EdTechWeekly#11
EdTechWeekly #11
December 10, 2006
Cathy E | we hear you |
Cathy E | yes |
Cathy E | We like that we are doing it and you are not Ha HA |
Cathy E | evanoffca |
lee | very good |
lee | can hear everything fine |
lee | brb |
Brad Hicks | Hi guys |
dave | Mr. Hicks. |
dave | greetings |
lee | hi all |
Brad Hicks | Just starting? or already been on for a while |
lee | just started |
JenM | actually, really haven't "started" ;) just playing so far ;) |
Brad Hicks | so have you guys installed dimdim on the worldbridges server? |
lee | What site are you on? |
lee | oh dimdim |
Brad Hicks | sorry lee, they are using talkshoe I think |
Jeff | http://incsub.org/awards/ |
Brad Hicks | does talkshoe work internationally |
Brad Hicks | ? |
lee | yea |
lee | yea Brad! |
JenM | http://livelook.net/ password:58233 |
Brad Hicks | I can't take much credit for that - paul reid is the main driver behind Digital Chalkie - and its a group blog - my contribution is a small one |
dave | http://www.pbs.org/teachersource/learning.now/2006/08/educatorranking_we... |
Brad Hicks | so where do i get rate my student? |
Jeff | http://www.platial.com/mapkit/ |
dave | http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=927632 |
Jeff | http://edtechtalk.com/mapkit |
lee | nice picture dave ! |
dave | mmm... not sure where they got that |
lee | :) |
cathy e | Nice comments dave |
JenM | http://www.xfruits.com/ |
dave | http://chimprawk.blogspot.com/2006/06/social-networking-five-sites-you-n... |
JenM | http://xfruits.com/jmaddrell/?id=11248 my rss to pdf of my blog |
Jeff | http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/releases/sunbird0.3.html |
JenM | http://www.linkedin.com/ |
dave | http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.pdf |
Jeff | http://hakia.com/about.html |
dave | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_web |
Jeff | http://www.retrevo.com/ |
dave | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_genericized_trademarks |
JenM | http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html |
dave | http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
Jeff | http://www.webvastu.com/ |
JenM | http://www.dudertown.com/ |
Jeff | http://www.wired.com/news/technology/internet/0,72272-0.html?tw=wn_index_9 |
lee | http://del.icio.us/drupal |
JenM | http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatconnect/compare/ |
Jeff | http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2006/12/08/congress-closes-telco-bil... |
JenM | http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk for:edtechtalk |
JenM | http://www.stikkit.com/ |
dave | http://www.valuesofn.com/screencasts/web20http://www.valuesofn.com/scree... |
JenM | http://www.darcynorman.net/2006/12/06/dreamtube |
Jeff | https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=... |
Jeff | http://incsub.org/awards/ |
JenniferW | I agree -- I only knew 4 of them |
sendkathy | does anyone have a list of their favs on delicious? |
sendkathy | yes |
sendkathy | Well where do you keep your list |
JenniferW | I am not a faithful del.ici.ious user |
cathy e | I'm glad to see David Warlick on the list :) |
JenniferW | and I only had ONE of the nominees as part of my bloglines account |
Jeff | http://edtechtalk.com/edtechtalk.opml |
JenniferW | oops 2 |
JenniferW | one of the nominees -- Beth Little (Kittle?) I just heard of last week through Discovery Educators |
JenniferW | and I think her readership is small but she has the DEN membership behind her to vote. |
sharonp | featured edublog... cool idea |
JenM | http://educational.blogs.com/ |
JenniferW | I look at blogrolls to see what others are reading |
sendkathy | I took one of Jens courses and also two others in flash. I got a lot our of it. |
Jeff | http://www.lvsonline.com/ |
sendkathy | yes, but the first time you \pay an ectra one time charge of 25 |
sendkathy | it ranges |
sendkathy | I had a nice small flash class of 6 |
JenniferW | do you kathy?? I didn't know |
sendkathy | what? |
JenniferW | pay a reg fee |
sendkathy | The cost is a one time charge of 25 and then 25 for each subsequent classes. You get credit for referrals and can earn a free class. |
sendkathy | They always send you a notice about the regitration dates |
sendkathy | They have a server for you to upload your work |
sendkathy | You can pay an extra 5 to be 'certified' |
sendkathy | small world |
JenM | http://ed2go.com/ |
sendkathy | Our system would if you wrote a proposal to do it |
sendkathy | It has to meet all of the requirements |
cathy e | My system would too if there was a prior approval signed by staff dev person in central office |
sendkathy | what is we had a blog weekly blog review |
sendkathy | yes |
sendkathy | must break for dinner , brb |
JenniferW | Sorry-- I am not finding any other online learning websites like LvsOnline.com |
charbeck1 | Why does Stephen hve a dislike of sooo many people? |
JenniferW | I am stunned though -- I didn't realize WILL didn't make it |
JenniferW | do you think EVERYONE thought he would be nominated |
JenniferW | so no one nominated him?? |
JenniferW | I am finding Stephen to be complex but knowledgeable |
lee | how did edtechtalk not get nominated? |
charbeck1 | thanks |
JenniferW | I have to remember his GOOD attributes or I get bugged by his grumpiness |
JenniferW | I agree LEE |
charbeck1 | thousands of subscribers |
JenniferW | I have 10 in bloglines -- that is my limit :) |
charbeck1 | 4000+ |
dave | http://cribchronicles.com/ |
JenniferW | lol - if I add someone, I take someone out :) |
charbeck1 | correction for will 3429 subscribers |
Brad Hicks | If we start getting hung up on why certain people weren't nominated perhaps we shouldn't be bothering with such awards. Perhaps it is better to have these awards purely as a newcomer's each year. otherwise do we just become an introspective network? |
Brad Hicks | at least with newcomer's the network has a chance for refreshing and expansion |
JenniferW | That is what I posted on Will's blog -- I am more intrigued with the NEW Users |
JenniferW | and seeing their perspective |
Brad Hicks | not to ndervalue people like Stephen and Will - but they have an established readership and profile |
charbeck1 | Define tech-learning crowd? |
JenniferW | Brad -- I don't mean to be a grump -- I just think a TOP 5 is good enough for me |
Brad Hicks | and as dave said those people will blog regardless |
charbeck1 | When people leave comments on your siteThen you go and learn from them. |
Jeff | http://edublogosphere.com/ |
JenniferW | and WILL has a "expectation" on why people should blog. And if I adhered to his "why people should blog" I would never blog again. |
sharonp | I don't know, there is a part of me that just wants to blog for reasons other than self-promotion |
lee | I love how happy you all look! |
JenniferW | time to add color |
lee | good point Brad! |
lee | I do agree now that you mention it that way |
JenniferW | Sharon -- did you hear Will's point on WHY to blog at GAETC??? |
Brad Hicks | one of the things you have to say for Stephen is that he covers a broad range of material- much more than most i read |
sharonp | took notes on it.... but what point? |
JenniferW | I shall stay MUTED tomorrow night 100% |
lee | i think stephen has a very distinct personal point of view |
lee | that does not always come off as "nice" |
sharonp | let me check my own blog where I posted notes on his talk.... |
lee | but its real for sure |
JenniferW | that you should BLOG if you have something to say -- it needs to have substance -- it needs to have a reason. |
JenniferW | like an agenda to post |
sharonp | http://www.mtl-peters.net/blog/?p=97 |
JenniferW | he doesn't seem to support casual teaching bloggin |
JenniferW | like -- he would call mine FLUFF |
charbeck1 | Is there a skype chat going on? |
JenniferW | but other's seem to like mine |
sharonp | He said roughly - The blog is an extremely important part of his life. He considers himself a blog snob. To him, blogs are more than journals – the link is a powerful thing – small pieces loosely joined (a book) – when we have links we evaluate it by where those links take us – very specific genre of writing – because of the linking and connecting – intellectual sweat for him (takes time and energy). |
lee | bye dave |
sharonp | He said roughly - The blog is an extremely important part of his life. He considers himself a blog snob. To him, blogs are more than journals – the link is a powerful thing – small pieces loosely joined (a book) – when we have links we evaluate it by where those links take us – very specific genre of writing – because of the linking and connecting – intellectual sweat for him (takes time and energy). |
lee | i have no readers! well one.. terry freedman has been reading mine and vice versa |
sharonp | The point we are at with blogs in classrooms – most of what we are using – are not yet pushing the potential. It is very difficult to find best practices – hard to find spaces where students are using them as places of learning, not just places of journaling. Good blogging starts with reading – from different sources than linking back to them. Reading starts with RSS – good blogging begins with reading – responding, synthesizing, doing critical thinking before they begin the writing process. The idea is to get students to read blogs – and challenge how to vet the authority of a blog. |
lee | but i dont care if people dont read it |
JenM | http://designedtoinspire.com/drupal/node/112 |
lee | since i dont see myself as a good writer |
JenniferW | lee -- you have readers |
JenM | If no one reads your blog, does it have "meaning"? I posed a similar question in my class discussion and got "feedback" that I want to hang onto. Blogs are often tauted as a means for commentary and assessment. Yet, the benefits of blogging for the sake of journaling or personal reflection can become lost in the process of seeking feedback. While I am motivated by the eyes that may one day read this, I was reminded that there are other reasons - beyond seeking feedback - that make blogging a "meaningful" pursuit. Therefore, to answer my own question . . . "yes" and here is why . . . My original proposal to the class: "...what makes a blog more meaningful than a personal learning journal is that the output is shared (and potentially assessed) within a larger community. When we were introduced to writing our own blogs at NYU, we were also given feeds to other “edubloggers” via a blogroll provided by our instructor. We set up accounts on Bloglines.com to track the posts of other professionals in the field. What |
JenniferW | probably a ton -- just perhaps not subscribers |
lee | hmmm thats something I have not thought of... i guess i was thinking of subscribers only but your right..folks probably read alot of stuff and there is little trace of them having been there |
lee | thanks Jenn |
JenniferW | Lee -- I put a counter on my blog |
JenniferW | so I knew if someone was reading |
JenniferW | I only have 45 subscribers-- but I have had over 3,200 readers since September |
JenniferW | you might wish to add a counter |
sharonp | I sort of agree |
sharonp | it is good for me to be writing |
sendkathy | hey wouldn't it be nice to have a feedback survey on a blog. What if you could check 1-5 disliked - enjoyed alot and will share Then ou wouldn't have to write 'meaningful' response |
lee | i do but i just looked and i have it set to start when republished... ok.. a good duh moment. I changed it. |
lee | imean start back at 0 each time i publish |
lee | .mac does that by default |
charbeck1 | How about when you try to get your students to leave comments behind at other blogs have no comments allowed. This is frustrating |
JenniferW | your mac does what??? |
JenniferW | sorry lee -- I don't understand |
charbeck1 | Too many blurkers not enough commenting. It is such an important part of reading blogs. |
JenniferW | blurker ---- LOL --- nice to see my word hanging out here :) |
lee | i do my blog on my computer..then publish at which time it republishes the whole entire site ..there is a place to choose to have the counter start over at 0 each time it is published... i had not turned that version off so it starts at 0 each time i put up something new |
charbeck1 | Just send a Thanks I appreciated your blog. Or do we all read in bloglines. |
lee | blurking again eh? |
sharonp | I read a TON of blogs every week.... but responding takes time - one wants to come off sounding intelligent and appreciative |
JenniferW | Lee -- you use iWeb and dot Mac?? |
lee | yes |
JenniferW | I have it -- I haven't utilized it yet though |
sharonp | aggregators rock - changed my life |
sharonp | gotta rev up my poor blog - one more thing to put on my to-do list for the christmas break |
lee | i am trying to use all apple as much as possible to check on its seamless usability |
lee | new word! :) |
JenniferW | http://coolcatteacher.blogspot.com/ Vicki's blog has cocomments |
lee | brb |
charbeck1 | How much room do sidebars have?!! |
charbeck1 | Web women not needing men talking about education and ..... |
sharonp | chris, I am confused about your comment about web women... |
charbeck1 | not needing men might be leading people the wrong way too |
charbeck1 | I meant Fabio need not listen unless they are edubloggers! |
sharonp | you need a filter for your fingers? |
cathy e | I don't understand how to vote for the edublog award |
maria | Hi Cathy |
cathy e | duh - I see now - at the bottom of each section |
Jeff | http://edtechtalk.com/EdTechTalk30_Edublog_Awards |
lee | sharon, did you get the calender site address i sent you for the spacecast scheduling? |
sendkathy | is there a category for formal audio blogs? (with written scripts) |
cathy e | hello maria |
sharonp | yes, I did - was there supposed to be something on it? |
sendkathy | edublogcon2007? |
Jeff | http://edublogs.org/ |
lee | there is now.. i didnt have it figured out when i first posted it |
charbeck1 | ANy one could nominate |
JenniferW | so this site -- http://supportblogging.wikispaces.com/ is different than edublogs |
lee | http://www.calendarhub.com/calendar/91156/month/2006/12 |
sendkathy | What do the winners get? |
charbeck1 | A bunch of blogs had it as posts |
lee | you should be able to add your sschedule.. i put when i am able to webcast and have kids |
JenniferW | prestige |
charbeck1 | there is |
JenniferW | subscribers |
lee | winners get happy :) |
sendkathy | what no badge? |
lee | at least for a day or two! hehe |
sendkathy | american idol? |
charbeck1 | There is some kind of check |
sendkathy | very nice |
charbeck1 | Everyone thought Faith Hill at the same time |
JenniferW | its called "A Faith Hill" now |
JenniferW | if you display an unexpected emotion |
sendkathy | I like the acceptance speeches on the webby awards. They cannot exceed 5 words!! very creative in some cases |
lee | and all must learn the parade wave |
JenniferW | 5 words -- that is cool |
sendkathy | http://www.webbyawards.com/press/speeches.php |
sendkathy | queen wave |
sendkathy | Jeff I think I'm ready to try simple cast can we talk later |
JenniferW | post show??? |
maria | I have one question for you |
maria | have you all heard about Seymour Papert? |
sharonp | Logo guru |
maria | yes - in a coma in Hanoi |
maria | yes - as far as I know |
Jeff | http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml%3FarticleID%3D1966... |
Durff | Is Seymour still alive? |
Jeff | http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=196602670 |
maria | I think so - I just can't find any thing new today |
charbeck1 | Thanks everyone. See you all on tuesday |
Jeff | http://www.mydeathspace.com/ |
cathy e | I was listening to that twit podcast- I had never thought about it |
Brad Hicks | here we had a well known technology educator whose online resources were maintanied as a sort of memorial after his death |
lee | interesting thought |
charbeck1 | Hi again every one. The second when night freefalls will take place in January. http://k12online.wikispaces.com/Free+Fall+Planning+Page+for+January. Is the wiki page. Sorry if this is cutting into a different conversation. |
sendkathy | http://www.nabaztags.com/ anyone heard about these? |
Brad Hicks | http://www.ecawa.asn.au/home/jfuller |
maria | Thank you |
lee | you know.. its something that this whole online community and resource gives ones such a new life in ways so i suppose a new version of death or life ever after will come into play more and more |
lee | yes deeeep |
lee | jeff.. godady the best domain name purchasing co.? |
JenM | nite! |
lee | or are there other ones that are good? |
lee | as good |
JenniferW | 260???? wow, I thought 5 was ba |
JenniferW | bad |
JenniferW | I use siteground -- |
JenM | http://designedtoinspire.com/drupal/node/430 one more thing :) |
lee | say that again |
lee | i may have many |
lee | siteground |
sharonp | If I had been paying attention, I CERTAINLY would have nominated WorldBridges for an award! |
lee | well thats good to know |
JenniferW | Lee I host my site with siteground |
lee | ok |
JenniferW | and I was able to obtain the name there too |
JenniferW | they have fantastico as part of the package |
JenniferW | so I was able to add a drupal soooo easily |
cathy e | I love that bunny- so what other toys do ya'll want for Christmas? |
JenniferW | we host Women of Web 2. with them |
JenniferW | I want an iPod too :) |
lee | yes yea |
lee | what fun |
JenniferW | and the recorder for the ipod -- kathy, what is it called?? |
lee | hear hear |
lee | nite |
sendkathy | xtreme mac |
lee | thankkyou |
JenniferW | thanks Kathy |
sendkathy | 59.99 |
Brad Hicks | just waiting to see what Jason is up to |
sharonp | gotta get back to my marking - Night all! |
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