A provocative conversation about Teachers Speaking Up w/ @AndreaZellner, @KSchulten, @StevenZemelman, @Ochoajen @MsSandersTHS, and Pat Delaney on this episode of TTT (Please subscribe with this link: http://www.teachersteachingteachers.org/feed/podcast/ (And BTW http://cloud.feedly.com is a great replacement for Google Reader. The App, BeyondPod now integrates with Feedly.)
This episode is a follow up to TTT#351 Teachers Speaking Up w/ Jesse Hagopian, Diana Laufenberg, José Vilson, Steven Zemelman, Pat Delaney, Maribeth Whitehouse http://edtechtalk.com/node/5198 -- and we plan more on this topic later this summer.
20:46@AndreaZellner: Hi karen!
20:46karen (@kfasimpaur): Hi, Andrea!
20:46karen (@kfasimpaur): I'm just watching the May show. Good stuff.
20:46@AndreaZellner: I didn't do my homework (still need to watch it) shhhh.....
20:47karen (@kfasimpaur): ;)
20:58@AndreaZellner: Jen are you having trouble?
20:58Paul Allison: Jen can you join us yet?
20:59@Ochoajen: I thought you said you were going to call like on Monday. What do I need to do to join?
21:02karen (@kfasimpaur): Jen, you need to go to the hangout.
21:02karen (@kfasimpaur): Link is in the doc to the left.
21:09Christina: hi everyone!
21:09@AndreaZellner: Hi Christina :)
21:09Christina: is that Pat Delaney?!
21:09@AndreaZellner: it is: he has the flu
21:09Christina: you are chatting and talking simultaneously!
21:09Christina: amazing you are :)
21:09@AndreaZellner: I'm not: there's a lag. So I'm a few minutes ahead of what you guys see!
21:10@AndreaZellner: It's super fun to pretend I'm awesome though.
21:10Christina: ah! that makes sense.
21:17dlaufenberg: hello there..
21:17karen (@kfasimpaur): Hi Diana.
21:17karen (@kfasimpaur): You should go join the hangout.
21:17@AndreaZellner: Hi Diana
21:17dlaufenberg: lost track of time
21:18Christina: oh my god! That's amazing ...
21:18Christina: In her bed. That is really deep.
21:19Christina: deeply beautiful, that is :)
21:22dlaufenberg: been getting some press in philly - seems like the faces are striking a cord
21:25Christina: go Larissa and @tagphilly!
21:31dlaufenberg: Lehmann refers to it as ... a confused conversation because there are policy issues and a pedagogical issues... not the same thing. but often swept up into one conversation
21:32karen (@kfasimpaur): Do the unions take up the issue of what's good for kids?
21:35@AndreaZellner: Karen: they do, but they don't get heard
21:35dlaufenberg: @karen I have always seen those as intertwined, in smaller unions it was always an issue we kept in the conversation... but not as much in Philly.
21:35@AndreaZellner: I think because of the way the media skews those conversations
21:36karen (@kfasimpaur): but it seems that the large (esp national) unions could really influence those conversations
21:36@AndreaZellner: It's almost like people have to take off that union hat for a second...it infuriates me
21:36Peggy George: hi everyone! sorry I'm late!! the Livebinder webinar just finished!
21:36karen (@kfasimpaur): Hi, Peggy
21:36dlaufenberg: yay, Broad Supts! Philly has had three in a row I think.
21:36karen (@kfasimpaur): ...follow the $
21:37dlaufenberg: @karen as with most things these days... truly sickens me.
21:37karen (@kfasimpaur): amen
21:37@AndreaZellner: at least that's true for Michigan...if they think we are "union" the conversation kind of stops. Lansing does not necessarily reflect the case.
21:38@AndreaZellner: reflect the rest of the state I mean
21:38@AndreaZellner: I was listening instead of typing!
21:38@AndreaZellner: @diane: the Broad Sups make me crazy.
21:39dlaufenberg: hi Beth!
21:40karen (@kfasimpaur): such a small % of folks are on twitter #echochamber
21:41dlaufenberg: @karen agreed. I always encourage people to engage their local community in the conversation
21:42Peggy George: good point Karen
21:43karen (@kfasimpaur): In the CCSS discussion, I think parent pushback is going to change things more than teacher voice
21:44karen (@kfasimpaur): ...not really for the best reasons
21:45karen (@kfasimpaur): again, follow the money
21:45@AndreaZellner: @karen: I can't wait to use my parent voice
21:46karen (@kfasimpaur): And we can't wait to hear it @andrea :)
21:46@AndreaZellner: I am planning on opting my kids out of testing. A little nervous about it though!!
21:46karen (@kfasimpaur): It's scarey stuff.
21:46Christina: I also think this connection with organizers is really important ...
21:46karen (@kfasimpaur): (One of many, many reasons I'm not a parent. #wimp)
21:46Peggy George: Lisa Neilsen has some great resources on her Facebook page about opting out of testing
21:47karen (@kfasimpaur): Christina, I'm going to a workshop on public narrative for organizers next week
21:47Christina: it is scary @andrea but its great that you can talk about that.
21:47@AndreaZellner: @Peggy: thanks! I am not on FB anymore, but if I go back I will check that out.
21:47Christina: oh, cool @karen. ... would love to hear more about that.
21:47@AndreaZellner: I'm mostly nervous that it will hurt the school that the kids aren't tested with the sanctions.
21:47karen (@kfasimpaur): I'm hoping to do some writing on the plane...i'm so benind though
21:48karen (@kfasimpaur): yes, we need stories!
21:48@AndreaZellner: oops: i got kicked out of the hangout :(
21:48karen (@kfasimpaur): I've said it b4 but public ed needs a PR campaign
21:49karen (@kfasimpaur): I hope Paul talks about his movie and it's potential to affect this
21:49@AndreaZellner: Wait; Paul has a movie?
21:49karen (@kfasimpaur): not yet...
21:50karen (@kfasimpaur): It's part of the long term Youth Voices plan though... well, Paul should probably talk about it :)
21:50karen (@kfasimpaur): And wait til you see the Kickstarter campaign for that ;)
21:51karen (@kfasimpaur): Lots of new is $-driven too
21:51Peggy George: I know the Hampshire Gazette too!!! I used to live in Amherst MA :-)
21:51karen (@kfasimpaur): news that is
21:51@AndreaZellner: Is it the same kickstarter as the other one?
21:51Christina: this has been going on for years ...
21:51karen (@kfasimpaur): No...it's a much bigger one (yet to be done)
21:51karen (@kfasimpaur): but the other one will partly fund a teaser video
21:51dlaufenberg: also, there is a strong relationship between the teachers and the ed reporter for the Philly Inquirer... she is incredibly active on twitter and invites in the teacher voice all the time
21:51Peggy George: it's reaching the community and not just educators
21:52Peggy George: that's super Diana!
21:55Peggy George: thanks for adding those links in the Titanpad Diana
21:55karen (@kfasimpaur): A PR firm would turn "complaints" around to be stories of potential success arond change
21:55@AndreaZellner: I got kicked out again!! BOOO!
21:55Peggy George: but you keep coming back! great perseverance!
21:56karen (@kfasimpaur): Public narrative would connect to our common experiences and then move towarda positive call for action
21:57dlaufenberg: the faces of the layoffs was 'hooky' - got a ton of attention
21:59Peggy George: people are looking for the stories that affect them personally
21:59@AndreaZellner: Great conversation tonight!! So glad I could be here: sorry I have to go...goodbye everyone!!
22:00karen (@kfasimpaur): Bye Andrea. Great to see you.
22:00Peggy George: thanks for sharing Andrea!
22:00Christina: might be a good thing to imagine as an online study group over a couple weekends ...
22:00karen (@kfasimpaur): great idea, Christina
22:00Christina: local groups doing analysis of their community, bringing that to a shared space and work on strategies, go back
22:02dlaufenberg: woo! Brave New Voices!
22:03Peggy George: that is really cool!!
22:03dlaufenberg: the philly kids won two years ago... it was amazing.
22:04Peggy George: is that the poetry slam?
22:06Peggy George: Smore is a great site for creating newsletters too
22:08Peggy George: awesome conversation! can't wait to listen to the recording of the first half hour to see what I missed!
22:09karen (@kfasimpaur): Thanks everyone.
22:09dlaufenberg: thanks everyone! good night.
22:09Christina: Thanks all! excellent.
22:10Peggy George: thank you all!
22:10Peggy George: good night!