Seedlings Show 98 -2010-11-11

Post-Show description: 
We all decided that this was part one of more! Kelly Tenkley is an incredible voice for students, parents, teachers, the education community. You must give her a read through her blogs and a listen here at Seedlings!

Hello to show 98 with Kelly Tenkley from Colorado, talking with us about how she stays connected with her students now that she is out of the classroom!

Alice, Bob and Cheryl are all involved in the conversations with Kelly. You will be impressed. Oh, the chat room was on fire with some new folks here checking us out.

Geek of the Week Seedlings at Delicious:

The Chat: 19:17:27  cheryloakes~seedlings  Just getting ready, brb
 19:17:43  bobsprankle  me2 brb
 19:19:30  bobsprankle  back
 19:27:36  cheryloakes~seedlings  Hi di_chamberlain
 19:27:55  cheryloakes~seedlings  hello connect2jamie
 19:27:59  ktenkely  Hi di_chamberlain and connect2jamie
 19:28:02  di_chamberlain  Hello
 19:28:06  connect2jamie  Good evening every one!
 19:28:25  di_chamberlain  This is my first time here
 19:28:38  connect2jamie  Welcome @di!
 19:28:47  cheryloakes~seedlings  evening Michael!
 19:28:51  ktenkely  Hi @Michael Richards and @mslaneeus
 19:28:52  cheryloakes~seedlings  Hello mslaneeus
 19:28:59  Michael Richards  Hi Everyone
 19:28:59  mslaneeus  Hello
 19:29:43  Michael Richards  Cheryl and Bob, FYI at the JHS the principal used WallWisher to engage his staff at yesterday's staff meeting.
 19:29:47  bobsprankle  hello all!
 19:29:56  cheryloakes~seedlings  NICE, go chris Chessie, at WJHS
 19:29:56  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  Hi everyone!
 19:30:03  cheryloakes~seedlings  Scott
 19:30:13  ktenkely  Hi Scott!
 19:30:14  Scott Shelhart @kd9sr  Hello all
 19:30:16  Michael Richards  Coming through loud and clear audio
 19:30:29  cheryloakes~seedlings  Thanks for the sound check
 19:30:47  connect2jamie  Is the ustream going to be up tonite?
 19:31:03  cheryloakes~seedlings  Just the ETTA  no ustream,
 19:31:06  Scott Shelhart @kd9sr  Is there a direct link to the show?  I'll send a tweet
 19:31:13  connect2jamie  OK!
 19:31:20  cheryloakes~seedlings  our macs don't have enough power to run ustream and etta
 19:31:28  cheryloakes~seedlings  hello cbrannon!
 19:31:37  connect2jamie  link is
 19:31:41  cbrannon  hello all.  sound up yet?
 19:31:49  cheryloakes~seedlings  scott,  
 19:31:54  connect2jamie  The Ed Tech stream is up.
 19:32:00  cheryloakes~seedlings
 19:32:04  cheryloakes~seedlings  then ETTA
 19:32:04  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  @cbrannon Yes click on the EDTechA button
 19:32:14  mslaneeus  No snow here in British Columbia
 19:32:36  Michael Richards  Yea Dr. Kohn!!!!!
 19:32:42  cheryloakes~seedlings  Oh British Columbia was beautiful last Feb for the Olympics
 19:32:55  mslaneeus  Thanks!
 19:33:20  cheryloakes~seedlings  The Sea to Skyway drive was breath taking and in a few places I held my breath!
 19:33:33  mslaneeus  :)
 19:33:45  connect2jamie  eating ribs while chatting tonite....better not chat for awhile or my Mac will be a mess!
 19:34:10  cheryloakes~seedlings  Oh, barbque sauce on the white keyboard, yum
 19:34:17  connect2jamie  ;)
 19:35:29  cheryloakes~seedlings   very powerful resource
 19:35:29  bobsprankle  hi wild
 19:35:37  cheryloakes~seedlings  hello wildtrut77
 19:35:47  wildtrut77  hi
 19:35:55  di_chamberlain  Cheryloakes- my hubby said you invited him to join in tonight
 19:36:06  di_chamberlain  but he is cooking dinner
 19:36:13  cheryloakes~seedlings  Oh, on his blog, right??
 19:36:17  di_chamberlain  right
 19:36:33  cheryloakes~seedlings   Yes, di, this will be a podcast tomorrow, or
 19:37:07  cheryloakes~seedlings  I often listen the next day and learn tons that I miss while running the show
 19:37:48  cheryloakes~seedlings
 19:37:48  di_chamberlain  Should I be hearing something? All I've heard is "Welcome"
 19:38:04  cheryloakes~seedlings Kelly's blog
 19:38:20  cheryloakes~seedlings
 19:38:31  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  @di_chamberlain Click on the button that says EdTEchA
 19:38:32  cheryloakes~seedlings  What great resources already.
 19:38:50  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  You should hear sound through iTunes
 19:39:00  di_chamberlain  thanks
 19:39:06  di_chamberlain  got it
 19:39:28  cheryloakes~seedlings  Welcome Di, to you and your hubby, please share his blog address it is on my other computer.
 19:41:34  ktenkely
 19:42:46  ktenkely
 19:42:55  cheryloakes~seedlings  Hello wmchamberlain, welcome
 19:43:47  cheryloakes~seedlings  evening, elawson, how are you?
 19:43:52  connect2jamie  Welcome wm and di! This is a great place to learn things! Love Seedlings each week! I look forward to it!
 19:43:54  elawson  great cheryl how are you?
 19:44:09  cheryloakes~seedlings  Fine, Eric, loving my inclass experiences.
 19:44:13  di_chamberlain  [email protected]
 19:44:16  elawson  That's good to hear
 19:44:34  cheryloakes~seedlings  Thanks Di, for sharing the blog of your husband, great blog post today!!!
 19:44:57  di_chamberlain  sorry- it's
 19:45:10  cheryloakes~seedlings  Eric, I heard you rocked the ACTEM conference! I was driving Vicki and Angela to the airport.
 19:45:21  elawson  Thanks!
 19:45:30  elawson  I posted everything on my web page from the conference
 19:45:45  cheryloakes~seedlings  Did you send the link to Gary? If not I will.
 19:45:52  elawson  Ya, it's up on the ACTEM site
 19:46:01  cheryloakes~seedlings  Excellent, Eric.
 19:46:23  cheryloakes~seedlings  Hi Wmchamberlain, loved your blog post.
 19:46:33  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  @Eric my teachers loved your session! Nice job!
 19:46:40  elawson  Thanks Alice!
 19:46:41  wmchamberlain  Hi Cheryl, thanks for leaving the comment :)
 19:46:52  ktenkely
 19:47:00  cheryloakes~seedlings  You bet , smchamberlain, this really is a great group for that weekly fix!
 19:47:11  cheryloakes~seedlings  oops wm not cm
 19:47:28  elawson  I love the blog and the online education for elementary and middle school kids Kelly
 19:47:39  ktenkely  Thank you @elawson
 19:47:49  wmchamberlain  I enjoy the online meetings, but have always had to work around @di_chamberlain :)
 19:48:16  cheryloakes~seedlings  Yes, we all, have that work around. :-)
 19:48:26  wmchamberlain  BTW you can call me William or Bill (or even Will)
 19:48:41  cheryloakes~seedlings  Thanks, Will.
 19:49:01  di_chamberlain  Or I could give you a few more names to call him ;)
 19:49:14  connect2jamie  @di LOL
 19:49:19  Scott Shelhart @kd9sr  Lots of cool additions to my RSS reader tonight.   :D
 19:49:22  cheryloakes~seedlings  Sure Di, pretty fun to have both of you here.
 19:49:38  cheryloakes~seedlings  Thanks Scott! this is a good hangout.
 19:49:50  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  @Scott Boy you said it! Good stuff!
 19:50:38  Scott Shelhart @kd9sr  I dont aslways make the live show, but Seedlings is always on my podcast feed.
 19:50:40  cheryloakes~seedlings  Absolutely, it is an explosive time.
 19:50:50  connect2jamie  Wish I were hearing more conversation in my real life about topics that Waiting for Superman brought up....
 19:50:52  cheryloakes~seedlings  Thanks, Scott, we appreciate that.
 19:51:22  connect2jamie  My online community is all over the topic. Not so much my community IRL
 19:51:22  cheryloakes~seedlings  Yes, connect2jamie, it means finding good people to chat and reflect.
 19:51:43  cbrannon  My delicous links are growing.  Love it!  We are getting ready for EdCampBham down here...some of this stuff is gold.  thanks.
 19:52:19  cheryloakes~seedlings  cbrannon, check out and  we will post the links to our delicious Geek of the week, tomorrow.
 19:52:19  wmchamberlain  @cbrannon I enjoyed edcampKC, it is great to get to see online friends face to face
 19:53:37  mslaneeus  Standardizing education a big concern here too.
 19:53:42  cbrannon  @Will, will do.  Thanks!
 19:55:14  cheryloakes~seedlings  The National TechPlan has goals for us by 2015!!!
 19:55:21  connect2jamie  So true--Sir Ken Robinson is amazing--and that RSA piece IS brilliant!
 19:55:26  connect2jamie  Wow!
 19:55:41  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  I see smoething new each time I watch it
 19:55:46  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  something
 19:56:02  connect2jamie  @alice That's what is amazing about him, isn't it?
 19:56:02  Michael Richards  Sir Ken Robinson rocks.  Here is his blog
 19:57:22  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  @connect2jamie Yes I think what is so engaging about his work is that it's different every time
 19:57:42  connect2jamie  I love his brain! :)
 19:58:13  alicebarr (SEEDlings)
 19:58:32  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  THE RSA video... Now everyone wait or we will lose you!
 19:58:56  cheryloakes~seedlings  Oh, alice, they can multi-task. :p
 19:59:10  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  @connect2jamie Read his book with reading group of students this summer. Very cool
 19:59:18  mslaneeus  Just watched this video at our last staff meeting.  Really makes you think.  If only....
 19:59:32  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  :D
 19:59:47  mslaneeus  LOVED the part where he compares our current education system to a factory.
 19:59:58  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  @mslaneeus What did the staff think?
 20:00:28  elawson  Our 21st century team will watch this video on Monday. I can't wait to see what they think.
 20:00:29  connect2jamie  @alice interesting reading group. Did his message resonate with the kids?
 20:00:30  mslaneeus  Lots of discussion.  The will to change.  Our current provincial govt is in some turmoil but keeps screaming assessment so we have worries.
 20:00:52  cheryloakes~seedlings  Eric, take notes and let us know.
 20:00:59  elawson  I'll podcast it for you Cheryl
 20:01:08  cheryloakes~seedlings  YES! a podcast....
 20:01:41  mslaneeus  @ Alice They talk 21st century learning but are dragging will have to be a groundswell......
 20:01:51  wmchamberlain  There was rock in the 80's? I don't remember that...
 20:01:52  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  @connect2jamie Yes it did. They are thinking about some possibilities for "other" kinds of learning at our high school. Not sure what it looks like yet, but it really got them thinking.
 20:02:44  connect2jamie  @alice I love that students were energized by Sir Ken's message. Gives me hope.
 20:02:58  cbrannon  Family duty calls.  Will have to catch up later.  Thanks for the great resources, tips and thought provoking material...
 20:03:07  cheryloakes~seedlings  thanks for stopping cbrannon
 20:03:12  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  @mslaneeus Yes, tough to get through the assessment challenge
 20:03:12  connect2jamie  Good night @cbrannon!
 20:03:36  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  I like that "VALUE in thinking differently"
 20:04:34  mslaneeus  I think it also has to be aimed at our individual interests\
 20:04:46  mslaneeus  Find our interest and you find our passion.
 20:04:52  di_chamberlain  test test test
 20:05:06  cheryloakes~seedlings  so many gifts , every child, we should celebrate these gifts
 20:05:17  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  Students want teachers to know about their passion.
 20:05:22  mslaneeus  Exactly.
 20:05:48  cheryloakes~seedlings  Yes, Alice, student passion and engagement.
 20:07:06  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  WE have been having interesting discussions at school becasue college essays are due and they are often about passion
 20:07:16  cheryloakes~seedlings  how many of your schools have a scripted reading program?
 20:07:28  mslaneeus  Not ours.
 20:07:38  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  Too bad kids don't get a chance to express those until senior year sometimes :(
 20:07:39  wmchamberlain  We have Reading First
 20:07:41  connect2jamie  Kids' passions--that is what makes my job as a librarian so great! I get a chance to connect my kids with their least some of the time I do! I try to buy books that feed their passions.
 20:07:43  Scott Shelhart @kd9sr  curiculum pacing/mapping is mandated in many states :-(
 20:08:00  cheryloakes~seedlings   thanks for the feedback
 20:08:04  connect2jamie  And BTW, I'm in an elementary school, so their passions are quite innocent most of the time! LOL!
 20:08:10  ktenkely  Being a specialist does make it easier to celebrate passions!
 20:08:17  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  @connect2jamie How wonderful!!!
 20:08:40  connect2jamie  best job in the building, most days!
 20:08:55  cheryloakes~seedlings  yes, connect2jamie, how lucky!
 20:09:04  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  @kelly I agree me too as integrator. We get to talk to kids about "other stuff"
 20:09:17  ktenkely  It makes such a difference!
 20:10:16  connect2jamie  Yes--I think "specialized" teachers do have an easier way of working kids' passions into the day. I know it's easier for me now than when I taught Algebra!
 20:12:07  mslaneeus  Just went to a workshop with Ruth Sutton (from the UK) and she was talking about the subjectivity of standardized tests.  Excellent presentation.
 20:12:12  di_chamberlain  What do you think about students retaking tests they fail?
 20:12:39  cheryloakes~seedlings  Di, I am in a HS resource room, and we lobby for that and allow for it when we can!!
 20:13:39  connect2jamie  Our students are allowed a retake on any grade that is below 70%. Very hard for our elem tchrs to fit that into the day. In MS and HS, it's a big problem!
 20:14:23  di_chamberlain  Mobile County, AL has a new policy saying teachers MUST allow students to retake tests they fail
 20:14:31  cheryloakes~seedlings  Yes, it is hard to squeeze this into a day, but if a student has a 60, and an F, what purpose do they have to come back again.
 20:14:44  cheryloakes~seedlings  Wow, Di, that is amazing.
 20:14:58  connect2jamie  That is SUCH a great analogy! We don't expect every kid to lose their teeth on the same day! I love that! Why are we expecting every kid to learn to read at a standardized level, etc.?
 20:15:23  cheryloakes~seedlings  Right, connect2jamie.   Just like all kids are not born on Sept. 1
 20:15:52  mslaneeus  @ Jamie  Because, as SKR points out, we bunch them according to age.  Not individuals.
 20:16:16  di_chamberlain   This is the blog
 20:16:40  cheryloakes~seedlings  Thanks, Di, this is the Mobile, AL article, right
 20:16:46  di_chamberlain  yes
 20:16:51  cheryloakes~seedlings  Hello Emily!
 20:16:53  mslaneeus  @ Jamie It's like saying they have an expiration date.  You must read by this age or you are not good any longer.
 20:17:11  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  Wow
 20:17:20  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  I want to go to this school
 20:17:41  cheryloakes~seedlings  Twitacad, sounds expansive!
 20:18:00  connect2jamie  @cheryl Yes--in TX we've had a big uproar about failing grades. Our district, and several n the Houston area lobbied the state gov b/c we have always made the lowest grading period grade possible be a 50%. If a kid got a 30% as avg one rpt card, there's very little way he/she could ever make high enough grades to pass the semester. State didn't like it. We lost the battle this fall. We must put the "true" grade. Little reason for kids to keep trying.
 20:18:27  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  Oh that is so amazing! So cool
 20:18:47  cheryloakes~seedlings  Oh, connect2jamie, how sad keep them in a box.:-(
 20:18:56  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  OOps I was talking about Twitacad
 20:19:38  connect2jamie  @cheryl Yes, our superintendent really went to bat for kids--along with several others in the Houston area. Very sad that they lost.
 20:20:06  wmchamberlain  What about shared experiences/history/curriculum. Isn't it important for society that we have some things in common?
 20:20:32  connect2jamie  @mslaneeus expiration date--and they're only FIVE!!!
 20:20:52  di_chamberlain  When did passing a test become more important than learning?
 20:21:06  mslaneeus  When politicians became involved..
 20:21:19  di_chamberlain  Can they pass the test?
 20:21:22  connect2jamie  So sad, but it did, @di. Hopefully it will change before the end of my career!
 20:21:34  mslaneeus  @ Di.....not a chance!
 20:22:10  wmchamberlain  Similar curriculum but using universal design principles?
 20:22:19  connect2jamie  Exactly! When politicians got involved! And sadly, many of thost politicians were Texans......sorry guys! ;)
 20:22:37  elawson  That would be great!
 20:22:59  cheryloakes~seedlings  I agree , Eric.
 20:22:59  bobsprankle
 20:23:01  connect2jamie  The dogs have let us down?
 20:23:02  di_chamberlain  Maybe they should be able to consistantly improve their scores
 20:23:16  cheryloakes~seedlings  Di, I agree, continuous improvement.
 20:23:33  bobsprankle
 20:24:25  bobsprankle
 20:26:37  connect2jamie  Ahh!! The dogs! :D
 20:27:13  connect2jamie  What is that one?
 20:27:22  connect2jamie  I'd love an invite!
 20:27:26  elawson  me three
 20:27:33  bobsprankle
 20:27:50  alicebarr (SEEDlings)
 20:28:15  connect2jamie  Wow! What a lot of great links tonight! This is why I LOVE seedlings!!
 20:28:19  bobsprankle
 20:28:24  cheryloakes~seedlings  Awesome links I agree!!
 20:30:54  bobsprankle
 20:31:35  ktenkely
 20:32:34  alicebarr (SEEDlings)
 20:32:57  Michael Richards  You are welcome Cheryl
 20:33:08  elawson  Didn't you win that iPad at ACTEM Michael?
 20:33:28  alicebarr (SEEDlings)
 20:33:30  Michael Richards  Yes I did.
 20:33:34  elawson  Very nice!
 20:34:14  wmchamberlain  Don't forget about Dragon Dictation for the ipad
 20:34:28  wmchamberlain  I would put the link, but Firefox is not playing nice
 20:34:30  cheryloakes~seedlings  Thanks Will, yes Dragon Dictation , is it still free?
 20:34:48  wmchamberlain  Cheryl, yes it is free.
 20:34:56  cheryloakes~seedlings  Will, you get the URL in a browser, then drag the link from the browser to the chat
 20:35:06  connect2jamie  Wow!
 20:35:31  connect2jamie  I will definitely vote for your kids!! :D Leverage the network!
 20:35:32  wmchamberlain Dragon Dictation
 20:35:40  cheryloakes~seedlings  Our guest next week!! Larry Ferlazzo,
 20:35:41  Michael Richards  Will, isn't there a limit to the amount of text you can get out of Dictation?
 20:35:44  wmchamberlain  Thanks, Cheryl
 20:35:47  cheryloakes~seedlings  The chat, room rocks.
 20:36:01  connect2jamie  This has been a great session tonight!!
 20:36:04  bobsprankle  Thanks all! goodnight!
 20:36:08  connect2jamie  Thanks all!
 20:36:09  mslaneeus  Fantastic everyone.  Thanks for all the info.
 20:36:13  alicebarr (SEEDlings)  Thanks!
 20:36:13  di_chamberlain  I enjoyed listening in.
 20:36:15  elawson  I agree! Invite Kelly back for round two
 20:36:17  Michael Richards  Thanks everyone
 20:36:21  connect2jamie  Night!