Seedlings 2009-05-07 Mary Madden

Our conversation with Mary Madden from Pew Internet about data and research

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19:22:34 cheryloakes~seedlings : hello, we are getting ready with audio, not quite ready
19:22:48 sheila : ETTA or ustream?
19:23:07 cheryloakes~seedlings : etta, Shelia, we are so Old School
19:24:00 sheila : Thanks! Not old school! (I think ustream is easier on the mac that's why I like it.)
19:24:48 AnneFraser : how do I get audio
19:24:55 Shane Morin : hello folks
19:25:21 sheila : Audio just came on.
19:25:38 sheila : sounds good.
19:26:03 alicebarr (seedlings) : Thanks sheila
19:26:18 sheila : @AnneFraser - click the icon under EdTechTalk A
19:26:40 cheryloakes~seedlings : hello, how is the sound! This is Mary Madden PEW INTERNET Trust, we will be introduing soon.
19:26:55 sheila : All good1
19:26:57 sheila : !
19:27:50 cheryloakes~seedlings : Getting ready!
19:30:43 Shane Morin : very live
19:31:16 alicebarr (seedlings) : HI all
19:32:31 cheryloakes~seedlings : Welcome Mary, American life project
19:32:50 cheryloakes~seedlings : senior research analyst
19:34:33 Shane Morin : sounds like a pretty awesome job if you ask me
19:34:45 cheryloakes~seedlings : hello all, welcome and glad you are here with us
19:34:51 alicebarr (seedlings) : Welcome Leeanne_HK
19:34:57 alicebarr (seedlings) : Hi kim
19:36:04 Leeanne_HK : morning all from Hong Kong
19:36:18 cheryloakes~seedlings : morning Leeanne glad you are with us!
19:37:11 alicebarr (seedlings) :
19:39:11 alicebarr (seedlings) : Cutting edge! :)
19:40:25 alicebarr (seedlings) : How many of you have used the Pew Report s in your work?
19:40:58 alicebarr (seedlings) : Welcome aforgrave
19:41:57 kcaise : hi alice
19:41:59 alicebarr (seedlings) :
19:42:11 alicebarr (seedlings) : Hi Kim
19:42:57 Leeanne_HK : Interesting about dates - traditionally research 5 years old isn't old -- unless you're in technology!
19:43:06 cheryloakes~seedlings : hi lou, welcome
19:43:27 alicebarr (seedlings) : True Leeanne
19:43:57 cheryloakes~seedlings : absolutely leeanne, certainly this is very new for many educators
19:44:10 alicebarr (seedlings) : How many people have ditched their land line here?
19:44:27 cheryloakes~seedlings : we are thinking about it alice
19:44:29 Shane Morin : 5 years ago most of us probably had never heard of facebook
19:44:37 Shane Morin : it was only 4 years ago it started becoming big
19:44:39 cheryloakes~seedlings : true shane,
19:45:17 alicebarr (seedlings) : @Shane true wonderwhat's next?
19:45:42 Leeanne_HK : many friends in HK only have mobiles - even though landline calls are free and rent for line is cheap
19:46:23 alicebarr (seedlings) : @Leeanne Interesting. Not quite ready to give mine up yet
19:46:29 cheryloakes~seedlings : isn't that interesting Leeanne, do they do more than call, like internet search?
19:47:08 Leeanne_HK : me neither - mainly a cost thing - would like the convenience of only having 1 no to contact me
19:47:30 cheryloakes~seedlings : hello davidcosand
19:47:35 Leeanne_HK : @cheryl - internet access is through different provider - not phone company
19:47:55 davidcosand : Hello cheryloakes
19:47:56 cheryloakes~seedlings : wow, that is interesting about phone just phone
19:49:19 LParisi : Hi David
19:49:29 LParisi : Ready for tomorrow?
19:50:00 davidcosand : Absolutely! We changed the classroom around to get set for our group performance. VERY excited.
19:50:21 LParisi : We are not quite ready to perform well but we will give it a shot.
19:50:42 alicebarr (seedlings) :
19:50:49 cheryloakes~seedlings : thanks alice
19:51:11 davidcosand : Well, what we lack in precision, we will make up for with enthusiasm.
19:51:44 alicebarr (seedlings) : What are you presenting Lisa and David?
19:52:09 LParisi : We skype together over our poetry collaboration, Alice.  
19:52:22 LParisi : Getting ready for poetry reads with parents and practicing on each other.
19:52:24 cheryloakes~seedlings : do you have a twitter name you would like to share? I will follow.
19:52:28 cheryloakes~seedlings : cheryloakes50
19:52:34 alicebarr (seedlings) : Very cool!
19:52:48 alicebarr (seedlings) : alicebarr
19:52:53 LParisi : lparisi - Want to follow me Cheryl? ;)
19:53:00 cheryloakes~seedlings : yes I do Lisa!
19:53:13 alicebarr (seedlings) : Me too Lisa!
19:53:37 LParisi : David, share your twitter name.  These are great people to follow.
19:53:55 LParisi : David is a very enthusiastic fifth grade teacher.
19:54:08 Shane Morin : my twitter name - hurumble
19:54:17 alicebarr (seedlings) : Great David! Well welcome!
19:54:27 Shane Morin : Lisa are we following each other
19:54:34 cheryloakes~seedlings : thanks for sharing Shane, you have a lot to contribute I like reading your updates.
19:54:44 cheryloakes~seedlings : Shane, what did you think of Henry Jenkins?
19:54:50 LParisi : Shane I am not sure.
19:54:52 alicebarr (seedlings) : And follow Shane He is a starting teaching!
19:55:14 Shane Morin : i thought he was incredible. and unlike probably mostly everyone there... i had never heard of him before
19:55:30 cheryloakes~seedlings : I had read him, but he was an excellent speaker
19:55:37 Shane Morin : he really was
19:56:21 davidcosand : Sorry...I walked away for a few minutes. My Twitter name is davidcosand
19:56:51 alicebarr (seedlings) : @shane I was blown away. So many loose ends tied up for me
19:57:08 Shane Morin : have they put his speech online yet?
19:57:17 cheryloakes~seedlings : thanks David, for twitter,
19:57:36 cheryloakes~seedlings : yes Shane, I have asked about that on the ning
19:58:08 LParisi : Alice is low
19:58:19 cheryloakes~seedlings : thanks Lisa
19:58:23 cheryloakes~seedlings : hi Cathy E
19:58:42 sheila : Hi CathyE
19:58:47 LParisi : HI Cathy
19:58:56 Cathy E : hello all
19:58:58 Shane Morin : hi Cathy
19:59:14 sheila : @cheryl and Alice - lots of thunder here that may be coming your way soon.
19:59:43 cheryloakes~seedlings : thanks Shelia, alice had mentioned that, let's hope it is moving less than 30 miles an hour.
20:00:07 Shane Morin : i can definitely see that where i'm student teaching right now... kids don't even have computers at home so it's just unfair to expect any type of work being done online outside of the classroom
20:00:22 Shane Morin : and they just fall furhter behind
20:00:25 alicebarr (seedlings) : Super dark on horizon :( Thanks Sheila
20:00:33 cheryloakes~seedlings : shane do they have cell phones where they could do some online work?
20:01:04 Shane Morin : they have cell phones, i dont know the degree of accessibility they have to the internet with them
20:01:09 cheryloakes~seedlings : Have any of you heard of Techsoup?
20:01:20 Shane Morin : i havent
20:01:23 LParisi : Have to head out.  Will catch the rest on the podcast.  Thanks for the learning.
20:01:40 alicebarr (seedlings) : Bye Lisa
20:01:42 cheryloakes~seedlings : That may be one way they can connect with their cell phone Liz Kolb has much work on that possibility
20:01:48 cheryloakes~seedlings : bye lisa
20:01:49 Cathy E : Some of the families at my school have cancelled Internet access due to current finances
20:02:06 cheryloakes~seedlings : sure CathyE, I think we will see that soon.
20:02:13 alicebarr (seedlings) : Oh Wow Cathy E
20:02:36 Shane Morin : i'm definitely amazed at some of these kids who have iphones but no computer at home
20:03:58 alicebarr (seedlings) : @Shane computer in their pocket
20:04:32 Shane Morin : unfortunately i'm not too familiar with phones
20:04:38 Leeanne_HK : gotta go put daughter on school bus -- back soon
20:04:44 cheryloakes~seedlings : check out Liz Kolb for her ideas
20:04:50 Shane Morin : alright
20:04:56 cheryloakes~seedlings : ok leeanne
20:05:46 Cathy E : Twitter is a life line for my learning
20:06:02 cheryloakes~seedlings :   is Mary's Geek site she is discussion now
20:06:07 cheryloakes~seedlings : discussing
20:06:32 alicebarr (seedlings) : I'm with you Cathy
20:06:45 cheryloakes~seedlings : yes cathye, so true.
20:06:53 Shane Morin : i love that site
20:07:37 cheryloakes~seedlings : shelia, thought you had thunder problems
20:07:51 cheryloakes~seedlings : hello coughingbutnottheflu, welcome
20:07:54 sheila : shook the house . .
20:08:01 sheila : FF crashed though
20:08:02 cheryloakes~seedlings : oh, my, be safe
20:09:25 sheila : What was the techsoup link?
20:10:03 alicebarr (seedlings) :
20:10:28 sheila : Thanks! Downpouring now!!! Wow!
20:10:31 Cathy E : I set up my school facebook page :)
20:10:47 cheryloakes~seedlings : yeah cathye, how many friends?
20:11:02 alicebarr (seedlings) : Uh oh @ SHeila
20:11:18 alicebarr (seedlings) : Poor tulips :(
20:11:28 Cathy E : only 5 - but have not advertised yet
20:11:53 cheryloakes~seedlings : that is similar to what Melanie Holtsman said about her school facebook
20:12:06 alicebarr (seedlings) : Here comes thunder
20:12:24 cheryloakes~seedlings : oh, alice let me know I can grab the stream
20:12:37 alicebarr (seedlings) : Ok for now
20:12:51 coughingbutnottheflu : I agree that people still like to keep their networks separate.
20:13:33 Shane Morin : do people here have their students as friends on facebook?
20:14:01 alicebarr (seedlings) : @Shane People are all over the map on that
20:14:07 Shane Morin : oh my god
20:14:22 Shane Morin : my Uncle Bob just friended me on facebook like a week ago... not even a joke
20:14:38 alicebarr (seedlings) : @Shane FUNNY!
20:15:15 sheila : Ohhh! SEEDlings! I get it!
20:15:24 alicebarr (seedlings) : :)
20:16:23 Shane Morin : i dont think i've joined the seedlings ning yet
20:17:09 sheila : Chat room is always helpful!
20:17:58 alicebarr (seedlings) : @Shane Please do! Http://
20:18:13 alicebarr (seedlings) : seedlings
20:18:13 Shane Morin : way ahead of you! just did!
20:18:17 davidcosand : Alice and Cheryl, I've got to tell you that so much of what I have done in the past 4 years in my classroom as far as integation of technology is a direct result of listening to Bob's Bit By Bit podcast and your work together.
20:18:20 cheryloakes~seedlings : alice you are so fast!
20:18:39 cheryloakes~seedlings : Thanks David, we appreciate hearing that, we will tell Bob.
20:18:57 alicebarr (seedlings) : @david Thanks we really appreicate that!
20:19:03 alicebarr (seedlings) : Not fast now
20:19:19 Leeanne_HK : Agree with you David - finding Seedlings was one of the best things I've done
20:19:31 cheryloakes~seedlings : Thanks for your support!
20:20:21 alicebarr (seedlings) : @Leanne Thank you so much!
20:20:45 Cathy E : Ohh I would love that class
20:20:52 alicebarr (seedlings) : silverinsf
20:21:11 sroseman : fabulous project
20:21:17 alicebarr (seedlings) : How cool More more!
20:21:18 sroseman : I am a foodie
20:21:30 cheryloakes~seedlings : doesn't that sound great
20:21:48 alicebarr (seedlings) : My foodie husband would go nuts
20:21:49 cheryloakes~seedlings : welcome back bauwarter
20:22:33 Leeanne_HK : Where can we find the research to go with this project?
20:23:13 cheryloakes~seedlings : eating san fransisco
20:23:19 alicebarr (seedlings) :
20:23:23 sroseman : ditto Alice.. I am a foodie because my husband is a foodie
20:23:23 cheryloakes~seedlings : thanks alice
20:23:44 sroseman : Chez Panisse!!!
20:24:35 Shane Morin : looking at his blog is making me hungry
20:24:47 alicebarr (seedlings) : Me too
20:24:55 alicebarr (seedlings) : Yea for foodies!
20:25:11 cheryloakes~seedlings : that is what a lot of twitter is about food
20:27:38 cheryloakes~seedlings : Here is Mary's Geek of the Week again,    ours will be coming up,   Bob's Geek of the week is
20:28:19 Shane Morin : wow this hour went by fast
20:28:29 cheryloakes~seedlings : yes shane!!!
20:29:28 alicebarr (seedlings) : Alice: New GTA
20:29:45 cheryloakes~seedlings : here comes Geek of the Week
20:30:11 cheryloakes~seedlings : Furture of the Internet report at PEW
20:30:48 alicebarr (seedlings) :
20:30:53 Leeanne_HK : But when is GTA coming overseas??
20:31:17 alicebarr (seedlings) : World Digital Library
20:31:30 cheryloakes~seedlings :
20:31:36 Cathy E : I think the new GTA is in Colorado
20:31:40 Leeanne_HK : will PEW be looking at the e-readiness of teachers or teachers internet behaviours
20:32:22 alicebarr (seedlings) : @Cathy yes
20:32:48 cheryloakes~seedlings : good question Leeanne, not sure
20:33:09 sroseman : sorry could you post that wordle type site
20:33:16 alicebarr (seedlings) : My geeks are in chat room GTA and World Digital Library
20:33:26 sroseman : and the arcademic one please
20:33:29 cheryloakes~seedlings :    and
20:33:31 sroseman : crashed!!
20:33:41 alicebarr (seedlings) : @sroseman chartle,net
20:33:46 cheryloakes~seedlings :
20:34:10 alicebarr (seedlings) : Links will be in our Delicious
20:34:19 sroseman : got it
20:34:27 Shane Morin : that's something i really wondeer about.. how many of the teachers involved in 1 to 1 settings in Maine are making the most of their fortunate situation
20:34:29 sroseman : Thanks..I must revisit the seedlings
20:34:30 cheryloakes~seedlings : to all in the chat room thanks for being here tonight. This will be a podcast tomorrow and the chat and the links will be available!
20:35:01 cheryloakes~seedlings : Shane I would say about 50% over all.
20:35:08 alicebarr (seedlings) : Thank you all for coming
20:35:37 Shane Morin : 50% is better than i expected, actually
20:36:35 sheila : NECC time!
20:36:52 sheila : That would be very interesting to stop by!
20:37:25 Shane Morin : my mom's birthday too
20:37:26 sroseman : Happy Birthday
20:37:40 alicebarr (seedlings) : Yea!!! Happy bday Mom
20:37:49 Shane Morin : bye all
20:37:50 alicebarr (seedlings) : Bye
20:37:51 sheila : Thanks so much!
20:37:56 Leeanne_HK : bye

Our conversation with Mary Madden from Pew Internet about data and research

2009-04-30 Seedlings with Michael Wesch!

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Seedlings have the best job in the world. We get to collaborate with some of the finest digital thinkers in the world. This week we were able to invite Michael Wesch into our world for an interview. Did you know Michael Wesch has only been a professor for 5 years? Listen in as we ask how he manages to engage and teach 400 students at once. The interview is great, the chat room was rocking so much it is going to take me a couple of reads to get all the great links and reflective conversations that were going on.

2009-04-16- SEEDLINGS Google Fest Show

What a great Google show! If you thought you knew Google, join us and hear about our predictions for the future of Google!

Join Alice and Cheryl as we interview Kern Kelley, Sarah Sutter, all from Maine in our Google Fest Show. Bob is out at his daughters show for the evening. Part way through the show we brought in Melanie Holtsman, from Jacksonville, FL, who was on the show last week. We met Melanie at the NYC GTA 08 meet up.

The chat will be added tomorrow and it is full of amazing links.

As you will hear, the interest generated by a Google discussion is huge. We had fun, we hope you do too.

2009-04-09 Seedlings with Susan Phillips and Melanie Holtsman

Happy Holiday Weekend, Passover and Easter! We kicked off the weekend with our Seedlings show, ON THE ROAD! Susan Phillips and Melanie Holtsman from Chets Creek Elementary School in Jacksonville, FL. Both Susan and Melanie joined us even though they were already on vacation. Talk about dedicated educators.Plus, you never would have known Susan was in a car with her family and two dogs! We enjoyed the show, hope you do to!

Alice, Bob and Cheryl are joined by Susan Phillips, lead adventurer from Chets Creek Elementary School from Jacksonville with her technology integration teacher, Melanie Holtsman. It is our first on the road show, where Susan is traveling and coming to us via cell phone. They have great service in Georgia because we only lost her one time! This show is about how a principal as the instructional/technology leader in the building, can take the whole school community on an educational journey and have her school with 96% of the students who are performing at and above standard.

Seedlings 2009-3-26 with Lucy Gray

Our guest was Lucy Gray who was on the advisory board for the K-12 Horizon Report. The Horizon Report is available at

Geek of the week


 bobsprankle ->   yo!


 tkaminski ->   Hello everyone


 tkaminski ->   Should I hear anything yet?


 bobsprankle ->   hi all


 tkaminski ->   I can hear now!!!!


 LucyGray ->   Hi Everyone


 tkaminski ->   Hello Lucy


 PeggyG ->   Hi all! Looking forward to this conversation!!


 kdumont ->   Hey everybody can't be quiet.


 PeggyG ->   Hearing the audio now :-)


 kdumont ->   Hi Lucy


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Now we will chat away!!!


 tkaminski ->   Hello Wes


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hey Wes Fryer!!!


 Wes Fryer ->   greetings all!


 bobsprankle ->   hey wes!


 tkaminski ->   @wes Been loving your blof posts the last week


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Hi Wes


 PeggyG ->   Hi Wes-great to see you. I've spent a good part of today listening to your last podcasts to get caught up with you :-)


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello Kdumont, LUcy, Peggy, Yeah!!! Wes, witeacher, tkaminiski


 Wes Fryer ->   I've got you all plugged into our living room stereo again. Rachel just said, "Oh, a podcast" (because she recognizes your voices from our car trips) and I told her "No, it's a WEBCAST!"


 PeggyG ->   Hi Cheryl!


 tkaminski ->   Horizon's report is pretty powerful


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   hi jan_smith    Hi Ben M, welcome!!


 Wes Fryer ->   @peggyg well, there has been a bit to catch up on, that's for sure!


 jan_smith ->   Hi Cheryl, glad to make it in the door!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Oh, I will give her a shout out.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hi Rachel.


 jackiegerstein ->   Hey Peggy


 PeggyG ->   definitely!! I was glad to get caught up on your life!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello Jackiegerstein


 PeggyG ->   Hi Jackie!


 jackiegerstein ->   Hi Cheryl


 bobsprankle ->   hi all!


 Wes Fryer ->   rachel says hi!


 PeggyG ->   Hi to Rachel!! :-) Brilliant child!!!


 bobsprankle ->   hi rachel!


 tkaminski ->   Horizon's report gives us lots of ammunition when we advocate for different technologies


 jackiegerstein ->   Set up a new stream just for the kids - they can meet in the other "room"


 bobsprankle ->   hey margaret!!


 Wes Fryer ->   Trivia question: There are 2 technologies that are DIFFERENT in the K-12 Horizon Report, compared to the "regular" Horizon report. What are they?


 bobsprankle ->   hi james


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->  Here is Lucy's website.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   OH, Wes, good question peopleare scrambling to find their other report.


 Wes Fryer ->   I actually don't know the answer but want to. I heard Alan Levine and others give the preso at COSN.


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Oh Yikes Wes...


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   welcome tonithesisen


 Wes Fryer -> here is Lucy's homepage


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks Wes, for LUcy's


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello dmdanker, welcome, hello to Janene


 Janene ->   Hi all


 Margaret ->   I finally figure  out how to write a message. Thank you for the welcome.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello Shelia, the horizon report K-12 is here.


 sheila ->   Thanks and hi!


 jackiegerstein ->   Semantic web and Geo Everyting


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Yeah Margaret, now there is no stopping you!


 Margaret ->   This is a bit different from other chat rooms I have been in, hence the slowness of my reponse.


 jackiegerstein ->


 Wes Fryer ->


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Yes, Wes!!


 Wes Fryer ->   oops i got that link twice


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Thanks Wes


 Wes Fryer ->   hi dawn! :-)


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello James, sometimes when I click a link I get bumped out, welcome back.


 James_01 ->   Thanks, I clicked the Windows Media Player stream and that loaded over top of this page.


 LucyGray ->


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hi Kim Caise, and Omni


 Omni ->   Howdy


 PeggyG ->   I got bumped too--and wasn't clicking on any links. Luckily the audio kept going in itunes :-)


 Wes Fryer ->   these are the delicious tags for the 2009 horizon report -


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Peggy, gremlins are active.


 jan_smith ->


 bobsprankle ->   thanks, wes!


 PeggyG -> Report can be downloaded here


 Wes Fryer ->   it's amazing the horizon report folks track 100-200 technologies and reduce them to 12 and then 6. what a task!


 Wes Fryer ->   hey, some Texans believe in salt!


 PeggyG ->   it really is incredible and such a valuable resource for tech advocacy!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Wes, that is a major skill for 21st century learners, synthesize and summarize.


 Wes Fryer ->   goodness, Lucy, that is a scary tale :-(


 Wes Fryer ->   @cheryloakes50 indeed!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   The list is on the back of the Horizon Report, with all the participants.


 PeggyG ->   what an amazing story Lucy!! once again the power of social networking and PLNs!


 tkaminski ->   Lucy, amazing use of Facebook


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Terry, my son facebooked me after an earthquake in Costa Rica that he was oky, I was glad for that.


 jan_smith ->   is it like grafitti while you speak?


 Wes Fryer ->   I just participated in my first meeting with a graphic facilitator yesterday! It was very cool. (and effective)


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Oh, this sounds like a new skill!


 bobsprankle ->   wow... what a coincidence, wes!


 tkaminski ->   @cheryloakes Why did your son chose Facebook instead of twitter?


 Wes Fryer -> that's a flickr pic of one of the graphic facilitator's murals from yesterday


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   He didn't have a phone that worked in Costa Rica, he doesn't use twitter yet he does use facebook.


 bobsprankle ->   v. cool, wes


 jan_smith ->   It was done at NorthernVoice, a major blogging conference in Vancouver to the Keynote


 jackiegerstein ->


 tkaminski ->   @cheryloakes Interesting.  I use twitter on my computer far more than Facebook


 Wes Fryer ->   society of graphic facilitators - awesome


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   tkaminski, I facebook my college kids.


 jackiegerstein ->   I've seen it done for keynotes - it is amazing - it is like getting visuals for those of us who auditory processing challenged


 Omni ->   I miss the days of using subetha edit at confrence for collective notes


 tkaminski ->   @Wes Your graphic facilitator looks like they were awesome!!!  Could they use a tech tool to do the same thing?  Then it could be sent to everyone ASAP


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   @jackiegerstein, what a great tool for classrooms.


 Wes Fryer ->   so how much discussion did you have during and before your voting time, Lucy?


 Wes Fryer ->   @Omni I loved SubEthaEdit, but didn't like that it wasn't cross-platform.


 PeggyG ->   were there any surprizes for you Lucy?


 jackiegerstein ->   Didn't you use the World Cafe, too?


 Wes Fryer ->   our graphic facilitator yesterday claimed there are only about 15 people in the US who know how and can do graphic facilitation


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   hello leahlubelle, welcome


 PeggyG ->   could you do a similar kind of brainstorming chart on


 sheila ->   We did something like that yesterday in class talking about acid rain in class. Used the SmartBoard to print it out.


 Wes Fryer ->   ooo - thanks for the link to @peggyg!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Wes, what a great job for some kids and adults.


 tkaminski ->   @shiela our smartboard use is a good one.


 PeggyG -> is an amazing collaborative brainstorming tool


 Wes Fryer ->   graphic facilitating not only requires great visual communication / arts skills, but also great sythesis and evaluation...


 James_01 ->   I think I've listened for 10 or 15 minutes and I still don't have any idea what this is about


 PeggyG ->   discussing the Horizon Report for K-12


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   James, this is a show explaining how the K-12 horizon report came to be. YOu can see the report here


 alicebarr (seedling) ->


 James_01 ->   ... Thanks.


 jan_smith ->   When I look at the list of trends, I think my district is back in at least 5 years. Where to start?


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello Melinda, welcome


 PeggyG ->   did you use Wordle to help you identify the trends?? :-)


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 Lucy Gray is giving background, she was on the advisory board for the K-12 Horizon Report this year


 Wes Fryer ->   lost the stream...


 Omni ->   same here


 jan_smith ->   sound gone


 sheila ->   Think we were just muted?


 leahlubelle ->   I think that happens when the phone rings


 Wes Fryer ->   the gremlins must have just struck


 tkaminski ->   @jay_smith  I am at the same place you are


 Wes Fryer ->   they'll be back...


 PeggyG ->   Did Alice get a phone call? think that affects her streaming


 sheila ->   Oh right Peggy!


 bobsprankle ->   yes... is the audio ok?


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Oh, Alice had a phone call, we have the audio for the podcast, sorry.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Is the audio back.


 PeggyG ->   hope Lucy waits for the stream to come back :-) don't want to miss anything


 Wes Fryer ->   phone call interruptions remind me of dial up modem connections... remember when you had to put a special character string on your modem connection script so it would disable call waiting?! Ah, the old days...


 leahlubelle ->   I do not hear anything


 jan_smith ->   Well, I am getting nice blues from my i


 jan_smith ->   Tunes...


 jackiegerstein ->   Can you send them this way Jan?


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Okay, we will restart


 jan_smith ->   I can hum a few bars...


 tkaminski ->   Have time to check NCAA scores


 Wes Fryer ->   our meat loaf just finished, anyone want some.... :-)


 PeggyG ->   that's funny Jan! that happened to me once and I didn't realize the stream had dropped and moved on to my next song in itunes! It was Christmas music :-)


 LucyGray ->   Let me see if there are any questions I can answer via text


 jan_smith ->   Robert Johnson, Kind Hearted Woman Blues


 Wes Fryer ->   Lucy what was the most surprising thing you learned or encountered (besides your ice story) in serving on the Horizon Board?


 tkaminski ->   Lucy, was there much arguing about what technologies to put in each category?


 jan_smith ->   @Lucy, many of the trends seem light years away from my vantage point--any thoughts on affecting change?


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Okay, gang, we will restart


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Folks let me restart and e'll be right back


 bobsprankle ->   hang on folks...alice will restart the stream


 baldfury ->   :? :? :?


 LucyGray ->   Great questions


 LucyGray ->   Hmmm..


 LucyGray ->   There's a way for you all to participate...


 LucyGray ->   let me get the link


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Lucy, this is a great question from Wes, what did you lear serving on the Horizon board?


 jackiegerstein ->   We can all meet in Seocnd life :D


 bobsprankle ->   woot!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Oh, good plan Jackie!


 jan_smith ->   I can run into walls and you can all have a good laugh at my hair


 sheila ->   Speaking of Woot - It's awoot-off today!


 tkaminski ->   I have not played in Second Life yet


 LucyGray ->


 PeggyG ->   what's a woot-off?


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   @jan_smith, you can laugh when I sit on the table instead of the chair


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   hello karen Jan


 LucyGray ->   Hi Karen Jan!


 KarenJan ->   Hi, Cheryl


 sheila ->   Refresh if you haven't already . . .  sounds back.


 KarenJan ->   Hi, Lucy!!!!


 Wes Fryer ->   yeah, you're back!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->    Welcome gary we have no audio just yet, we are restartnig the stream.


 PeggyG ->   yeah!!


 gary ->   Thanks


 James_01 ->   At least I had time to read the full NMC report


 jackiegerstein ->  Great SL confernece this weekend!


 PeggyG ->   oh rats! phone rang again!


 sheila ->   @PeggyG - sells electronic type things many during the day.


 Wes Fryer ->   yes, i'm hearing you again via iTunes and did not have to restart my stream


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   VEry funny James, I am glad you put the time to good use.


 jackiegerstein ->   LOL James


 James_01 ->   Oh... it wasn't a joke, I hadn't read it yet


 jan_smith ->   @cheryl I sat on somebodies lap at the Edublogs Awards.  :p *)


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   organized meetings are a treat


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   lol


 kcaise ->   i think lucy got dropped


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Oh, are you hearing Lucy in about 10 seconds? she is talking now


 Wes Fryer ->   i'm still hearing Lucy


 bobsprankle ->   sound ok?


 sheila ->   @jan_smith I can totally relate to sl life.


 PeggyG ->   yes hearing all


 sheila ->   yes


 kcaise ->   she didn't, i was wrong


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks for the sound check


 Wes Fryer ->   modified delphi process - excellent, hadn't heard of this


 kcaise ->   i heard the skype sound when a call is dropped


 James_01 ->   None of the report's content is surprising and none of it adds much to the debate


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   hello Lorna!


 jan_smith ->   @sheila, there is something very 21 century about being both physically and virtually emabarassed.


 PeggyG ->   It sounds like a very efficient way to do that!


 lorna ->   Hi Cherly  and all


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->    I actually gave it to all my admin and we highlighted it at a workshop today.


 sheila ->   lol


 Wes Fryer ->   Rachel says "I think your dog is barking!"


 James_01 ->   I'm sorry, Cheryl, but that isn't proof of the report's value


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Rachel, the dogs come in every show!


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Tell RAchel that is Lilly


 PeggyG ->   that's the big question--how can we take this information and leverage it! so glad you mentioned this!


 KarenJan ->   sounds like a very large dog!


 Wes Fryer ->   yes, we all need to step up our advocacy and lobbying efforts


 kcaise ->   i am so glad my dog isn't the only one that wants to talk on streaming shows


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   James, this report for some of us gives the road map and validates what we are doing when someone questions cloud computing


 jackiegerstein ->   Kinda like preaching to the choir - eh?


 PeggyG ->   I think Lilly agrees with Lucy!


 Wes Fryer ->   yes that is right bob


 sheila ->   Just typing this in an email for my principal!


 tkaminski ->   @jackiegerstien I totally agree


 James_01 ->   It does validate what many of you are doing


 KarenJan ->   our school has Will Richardson coming to speak in two weeks.  I recommended that we invite parents and students


 Wes Fryer ->   @james_01 it validates many of the trends we hear about, in terms of others seeing them as very relevant / important...


 James_01 ->   Fortunately or unfortunately depending on perspective


 PeggyG ->   I like the emphasis on value of real life experiences-many teachers think that means it has to be face to face but can be greatly enriched with technology


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   oh, great Karen!


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   @KarenJan Great idea


 KarenJan ->   we'll see what happens, i'm on the school board and suggested it at our meeting Monday night


 tkaminski ->   @KarenJan  Definitely invite parents.  When parents start demanding things change seems to happen faster


 jan_smith ->   @james what's your perspective?


 KarenJan ->   we talk about the need to include parents in understanding the paradigm shift


 lorna ->   @KarenJan - where are you located?


 Wes Fryer ->   yes, Google is blocked in some Oklahoma and Texas schools I've been in today. Amazing.


 jan_smith ->   @KarenJan We still need to include many teachers in the paradigm shift--


 PeggyG ->   Will CoSN be doing a live webinar on the K12 report? It would be great to have an archived version to share with admins, teachers and boards!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Google blocked seems foreign


 jan_smith ->   Many have hands on ears and eyes closed.


 Wes Fryer ->   I see 5 primary reasons why schools and school leaders are blocking web 2.0 sites: bandwidth, CIPA, FERPA, control issues, liability concerns. Are there other broad reasons I'm missing?


 KarenJan ->   @jan - I have to say, there's been some amazing things happening in my district


 James_01 ->   Jan, it would be impolite to hijack this party, so maybe some other time


 PeggyG ->   Karen Henke did a great CoSN webinar a couple of months ago but it was before this report came out


 tkaminski ->   @Wes Google is blocked!!!!Why?


 leeanne ->   I wonder if the identification of filtering as a critical challenge will mean changes start taking place?


 jan_smith ->   @Wes laziness.


 PeggyG ->   @Wes FEAR!


 James_01 ->   Wes, don't forget the possibility that there might be more effective ways to educate


 Wes Fryer ->   @tkaminski LIke Lucy is saying, some districts block google to try and keep out the bad stuff


 James_01 ->   Or at least that the administrators think there are more effective ways


 Wes Fryer ->   @PeggyG yes, fear definitely IS a big reason that needs to be on that list


 jan_smith ->   @james, this is a venue for dialogue, no?


 tkaminski ->   @Wes We need to educate the students on appropriate use.


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 do you mean other, non-digital ways to educate?


 Wes Fryer ->   @tkaminski yes, I totally agree


 James_01 ->   Wes, I mean online and offline, yes


 PeggyG -> Karen's earlier presentation on Long Tail Learner: How Technology Transforms Learning


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 good point. That is why I think a focus on blended learning is most appropriate, rather than just being on a "digital learning" bandwagon. There are lots of great analog ways to learn too.


 Wes Fryer ->   I love that, "Long Tail Learner"


 James_01 ->   Jan, it is in theory. Not in practice. Right now we have a leader telling us that the main reason a certain technology isn't adopted is because the opponents are clearly ignorant and afraid


 PeggyG ->   Yes Wes. It was an outstanding presentation!


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Tag hzk09


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 who is the leader you're referring to?


 James_01 ->   You, Wes - I was summarizing what you just said


 Wes Fryer ->   ah


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello Jeff


 James_01 ->   You're talking about how deathly afraid school administrators are as if it isn't even possible that there is a legitimate argument that there is a better use of time or resources


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello james sigler!


 James Sigler ->   Hi everybody


 WickedDecentJeff ->   Hey Cheryl, can't stay long but I'm here for a few


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   glad you are here


 Wes Fryer ->   I think there is more than ignorance and fear at play. I agree with Virginia Postrel's thesis in her 1989 book, "The Future and Its Enemies." Generally we see "statists" and "dynamists" when it comes to change. Many people in our communities are conservative statists that resist many changes because they don't want their cheese moved.


 James Sigler ->   Been listening to stream and finally got chat to work  :)


 James_01 ->   I didn't realize I was at a business or motivational seminar


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Hey WickedDecent!


 PeggyG ->   @James-you are correct that technology isn't the best way for everything but it provides some important options


 James_01 ->   I could have stayed at home and read Executive Book Summaries


 WickedDecentJeff ->   Hey Alice!


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 ?


 jan_smith ->   Trolls?


 James_01 ->   Peggy, it does provide some important options and we need to talk about those when they come up. We just need to be fair to all sides instead of dismissing them


 bobsprankle ->


 James_01 ->   I think that most people who aren't convinced by web 2.0 tools just want what is best for their classrooms or districts and they aren't convinced yet


 PeggyG ->   @James-that would be an important thing to contribute to the conversation on the wiki that Lucy mentioned for the K12 Horizon Report


 James_01 ->   I don't like to see them painted as being stupid or afraid of change when most of the time they are just trying to do their jobs well


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 you might be right


 James_01 ->   I think it is rude and wrongheaded


 James_01 ->   The real problem being that it is wrongheaded because it doesn't address the problem in the first place


 PeggyG ->   schools can no longer afford software based applications and have to look to open source options


 tkaminski ->   @James_01 Maybe web 2.0 can help those poeple do their job even better


 jackiegerstein ->   or tricle up - that's my issue


 gary ->   Not all parts of the world have the same fear:


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 being ignorant about a new technology or potential is very different from "being stupid"


 leeanne ->   In the cloud can still be single-sign on and link several packages... moodle & google apps


 James Sigler ->   It's not just about the web 2.0 tools.  It must be about the pedagogy behind it.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks leeanne for that comment


 Wes Fryer ->   What took you to Singapore, Lucy?


 Wes Fryer ->   Was that an ADE trip?


 James_01 ->   tkaminski, it is possible and I like to figure out whether a new tool is valuable. So we weigh the merits and decide. We don't assume people are afraid and so selfish that they don't want any change


 leeanne ->   Tim Holt talks about how we "sell" technology


 LucyGray ->   Yes, I helped run the institute for the new class of ADEs


 tkaminski ->   @James_01


 tkaminski ->   I agree


 LucyGray ->   It was just me going over there, Wes


 James_01 ->   tkaminski, I agree with you too. :)


 Wes Fryer ->   @LucyGray very cool! It is often so eye opening to get international perspectives on these issues


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   welcome Maureen, we are in the middle of the Horizon k-12 report with Lucy Gray.


 leeanne ->   when we live overseas we need to use these tools to connect to our main learning base.


 James_01 ->   Oh, I'm hearing more on fear


 tkaminski ->   However, in my experience, lots of people say they are doing a really good job and do not explore how tech might help them do their job better


 WickedDecentJeff ->   There is a fear of so many things in education...fear of getting sued, fear of the tech not working, fear of not being supported by administration...


 James_01 ->   tkaminski, that is an issue of job performance and professional development. Those teachers aren't as effective as they could be and their PD/admin leaders should develop that with them.


 Maureen ->   Hi Cheryl- sorry so late, got caught up in what I was doing... have to listen to the podcast to catch up later


 James Sigler ->   Why did Singapore buy in and many of our decision makers do not?


 jackiegerstein ->   Another report this week Technology COunts 2009


 James_01 ->   I had no idea how terrified I was of everything


 WickedDecentJeff ->   If you try to push for change, those are the excuses/barriers you come up against


 PeggyG ->   Disrupting Class is a very thought-provoking, powerful book for me.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   hello cha424, welcome, we are near the end of our conversation about the Horizon K-12 project /report


 leeanne ->   Singapore has a great vision for their learning (trying to find link)


 jackiegerstein ->   There are NO workforce environments without tech - it has to be used in the school


 tkaminski ->   I hope we follow the vision of "Disrupting CLass"


 James_01 ->   Jan, we can talk about your "trolls" message after the session if you'd like.


 baldfury ->   who wrote disrupting class?


 leahlubelle ->   hey bob, what is that diabetes app called?


 bobsprankle ->   Clayton Christensen


 PeggyG ->   Michael Horn


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   clay christenson, michael horne and


 leeanne ->   Link for Singapore education plan


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks leeanne


 jackiegerstein ->


 cha424 ->   just got homew from work


 jan_smith ->   James, I am interested in your ideas. I am just uncomfortable with the tone.


 James_01 ->   Here is the link to Clayton Christianson's site:


 Maureen ->   Still reading Disrupting Class, and in the middle of The Element...too many good books and ideas to explore.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Maureen and Jackiegerstein, there is a ning group at SEEDLINGS to discuss Disrupting Class


 PeggyG ->   also Curtis Johnson


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 what is your twitter or blog address? I'd like to read more of your views on these issues, particularly as they apply to helping overcome obstacles


 James_01 ->   I'm sorry that I caused discomfort, maybe we can talk frankly another time - goodbye.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks Peggy.


 leeanne ->   K-12 report helps to complete the circle for use of tech in education. Makes it a tool for learning and links things together for me


 Maureen ->   Thx Cheryl... I'll check it out


 tkaminski ->   I like being called a geek!!!


 PeggyG ->


 baldfury ->   get your geek on!


 WickedDecentJeff ->   iTunes store was blocked in my district until this year


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Peggy, thanks for helping out with the background!!!


 PeggyG ->   any time! just happened to have that open in my tabs :-)


 WickedDecentJeff ->   Only after my administrator tried to show iTunes U and realized it was blocked....


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Jeff, t hat is amazing, so they couldn't listen to Wicked Decent Learning.


 WickedDecentJeff ->   I know, hard to believe huh?


 WickedDecentJeff ->   Try teaching a class on podcasting, without a podcatcher


 tkaminski ->   I have sent the Horizon report to my superintendent to get him thimking about where our district needs to head with technology


 PeggyG ->   Wes did a recent podcast on helping admins and IT directors understand the value of different tools and the importance of talking together and not just making assumptions


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   To our listeners, the podcast and chat will be available at and by tomorrow.


 leeanne ->   Thanks for Prof Dev idea - we have 2 days coming up for PD and this would make a great starter for staff!


 PeggyG ->   I hope CoSN will do a webinar on this!


 tkaminski ->   I hope some one gets Horizon report on Obama's radar


 cha424 ->   where can i read the horizon report?


 PeggyG ->   I thought Obama's edtech guru was a very young guy :-)


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   @leeanne Small groups around different parts


 James Sigler ->   They don't even have an ed guru for DOE :P


 jackiegerstein ->


 PeggyG ->   advisor I think


 tkaminski ->   I think ALice, Bob and Cheryl should be Ed tech advisors for Obama


 WickedDecentJeff ->   I second that


 PeggyG ->


 Wes Fryer ->   Lucy, did the Horizon board folks have suggestions for advocacy


 James Sigler ->   They have my vote


 bobsprankle ->   LOL


 LucyGray ->


 jackiegerstein ->   Conversation with Eric Schmidt - it was great!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks terry, that would be fun


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->


 Wes Fryer ->   this has been a fast hour!


 baldfury ->   I thought I saw a grade k-2 youtube on twitter earlier this wk?


 alicebarr (seedling) ->


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   this is a quick thursday hour


 Maureen ->   When I saw that in your tweet earlier I was hoping it would be a good replacement for teachertube...not just another venue like academic earth. But it's good anyway.


 LucyGray ->   Did you see the participate link, Wes?


 LucyGray ->


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Thanks for joining us tonight, thanks to Lucy


 gary ->   Good luck with the vote in Texas tomorrow - let us hope science and reason prevail.


 tkaminski ->   Another great Thursday night!!!


 Wes Fryer ->   @LucyGray thanks for that link. I will check it out.


 jackiegerstein ->   Thanks - interesting session!


 cha424 ->   thanks for info 


 LucyGray ->   Good idea!


 leeanne ->   great way to start my Friday morning at the Ed training centre!


 bobsprankle ->   thanks to all!!!!


 Wes Fryer ->   Sarah says, "Adios, amigos!"


 tkaminski ->   Adios Sarah


 jackiegerstein ->   Tell Sarah adigos amiga


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   bye to all,


 jan_smith ->   Thanks for those links, all, and for the ideas Lucy.


 Wes Fryer ->   thanks everyone :-)


 jackiegerstein ->   AN SL applause to you all


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Thanks to all!!!


 baldfury ->   thanks


 James Sigler ->   I had a parent very upset that his third grader was chatting


 PeggyG ->   Thank you everyone!! Especially Lucy!! Lots of things to think about!


 leahlubelle ->   oh no the phone!


 Maureen ->   Thank you!


 bobsprankle ->   thanks all!


 James Sigler ->   good


 James Sigler ->   show


 WickedDecentJeff ->   Thanks guys/gals


 tkaminski ->   See you all next week!!!


 leeanne ->   Bye all


 PeggyG ->   bye all!


 sheila ->   Thanks all!


 James Sigler ->   just enough time to check our links before ETBS


 bobsprankle ->   wes, so happy you're coming to ACTEM!

Our guest was Lucy Gray who was on the advisory board for the K-12 Horizon Report. The Horizon Report is available at

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