July 23, 2006
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A day of governance. We sat down with some people from the community and discussed where we are going on many issues. If you want to be involved in edtechtalk/educationbridges this'll be a great show. If you just like to listen and skip to the next track, this might be one to pass on by.
19:06:27 dave-on-air: hi bill
19:06:49 DS: hi all
19:07:02 JL: hey doug
19:07:44 JL: https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=...
19:10:45 billfitzgerald: are other people on the skypecast hearing an echo?
19:10:54 billfitzgerald: or is this just me?
19:11:34 billfitzgerald: I'm logging out, then rejoining
19:11:52 billfitzgerald: I'll be rejoining in a sec
19:12:33 billfitzgerald: better!
19:17:00 JasonR: Obviously interested in helping out as best I can, especially with virtualbridges.net
19:17:37 cheryloakes: checking chat
19:17:40 DS: what's the "term of office"?
19:17:44 billfitzgerald: what is the relationship b
19:17:59 billfitzgerald: between discrete sections and governance?
19:18:02 DS: maybe start at three
19:18:41 cheryloakes: how about having co-members who can committ to 6
19:18:53 cheryloakes: that way you have backup
19:20:15 billfitzgerald: how about separating functional responsibilities (tech side)
19:20:23 billfitzgerald: from content responsibilities?
19:20:30 dave-on-air: nice idea
19:22:12 Lee_Ann: Hi Joyce!
19:22:17 joycevalenza: hi
19:23:39 JasonR: Leo Laporte did a nice interview on the Podcast411 that's germaine... http://podcast411.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=547 ...he facilitates the tech of his podcasts, but leaves it to the co-host (Amber McArthur, Steve Gibson, etc.) to do the legwork on scheduling guests and developing content. Interesting.
19:25:16 Lee_Ann: hi bob
19:25:23 JasonR: germane even
19:25:32 Lee_Ann: you can mute me now! thanks
19:25:33 elderbob: Hi, I can hear and I can see the chat room.
19:25:38 dave-on-air: the jackson's are people too
19:25:48 dave-on-air: lol jason
19:25:58 Lee_Ann: drupal master...that is a good name for it
19:29:42 billfitzgerald: RE: overlap -- it also depends on the goal
19:29:50 billfitzgerald: there is a lot to be said for multiple voices
19:29:56 JasonR: Thanks
19:30:48 billfitzgerald: the calculus between content/quality/relevance/timeliness
19:31:32 dave-on-air: hi brad
19:31:35 DS: Hi Brad
19:32:02 Lee_Ann: hi brad
19:32:15 DS: lol
19:33:10 dave-on-air: http://www.edtechtalk.com/wiki/index.php/EdTechTalk:_Where_are_we_going%3F
19:33:17 Brad_Hicks: Hi guys
19:33:41 billfitzgerald: sorry all -- need to leave the chat
19:33:50 JasonR: Bye
19:33:53 billfitzgerald: I'll check the transcript
19:34:00 billfitzgerald: love you all
19:34:06 billfitzgerald: warm fuzzies all around
19:34:18 DS: indeed, look fwd to more wd on drupal ill
19:34:23 DS: Bill
19:35:04 Lee_Ann: yes
19:35:06 Lee_Ann: good
19:35:39 Lee_Ann: I need to go as well.... I will talk to you soon and...
19:35:41 Lee_Ann: Dave
19:35:47 dave-on-air: yes.
19:35:48 Lee_Ann: I won!!No I think we tied.
19:35:59 dave-on-air: cheers
19:36:06 Lee_Ann: Ok.
19:36:22 JasonR: Are there any other places that do what EdTech/Worldbridges does? Are there already models out there? Best practices? In mainstream media too?
19:37:12 JasonR: Do we want to make money?
19:37:17 Brad_Hicks: what about saying that the show isd on the worldbridges network
19:37:37 Brad_Hicks: and then just give the name of the particular show?
19:38:09 Brad_Hicks: yes I think we need to look at some form of advertising to give you guys some ease financially
19:38:31 Brad_Hicks: maybe AAC enhanced podacts with images for advertising
19:39:11 JasonR: Grants?
19:39:11 Brad_Hicks: the rest of the community would not want to see worldbridges fall over if you guys struck financial difficulties
19:39:45 Brad_Hicks: yaeh good idea too dave
19:39:58 DS: webcastathon's a cool idea
19:40:35 DS: get a donation box going in 2nd Life
19:40:39 elderbob: The PBS model... Jeff and dave will be right back after we listen to this message...
19:41:36 cheryloakes: a thon's are good, fund raising weekends
19:41:47 JL: http://www.worldbridges.net/domainlist
19:43:06 elderbob: What is the problem with google ads.
19:43:19 DS: lost the skypecast
19:43:38 DS: I'll fire up the stream...
19:43:44 JL: still lost?
19:44:22 JL: https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=...
19:44:29 JL: try getting back in DS
19:44:41 Brad_Hicks: google searching webcasting does not bring us up anywhere near top of list
19:44:53 JasonR: JL, what about bridgebridges.net? For the structural engineering webcasters? :)
19:45:01 elderbob: No, I am talking about GOogle ads, not google placement.
19:45:22 DS: I'm getting weird, "peaks" in the audio on the stream--may be just my computer
19:45:33 elderbob: click through ads related to the content of WorldBridges.
19:45:43 JasonR: My skypecast is creamy smooth, no peaks
19:45:47 Brad_Hicks: merchandise? t-shirts, mugs, y-fronts?
19:46:07 JasonR: You still interested in a logo? Working on some ideas
19:46:16 Brad_Hicks: actually I was thinking of doing a conference session on worldbridges/webcasting here later this year
19:46:36 JasonR: Raises hand
19:46:53 elderbob: No, Brad, but if you have a guest who has a book for sale on Amazon what is wrong with a link that we get .05 cents per each sell of that book due to the google link.
19:48:07 JasonR: afk
19:48:10 cheryloakes: stream is good for me
19:48:18 elderbob: T shirts an coffe mugs lend themselves to the PBS model.
19:48:19 Brad_Hicks: stream is ok for me
19:48:29 elderbob: Stream is fine here.
19:48:44 cheryloakes: an intern can do the tour
19:48:59 JL: good idea
19:49:19 Paul_Ellerman: Not sure if this has been raised, but could we charge for webcasting advice or consulting
19:50:21 cheryloakes: If you can team up with a university or college and give credits us teachers can get reimbursed, so you can generate income.
19:51:08 elderbob: CHeryl, isnt that going to be a problem with finding all the requirements for all the teachers in all the places....
19:51:12 DS: that's why WB has made it this far
19:51:18 DS: never the content indeed
19:51:54 cheryloakes: Elderbob, I think if a college/university sponsors the class, then it would be good.
19:52:04 elderbob: What about if you turned the content into a book or a CD...would you sell it?
19:52:24 dave-on-air: i might talk to my university about that
19:52:38 elderbob: Cheryl, Im not opposed to it, I just think it would be an enormous task.
19:52:41 JasonR: Or a PDF whitepaper/consulting thingy
19:52:46 cheryloakes: good, I'd take classes for credit.
19:53:01 dave-on-air: we might be able to set something up
19:53:03 dave-on-air: don't know
19:53:56 JasonR: Might help to publish some research/articles in some professional edtech journals/magazines
19:54:03 elderbob: Does Drupal send out those events?
19:54:15 elderbob: Google seems more subscriber oriented.
19:54:27 cheryloakes: the ical link works for me
19:54:53 cheryloakes: drupl
19:55:51 Brad_Hicks: yeah ical has been working well for me onto my mac from drupal
19:56:54 JasonR: Did you ever find your cape in SL, JL?
19:57:09 JL: not yet jason
19:57:34 Brad_Hicks: also want some help with creating an iTunes RSS feed - maybe a cut and paste that can be altered, as i have still been having the uploading issue in Drupal and have to post my shows in a different location
19:57:48 Brad_Hicks: yeah, yeah
19:58:40 Brad_Hicks: I hva enot had time recently to post to newmedia, but happy to take it on, just wondering about overlap with educationbridges
19:58:48 dave-on-air: k
19:59:48 DS: Jason, the trifecta
19:59:51 Brad_Hicks: there is a guy here who might be strongly into virtualbridges - he is doing research on these environments
20:00:04 Brad_Hicks: from an education perspective
20:00:16 JasonR: I'm all for that, Brad.
20:00:17 cheryloakes: brb
20:00:30 cheryloakes: keep me on mute
20:00:33 JasonR: Would be interested in more info on his research
20:00:46 Brad_Hicks: I will try and get you a link
20:00:57 DS: lol, I love you guys!
20:01:13 JasonR: Thanks
20:01:21 JasonR: Forced donations!
20:01:31 JasonR: :)
20:01:49 Paul_Ellerman: Lets experiment and see how it goes?
20:02:02 Paul_Ellerman: See how much it brings in...
20:02:11 DS: paypal includes pay by credit card for those without an account, right?
20:02:20 Lee_Ann: I say blanket account
20:02:22 elderbob: I understand the Paypal donations but what is the I Tunes....
20:02:23 Lee_Ann: one account
20:02:40 Lee_Ann: and it breaks up for all the sites
20:03:05 Lee_Ann: yes
20:03:09 Lee_Ann: good!
20:03:18 Lee_Ann: yes!
20:03:18 DS: iTunes is the RSS for podcasts on the iTunes "network" hosted by Apple
20:03:19 JasonR: Yes, how does the iTunes moola work? Like buying a song?
20:03:30 elderbob: and then what if one section does not meet its obligation....
20:04:06 DS: JR--I think so...
20:04:10 elderbob: and whose income tax does that show up on.
20:04:11 Brad_Hicks: Jason, link to Kim Flintoff - http://dramanite.com/
20:04:48 Paul_Ellerman: Percentage by use?
20:04:53 Paul_Ellerman: Funding Meeting?
20:05:05 Lee_Ann: if they have a donation from someone who has a specific idea for where it goes, it could be directed to that site
20:05:14 Lee_Ann: but otherwise a sort of partnership so tos peak
20:05:19 JasonR: Someday edtechtalk shows could compete for funding during webcastathons. Kind of like community radios. Shows that can meet their obligations remain on the network. Seems to work in radio.
20:05:24 elderbob: And is it really a donation or is it income.
20:05:52 elderbob: Back to your tax status, your 503 status needs to be taken care of
20:06:57 Lee_Ann: is that desirable?
20:06:57 Paul_Ellerman: Do we need an accountant to discuss some of this?
20:07:06 Lee_Ann: yes Pul
20:07:29 elderbob: And taxes, considering the scope of your internationalism....needs to be considered.
20:07:43 elderbob: In this country, even tips can be taxed.
20:08:18 elderbob: I would hate to see Jeff get to the end of the year and the powers that be say all these tips add up to ....and you owe us this much money on this...
20:08:30 JasonR: Can those librarians in SL be put to the task of figuring out resources for non-profitage?
20:09:11 cheryloakes: Hi Alice