Seedlings 2009-3-26 with Lucy Gray

Our guest was Lucy Gray who was on the advisory board for the K-12 Horizon Report. The Horizon Report is available at

Geek of the week


 bobsprankle ->   yo!


 tkaminski ->   Hello everyone


 tkaminski ->   Should I hear anything yet?


 bobsprankle ->   hi all


 tkaminski ->   I can hear now!!!!


 LucyGray ->   Hi Everyone


 tkaminski ->   Hello Lucy


 PeggyG ->   Hi all! Looking forward to this conversation!!


 kdumont ->   Hey everybody can't be quiet.


 PeggyG ->   Hearing the audio now :-)


 kdumont ->   Hi Lucy


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Now we will chat away!!!


 tkaminski ->   Hello Wes


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hey Wes Fryer!!!


 Wes Fryer ->   greetings all!


 bobsprankle ->   hey wes!


 tkaminski ->   @wes Been loving your blof posts the last week


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Hi Wes


 PeggyG ->   Hi Wes-great to see you. I've spent a good part of today listening to your last podcasts to get caught up with you :-)


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello Kdumont, LUcy, Peggy, Yeah!!! Wes, witeacher, tkaminiski


 Wes Fryer ->   I've got you all plugged into our living room stereo again. Rachel just said, "Oh, a podcast" (because she recognizes your voices from our car trips) and I told her "No, it's a WEBCAST!"


 PeggyG ->   Hi Cheryl!


 tkaminski ->   Horizon's report is pretty powerful


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   hi jan_smith    Hi Ben M, welcome!!


 Wes Fryer ->   @peggyg well, there has been a bit to catch up on, that's for sure!


 jan_smith ->   Hi Cheryl, glad to make it in the door!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Oh, I will give her a shout out.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hi Rachel.


 jackiegerstein ->   Hey Peggy


 PeggyG ->   definitely!! I was glad to get caught up on your life!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello Jackiegerstein


 PeggyG ->   Hi Jackie!


 jackiegerstein ->   Hi Cheryl


 bobsprankle ->   hi all!


 Wes Fryer ->   rachel says hi!


 PeggyG ->   Hi to Rachel!! :-) Brilliant child!!!


 bobsprankle ->   hi rachel!


 tkaminski ->   Horizon's report gives us lots of ammunition when we advocate for different technologies


 jackiegerstein ->   Set up a new stream just for the kids - they can meet in the other "room"


 bobsprankle ->   hey margaret!!


 Wes Fryer ->   Trivia question: There are 2 technologies that are DIFFERENT in the K-12 Horizon Report, compared to the "regular" Horizon report. What are they?


 bobsprankle ->   hi james


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->  Here is Lucy's website.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   OH, Wes, good question peopleare scrambling to find their other report.


 Wes Fryer ->   I actually don't know the answer but want to. I heard Alan Levine and others give the preso at COSN.


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Oh Yikes Wes...


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   welcome tonithesisen


 Wes Fryer -> here is Lucy's homepage


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks Wes, for LUcy's


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello dmdanker, welcome, hello to Janene


 Janene ->   Hi all


 Margaret ->   I finally figure  out how to write a message. Thank you for the welcome.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello Shelia, the horizon report K-12 is here.


 sheila ->   Thanks and hi!


 jackiegerstein ->   Semantic web and Geo Everyting


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Yeah Margaret, now there is no stopping you!


 Margaret ->   This is a bit different from other chat rooms I have been in, hence the slowness of my reponse.


 jackiegerstein ->


 Wes Fryer ->


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Yes, Wes!!


 Wes Fryer ->   oops i got that link twice


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Thanks Wes


 Wes Fryer ->   hi dawn! :-)


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello James, sometimes when I click a link I get bumped out, welcome back.


 James_01 ->   Thanks, I clicked the Windows Media Player stream and that loaded over top of this page.


 LucyGray ->


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hi Kim Caise, and Omni


 Omni ->   Howdy


 PeggyG ->   I got bumped too--and wasn't clicking on any links. Luckily the audio kept going in itunes :-)


 Wes Fryer ->   these are the delicious tags for the 2009 horizon report -


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Peggy, gremlins are active.


 jan_smith ->


 bobsprankle ->   thanks, wes!


 PeggyG -> Report can be downloaded here


 Wes Fryer ->   it's amazing the horizon report folks track 100-200 technologies and reduce them to 12 and then 6. what a task!


 Wes Fryer ->   hey, some Texans believe in salt!


 PeggyG ->   it really is incredible and such a valuable resource for tech advocacy!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Wes, that is a major skill for 21st century learners, synthesize and summarize.


 Wes Fryer ->   goodness, Lucy, that is a scary tale :-(


 Wes Fryer ->   @cheryloakes50 indeed!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   The list is on the back of the Horizon Report, with all the participants.


 PeggyG ->   what an amazing story Lucy!! once again the power of social networking and PLNs!


 tkaminski ->   Lucy, amazing use of Facebook


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Terry, my son facebooked me after an earthquake in Costa Rica that he was oky, I was glad for that.


 jan_smith ->   is it like grafitti while you speak?


 Wes Fryer ->   I just participated in my first meeting with a graphic facilitator yesterday! It was very cool. (and effective)


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Oh, this sounds like a new skill!


 bobsprankle ->   wow... what a coincidence, wes!


 tkaminski ->   @cheryloakes Why did your son chose Facebook instead of twitter?


 Wes Fryer -> that's a flickr pic of one of the graphic facilitator's murals from yesterday


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   He didn't have a phone that worked in Costa Rica, he doesn't use twitter yet he does use facebook.


 bobsprankle ->   v. cool, wes


 jan_smith ->   It was done at NorthernVoice, a major blogging conference in Vancouver to the Keynote


 jackiegerstein ->


 tkaminski ->   @cheryloakes Interesting.  I use twitter on my computer far more than Facebook


 Wes Fryer ->   society of graphic facilitators - awesome


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   tkaminski, I facebook my college kids.


 jackiegerstein ->   I've seen it done for keynotes - it is amazing - it is like getting visuals for those of us who auditory processing challenged


 Omni ->   I miss the days of using subetha edit at confrence for collective notes


 tkaminski ->   @Wes Your graphic facilitator looks like they were awesome!!!  Could they use a tech tool to do the same thing?  Then it could be sent to everyone ASAP


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   @jackiegerstein, what a great tool for classrooms.


 Wes Fryer ->   so how much discussion did you have during and before your voting time, Lucy?


 Wes Fryer ->   @Omni I loved SubEthaEdit, but didn't like that it wasn't cross-platform.


 PeggyG ->   were there any surprizes for you Lucy?


 jackiegerstein ->   Didn't you use the World Cafe, too?


 Wes Fryer ->   our graphic facilitator yesterday claimed there are only about 15 people in the US who know how and can do graphic facilitation


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   hello leahlubelle, welcome


 PeggyG ->   could you do a similar kind of brainstorming chart on


 sheila ->   We did something like that yesterday in class talking about acid rain in class. Used the SmartBoard to print it out.


 Wes Fryer ->   ooo - thanks for the link to @peggyg!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Wes, what a great job for some kids and adults.


 tkaminski ->   @shiela our smartboard use is a good one.


 PeggyG -> is an amazing collaborative brainstorming tool


 Wes Fryer ->   graphic facilitating not only requires great visual communication / arts skills, but also great sythesis and evaluation...


 James_01 ->   I think I've listened for 10 or 15 minutes and I still don't have any idea what this is about


 PeggyG ->   discussing the Horizon Report for K-12


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   James, this is a show explaining how the K-12 horizon report came to be. YOu can see the report here


 alicebarr (seedling) ->


 James_01 ->   ... Thanks.


 jan_smith ->   When I look at the list of trends, I think my district is back in at least 5 years. Where to start?


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello Melinda, welcome


 PeggyG ->   did you use Wordle to help you identify the trends?? :-)


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 Lucy Gray is giving background, she was on the advisory board for the K-12 Horizon Report this year


 Wes Fryer ->   lost the stream...


 Omni ->   same here


 jan_smith ->   sound gone


 sheila ->   Think we were just muted?


 leahlubelle ->   I think that happens when the phone rings


 Wes Fryer ->   the gremlins must have just struck


 tkaminski ->   @jay_smith  I am at the same place you are


 Wes Fryer ->   they'll be back...


 PeggyG ->   Did Alice get a phone call? think that affects her streaming


 sheila ->   Oh right Peggy!


 bobsprankle ->   yes... is the audio ok?


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Oh, Alice had a phone call, we have the audio for the podcast, sorry.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Is the audio back.


 PeggyG ->   hope Lucy waits for the stream to come back :-) don't want to miss anything


 Wes Fryer ->   phone call interruptions remind me of dial up modem connections... remember when you had to put a special character string on your modem connection script so it would disable call waiting?! Ah, the old days...


 leahlubelle ->   I do not hear anything


 jan_smith ->   Well, I am getting nice blues from my i


 jan_smith ->   Tunes...


 jackiegerstein ->   Can you send them this way Jan?


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Okay, we will restart


 jan_smith ->   I can hum a few bars...


 tkaminski ->   Have time to check NCAA scores


 Wes Fryer ->   our meat loaf just finished, anyone want some.... :-)


 PeggyG ->   that's funny Jan! that happened to me once and I didn't realize the stream had dropped and moved on to my next song in itunes! It was Christmas music :-)


 LucyGray ->   Let me see if there are any questions I can answer via text


 jan_smith ->   Robert Johnson, Kind Hearted Woman Blues


 Wes Fryer ->   Lucy what was the most surprising thing you learned or encountered (besides your ice story) in serving on the Horizon Board?


 tkaminski ->   Lucy, was there much arguing about what technologies to put in each category?


 jan_smith ->   @Lucy, many of the trends seem light years away from my vantage point--any thoughts on affecting change?


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Okay, gang, we will restart


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Folks let me restart and e'll be right back


 bobsprankle ->   hang on folks...alice will restart the stream


 baldfury ->   :? :? :?


 LucyGray ->   Great questions


 LucyGray ->   Hmmm..


 LucyGray ->   There's a way for you all to participate...


 LucyGray ->   let me get the link


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Lucy, this is a great question from Wes, what did you lear serving on the Horizon board?


 jackiegerstein ->   We can all meet in Seocnd life :D


 bobsprankle ->   woot!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Oh, good plan Jackie!


 jan_smith ->   I can run into walls and you can all have a good laugh at my hair


 sheila ->   Speaking of Woot - It's awoot-off today!


 tkaminski ->   I have not played in Second Life yet


 LucyGray ->


 PeggyG ->   what's a woot-off?


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   @jan_smith, you can laugh when I sit on the table instead of the chair


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   hello karen Jan


 LucyGray ->   Hi Karen Jan!


 KarenJan ->   Hi, Cheryl


 sheila ->   Refresh if you haven't already . . .  sounds back.


 KarenJan ->   Hi, Lucy!!!!


 Wes Fryer ->   yeah, you're back!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->    Welcome gary we have no audio just yet, we are restartnig the stream.


 PeggyG ->   yeah!!


 gary ->   Thanks


 James_01 ->   At least I had time to read the full NMC report


 jackiegerstein ->  Great SL confernece this weekend!


 PeggyG ->   oh rats! phone rang again!


 sheila ->   @PeggyG - sells electronic type things many during the day.


 Wes Fryer ->   yes, i'm hearing you again via iTunes and did not have to restart my stream


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   VEry funny James, I am glad you put the time to good use.


 jackiegerstein ->   LOL James


 James_01 ->   Oh... it wasn't a joke, I hadn't read it yet


 jan_smith ->   @cheryl I sat on somebodies lap at the Edublogs Awards.  :p *)


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   organized meetings are a treat


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   lol


 kcaise ->   i think lucy got dropped


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Oh, are you hearing Lucy in about 10 seconds? she is talking now


 Wes Fryer ->   i'm still hearing Lucy


 bobsprankle ->   sound ok?


 sheila ->   @jan_smith I can totally relate to sl life.


 PeggyG ->   yes hearing all


 sheila ->   yes


 kcaise ->   she didn't, i was wrong


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks for the sound check


 Wes Fryer ->   modified delphi process - excellent, hadn't heard of this


 kcaise ->   i heard the skype sound when a call is dropped


 James_01 ->   None of the report's content is surprising and none of it adds much to the debate


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   hello Lorna!


 jan_smith ->   @sheila, there is something very 21 century about being both physically and virtually emabarassed.


 PeggyG ->   It sounds like a very efficient way to do that!


 lorna ->   Hi Cherly  and all


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->    I actually gave it to all my admin and we highlighted it at a workshop today.


 sheila ->   lol


 Wes Fryer ->   Rachel says "I think your dog is barking!"


 James_01 ->   I'm sorry, Cheryl, but that isn't proof of the report's value


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Rachel, the dogs come in every show!


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Tell RAchel that is Lilly


 PeggyG ->   that's the big question--how can we take this information and leverage it! so glad you mentioned this!


 KarenJan ->   sounds like a very large dog!


 Wes Fryer ->   yes, we all need to step up our advocacy and lobbying efforts


 kcaise ->   i am so glad my dog isn't the only one that wants to talk on streaming shows


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   James, this report for some of us gives the road map and validates what we are doing when someone questions cloud computing


 jackiegerstein ->   Kinda like preaching to the choir - eh?


 PeggyG ->   I think Lilly agrees with Lucy!


 Wes Fryer ->   yes that is right bob


 sheila ->   Just typing this in an email for my principal!


 tkaminski ->   @jackiegerstien I totally agree


 James_01 ->   It does validate what many of you are doing


 KarenJan ->   our school has Will Richardson coming to speak in two weeks.  I recommended that we invite parents and students


 Wes Fryer ->   @james_01 it validates many of the trends we hear about, in terms of others seeing them as very relevant / important...


 James_01 ->   Fortunately or unfortunately depending on perspective


 PeggyG ->   I like the emphasis on value of real life experiences-many teachers think that means it has to be face to face but can be greatly enriched with technology


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   oh, great Karen!


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   @KarenJan Great idea


 KarenJan ->   we'll see what happens, i'm on the school board and suggested it at our meeting Monday night


 tkaminski ->   @KarenJan  Definitely invite parents.  When parents start demanding things change seems to happen faster


 jan_smith ->   @james what's your perspective?


 KarenJan ->   we talk about the need to include parents in understanding the paradigm shift


 lorna ->   @KarenJan - where are you located?


 Wes Fryer ->   yes, Google is blocked in some Oklahoma and Texas schools I've been in today. Amazing.


 jan_smith ->   @KarenJan We still need to include many teachers in the paradigm shift--


 PeggyG ->   Will CoSN be doing a live webinar on the K12 report? It would be great to have an archived version to share with admins, teachers and boards!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Google blocked seems foreign


 jan_smith ->   Many have hands on ears and eyes closed.


 Wes Fryer ->   I see 5 primary reasons why schools and school leaders are blocking web 2.0 sites: bandwidth, CIPA, FERPA, control issues, liability concerns. Are there other broad reasons I'm missing?


 KarenJan ->   @jan - I have to say, there's been some amazing things happening in my district


 James_01 ->   Jan, it would be impolite to hijack this party, so maybe some other time


 PeggyG ->   Karen Henke did a great CoSN webinar a couple of months ago but it was before this report came out


 tkaminski ->   @Wes Google is blocked!!!!Why?


 leeanne ->   I wonder if the identification of filtering as a critical challenge will mean changes start taking place?


 jan_smith ->   @Wes laziness.


 PeggyG ->   @Wes FEAR!


 James_01 ->   Wes, don't forget the possibility that there might be more effective ways to educate


 Wes Fryer ->   @tkaminski LIke Lucy is saying, some districts block google to try and keep out the bad stuff


 James_01 ->   Or at least that the administrators think there are more effective ways


 Wes Fryer ->   @PeggyG yes, fear definitely IS a big reason that needs to be on that list


 jan_smith ->   @james, this is a venue for dialogue, no?


 tkaminski ->   @Wes We need to educate the students on appropriate use.


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 do you mean other, non-digital ways to educate?


 Wes Fryer ->   @tkaminski yes, I totally agree


 James_01 ->   Wes, I mean online and offline, yes


 PeggyG -> Karen's earlier presentation on Long Tail Learner: How Technology Transforms Learning


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 good point. That is why I think a focus on blended learning is most appropriate, rather than just being on a "digital learning" bandwagon. There are lots of great analog ways to learn too.


 Wes Fryer ->   I love that, "Long Tail Learner"


 James_01 ->   Jan, it is in theory. Not in practice. Right now we have a leader telling us that the main reason a certain technology isn't adopted is because the opponents are clearly ignorant and afraid


 PeggyG ->   Yes Wes. It was an outstanding presentation!


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Tag hzk09


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 who is the leader you're referring to?


 James_01 ->   You, Wes - I was summarizing what you just said


 Wes Fryer ->   ah


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello Jeff


 James_01 ->   You're talking about how deathly afraid school administrators are as if it isn't even possible that there is a legitimate argument that there is a better use of time or resources


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Hello james sigler!


 James Sigler ->   Hi everybody


 WickedDecentJeff ->   Hey Cheryl, can't stay long but I'm here for a few


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   glad you are here


 Wes Fryer ->   I think there is more than ignorance and fear at play. I agree with Virginia Postrel's thesis in her 1989 book, "The Future and Its Enemies." Generally we see "statists" and "dynamists" when it comes to change. Many people in our communities are conservative statists that resist many changes because they don't want their cheese moved.


 James Sigler ->   Been listening to stream and finally got chat to work  :)


 James_01 ->   I didn't realize I was at a business or motivational seminar


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   Hey WickedDecent!


 PeggyG ->   @James-you are correct that technology isn't the best way for everything but it provides some important options


 James_01 ->   I could have stayed at home and read Executive Book Summaries


 WickedDecentJeff ->   Hey Alice!


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 ?


 jan_smith ->   Trolls?


 James_01 ->   Peggy, it does provide some important options and we need to talk about those when they come up. We just need to be fair to all sides instead of dismissing them


 bobsprankle ->


 James_01 ->   I think that most people who aren't convinced by web 2.0 tools just want what is best for their classrooms or districts and they aren't convinced yet


 PeggyG ->   @James-that would be an important thing to contribute to the conversation on the wiki that Lucy mentioned for the K12 Horizon Report


 James_01 ->   I don't like to see them painted as being stupid or afraid of change when most of the time they are just trying to do their jobs well


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 you might be right


 James_01 ->   I think it is rude and wrongheaded


 James_01 ->   The real problem being that it is wrongheaded because it doesn't address the problem in the first place


 PeggyG ->   schools can no longer afford software based applications and have to look to open source options


 tkaminski ->   @James_01 Maybe web 2.0 can help those poeple do their job even better


 jackiegerstein ->   or tricle up - that's my issue


 gary ->   Not all parts of the world have the same fear:


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 being ignorant about a new technology or potential is very different from "being stupid"


 leeanne ->   In the cloud can still be single-sign on and link several packages... moodle & google apps


 James Sigler ->   It's not just about the web 2.0 tools.  It must be about the pedagogy behind it.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks leeanne for that comment


 Wes Fryer ->   What took you to Singapore, Lucy?


 Wes Fryer ->   Was that an ADE trip?


 James_01 ->   tkaminski, it is possible and I like to figure out whether a new tool is valuable. So we weigh the merits and decide. We don't assume people are afraid and so selfish that they don't want any change


 leeanne ->   Tim Holt talks about how we "sell" technology


 LucyGray ->   Yes, I helped run the institute for the new class of ADEs


 tkaminski ->   @James_01


 tkaminski ->   I agree


 LucyGray ->   It was just me going over there, Wes


 James_01 ->   tkaminski, I agree with you too. :)


 Wes Fryer ->   @LucyGray very cool! It is often so eye opening to get international perspectives on these issues


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   welcome Maureen, we are in the middle of the Horizon k-12 report with Lucy Gray.


 leeanne ->   when we live overseas we need to use these tools to connect to our main learning base.


 James_01 ->   Oh, I'm hearing more on fear


 tkaminski ->   However, in my experience, lots of people say they are doing a really good job and do not explore how tech might help them do their job better


 WickedDecentJeff ->   There is a fear of so many things in education...fear of getting sued, fear of the tech not working, fear of not being supported by administration...


 James_01 ->   tkaminski, that is an issue of job performance and professional development. Those teachers aren't as effective as they could be and their PD/admin leaders should develop that with them.


 Maureen ->   Hi Cheryl- sorry so late, got caught up in what I was doing... have to listen to the podcast to catch up later


 James Sigler ->   Why did Singapore buy in and many of our decision makers do not?


 jackiegerstein ->   Another report this week Technology COunts 2009


 James_01 ->   I had no idea how terrified I was of everything


 WickedDecentJeff ->   If you try to push for change, those are the excuses/barriers you come up against


 PeggyG ->   Disrupting Class is a very thought-provoking, powerful book for me.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   hello cha424, welcome, we are near the end of our conversation about the Horizon K-12 project /report


 leeanne ->   Singapore has a great vision for their learning (trying to find link)


 jackiegerstein ->   There are NO workforce environments without tech - it has to be used in the school


 tkaminski ->   I hope we follow the vision of "Disrupting CLass"


 James_01 ->   Jan, we can talk about your "trolls" message after the session if you'd like.


 baldfury ->   who wrote disrupting class?


 leahlubelle ->   hey bob, what is that diabetes app called?


 bobsprankle ->   Clayton Christensen


 PeggyG ->   Michael Horn


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   clay christenson, michael horne and


 leeanne ->   Link for Singapore education plan


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks leeanne


 jackiegerstein ->


 cha424 ->   just got homew from work


 jan_smith ->   James, I am interested in your ideas. I am just uncomfortable with the tone.


 James_01 ->   Here is the link to Clayton Christianson's site:


 Maureen ->   Still reading Disrupting Class, and in the middle of The Element...too many good books and ideas to explore.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Maureen and Jackiegerstein, there is a ning group at SEEDLINGS to discuss Disrupting Class


 PeggyG ->   also Curtis Johnson


 Wes Fryer ->   @James_01 what is your twitter or blog address? I'd like to read more of your views on these issues, particularly as they apply to helping overcome obstacles


 James_01 ->   I'm sorry that I caused discomfort, maybe we can talk frankly another time - goodbye.


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks Peggy.


 leeanne ->   K-12 report helps to complete the circle for use of tech in education. Makes it a tool for learning and links things together for me


 Maureen ->   Thx Cheryl... I'll check it out


 tkaminski ->   I like being called a geek!!!


 PeggyG ->


 baldfury ->   get your geek on!


 WickedDecentJeff ->   iTunes store was blocked in my district until this year


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Peggy, thanks for helping out with the background!!!


 PeggyG ->   any time! just happened to have that open in my tabs :-)


 WickedDecentJeff ->   Only after my administrator tried to show iTunes U and realized it was blocked....


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Jeff, t hat is amazing, so they couldn't listen to Wicked Decent Learning.


 WickedDecentJeff ->   I know, hard to believe huh?


 WickedDecentJeff ->   Try teaching a class on podcasting, without a podcatcher


 tkaminski ->   I have sent the Horizon report to my superintendent to get him thimking about where our district needs to head with technology


 PeggyG ->   Wes did a recent podcast on helping admins and IT directors understand the value of different tools and the importance of talking together and not just making assumptions


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   To our listeners, the podcast and chat will be available at and by tomorrow.


 leeanne ->   Thanks for Prof Dev idea - we have 2 days coming up for PD and this would make a great starter for staff!


 PeggyG ->   I hope CoSN will do a webinar on this!


 tkaminski ->   I hope some one gets Horizon report on Obama's radar


 cha424 ->   where can i read the horizon report?


 PeggyG ->   I thought Obama's edtech guru was a very young guy :-)


 alicebarr (seedling) ->   @leeanne Small groups around different parts


 James Sigler ->   They don't even have an ed guru for DOE :P


 jackiegerstein ->


 PeggyG ->   advisor I think


 tkaminski ->   I think ALice, Bob and Cheryl should be Ed tech advisors for Obama


 WickedDecentJeff ->   I second that


 PeggyG ->


 Wes Fryer ->   Lucy, did the Horizon board folks have suggestions for advocacy


 James Sigler ->   They have my vote


 bobsprankle ->   LOL


 LucyGray ->


 jackiegerstein ->   Conversation with Eric Schmidt - it was great!


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   thanks terry, that would be fun


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->


 Wes Fryer ->   this has been a fast hour!


 baldfury ->   I thought I saw a grade k-2 youtube on twitter earlier this wk?


 alicebarr (seedling) ->


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   this is a quick thursday hour


 Maureen ->   When I saw that in your tweet earlier I was hoping it would be a good replacement for teachertube...not just another venue like academic earth. But it's good anyway.


 LucyGray ->   Did you see the participate link, Wes?


 LucyGray ->


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Thanks for joining us tonight, thanks to Lucy


 gary ->   Good luck with the vote in Texas tomorrow - let us hope science and reason prevail.


 tkaminski ->   Another great Thursday night!!!


 Wes Fryer ->   @LucyGray thanks for that link. I will check it out.


 jackiegerstein ->   Thanks - interesting session!


 cha424 ->   thanks for info 


 LucyGray ->   Good idea!


 leeanne ->   great way to start my Friday morning at the Ed training centre!


 bobsprankle ->   thanks to all!!!!


 Wes Fryer ->   Sarah says, "Adios, amigos!"


 tkaminski ->   Adios Sarah


 jackiegerstein ->   Tell Sarah adigos amiga


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   bye to all,


 jan_smith ->   Thanks for those links, all, and for the ideas Lucy.


 Wes Fryer ->   thanks everyone :-)


 jackiegerstein ->   AN SL applause to you all


 cheryloakes50~seedlings ->   Thanks to all!!!


 baldfury ->   thanks


 James Sigler ->   I had a parent very upset that his third grader was chatting


 PeggyG ->   Thank you everyone!! Especially Lucy!! Lots of things to think about!


 leahlubelle ->   oh no the phone!


 Maureen ->   Thank you!


 bobsprankle ->   thanks all!


 James Sigler ->   good


 James Sigler ->   show


 WickedDecentJeff ->   Thanks guys/gals


 tkaminski ->   See you all next week!!!


 leeanne ->   Bye all


 PeggyG ->   bye all!


 sheila ->   Thanks all!


 James Sigler ->   just enough time to check our links before ETBS


 bobsprankle ->   wes, so happy you're coming to ACTEM!

Our guest was Lucy Gray who was on the advisory board for the K-12 Horizon Report. The Horizon Report is available at

Geek of the week


SEEDLings 2009-03-12 Andrew Sutherland

Andrew Sutherland, author and owner of joins us for the show. Andrew is a freshman at MIT and had some great things to share.


Geek of the week links

cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Hello lisette, just getting things set up. Hello Terry!
lisette ->   Just started to follow on twitter, thought I'd check it out
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Evening Dave, when can I go red?
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Great, we begin at 7:30, this is our time to check sound, and gather our guests. NO SOUND yet.
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Hello Shelia, evening.
sheila ->   Hi Cheryl! Had a meeting today. Looks like 7th grade will get netbooks for all students!
sheila ->   Special grant from the community.
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   YEAH Shelia, kudos to you, you have worked hard for this.
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Nice, now the work to find the one you like and the stuff to go on it.
sheila ->   Your name was dropped a few times by the principal and school board member. :)
sheila ->   Right!
tkaminski ->   Heello everyone!!!
tkaminski ->   Does anyone have audio yet??
sheila ->   no
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Hello, to all, no audio yet, another 5 min. I will ask for a sound check.
tkaminski ->   Are most people from MAine excited about announcement htis week of laptops for Gr.7-12
lisette ->   jealous and happy for the educators in maine
sheila ->   I forwarded the article to my admin today . . . I'm in NH and I'm happy!
sheila ->   I'm hoping proximity counts
tkaminski ->   I wish our politicians in Alberta would spend some of our Oil revenues on 1 to 1
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Well, speaking for me, I am so excited about the vision finally coming through, but in my school we won't see funding for this like it was for the 7th and 8th grade, so it would have to be locally funded at 180,000 per year for 4 years for macbooks, wireless, support and professional development. Not sure that will pass the straight face test in these times.
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Hello bmcnaboe, welcome to the show.
lisette ->   Well, it's headed in the right direction.
tkaminski ->   @ cheryloakes I hear you cheryl
bmcnaboe ->   hi thanks!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   SOUnd check is good.
tkaminski ->   Hello Bob
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   hello andrew and kmferrari
andrew ->   Hello
KMFerrari ->   hi there
bobsprankle ->   hi all!
tkaminski ->   I can't stay for the whole show.  I am at a conference in Calgary and the evening keynote begins soon
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Well, we are glad yo u made it Terry.
TimLevesque ->   hello fellow tech nerds!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Hi TimLevesque
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   Hi everyone!
tkaminski ->   I do not have audio.  Could be the wireless connection I have
tkaminski ->   Hello Alice
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   HI Terry
TimLevesque ->   who is the honored guest this evening?
TimLevesque ->   nm just saw bob's twitter :)
tkaminski ->   Had an interesting panel discussion at the conference I am at.  Twitter #adeta09 to follow the twitter back chat from today
bobsprankle ->   any one hear us?
tkaminski ->   No
bobsprankle ->   @tim Andrew Sutherland
TimLevesque ->   not hearing anything
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   thanks, we have a little glitch
TimLevesque ->   that's okay, ill go checkout
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   CAn you hear us now?
tkaminski ->   @alice no sound yet
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   you should hear in 30 seconds
TimLevesque ->   eek my buffer is looping
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   shelia sound check please?
PeggyG ->   hearing the stream now :-) Hi everyone!
sheila ->   ok
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   thanks PeggyG
TimLevesque ->   there..all better
sheila ->   good sound
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   okay,
sheila ->   Had to switch computers . . .
tkaminski ->   I can hear
lisette ->   no tme
TimLevesque ->   I can't wait to hear about quizlet
PeggyG ->   funny! This is going to be a great show!!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   We are so excited to have so  many great folks with us.
tkaminski ->   WE love the show every week
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Thanks Terry
lisette ->   can't hear
PeggyG ->   March Madness!! where has this month gone?
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   For the first time the average age on this show has dropped significantly yahoo.
PeggyG ->   how do you know that Cheryl?? think you forgot to average me in
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Lisette, go to the edtechtalk page, Live participation and click on a speaker. you should hear through itunes or real player
sheila ->   Lisette - click on one of the icons under Edtech talk A
tkaminski ->   Hello Ben!!!!  I think I met you in Sept. when I visited your school
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Oh, sorry, I meant with our young people they brought our average down,!!!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Hi listttecasey, and zn120
lisettecasey ->   thanks
bobsprankle ->   lol, cheryl
sheila ->   @Lisette - can you hear?
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Hi Jackiegerstein.
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   thanks for helping Shelia
lisettecasey ->   yes, all is well here
jackiegerstein ->   Hi, Cheryl
sheila ->   :)  (I'm not multi-tasking!)
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   You can choose a color in the painters pallette on the bottom left of the chat.
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   Hi Jackie! Glad to see you here!
jackiegerstein ->   My 5th grade gifted students LOVE quizlet
jackiegerstein ->   Hi Alice - happy to be here
PeggyG ->   Hi Jackie--your students do awesome things with Quizlet--love the way they ivolve the whole class in the quizzes
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Isn't Andrew brilliant??? We are so glad he is hear to explain this.
jackiegerstein ->   Hi, Peggy - my students love that a high school student developed quizlet
PeggyG ->   Absolutely!! so impressed with Andrew!
tkaminski ->   I need to share quizlet with my teachers AND students
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Jackie doesn't it give them promise that they can do this!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   evening csitterley
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   @Terry our students use it ALOT
bobsprankle ->   amazing...
csitterley ->   Hi everyone
PeggyG ->   what a testimonial!!
jackiegerstein ->   Cheryl - my students believe they can do almost anything with tech : ) high tech esteeem.
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   400,000 users in Quizlet! That is amazing. 100,000 flash cards a day, Andrew what a great service.
tkaminski ->   Thanks for creating this Andrew
TimLevesque ->   And all of the flashcards created by the users are available to other users ?
jackiegerstein ->   And on Facebook!
TimLevesque -> that's sweet
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   @Tim yes
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   yes, how can we foster this!
PeggyG ->   can you believe so many people are using flashcards? must be working!!
KMFerrari ->   i'm a high school student and an english intern, and i started using quizlet myself and loved it, so then i shared it with my mentor teacher, and the other students love it.
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   @bmcnaboe can you answer @Tim's question?
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   KmFerrairi, that is perfect, a personal network!
tkaminski ->   On facebook!!!!     That is awesome
KMFerrari ->   yeah, it's wonderful. now other teachers at my school are starting to use it too.
sheila ->   912 online now!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   KmFerrari, you made it go viral!
tkaminski ->   I wish I was a student today
PeggyG ->   iPhone app? now I'm really intrigued!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Ben, can you tell us whether all flashcards have to be public?
andrew ->   they are public by default
bmcnaboe ->   @Tim I'm sorry, what was the question?
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   thanks andrew.
andrew ->   but users can make them private
TimLevesque ->   it's okay, it has been answered :)
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Hello sundene, evening.
csitterley ->   I have shared this with teachers in my district-I need to follow up and see how many are using it-
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   hello phawkenson, good evening.
phawkenson ->   Hello.
PeggyG ->   that was really interesting--we often forget that there is a lot of sacrifice on the part of developers--beyond financial! what a commitment!
tkaminski ->   Quizlet is definitely a good virus
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   hello Meep, good evening, we are interviewing Andrew Sutherland, creator of Quizlet and student at MIT.
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   hello Thursday, this is Quizlet.
tkaminski ->   Great Pay it forward.  HS students creating for their lower grade students
jackiegerstein ->   Is he making any money off of his venture
PeggyG ->   I love the idea that learners use it because it helps them and not because it's "required"
TimLevesque ->   I'm amazed by how easy it is to find cards others have made
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   jackie we will get your question to him
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   hello leahlubelle, we are discussing quizlet.
KMFerrari ->   i just realized that i'm going to be using quizlet later tonight to study for a quiz i have tomorrow!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Now you will have a connection to the creator.
thursday ->   Hi  Cheryl
KMFerrari ->   space race is addicting...
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   that is what we want,addicted to learning
PeggyG ->   I loved seeing the way Jackie's students participated in quizzes created by students and debated the right answers--lots of learning going on!
phawkenson ->   Is there a visual that I am missing, or is this just chat and audio?
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   chat and audio, but people are checking out
PeggyG ->   just chat and audio phawkenson
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Hello ernie, welcome
PeggyG ->   Hi Ernie-welcome
phawkenson ->   TKS.  Saves me going nuts looking!*)
PeggyG ->   I know what you mean phawkenson--I never want to miss out on anything!
KMFerrari ->   if anyone's interested, this is how my english department is currently using quizlet:
sheila ->   @KMFerrari - Thanks for sharing!
PeggyG ->   it's a true web 2.0 tool! love it!! works great for whole class participation with a smartboard or a project
tkaminski ->   Excellent use of a smartboard
sheila ->   ohhh, smartboard!
jackiegerstein ->   teltale question lol
PeggyG ->   it works if you have a projector even if you don't have a smartboard but the smartboard allows for more interaction
thursday ->   we always need images!!!
PeggyG ->   Andrew is such an inspiration!!
phawkenson ->   Yes, I NEED images. esp. with my ELL students
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Isn't he awesome.
lisettecasey ->   I like the smartboard idea
sheila ->   Too busy studying to read chat!  :)
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   The show will be a podcast tomorrow complete with the chat!
PeggyG ->   is there a way that Quizlet ansers can be fed back to teachers?
tkaminski ->   Awesome question ALice!!!!
jackiegerstein ->    It is a great question!
jackiegerstein ->   Insightful of Andrew
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   I got chills listening to his answers. Great job Andrew!
bmcnaboe ->   one of my quizlet sets (greek vocab for english)
thursday ->   yeahfir UDL!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Ben, thanks for sharing your quizlets that you are using. There are public and we can use them.
csitterley ->   Very sensitive answer from Andrew-understanding the benefits he had that others might not have
PeggyG ->   It is great to see the examples!
jackiegerstein ->   He also need to understand the backstory  - that my students were impressed that a 15 year old invented this - as powerful to them as the tool itself.
lisettecasey ->   how old is Andrew now?
TimLevesque ->   Sorry..not conversating because im having too much fun playing with this..
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Okay, Tim, spread the word.
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   @lisettecasey Freshamn in college
csitterley ->   I may have missed this, but did Andrew create any of Quizlet at school?
tkaminski ->   See you all.  Have to get to my conference
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   Bye terry
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Thanks for stopping by Terry, bye
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   52,000 16 year olds!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   See Peggy, this does bring our average age down.
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   @csittterly I think he did most on his own
phawkenson ->   Heading to another PD session.  Thanks so much.  I WILL be working with Quizlet and sharing that with my team.  Kudos.
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   bye phawkenson,
PeggyG ->   wow! amazing stats!
PeggyG ->   can he tell us more about quizlet on the iPhone?
PeggyG ->   what a fantastic tribute that a textbook publisher posted their quizzese on his site!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Mainstream going digital.
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   mainstream going social network
thursday ->   Just made a quick quizlet for my freshman daughter using her latin vocab...showed her and got a "whooa!"  and "That's so cool, Mom!"  Just for your information, Andrew, I rarely hear this from her.
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Thursday, that is a testimonial
thursday ->   I also learned Latin for 1 - 10 in the process!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   does anyone want to share a quizlet for our delicious links?
KMFerrari ->
bmcnaboe ->   here is a set that I made for my AP Euro class
PeggyG ->   he needs a category for people who aren't in school but are lofe-long learners :-)
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Thanks KM, I added yours first!
thursday ->   good for the ipod touch...I like it even more!
KMFerrari ->   sure thing. several english teachers in my dept. use it
lisettecasey ->   @thursday - great use/reason for allowing iPods in class - quizlet
TimLevesque ->   any chance I can get it for blackberry? I just sold my ipod touch :P
TimLevesque ->   i know i know..blasphemous right?
thursday ->   when is the app be available??
PeggyG ->   I would definitely purchase that app for my iPhone!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   ben what was that quizlet, ap? timeline
csitterley ->   I have some Learning Support teachers writing a grant for ipod touch for classes-Quizlet app needs to be added to that grant
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   what a great idea csitterley
bmcnaboe ->   @cheryloakes it was a timeline we had to memorize for my AP history class
bmcnaboe ->   quizlet saved my life on that one
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   oky, i will add that in the notes
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   thanks Ben M.
andrew ->   connection lost!
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   Yup BRB
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   yes, just lost it, okay, alice, let me know if you need help
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   coming back at you, hang tight chat room,
jackiegerstein ->   This is a great story - needs to be in Time magazine
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   I agree Jackie, what a great idea
thursday ->   That's me calling
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Any questions from the chat room? for andrew
lisettecasey ->   still here
csitterley ->   Alice-you mean the  dogs don't bark at the phone?
TimLevesque ->   herro?
TimLevesque ->   *taps the screen*
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   we are back!!
PeggyG ->   are there awards for young entreprenaurs that we could nominate Andrew for?
jackiegerstein ->   How can Andrew get his success story on Ellen or the nightly new or some new media?
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Good questions,
PeggyG ->   Maybe TED could do a talk about him??
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Oh, Peggy, that would be great.
csitterley ->   Paying it forward and building a way for others to do the same
bmcnaboe ->   TED talk SUCH a good idea
jackiegerstein ->   Andrew - your story is actually a great inspiration to other kids.
bobsprankle ->   I agree jackie!
jackiegerstein ->   Quizlet was lofty too
thursday ->   Ok...Quizlet will get me back to writing something on my blog.
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   thanks thursday, and anyone else who blogs about Quizlet!
PeggyG ->   He could promote it as a parent/grandparent tool! We're always looking for ways to help our grandkids!
thursday ->   I am definitely sharing this at my next special education meeting with teachers.
bobsprankle ->
csitterley ->   We will be adding it to the parent resources on our school websites
thursday ->   will also share it with parents at my schooL
leahlubelle ->   can you download a diploma :-p
bmcnaboe ->
PeggyG ->   I'm going to tell all of my grandparent friends! There is also a Diigo group and twitter group for grandparents--I want to check to see if they've heard of it
csitterley ->   Our gifted education teachers have been using MIT resources with their students using ipods
bobsprankle ->
PeggyG ->   loved that comment from Ben!
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->
cheryloakes~seedlings ->
PeggyG ->   does getboard have a limit on how many people you can email it too?
thursday ->   thanks, Ben
thursday ->   I missed the old is Andrew?
andrew ->   19 now
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Andrew is a freshman in college
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   MIT
bmcnaboe ->   @peggyg not sure....i've done up to 10 people
bobsprankle ->
PeggyG ->   I wonder if you can send getboard out to a listserv? seems like a fantastic tool for getting feedback!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   This will be a podcast tomorrow and the chat and links will all be available! @ and
alicebarr (Seedlings) ->   All of our links are posted here
jackiegerstein ->   LOL - cool - ning seemed scattered - I am going to check it out
PeggyG ->   so many great links!!
jackiegerstein ->   Packing a lot is a good thing!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Thanks for joining us this evening!
csitterley ->   Another great show guys-glad I was able to get here a little earlier
PeggyG ->   What a terrific conversation with Andrew! I'm very inspired!!
jackiegerstein ->   I wish this was second life so I could aplause for him!
sheila ->   Great resource  sharing on a great show! Thanks!
csitterley ->   Thanks Andrew for your work and your example
KMFerrari ->   Awesome show!
lloydcrew ->   A well spent evening...thank you all
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   thanks all, and stop by next week for Teachers Talking!
PeggyG ->   Thank you all!
sheila ->   Thanks!
jackiegerstein ->   Thanks for the great converstions and information!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Nite all!
cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Andrew thanks a bunch and Ben M.
leahlubelle ->   I can't wait to see him on Oprah!
bobsprankle ->   thanks all!
TimLevesque ->   Awesome..I'm going to go to my teachers with this. Thanks for sharing and thanks for the info..great app Andrew
TimLevesque ->   Another good show guys..even though I heard a nono word
PeggyG ->   You bet we will stay tuned for the new developments!
TimLevesque ->   :D
bobsprankle ->   goodnight all


Andrew Sutherland, author and owner of joins us for the show. Andrew is a freshman at MIT and had some great things to share.


Geek of the week links

cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Hello lisette, just getting things set up. Hello Terry!


lisette ->   Just started to follow on twitter, thought I'd check it out


cheryloakes~seedlings ->   Evening Dave, when can I go red?


Seedlings Show #54 with Michael Horn

What an incredible show the SEEDLINGS had with Michael Horn! We talked about how we will change the business of schools. Michael had a great story about milkshakes, that intrigued all of us. It made me think about looking at schools from the student perspective and answering the question, "what is the job of the student?" Stop by and join us.

The show is a great show with a beginning conversation about Disrupting Class, by Clayton M. Christensen, Michael B. Horn and Curtis W. Johnson, published by McGraw Hill. We say beginning conversation since we will continue the conversation at our SEEDLINGS ning, so come on over and join in the post show conversation.

Seedlings-2009-02-26 with Kevin Jarrett

 Alice and Cheryl had a great discussion with Kevin Jarrett from Northfield, NJ. Kevin shared many great ideas about his positions as technology integrator at a K-4 elementary school. He also shared his observations about working in Second Life. The chat contains many great resources too. Thanks for joining in the conversation.

 Join Alice, Cheryl and our guest Kevin Jarrett for this great show. We learn about Kevin, talk about Second Life and Virtual worlds for our elementary students, and share many great resources.

Here is the Delicious: Geek of the Week


You will love the chat! 


 19:23:52  Kevin Jarrett  yay

 19:23:58  Kevin Jarrett  this must be the right place

 19:24:13  cheryloakes~Seedlings  you got it.

 19:26:27  cheryloakes~Seedlings  sound check

2009-2-19 SEEDlings NIng Conversation

Thanks to our chat room and guests Ernie Easter and Janice Stearns, we got some great ideas to take the Seedlings Ning to it's next level. Come see what's going on!

Thanks to our chat room and guests Ernie Easter and Janice Stearns, we got some great ideas to take the Seedlings Ning to it's next level. Come see what's going on! During the first fifteen minutes there are some technical difficulties.

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