COOLCast#1 - September 14, 2011

Post-Show description: 
COOLCast#1 
Collaborative Open Online Learning
Sept. 14, 2011
Participants: Lisa M LaneVance StevensKate RobbinsSanford Arbogast, Jeff Lebow



Next Scheduled COOLCast - Sept. 21 1400GMT global times

  • Lisa M Lane  Good morning (or whatever)
  • Kate Robbins  Hi sll:)
  • ASTM Student Members  Hi guys, I don't have a web cam but I'm listening in
  • ASTM Student Members  I only have earphones :)
  • Kate Robbins  She broke up - didn't hear the question
  • Kate Robbins  but I friended in google circle - shall I go there to join ?
  • pgeorge  Hi all-just eavesdropping on your wonderful event! Saw it on the ETT calendar. Great to see you all
  • mrsdurff  oh working on video - must close this - bye!
  • Kate Robbins  I just signed and friended about 30 minutes
  • Kate Robbins  I have Jeff up on my google page
  • Kate Robbins  yes
  • Kate Robbins  maybe under Trudy
  • Kate Robbins  yes;)
  • Kate Robbins  part of the evomlit
  • pgeorge  Vance, let me know if you ever need help publishing your Elluminate/Blackboard Collaborate events. I have a Publish license.
  • pgeorge  hearing everyone great :-)
  • pgeorge  go Mac!!
  • ASTM Student Members  I LUV Screencast-o-matic
  • pgeorge  that streaming banner across the bottom covers about half of your faces :-(
  • pgeorge  MOOC Cast superstar--Lisa Lane :-) Nice title!
  • ASTM Student Members  The audio is great, but the video is choppy
  • Lisa M Lane  I think the audio depends on your connection and the connections of the individuals on cam
  • ASTM Student Members  I hear a little echo but this is wonderful considering!
  • pgeorge  both audio and video are coming through great for me but I have a direct ethernet connection with great bandwidth
  • pgeorge  wow! one talk/interview with Dan PInk about all 4 of his books!!
  • pgeorge  http://www.edtechcrew.net/2011/08/24/ed-tech-crew-171/
  • pgeorge  thanks for tweeting that link Vance
  • pgeorge  it's really interesting to watch Jeff's face change with each of the words he was using to describe the course--frowns with the control words and smiles/big eyes with the open terms :-)
  • gsiemens  those are the best courses, Lisa :)
  • pgeorge  HI George :-)
  • Lisa M Lane  http://pedagogyfirst.org/wppf
  • pgeorge  thanks! always feel like I'm missing something when there are 2 chat rooms (I am...)
  • Vance  ok, found it, Hi Peggy
  • pgeorge  HI Vance :-)
  • pgeorge  @Vance-did you see my earlier message about Elluminate Publish?
  • ASTM Student Members  Is this BuddyPress?
  • ASTM Student Members  WPTavern is a great forum for BuddyPress
  • pgeorge  I really like the title and sub-title for your site! :-)
  • Vance  can anyone reach this blog post or is it truly down http://joedale.typepad.com/integrating_ict_into_the_/2011/03/easy-classr...
  • pgeorge  I had no problem reaching that post Vance
  • Vance  I'll use my vpn then
  • pgeorge  Easy classroom blogging with Posterous??
  • pgeorge  came through fine
  • Kate Robbins  no problem with that link, Vance, but it did freeze my screen
  • Kate Robbins  This sounds like Vance's strucutre except Mentors.
  • pgeorge  must just be a bit bandwidth intensive with this livestream/hangout running simultaneously
  • Kate Robbins  It's interesting so many feel so uncomfortable not via an LMS
  • pgeorge  I love that model--12 weeks/12 weeks
  • pgeorge  that is the classic struggle for university folks--well almost everyone! structured learning vs open learning. Still looking for the prof to structure their learning
  • Kate Robbins  That's the US School System - administration has tp have the oversight
  • pgeorge  ummmm--oversight = control :-)
  • Kate Robbins  or saving their jobs:)
  • Lisa M Lane  oddly, if your class is open, they can oversight all they want
  • Lisa M Lane  but they want the stats maybe
  • pgeorge  probably right Lisa--stats...
  • pgeorge  I think Posterous provides a fantastic tool for this
  • Kate Robbins  Which is very difficult for the traditional learners, who grew up with structure
  • pgeorge  exactly Kate!
  • pgeorge  so true--Google has so many tools integrated for the entire experience
  • Kate Robbins  important for grants and funding
  • Kate Robbins  Where are you, Jeff?
  • Vanessa  but welcome to those of us who grew up resisting the structure
  • Kate Robbins  Is Arnold included? LOL
  • Vance  hi vanessa
  • Vanessa  hello all -
  • Vanessa  no sound just text
  • morteza barin  hello everybody
  • Lisa M Lane  you can join us in Google + hangout if you are linked to Jeff Lebow
  • Lisa M Lane  Vanessa, are you here via http://edtechtalk.com/livestreamjeff?
  • Vanessa  I'm finding higher ed faculty is as resistant to openness as admin: they characterize open learning as content without learning (eg no active 'teaching')
  • Vance  what about active learning?
  • Vanessa  I got Lisa's FB msg and am her via that link
  • Lisa M Lane  ooooh, I must remember that - OER might be content without teaching
  • Vanessa  Some find active learning threatening
  • Lisa M Lane  Vanessa, find Jeff LeBow through G+
  • pgeorge  hard to keep track of all of the MOOCs :-)
  • Vanessa  I replied by saying take one of these before passing judgement
  • Jeff Lebow: would you like to join Vanessa?
  • Kate Robbins  yes - mentorship finds itself
  • Kate Robbins  just not appointed
  • Vanessa  Yes, George it is... comforting that even a moocuru would find it so
  • Vanessa  I agree Kate - many is the time I have gone mentor hunting
  • pgeorge  community means you have to take some personal responsibility for contributing to the community--not just completing assignments
  • Vanessa  because what was offered did not suit
  • Jeff Lebow: hangout invite sent Vanessa
  • ralenefriend  Hello all
  • pgeorge  hi ralenefriend :-) welcome
  • Lisa M Lane  Hi Ralene!
  • Vanessa  cooperative also means (to some) relinquishing control
  • Vanessa  hi Ralene
  • Lisa M Lane  or switching to a different kind of control
  • Vance  that's a really good point, Kate, I'll certainly consider formalizing the mentorship relationship in future courses
  • Kate Robbins  It might save your time, Vance!
  • Kate Robbins  guess it relplaces the old model of team / partner work
  • pgeorge  the concept of aggregating using tags is really important--not just tracking/monitoring but aggregating
  • pgeorge  hahaha--grasshoppers for dummies!
  • Vanessa  Having done both, I think voluntary (and mutual) mentoring works better than old team / partner model w/ those imposed top down
  • pgeorge  scoop.it can handle individual blog posts but haven't tried a page with rss feeds
  • Kate Robbins  yes @Vanessa I agree
  • pgeorge  I agree @Vanessa--and don't need to have just one mentor--community of mentors :-)
  • Kate Robbins  Hi, by the way:)
  • Lisa M Lane  As a mentor and a mentee, I felt more comfortable having the connection defined, even loosely.
  • Vanessa  @George - Tags - took me a long time to really get the habit but they have made such a difference. I have Vance and EVO to thank
  • ASTM Student Members  Love Scoop.it too
  • pgeorge  Bill Zimmerman :-) To help educators, MakeBeliefsComix.com, thefree online comic strip generator, has launched a Daily Comix Diary Pageoffering many ideas at http://www.makebeliefscomix.com/Daily-Comix-Diary/
  • Vanessa  @Lisa - I agree, maybe it's something we need to work on... loose enough to be flexible but clear enough to be useful
  • Vance  here''s the list of epcop mooc recordings and upcoming sessions, here http://learning2gether.pbworks.com/w/page/32206114/volunteersneeded
  • pgeorge  thanks for the link Vance--have it bookmarked from your earlier email to webheads--very helpful!
  • Vance  coach Carol's Make Belief change eportfolio cover http://www.makebeliefscomix.com/Comix/?comix_id=33421980C521942
  • pgeorge  interesting distinction between collaboration and cooperation--not sure I agree
  • Kate Robbins  If  you're sharing ideas, that's collaborating, no?
  • pgeorge  good explanation Lisa :-) that makes sense
  • gjoyce  glenis joyce I'm in eportfolio mooc, great scaffolding, great support from Challenge Mentors. http://epcopmooc.ning.com/
  • ASTM Student Members  Google + question - Jeff how come you don't appear at the top, even when you're speaking
  • ASTM Student Members  now I'm hungry...
  • ASTM Student Members  Jeff, now you're on top :)
  • Kate Robbins  Vance re: Dan Pink - here is the link to the TED Talk re: motivation http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_pink_on_motivation.html
  • Kate Robbins  Dan Pink on the surprising science of motivation
  • pgeorge  is it that the "streamer" doesn't pop up to the top because of the audio source?
  • Vanessa  @G -  focused vs diffused  ~ collaboration requires cooperation..
  • Vance  yes and this is the link to the interview I mentioned earlier http://www.edtechcrew.net/2011/08/24/ed-tech-crew-171/
  • Kate Robbins  ok - thanks
  • Vance  he says the intrinsic drivers are the ones we should be attending to
  • pgeorge  some people don't trust their intrinsic drivers--think they don't know enough and want the guidance fromthe experts
  • Michael  I really apprecated folks recommendations during the eduMOOC regarding Canvas
  • Kate Robbins  drove me crazy in grad school -some prof use 1 chapter
  • pgeorge  and it's usually a textbook written by that faculty member :-(
  • Vanessa  intrinsic / extrinsic - big difference in language learing where a lot has been written about it
  • pgeorge  great first session!!! thank you all for your sharing and transparency! :-)
  • Vanessa  G+ is still trying to load me to hangout
  • pgeorge  global sweetspot! love it! I'm on Pacific time at 7:00am was definitely doable
  • pgeorge  80 viewers on Livestream :-) awesome!
  • Vanessa  I'll listen to the audio later
  • ASTM Student Members  I will spread the word on Twitter - already sent out a few tweets
  • Vanessa  but glad to be here any way I can - great cconversation, sifting of opinions
  • pgeorge  you can try cel.ly as a more private twitter option for a reluctant group
  • ASTM Student Members  I lost sound and video...
  • pgeorge  me too but just came back
  • ASTM Student Members  back now :)
  • Michael  Yes
  • pgeorge  no ads during--just at beginning for me
  • ASTM Student Members  Just a static ad under the chat box
  • pgeorge  and a little man in the lower right corner a few times
  • Kate Robbins  not in google
  • Kate Robbins  when?
  • ASTM Student Members  Also a slider at the top announcing upcoming streams
  • pgeorge  the static ad is a banner created by Jeff for Livestream channel
  • ASTM Student Members  All very non-intrusive though.
  • pgeorge  yes for me too ASTEM Student Members :-) worked well!
  • Vanessa  another hit for Wolfman Jeff
  • pgeorge  come on Jeff!!!!
  • pgeorge  I've been using ETT as the example for the powerful things you can do with Google Hangout streaming for larger group! I love it!
  • Kate Robbins  THank you!
  • pgeorge  thanks everyone!
  • ASTM Student Members  Bye