has 1:1 at theri school -- I don't.

 21:12:36  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: lorna...the weather is great down nice to be in a warm climate!!

 21:12:41  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Lorna -- feel free to change to any color -- but LOL, check with Liz first  :)

 21:12:55  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That is so exciting to think that every HS student has a laptop!

 21:12:59  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Liz -- I got another mug today -- made me think of you!!!

 21:13:01  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: does any one have 1-1 eeePCs?

 21:13:01  lorna -> -EdTechTalk: I will be a rainbow

 21:13:11  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Can't stay too long wife wasn't too happy to see me on the laptop 2nite while on vacation :)

 21:13:11  Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: @KarenJan - I've heard that they are cool.

 21:13:21  Vicki Davis -> -EdTechTalk: @matt - I know the feeling.

 21:13:22  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Kathy Schrock recommends them

 21:13:25  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: LOL!

 21:13:25  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: We son't have 1:1, but nearby districts in Pittsfield and North Adams have them

 21:13:27  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome to KarenJan too -- you guys are sneaking in on me  :)

 21:13:27  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: oh Matt, tell her to join us.

 21:13:29  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: @matt r u in the doghouse?! :)

 21:13:33  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: what does 1-1 mean?

 21:13:35  shoemap -> -EdTechTalk: @matt keep wife happy

 21:13:39  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Hi, Jen - great to have you back again!

 21:13:39  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: One computer to One Student

 21:13:43  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: o ok

 21:13:46  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: my hubby is pouting in the other room too

 21:14:01  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks

 21:14:07  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: we need to start a support group for spouses...!!  :)

 21:14:08  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I am glad you asked grizzy93 -- sometimes we drop acronyms and think everyone understands  :)

 21:14:09  becksintex -> -EdTechTalk: my hubbie just hrumpfed

 21:14:09  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @loonyhiker - looking forward to meeting you at CEC next month

 21:14:11  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: loony, i had a webcast one time for left out family members, it was great

 21:14:24  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @shoemap...good advice...I'm going now...

 21:14:33  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: by everyone...

 21:14:35  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Hi, Durff!

 21:14:36  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome LISA!!   and STEVES!!

 21:14:43  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: @karenjan hope to see u too. r u going to the keynote?

 21:14:48  shoemap -> -EdTechTalk: nite matt

 21:14:55  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi jen - at a friend's home

 21:14:57  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: planning to

 21:15:03  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Hi, Deb!

 21:15:09  DebBarrows -> -EdTechTalk: Howdy!

 21:15:09  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: hello DEB!!! how good to see you

 21:15:13  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome Deb Barrows!!!  The only Deb I call by first and last name for some reason!!

 21:15:14  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: look for me then. i'm on the board of directors and will be right out front :(

 21:15:32  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi karen

 21:15:33  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: i hate being out front

 21:15:35  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: What and where is CEC??

 21:15:36  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: I forgot my computer at home on Monday - Had a presentation to do. Everything was Online - no problem. Thank g-d for

 21:15:43  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @loony, Ok, will i recognize you from your twitter picture?

 21:15:47  DebBarrows -> -EdTechTalk: CEC - Boston

 21:15:50  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: CEC=Council for Exceptional Children

 21:15:51  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: change in platforms-PC/Mac-can be so frustrating to some people--see it in workshops when they have to use computer platforms they aren't familiar with

 21:15:55  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: amen liz

 21:16:01  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Boston -- ahhhh someday I shall be there

 21:16:07  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: my hair is much longer but the face is the same lol

 21:16:08  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @debbarrows - wil you be there?

 21:16:14  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I was experimenting with, interesting, need more time

 21:16:14  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: who is speaking?

 21:16:22  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Mike

 21:16:24  DebBarrows -> -EdTechTalk: No, CEC for me this year

 21:16:26  shoemap -> -EdTechTalk: our high school students don't want to carry laptops around

 21:16:31  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Alice

 21:16:32  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy -- yep -- interesting -- but not a quick use -- takes time to see it all

 21:16:33  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: hi durff, mike, karenjan, linda, maureen,

 21:16:34  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: im a high school student

 21:16:34  shoemap -> -EdTechTalk: of course they have too many books

 21:16:39  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: it is not a problem

 21:16:40  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hello MArsenault

 21:16:42  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: CEC keynote speaker is The Fonz (Henry Winkler)

 21:16:46  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: Anybody going to NSTA in Boston next wek?

 21:16:50  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: anyone know who is speaking?

 21:16:54  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: what is NSTA?

 21:16:55  DebBarrows -> -EdTechTalk: Alice - thanks for posting reminder on Twitter about his show

 21:16:56  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: hi mr.arsenault its sam g in 9th grade

 21:16:57  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: hi steve, just saw you!!

 21:17:01  shoemap -> -EdTechTalk: they like keeping laptop  at school

 21:17:01  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: yes, what is NSTA??

 21:17:05  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl

 21:17:09  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: @durff i think kern

 21:17:11  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Sam.

 21:17:11  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @durff - Kern Kelley and Alice Barr

 21:17:13  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @deb

 21:17:20  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @deb welcome

 21:17:24  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: National Science Teachers

 21:17:24  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: "I'm used to using a PC (we are a Mac school) is often an excuse I hear in my school...

 21:17:33  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: thanks loony and karen

 21:18:01  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @steve - thanks

 21:18:05  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Durff, has your school put any more $ in tech yet?

 21:18:15  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: I'm looking forward to hearing the students' perspectives tonight

 21:18:19  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: no kathy

 21:18:25  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: They will be up in just a few moments!!  :)

 21:18:29  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: pretty soon karenjan, i can't wait !

 21:18:31  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @karenJan Theya re standing by!

 21:18:34  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i buy what we need

 21:18:44  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: im excited too!

 21:18:46  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I still think about what you do on a shoe string and just wonder how far you could go if you had the support

 21:18:48  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: They are in chat room so feel free to ask questions

 21:18:52  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: they add so much to our discussions!

 21:18:56  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: To lose my computers would mean instant, deep depression!

 21:19:05  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: hi students!

 21:19:06  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: How many students are there here tonight?

 21:19:08  becksintex -> -EdTechTalk: new hit song.. "I want my blog back, gimme my blog back"

 21:19:10  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: 3

 21:19:13  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: im one of them

 21:19:15  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: I have three

 21:19:18  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i don't have $ for shoes much less shoestrings

 21:19:21  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Hi, grizzy!

 21:19:25  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: LOL!

 21:19:34  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: hello this is my first time ever being here

 21:19:38  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: its very intresting

 21:19:38  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i mean it

 21:19:46  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: isn't this fun grizzy! :)

 21:19:47  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Yeah, it's fun

 21:19:55  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: I'm a fan of Google Apps for 1:1 as well.

 21:19:58  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @grizzy - what's the most important program that has helped you with your learning?

 21:20:09  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I wish we could get google apps

 21:20:20  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: on the computer?

 21:20:24  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: why can't you kathy?

 21:20:25  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: It's something that downtown needs to approve

 21:20:28  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @Alice, @kern - thanks for inviting your students

 21:20:36  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @grizzy, yes

 21:20:47  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: Can the volume be brought up a little- maybe it's just me, but hard to hear

 21:20:48  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @KarenJan Welcome

 21:21:09  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: maureen, can you turn your volume up, mine shows good levels

 21:21:14  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: We have a huge county they like control

 21:21:22  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i hope someone twittered this because i'm away from home computer or laptop

 21:21:26  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: just having microsoft word when ever we need it. We are able to     work on our homework at school and at home,we can also bring it easliy back and forth.

 21:21:30  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: Have you seen this:

 21:21:37  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: mine is up... i'll try a different media player

 21:21:40  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff, where are you?

 21:21:55  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: at my friend's in fayetteville

 21:22:02  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: we're on spring break

 21:22:05  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: At least now we can access our creative works via internet! Wish I had that when I was writing my dissertation YEARS ago!! Had to type in on a typewriter!

 21:22:06  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: We also have school e-mails which make it easy to contact our       teachers at any time! and we can turn in work electronicly

 21:22:09  becksintex -> -EdTechTalk: offers a digital portfolio

 21:22:19  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: went to church this evening at saw many people

 21:22:30  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: it was a bug powow

 21:22:41  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: bug? no big

 21:23:01  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: though bug powow would be interesting

 21:23:14  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: What a great idea! Love it. Do they use last names?

 21:23:15  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: That's a great idea!

 21:23:18  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: hey that youtube is perfect for my prof deve session next week.  I'm doing an intro to web 2.0 thx

 21:23:20  ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff LOL

 21:23:23  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: bug powow could be a topic here on wow lol

 21:23:30  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi colleen

 21:23:36  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think digital portfolios are essential for students to continue to use once they leave school. We required them for all of our teacher ed. university students

 21:23:37  ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Lisa!

 21:23:37  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: COWS -- Computer on Wheels -- :)  just in case you were like "HUH?"  :)

 21:23:41  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: it could loony

 21:23:54  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i want those jen

 21:24:00  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Me Too, Lisa

 21:24:01  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: Cool idea! In middle of RFP for middle school - stealing it!!!

 21:24:02  becksintex -> -EdTechTalk: listening to this gets me depressed -- our teachers don't even have laptops

 21:24:11  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: a few cows for next year like allanah has

 21:24:14  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: how many COWs?

 21:24:18  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: COWS is not as good as 1:1

 21:24:21  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: what do u mean COWs?

 21:24:23  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: thanks jen glad i know what cows are or i would have thought something else

 21:24:23  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: so i could integrate more

 21:24:29  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk:

 21:24:42  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @becksintex do they have desktops?

 21:24:43  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: grizzy - plug carts for the laptops

 21:24:47  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: @sendKathy I've used it with teachers - I didn't show the whole thing - it gets a bit repetitive and people who don't blog or read blog don't find it as funny as people who do...

 21:24:50  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: 1:1 creates spontaneous use when needed.

 21:24:50  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: we are really good at dropping acronyms and assuming everyone knows -- :)

 21:25:04  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: o thans

 21:25:12  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i always get them wrong i think

 21:25:14  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: we had those in younger grades

 21:25:22  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes grizzy

 21:25:23  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @lizdavis yeah it seems like it might be a good attention grabber and conversation starter

 21:25:28  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: we have 1 cart- 7 laptops, can't go upstairs or to the other buildings on campus- so 4 classrooms could use it, and they'd have to double or triple up

 21:25:31  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: do wonder if 1:1 is the best - how do you handle battery issues, bootup time issues, etc?

 21:25:45  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: weight issues, etc

 21:25:58  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: but not all classrooms need them at the same time anyway

 21:26:02  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: bootup times do not make issues. kids just put them to sleep between classes.

 21:26:03  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: we have elevator in our school for handicapped students

 21:26:06  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: it could work

 21:26:09  shoemap -> -EdTechTalk: @KarenJan need lots of pwer strips

 21:26:18  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: if we could just find a grant....

 21:26:19  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: batteries are not much of an issue.

 21:26:19  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: for battery issues, we have lots of batterys that we are able to        change at any time.

 21:26:29  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: voicethreads are awesome!

 21:26:33  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome CathyJo  --

 21:26:34  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: and we all have our own chargers!

 21:26:36  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i got teacher using ning

 21:26:42  Cathyjo (is late) -> -EdTechTalk: sorry so late

 21:26:42  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: and podcasts

 21:26:44  Kern -> -EdTechTalk:

 21:26:49  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: another using ustream

 21:26:50  ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: @lizbdavis Maine Connection = more folks for the NE meetup :)

 21:26:51  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @grizzy - do you carry laptops, cables chargers and textbooks?

 21:26:52  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: okay, students get ready to come into skype.

 21:26:55  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: taught VT today to 2 teachers

 21:26:56  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: ok

 21:27:03  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: should we quit out of itunes yet?

 21:27:07  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: and another is blogging but i take no credit

 21:27:12  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: if we kids choice - they will teach others - but too often we assign the assignment - instead of telling them to create

 21:27:41  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: taught sped. had to have peers teaching peers

 21:28:01  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: what does he call them

 21:28:01  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: ?

 21:28:09  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: We call our computer Kid teams -- KOPS -- Kids Operating Projector(S)

 21:28:13  Cathyjo (is late) -> -EdTechTalk: has anyone heard an update about Marc Prensky?

 21:28:19  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: tech sherpas?

 21:28:22  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: a sherpa is something who carries your items - like while climbing

 21:28:23  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: CathyJo -- nothing recent

 21:28:24  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: and the digital illegal alien = me

 21:28:40  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @loony - i think Voice Thread is the best tool for Differentiated Instruction for our kids with special needs!

 21:28:41  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i need a sherpa

 21:28:54  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: VoiceThread can be used for ALL ages

 21:28:56  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: tech becomes alot more palitable when you ise terms like sherpas and cows

 21:28:57  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes karen it is!

 21:28:59  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: i agree @karenjan

 21:29:01  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: @durff :)

 21:29:07  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: So with their 1:1 experience are students taking their laptops home and bringing them back every day? Is the entire curriculum taught through the computers?

 21:29:11  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: true kern

 21:29:13  Cathyjo (is late) -> -EdTechTalk: hi Kern I made it!

 21:29:21  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: see examples at

 21:29:24  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: can we commit to teaching it to every special educator in our buildings?

 21:29:24  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi cathyjo

 21:29:26  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: hey Cathyjo

 21:29:35  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: In Yarmouth all kids take their laptops home.

 21:29:37  Cathyjo (is late) -> -EdTechTalk: i durff

 21:29:40  Cathyjo (is late) -> -EdTechTalk: hi

 21:29:41  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: they do make it back.

 21:29:48  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: @karenjan and once they see how easy it is, i think they will be hooked

 21:30:05  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @loonyhiker - ABSOLUTELY!

 21:30:16  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: i love using Google spreadsheets for data collection

 21:30:58  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: How does tech dept deal with support and virus issues if they take their laptops home?

 21:30:58  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: Although Numbers can be prettier, google is great for collaberation

 21:31:10  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: @colettec  The new forms are great!

 21:31:17  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome Gail!!!

 21:31:18  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: yes - the forms are great

 21:31:23  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: @lindanitsche they are Macs ;)

 21:31:29  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks, Jen

 21:31:32  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i use wikis to collaborate

 21:31:41  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: Go Apple!

 21:31:48  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: do you use google apps for education?

 21:31:59  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: Quest for kids:  are any teachers using CMS like Moodle or bulletin borads?

 21:32:04  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i use a lot of google stuff

 21:32:06  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: We are playing around with the idea

 21:32:07  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: i have never heard of google apps?

 21:32:09  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @students - what do you wish your teachers knew about how you are using the technology to learn the curriculum?

 21:32:10  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: is there a reason he mentioned sharing with only 6 students -- is that a Google Dos restriction or a teacher request??

 21:32:13  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: (Google Apps)

 21:32:24  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: all 7th do RSS in Googlereader

 21:32:32  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: 7th and up

 21:32:35  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: I use Google Docs with a class of 30 - no probl

 21:32:44  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Students! You are doing great!

 21:32:46  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: and Google presentations

 21:32:48  chris dahl -> -EdTechTalk: I've been here for a bit, but haven't had a chance to say hello-- I really love that the students are contributing on the topic. nice!

 21:33:00  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hello chris

 21:33:12  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Lisa

 21:33:17  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: do you have restrictions on IM, myspace, facebook, etc?

 21:33:22  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: We are going to PUSH SKYPE to the limits!!!

 21:33:22  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: how are you using Excel?

 21:33:24  ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: This is great to hear the students!

 21:33:31  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: it says a lot that these students don't mind helping us teachers when it is so late and they aren't in class too

 21:33:31  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: excel?

 21:33:46  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: we use Google spreadsheets not excel

 21:34:02  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: its a spreadsheet program

 21:34:04  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: off word

 21:34:05  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: but cheryl would

 21:34:09  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: Go Durff!

 21:34:10  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: thanks ryan,

 21:34:12  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I tried to use FORMS -- but you have to invite people to be able to post --

 21:34:23  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk:  I just used google forms to have teachers sign up for a training session. It worked really well.

 21:34:25  chris dahl -> -EdTechTalk: @durff, just listened to your k12online presentation the other day. I thought it was lovely.

 21:34:25  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Alice Barr -- meet Ryan Bretag -- you two NEED to talk   :)

 21:34:30  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: I just sent out the link

 21:34:39  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: @jenwagner you can just make a form available on a webpage as well.

 21:34:40  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: if you're not trying to break it then you're not trying hard enough

 21:34:41  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: we collect nutrition data of what kids eat at fast food restaurants and then anzlyze it for fat, calories, carbs

 21:34:59  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: @marsenault -- Hmmm, I did not see that option.  Will need to check it out......

 21:35:03  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: thank you chris - i thought it was simply terrible

 21:35:04  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: @colette that mite be 2 scary for me to see lol

 21:35:26  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: we collect two lunches - one healthy, one unhealthy

 21:35:41  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: they are suprised how unhealthy their "healthy" lunches are

 21:35:41  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: Does anyone have an avatar creator program they recomment?

 21:35:55  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i have them all use avatars and screennames/pseudos

 21:35:58  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: recommend

 21:36:00  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: have you tried zoho or do you prefer google docs?

 21:36:13  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: gail use portrait illustrator

 21:36:14  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: Zoho is ok, google is more reliable..

 21:36:14  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Sounds interesting ColetteC

 21:36:19  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: it's great!

 21:36:21  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: thanks, durff

 21:36:23  ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: @JenWagner Forms provides a URL that you can send out. If you go to our miniconference page, we used it to register for the conference with just a link -- no registration with Google or sharing by me required

 21:36:27  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: i haven't tried zoho, all my kids have Google accounts

 21:36:37  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: for girls

 21:36:39  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: I think Zoho is better, but Google is more mainstream and easy to use with kids.

 21:36:53  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: zoho is fun but i haven't done with kids yet

 21:37:02  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: I wanted to try zoho database with my kids

 21:37:06  chris dahl -> -EdTechTalk: is voki g-rated?

 21:37:08  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i don't want to overwhelm them

 21:37:11  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: @ryanbretag -- I will try that -- my PHPESP crashed yesterday in the midst of the St Patrick's Project -- so I ran to check out Google Forms and I might not have been patient!!

 21:37:17  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Hello all!

 21:37:22  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hello BRIAN!!!

 21:37:24  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Brian.

 21:37:27  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Brian

 21:37:33  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: chris i had them use voki - i think it is g rated

 21:37:41  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: hi brian, good to have you hear

 21:37:55  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: repeating questions - @students - what do you wish your teachers knew about how you are using the technology to learn the curriculum?

 21:37:59  chris dahl -> -EdTechTalk: I thought so too. And your avatar speaks!

 21:38:09  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: what IT maintenance problems do you have?

 21:38:09  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Karen -- I will drop that into the skype chat

 21:38:18  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: thanks @jenw

 21:38:22  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: my kids design mini-logos to use as avatars with photo editing program - but they are static - no talking - but fine with me

 21:38:34  ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: If you follow the links from a Voki you can sometimes encounter some PG++ stuff.

 21:38:47  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: minimal... most of the repair is done by apple. We send them off in a box to a local repair facility.

 21:39:06  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: AHH  Apple not PC

 21:39:13  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: I'm wondering if anyone is considering XOs in the discussion of laptops? Although more appropriate for the younger kids, but side steps whole issue of Mac vs. PC

 21:39:14  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: shouldn't they all have either Mac or PC?

 21:39:17  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: i heard the former Gov of Maine discuss your laptop program - very inspirational

 21:39:18  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: What if you brought your own MAC to school -- would that be OKAY??

 21:39:29  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: Maine's 1:1 is all Mac.

 21:39:36  chris dahl -> -EdTechTalk: @colleenK oh, that would be a deterrent.

 21:39:37  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: our kids do it jen

 21:39:46  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: Angus King is a great speaker and very passionate about 1:1.

 21:39:49  ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff why? Shouldn't we be beyond the platform?

 21:39:51  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: didn't he just say the use PC'S -- hmmm, perhaps I heard wrong

 21:40:01  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: ryan - these are kids

 21:40:05  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome Dr. Cheri!!!!

 21:40:09  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: and JBAILEY -- welcome

 21:40:09  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi cheri!

 21:40:10  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: Apple gave the state a great deal on them!

 21:40:12  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Angus King speech:

 21:40:13  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: I can bring my MAc to school- tech let's me on the ALL PC district

 21:40:17  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Durff

 21:40:18  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: no we are using macs

 21:40:19  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: Well..... I bring my Mac to school because I work with the tech department and use my laptop for educational purposes. But overall it is prohibited.

 21:40:23  DebBarrows -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Jeff

 21:40:29  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Deb

 21:40:30  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: do the kids use skype to do distance discussions?

 21:41:11  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: our kids don't feel welcome to bring laptops to school - no one but me allows them to be used in class

 21:41:13  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: we started using Skype for a student stuck at home with a health issue

 21:41:14  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: Just lost my internet connection. I'm back.

 21:41:38  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: We are trying to work with skype with the student that is out for a few weeks. So far it is working alright.

 21:41:40  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: one or two i have for several classes bring theirs

 21:41:43  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Why are districts so against the use of Skype?

 21:41:51  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: Got me.

 21:41:51  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: We are just starting to talk 1:1 -- pros and cons of the kids providing their own??  Any thoughts??

 21:41:55  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: no eating mics

 21:41:55  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff - there's something wrong with this picture

 21:41:56  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: My district is HP only except our 8 year iBooks

 21:42:04  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Is the Skype issue a bandwidth issue?

 21:42:05  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes gail there is

 21:42:06  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Jeff

 21:42:10  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Kern

 21:42:23  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: @durff our kids need an iep that says they need their laptop... I let them use whatever they want in my class, but it's not really allowed

 21:42:23  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: KarenJan -- I have dropped your ???  not sure when it will be asked

 21:42:32  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: peggy we aren't allowed to download it

 21:42:36  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: thanks@jenW!

 21:42:43  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: so i brought mine from home

 21:42:59  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Oh that makes sense. Most districts have restrictions about downloading applications.

 21:43:02  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: one kid brought his skype on his flashdrive

 21:43:10  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @maureen - do they bring their laptops to school?

 21:43:18  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: ?? for kids:  do you feel your teachers know how to use 1:1 affectively?

 21:43:29  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: effectively

 21:43:32  shoemap -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff that's what I do (install from USB)

 21:43:33  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: :)

 21:43:40  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff Skype on a flash drive - very clever.  There's always a work around!

 21:43:41  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: Nice Q @colettec.

 21:43:44  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: my son could bring his laptop because he needs text-to-speech, doesn't bring it cuz no one else does

 21:43:52  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: We have 1:1, good tech, but most teachers tell the students to put the laptop away during class...sad

 21:43:55  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i need to buy more U3flashdroves

 21:43:55  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: The Skype web site has links to very questionable Skypecasts. Skype itself is hard to block. The tough thing for some teachers is to get Skype loaded on their computer. Many think that since the Skype web site is blocked Skype itself is blocked which isn't true.

 21:44:04  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: My teachers are getting better each year. The first years were tough. I'm in my 6th year of 1:1.

 21:44:04  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: drives

 21:44:07  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: yes, but they are not allowed to use them unless they are in study hall or my class or in an electronic music class

 21:44:14  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: oh the fingers are chilly

 21:44:25  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @maureen - so what's the point????

 21:44:41  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for the questions just saw them, will get to them

 21:44:46  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes maureen - point?

 21:44:58  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: many kids need the text-to-speech,organizing or study skills tools

 21:45:03  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: I have Skype on my laptop, just can't get it to connect reliably

 21:45:07  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: oo - good question

 21:45:16  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: adobe flex

 21:45:29  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: Quite an awsome program

 21:45:44  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Adobe Flex is not part of my CS3 -- hmmmm

 21:45:45  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Doran, do you have the link for your site?

 21:46:19  ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: @JenWagner Adobe Flex is a separate application.

 21:46:22  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Karen - i have kids that use speech to text - jott really helps too

 21:46:25  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk:

 21:46:42  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: just looked it up looks more like a developer tool to me

 21:46:48  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: our teachers are worried about tech- not comfortable with it at all... my point- kids who don't have ieps can't officially use them at my school.. seems very silly

 21:46:50  Doran.Smestad -> -EdTechTalk: (It is a work in progress)

 21:47:01  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Durff - so your kids are allowed to use cell phones for jott? that's awesome!

 21:47:07  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi 1:1

 21:47:11  1:1 -> -EdTechTalk: hi

 21:47:21  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Karen and Colette -- your questions are coming

 21:47:21  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: only in my room

 21:47:25  1:1 -> -EdTechTalk: found this on twitter

 21:47:27  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: in just about 5 seconds!!!

 21:47:31  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i use Gabcast for homework

 21:47:34  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @jenw - hear the question!!

 21:47:35  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: In my district some schools are paying for wireless cell cards to get around the district filter ... for teachers.I have a card and a router to share it. It seems to work OK for about 6 computers. Skype works great!

 21:47:43  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: encourage them to do homework in my room

 21:47:44  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: Jott is great.  I bent the rules and asked students to use cell phones to record on gabcast

 21:48:03  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: rules are meant to be broken

 21:48:20  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: durff - love it!

 21:48:30  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: other teachers confiscate iPods and cellphones - i use them

 21:48:36  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: cool! student tech group!

 21:48:40  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: gabcast is great to record interviews - my students used it for career interviews

 21:48:41  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: BTW Skype works on our district network too.

 21:48:43  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: renegade that i am

 21:49:00  chris dahl -> -EdTechTalk: wonder if district tech/admin really needs to be educated.

 21:49:04  ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: Great line! "Educate them about what we can do"

 21:49:05  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: no kidding brian

 21:49:09  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: The rules are meant to be rewritten, too bad we haven't figured out that we aren't the only authors interested in that story.

 21:49:16  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff you are the Rambo of the edtech world

 21:49:19  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: great answer

 21:49:27  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: kathy - no gun

 21:49:28  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy lol!

 21:49:44  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: LOL

 21:49:44  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: can't type and listen at the same time

 21:49:56  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: aw c'mon Karen

 21:50:00  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: me too karenjan

 21:50:02  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: we all are

 21:50:07  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: i learn from my kids all the time - i don't have time to learn it all!!!

 21:50:17  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: the essence of backchanneling

 21:50:19  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: I'm not getting an the show closed?

 21:50:21  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: durff - it's my disability!

 21:50:22  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: al la WOW

 21:50:22  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: @ryanbretag -- perhaps the title of your next BLOG POST??  :)

 21:50:27  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: teachers are often scared to learn

 21:50:33  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i am disabled Karen

 21:50:44  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: sorry i took that one from you

 21:50:53  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @durff and you are impressive!

 21:50:53  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi congerjan

 21:50:57  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: too many teachers are used to being the "experts" - we must let go

 21:51:01  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: @jbailey -- the link to the audio is to your RIGHT

 21:51:02  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: nope just annoying

 21:51:02  DebBarrows -> -EdTechTalk: Jeff - did you click on one of the audio channel icons on the right

 21:51:03  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: ITS CALLED LEARNING

 21:51:07  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: Teachers can get overwhelmed very easily. They don't like not knowing how to do things.

 21:51:20  congerjan -> -EdTechTalk: Hi!

 21:51:21  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: @grizzy93 Many are scared to FAIL

 21:51:32  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i love not knowing and having kids know

 21:51:40  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: just the other day...

 21:51:42  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: yes that sounds better

 21:51:46  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: I often hear that the kids know how to entertain themselves with tech, but need guidance as to how to use tech for "learning". What do the kids think of this statement?

 21:51:47  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I like everyone sharing what they know with me

 21:51:50  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: a 7th grader shined!

 21:51:55  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: love that

 21:51:55  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: student was the one who got me connected to the internet and he taught me so much all 4 years he was in school :)

 21:51:57  DebBarrows -> -EdTechTalk: Jeff - can you hear the audio

 21:51:57  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I know I can't possibly know everything

 21:51:59  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: yes many are afraid to fail, but now you remember what its like to be a student again

 21:52:02  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: that's why I'm here

 21:52:13  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: It's exhausting to feel that you need to know everything

 21:52:14  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: you come pretty close kathy

 21:52:17  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: great to have you all in the chat room tonight.

 21:52:18  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: Got it now THanks all.

 21:52:20  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: teachers need to let go

 21:52:20  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: so true

 21:52:33  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: I hadn't listened on my Mac before

 21:52:35  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: What do students think their teachers need to know about technology? Oh my, oh my, what an important question to ask!

 21:52:37  ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: great question Maureen

 21:52:40  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: he hooked up my first computer and his parents had to drive him to my house cuz he didn't have a license

 21:52:44  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: What would the students like to teach the teachers?

 21:52:46  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: Teachers would never tollerate the negative things they say about their ability to learn new technologies if their students said it.

 21:53:01  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @maureen-that's a great question for the students!!

 21:53:08  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: smiles -- it is good to laugh on WOW2 again

 21:53:13  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: Company has arrived.  Will return to upcoming sessions of WOW2!

 21:53:20  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: :)

 21:53:22  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: bye gail

 21:53:25  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: It's good to hear your laugh on WOW2 again Jen

 21:53:26  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hmmm -- where is Maureen's question???

 21:53:35  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: I'm using wikis and blogs for the first time with kids this year... my kidds know that I'm learning this as I go.

 21:53:35  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: @ColletteC I try to point that out.

 21:53:40  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Gail for stopping bye

 21:53:45  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: Bye Durff.  Hear you soon!

 21:53:49  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: ask gail's qt

 21:54:07  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @lizb- that is so true - students can't admit difficulty to teachers

 21:54:08  gail desler -> -EdTechTalk: My pleasure Jen. Almost as much fun as CUE;-)

 21:54:09  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: wow time always flies here!

 21:54:14  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I am looking for Gail's question

 21:54:17  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: This is a record breaking show!

 21:54:27  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Do the kids want to do a show?

 21:54:43  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: OHhh -- nice question

 21:54:48  congerjan -> -EdTechTalk: I am so happy that you all announce on twitter when these shows are on... or I would never get here!

 21:55:06  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Smiles -- Congerjan -- every Tuesday -- you can find us here!!!

 21:55:10  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: What do students wish their teachers knew about tech?

 21:55:11  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: sort of a given  :)

 21:55:13  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @students - we love to learn from you!

 21:55:17  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: My students do a live video show at once a week

 21:55:21  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: KIds - you should host a show called "kids teaching teachers"

 21:55:26  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: i download from itunes

 21:55:31  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: This is a record breaker!

 21:55:32  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: good idea collete

 21:55:34  shoemap -> -EdTechTalk: Students are doing a GREAT job verbalizing their thoughts

 21:55:40  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes!

 21:55:40  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: ColetteC, perfect!

 21:55:47  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: Cheers to the students! GREAT JOB!

 21:55:47  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i typed it

 21:55:52  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: go to itunes to download

 21:55:57  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: and subscribe to the feed

 21:56:10  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: can you ask maureen's question?

 21:56:16  jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: great idea - we have Parents as Partners...we need Students as Sherpas! on EdTechTalk

 21:56:21  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: @marsenault thanks for the Wicked Decent Show idea.  I think that will help us out tomorrow

 21:56:26  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I don't see Maureen's question  sorry

 21:56:29  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: can you type again??

 21:56:33  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: Absolutely, this has been a great show good student voice!

 21:56:44  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Teachers as Sherpas, I feel like it sometimes

 21:56:53  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Jeff, just saw you.

 21:56:54  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: what do student wish their teachers knew about tech?

 21:56:54  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: i love hearing students' views and opinions

 21:57:01  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl

 21:57:10  maureen -> -EdTechTalk:  Repeat of ?I often hear that the kids know how to entertain themselves with tech, but need guidance as to how to use tech for "learning". What do the kids think of this statement?

 21:57:14  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: thanks cheryl!

 21:57:44  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: love it - "be open to learn the tools we discover on our laptops!"

 21:58:08  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: yes, be open, learn, and discover

 21:58:13  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: fear

 21:58:14  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: Education needs risk takers, reflectors, and real audiences

 21:58:16  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: words of wisdom

 21:58:27  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: fear of looking foolish

 21:58:32  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: scared to give up control

 21:58:42  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Cheers for Firefox, I agree

 21:58:44  mbachrodt -> -EdTechTalk: I think kids want teachers to be up to speed on technology they use.

 21:58:47  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Smiles -- Maureen -- we have dropped your question into the chat

 21:58:53  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: well one look in the mirror helped get over that one in a hurry

 21:59:02  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: thanks jen

 21:59:08  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Good show!

 21:59:23  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: and Looks like WOW2 has rippled out a new show-- Students as Sherpas!!

 21:59:31  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: my kids use IM and Skypechat to communicate with me outside of and inside of school

 21:59:50  mbachrodt -> -EdTechTalk: @durff-excellent!

 21:59:52  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: parents and other teachers/admin too

 21:59:54  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: It can take some time to get kids signed up.

 22:00:08  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: had to show principal how to be invisible on IM

 22:00:10  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: Do it once and then they can use all the google tools in all of their classes.

 22:00:25  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: Anybody know if Google Educator program is still running?

 22:00:44  Cathyjo (is late) -> -EdTechTalk: argg got to go. 

 22:00:49  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: my kids presented PPT shows in Google presentations while the rest of the class chatted about the presentation and there was 100% engagement

 22:00:52  Cathyjo (is late) -> -EdTechTalk: great show kids!!

 22:00:55  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: firefox add-ons are great that way (see invisible students anyway and they hate it)

 22:00:58  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: thank you

 22:01:01  anon -> -EdTechTalk: @stevesoko I believe Google Educator Academy is still running but

 22:01:02  ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: @lizbdavis part of the reason we need to look at a student learning space over a course learning space

 22:01:10  anon -> -EdTechTalk: it's changed from what it was to something different.

 22:01:43  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: @anon do you have a link perchance?

 22:01:52  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Great show tonight -- THANKS FOR BEING HERE !!!!!

 22:02:03  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: I've been exploring Google for Non Profits

 22:02:05  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: Ditto Jen, Iagree

 22:02:07  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for having me!

 22:02:10  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: standing ovation for the students!

 22:02:15  anon -> -EdTechTalk: @stevesoko I forgot where I saw it.  probably on twitter or else on CUE community

 22:02:24  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: clap clap

 22:02:27  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks

 22:02:36  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Jake is making a fantastic point--if the learning were engaging for the students they might not be wanting to be using the computer just for games.

 22:02:42  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: but we do it, why can't kids?

 22:03:13  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: if we teach them to use cell phones for learning, how can they use it inappropriately then right

 22:03:15  anon -> -EdTechTalk: @stevesoko make that...

 22:03:19  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: a lot of learning going on in those games

 22:03:22  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: I didn't really mean gaming in class. etc... But it seems to me that a lot of cool tools have evolved from facebook etc. These tools that users have asked for are really great to use for classwork- ie some of the presentation tools, etc

 22:03:23  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: what do you mean durff

 22:03:28  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: gaming is learning

 22:03:42  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @durff, yes! aren't you glad we aren't in high school? I'd have a difficult time being a 21st century student in a 20th century school

 22:03:45  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: what are we doing grizzy

 22:03:56  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: @durff i agree - we backchannel and multitask during this presentation - but we are learning aren't we

 22:04:02  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i was a terrible student

 22:04:03  congerjan -> -EdTechTalk: is it David Warlick who says they need us to help them "work the information" on the Internet

 22:04:12  jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: so I doodled on paper...they doodle on line, if the content is boring we all find something to do.

 22:04:17  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes colette

 22:04:19  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think his point wasn't exactly about the games but about doing something they're interested in.

 22:04:22  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: @durff if you had a laptop could it have helped you ?

 22:04:26  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: this helps me process what i'm hearing cuz i'm so visual more than auditory

 22:04:42  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: at PETE-C keynote of dembos who was backchanneling?\

 22:04:57  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Many of my elem students want me to tell them what to do next

 22:05:00  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: he called it synethisizing learning

 22:05:06  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: i agree peggyg - if we engage them -then they won't be bored

 22:05:15  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i refuse linda

 22:05:25  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: and it infuriates them

 22:05:27  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: i love that these students know what they think and r willing to share

 22:05:28  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: i lasted two minutes watching a webex where the presenter read his slides. our students don't have that option

 22:05:35  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: I try to help them think about what they could do next

 22:05:44  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: never read your slides

 22:05:52  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: preso 2.0

 22:05:59  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: its called creating an environment of learning

 22:06:03  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: bring presos up to speed

 22:06:09  maureen -> -EdTechTalk: This was the best show!!

 22:06:17  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you students for joining us. It is great to hear your perspective.

 22:06:20  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yeah!! wow!!

 22:06:22  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Maureen!!!

 22:06:23  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: thanks to the students

 22:06:34  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: wonderful show tonight!

 22:06:38  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: *Clap clap*

 22:06:40  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: thanks to all in the chat room

 22:06:41  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: It was delightful and extremely valuable to hear the student voices tonight! Thanks to all of you!!! You were awesome!

 22:06:44  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: Yay!

 22:06:45  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: clap clap

 22:06:48  lizbdavis -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks everyone.

 22:06:49  marsenault -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Alice and Kern and your great students.

 22:06:54  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: thanks kids - i will share your opinions with my adminstrators about bringing 1:1 to my school

 22:06:56  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: clap clap great show tonite

 22:06:59  DebBarrows -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks everyone

 22:07:00  shoemap -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks and goodnight!

 22:07:14  loonyhiker -> -EdTechTalk: nite y'all!

 22:07:33  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: write it down - our show won't be able to do it

 22:07:38  ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: The Maine Connection was awesome...thanks!

 22:07:41  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: is there a link for Kern's course with the ustream shows?

 22:07:52  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: Gotta correct papers and enter grades...

 22:07:53  Kern -> -EdTechTalk:

 22:07:57  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: isn't there a premium version now that takes 25?

 22:08:10  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @Kern-thanks a lot!

 22:08:11  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: I just googled tech chat rooms and this came up. So do yall answer questions or something? lol, sorry.

 22:08:27  cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk: bye all, thanks for coming by.

 22:08:35  jbailey -> -EdTechTalk: bye

 22:08:37  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hi HD -- we just ended -- It is a weekly Education Technology Show

 22:08:45  Kern -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks everyone!

 22:08:49  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: Ahh...that sounds kinda cool.

 22:08:50  ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: we need more students blogging along with teachers - look how much have we learned from arthus this year

 22:09:00  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: every Tuesday night same time

 22:09:03  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @HD-Mystery-you're coming in on the end of a weekly podcast--this one was with students and educators in Maine

 22:09:04  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: join us next week!!!

 22:09:07  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: Starting when?

 22:09:14  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: what time zone HD??

 22:09:18  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: Central

 22:09:20  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: night you all!

 22:09:24  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Every week on Tuesday-go to

 22:09:25  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk:  8 - 9

 22:09:43  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: See you all next week -- Great show!!  Thanks for being here!!!!

 22:09:45  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: I'll be here next time :D

 22:09:47  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: it is good to be back

 22:09:49  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Great HD

 22:09:53  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: good night!!

 22:09:56  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: Wait!

 22:09:59  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: sye

 22:10:01  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: sure

 22:10:08  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: still here

 22:10:12  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: Can someone tell me where I can get questions answered about HD TVs?

 22:10:25  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: LOL -- Hmmmm -- not sure

 22:10:28  chris dahl -> -EdTechTalk: lol

 22:10:28  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: lol

 22:10:31  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: sorry

 22:10:32  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: bye

 22:10:33  grizzy93 -> -EdTechTalk: night

 22:10:35  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: It's okay

 22:10:36  mbachrodt -> -EdTechTalk: I had great help at Best Buy, recently!

 22:10:36  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: Night

 22:10:41  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I would say BB too

 22:10:44  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: They just closed :(

 22:10:47  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: ahhhh

 22:10:48  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: sorry

 22:10:53  chris dahl -> -EdTechTalk: night, thanks for an interesting presentation

 22:10:54  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: Tomorrow I'll go earlier

 22:11:01  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: night Chris

 22:11:05  HD_Mystery -> -EdTechTalk: Well, I'll be here next week, later yall.

 22:11:06  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: see you all next week --

 22:11:09  JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Great HD

 22:11:09  chris dahl -> -EdTechTalk: later

 22:11:29  mbachrodt -> -EdTechTalk: Get a HD TV with a tuner so you can pick up the digital stations when that is all there is next year.


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