Teachers Teaching Teachers #189 - Reading and Writing in Kentuckiana: Paul Hankins and student talk about their Ning - 02.24.10

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On this episode of Teachers Teaching Teachers, you will learn more about RAW INcK: Reading and Writing in Kentuckiana. Our guests were one site’s student managers, Tyler, along with their teacher, Paul W. Hankins, an English Teacher and Creator of RAW INcK. (Another student-manager of the Ning, Jin joined us in the chat room.) Paul is also a teacher-consultant with the Indiana University Southeast Writing Project and a State Representative to ALAN from Indiana. Listen to find out why we are excited to connect up with RAW INcK, “A Reading and Writing Community Hosted by the Juniors of Silver Creek High School [Indiana]. Now hosting members from all across America! Go INcK!”

Learn about how they set up chat sessions with authors like these:

  • Ellen Hopkins, author of Crank, Burned, Impulse, Glass, and Identical.
  • Chris Crutcher. Crutcher’s works include Athletic Shorts, Chinese Handcuffs, Deadline, The Sledding Hill, and King of the Mild Frontier.
  • Kimberly Willis Holt, author of When Zachary Beaver Came to Town, My Louisiana Sky, and a host of other YA titles.


Click Read more to see a copy of the chat that was happening during the webcast.

20:40:14 Paul W. Hankins 1: Jin: Go check your email. We need to get your number to Paul Allison in New York.
20:42:05 Jin_Kaps 1: Audio? I thought I was just doing text...
20:43:18 SusanEttenheim 1: hi everyone
20:43:28 SusanEttenheim 1: welcome!
20:44:20 Paul W. Hankins 1: Nope. . .now do what Mr. Hankins says (grin). By the way, It's Allison with 2 Ls. Okay. . .
20:44:37 Paul W. Hankins 1: Good evening, Susan. . .just waiting for your Skype call.
20:45:57 SusanEttenheim 1: I"m going to get my supper and bring it in and I'll call you all in about 4-5 min :)
20:46:43 Paul Alison 1: Hi Paul, Jin, and Tyler.
20:46:48 Tyler Spencer 1: Hello
20:47:10 Paul Alison 1: Do you all want to connect by phone? Do you have a phone where it won't cost you minutes... ?
20:47:12 Jin_Kaps 1: Hi
20:47:30 Paul Alison 1: Being here in the chat room is cool too.
20:48:07 Paul Alison 1: But, SusanEttenheim could also include you in the skype conference as well with a phone number.
20:48:19 Jin_Kaps 1: Tyler and I can talk to each other for free, but anything off of Verizon costs us. Sorry guys.
20:48:34 Jin_Kaps 1: But I'm really excited to be here.
20:48:42 Tyler Spencer 1: Yeah, we got rid of the land phone, and switched to cells
20:49:12 Paul Alison 1: ... and it would cost to call in to you?
20:49:17 Paul W. Hankins 1: Millineals. . .to the core. We will have to get Jin and Tyler to read the new Pew Report out today.
20:49:28 Jin_Kaps 1: Yeah, it would cost us.
20:54:46 Paul Alison 1: If we could, we will pay for the call. We would love to get you in on this call.
20:55:04 Paul Alison 1: You would send us the bill and we
20:55:10 SusanEttenheim 1: do we need to have your parent's permission?
20:55:23 Jin_Kaps 1: Mommy said no. =[ I know that sounds lame, but that's the verdict.
20:55:29 SusanEttenheim 1: no prob
20:55:35 Jin_Kaps 1: I'm sad.
20:55:36 SusanEttenheim 1: but we could reimburse the call
20:55:44 Paul Alison 1: no problem... understood.
20:55:47 SusanEttenheim 1: do you want us to call her?
20:55:53 SusanEttenheim 1:  but no prob if that's it?
20:56:36 Jin_Kaps 1: She's watching American Idol. lol Yeah, she's not going to let me.  Too last minute to be making decisions to take calls from people from the internet. lol
20:56:57 Paul Alison 1: Cool... good to have you here.
20:57:04 Jin_Kaps 1: Glad to be here.
20:57:23 SusanEttenheim 1: hi andrea welcome
20:57:24 Paul Alison 1: Andrea, can you join us on Skype?
20:57:33 AndreaZellner 1: Hi :)
20:57:55 AndreaZellner 1: On Skype?
20:57:58 SusanEttenheim 1: yes
20:58:00 Paul Alison 1: yes.
20:58:06 Paul Alison 1: yes
20:58:07 Paul Alison 1: yes
20:58:08 Paul Alison 1: ye
20:58:41 AndreaZellner 1: That's a lot of yeses!
20:58:49 Paul Alison 1: :)
20:59:09 SusanEttenheim 1: so you should all be hearing us now
20:59:15 SusanEttenheim 1: with a little delay
20:59:25 SusanEttenheim 1: you'll need to click on edtechtalk A
20:59:54 SusanEttenheim 1: and then the audio stream will open in something like itunes
21:01:10 SusanEttenheim 1: how it going everyone? can you hear?
21:01:23 AndreaZellner 1: I hear you :)
21:01:25 Tyler Spencer 1: Yes I can hear you
21:01:28 SusanEttenheim 1: great tyler
21:01:30 SusanEttenheim 1: welcome
21:01:40 Tyler Spencer 1: im going to check on my minutes real quick
21:01:40 AndreaZellner 1: I am working on my other technical issues...
21:01:56 SusanEttenheim 1: anything we can help with/
21:01:59 SusanEttenheim 1: ?
21:02:05 SusanEttenheim 1: welcome back jin
21:02:17 Jin_Kaps 1: Thanks. I can hear now. Cool.
21:02:24 SusanEttenheim 1: great
21:03:10 SusanEttenheim 1: jin and tyler - are you both students of Mr. Hankins?
21:03:18 SusanEttenheim 1: hi joel welcome!
21:03:21 Tyler Spencer 1: We were as juniors
21:03:25 Tyler Spencer 1: we are seniors now
21:03:29 Tyler Spencer 1: and manage the site
21:03:31 SusanEttenheim 1: we have paul hankins and his students tonight
21:03:36 Jin_Kaps 1: Yeah, we just stuck around because we love him so much.
21:03:39 SusanEttenheim 1: ahhh seniors
21:03:55 SusanEttenheim 1: do you know where you will be next year?
21:04:03 Joel Malley 1: Hello
21:04:07 SusanEttenheim 1: or are you waiting til april with the rest of the world
21:04:08 SusanEttenheim 1: ?
21:04:20 Jin_Kaps 1: I'll be at the University of Louisville. Ha. Studying art.
21:04:31 SusanEttenheim 1: I teach at Eleanor Roosevelt High School in NYC
21:04:45 SusanEttenheim 1: our seniors are waiting... although they are starting to hear more
21:04:51 SusanEttenheim 1: congrats jin
21:04:55 SusanEttenheim 1: I teach art too
21:05:01 SusanEttenheim 1: with other electives
21:05:15 Jin_Kaps 1: Thanks. Oh, that's cool.  I've actually never taken an art class in high school.
21:05:38 SusanEttenheim 1: wow how did you decide to study art in college?
21:06:03 Jin_Kaps 1: I've always loved to draw and I want to do something with architecture... interior design, I think.
21:06:30 SusanEttenheim 1: At our school, I teach computer arts - next year to be animation, digital photography, art I and art II and Caribbean Art online with VHS
21:06:43 SusanEttenheim 1: that sounds great jin
21:06:53 SusanEttenheim 1: tyler what are you thinking about studying?
21:07:16 Tyler Spencer 1: i am going to study computer networking and software  / web design
21:07:30 SusanEttenheim 1: how did you decide on that tyler?
21:08:01 Tyler Spencer 1: well, I spend most of my free time on computers, Its what I accel at, I consider my self a mini-hacker
21:08:20 Tyler Spencer 1: Paul, I did send my mobile number
21:08:31 SusanEttenheim 1: tyler pm it to me and I'll call you in
21:08:40 Tyler Spencer 1: ok
21:09:05 SusanEttenheim 1: you can double click on the name here or pm me in skype susanettenheim
21:09:52 Tyler Spencer 1: send
21:09:55 Tyler Spencer 1: sent*
21:12:29 Jin_Kaps 1: Yay! I hear Tyler!
21:12:50 SusanEttenheim 1: jin we can ask questions or repeat your comments
21:12:50 AndreaZellner 1: Hi Tyler!
21:13:02 SusanEttenheim 1: welcome sxb please introduce yourself!
21:13:05 Paul Alison 1: http://rawinck.ning.com/
21:13:15 Jin_Kaps 1: Ok, cool.
21:13:16 Paul Alison 1: http://paulallison.tumblr.com/post/408225570/join-paul-hankins-and-two-s...
21:13:43 Paul Alison 1: http://www.wclark.k12.in.us/content.asp?q_areaprimaryid=6&q_areasecondar...
21:15:06 Joel Malley 1: Hey Suzanne
21:15:48 Paul W. Hankins 1: Hello, everybody. . .I am so proud of Tyler and Jin. They are doing a great job tonight talking about the site.
21:16:22 SusanEttenheim 1: Joel we have two seniors joining us tonight
21:16:34 SusanEttenheim 1: please introduce yourself! where and what do you teach?
21:16:56 Joel Malley 1: I teach two senior electives (Mass Media/Film Production) and AP Literature outside of Buffalo, NY
21:17:30 SusanEttenheim 1: hi dbragg welcome! please introduce yourself!
21:17:56 SusanEttenheim 1: you are so lucky to have this amazing person as your English teacher!!
21:18:38 Jin_Kaps 1: Mr. Hankins? Yeah, he's pretty great. I don't know what I'd do without him and RAW INcK.
21:18:58 Tyler Spencer 1: Jin and I would die without the INcK
21:19:07 Jin_Kaps 1: He speaks the truth.
21:19:14 Paul Alison 1: http://paulallison.tumblr.com/post/408225570/join-paul-hankins-and-two-s...
21:19:16 SusanEttenheim 1: Jin what was your reaction when you first heard about this project?
21:20:01 Jin_Kaps 1: I was really thrown off, actually. A teacher? Social network? huh? But I was excited. I didn't know what to make of it.  I had no idea it would be such a huge part of my life and education.
21:20:23 SusanEttenheim 1: What made you try it?
21:20:47 SusanEttenheim 1: Were you already a "good" student or were you just intrigued?
21:21:14 Jin_Kaps 1: Points. Initially, I think that was the motivation.  Yes, I was a "good" student, but I like to think I was interested in it enough anyway.
21:21:33 SusanEttenheim 1: Did you get extra points for doing it?
21:22:04 SusanEttenheim 1: welcome back dbragg
21:22:28 DBragg 1: thanks, I'm fighting with this computer...I won
21:22:34 Jin_Kaps 1: I believe so, but it was over a year ago, so I dont remember exactly. Joining was GREATLY encouraged, and I'm the type of student who wants to please the teacher.
21:23:01 SusanEttenheim 1: at what point did it start to mean something to you personally beyond the class?
21:23:02 DBragg 1: I'm a FCS teacher in Allentown, PA
21:23:19 SusanEttenheim 1: pls remind of FCS - what is it?
21:23:53 DBragg 1: Family and Consumer Science...aka Home Economics
21:24:00 SusanEttenheim 1: thanks!
21:24:10 Jin_Kaps 1: When I realized what a connection students could make to the authors Mr. Hankins was collecting.  He's talking about my best friend, Hannah, actually.  That's one of the things that really got to me.
21:24:26 SusanEttenheim 1: what got you?
21:24:52 Jin_Kaps 1: Hannah's connection with Brad Cohen.
21:25:06 Jin_Kaps 1: The magnitude of the situation amazed me.
21:25:18 Jin_Kaps 1: Author/student interaction.
21:27:21 Paul W. Hankins 1: Jin and Tyler will always be part of Room 210. They are essential to the success of RAW INcK.
21:27:33 Jin_Kaps 1: Aww thanks, Mr. Hankins.
21:27:43 Paul W. Hankins 1: We have our Super Chat next Monday with 18 YA authors.
21:27:54 Paul Alison 1: http://rawinck.ning.com/profiles/blogs/raw-inck-super-chat-march-1st
21:28:26 Paul W. Hankins 1: Unbelievable. I invited them all because I didn't want to offend anyone when we started promoting the event.
21:28:41 Paul W. Hankins 1: I didn't know that 18 would say "yes. . ."
21:29:05 Jin_Kaps 1: Absolutely.
21:29:13 Jin_Kaps 1: To what Tyler said. lol
21:29:21 Tyler Spencer 1: well.. you wrote 18...
21:29:23 Tyler Spencer 1: hehe
21:30:57 Tyler Spencer 1: I love listening to hankins talk about the inck
21:31:08 Jin_Kaps 1: Oh, me too. I could do it all day long. haha.
21:31:20 Tyler Spencer 1: Trigonometry ? or RAW INcK!
21:31:39 Jin_Kaps 1: RAW INcK!
21:32:53 Jin_Kaps 1: He makes us sound AWESOME.
21:33:42 Tyler Spencer 1: I know, right? Im developing an ego..
21:34:02 Jin_Kaps 1: I thought you already had one... haha
21:35:04 Tyler Spencer 1: FLO-CAB
21:35:43 Tyler Spencer 1: Not one
21:36:23 Jin_Kaps 1: I personally found the beat really helpful in learning the words.  I'm not even a fan of rap, but I love it.
21:37:49 Tyler Spencer 1: Shakespear is hip-hop
21:38:02 Jin_Kaps 1: Hip-hop is Shakespeare!
21:38:25 Jin_Kaps 1: Nickel on the track...
21:39:55 Tyler Spencer 1: 454
21:40:25 Tyler Spencer 1: Poets, educators authors
21:44:06 Tyler Spencer 1: Jin you still with us?
21:44:17 Jin_Kaps 1: yup, right here.
21:44:38 Tyler Spencer 1: alright, maybe we should maybe Q & A in the chat, put up some information?
21:44:48 SusanEttenheim 1: please!
21:44:59 Jin_Kaps 1: where do ya wanna start, Ty?
21:45:36 SusanEttenheim 1: what would happen if a batch of students showed up Monday? Would it get too big?
21:45:36 Tyler Spencer 1: well, I do not think that hankins has hit the student works yet. Blogs, Assignment Postings, Ect - maybe our perspective
21:45:47 SusanEttenheim 1: Would it get better or worse?
21:45:56 SusanEttenheim 1: Would it ruin your community or build it?
21:46:40 Jin_Kaps 1: For the chat? Is that what we're talking about?
21:46:47 SusanEttenheim 1: yes
21:47:06 Jin_Kaps 1: If organized properly, that would be a great experience.
21:47:17 Tyler Spencer 1: there he goes with the students
21:47:30 SusanEttenheim 1: what is the largest number of people you've had in a chat?
21:47:58 SusanEttenheim 1: I was actually my job to run online chats and we would actually close rooms at 50 and that was really too big
21:48:08 SusanEttenheim 1: It - sorry
21:48:21 Tyler Spencer 1: well, its all about student interest, our chat sessions are never what you would call underpopulated or small - I can estimate we've had 30 people
21:48:28 Jin_Kaps 1: Umm.. I think the largest one might have been with Ellen Hopkins, if I'm not mistaken, but I'm not sure how many students were there.  I wasn't able to sit in on that one that night.
21:48:35 Jin_Kaps 1: That sounds about right, Ty.
21:49:49 Paul W. Hankins 1: We would need the teacher host with that group of students, I think. They could set up a group and have the teacher as host.
21:49:58 Jin_Kaps 1: Yeah, I agree.
21:50:33 Paul W. Hankins 1: It would need to happen quickly so that we could get them organized into that group and get them settled into the Ning community.
21:50:40 Paul W. Hankins 1: 94%
21:50:43 Jin_Kaps 1: Small....
21:50:51 Tyler Spencer 1: wow
21:51:03 Jin_Kaps 1: 150-170 graduating.
21:51:15 Jin_Kaps 1: In our class.
21:51:17 Jin_Kaps 1: I think.,
21:52:17 Paul W. Hankins 1: Some of our students graduate midterm. Early deployment to military, etc. . .
21:53:23 Jin_Kaps 1: Truth.
21:53:30 SusanEttenheim 1: uh oh
21:53:59 Jin_Kaps 1: Really?? I was never banned... hahaha
21:54:57 SusanEttenheim 1: jin what do you think makes the conversations at your site sometimes be more interesting or compelling than facebook?
21:55:34 Jin_Kaps 1: You're instantly connected with authors, educators, ect... so much to learn, to look into.
21:55:55 Tyler Spencer 1: Ill be posting the top readers in each class from now on..
21:56:22 Jin_Kaps 1: It's not meaningly chatter with friends... its real for real learning and building on yourself and who you are as a student, classmate, person.
21:56:24 SusanEttenheim 1: are you graphic novel readers too?
21:57:00 Jin_Kaps 1: Ive never read one cover to cover, but they interest me.
21:57:19 Jin_Kaps 1: meaningless**
21:58:45 Joel Malley 1: i wanted to check it out, lol...
21:58:48 Joel Malley 1: looks awesome
21:59:05 Joel Malley 1: I plan on showing my 10th graders around in the beginning of class tomorrow
22:00:46 Tyler Spencer 1: Awesome!
22:02:30 SusanEttenheim 1: hi carol welcome!
22:02:42 carolteach4 1: Been lurking tonight -had to log in because I can't find the link to the Ning being discussed - getting all kinds of wild stuff when I Google raw ink
22:03:07 Tyler Spencer 1: www.RAWINcK.ning.com
22:05:25 Jin_Kaps 1: Room 210 IS my library.
22:05:32 Tyler Spencer 1: exactly
22:05:37 Jin_Kaps 1: I go there for books first.
22:05:49 Paul Alison 1: http://www.wclark.k12.in.us/content.asp?q_areaprimaryid=6&q_areasecondar...
22:05:57 SusanEttenheim 1: hi carol!
22:06:04 SusanEttenheim 1: do you have it now?
22:06:31 Tyler Spencer 1: ""RAW INcK"" ?
22:06:38 SusanEttenheim 1: wow carol did you hear that?
22:07:26 carolteach4 1: @Tyler - thanks!
22:07:32 SusanEttenheim 1: jin - we have an author Misako Takashima coming to our school March 24. I'm wondering if some of you would like to join us live with her?
22:07:57 Jin_Kaps 1: Live?
22:07:58 SusanEttenheim 1: In the past, sometimes I have webcasted live author visits
22:08:04 SusanEttenheim 1: similar to this
22:08:21 carolteach4 1: I am trying to join - insists I upload a photo and answer a lot of questions. I'll have to do so later as I was in school until 8pm tonight, and my brain is scrambled eggs.
22:08:24 SusanEttenheim 1: and should we invite our students to join you next week?
22:08:49 SusanEttenheim 1: yes I remember that last week carol
22:08:50 Jin_Kaps 1: I'm not too savy with Skype, chats I can do, possibly the audio...
22:09:09 SusanEttenheim 1: no you would just do exactly as this
22:09:26 SusanEttenheim 1: but it's 2:20-3pm what time of school is that at your school?
22:09:33 carolteach4 1: This was a very interesting and intrieguing (can't spell tonight) conversation.
22:09:35 Jin_Kaps 1: I'd ask Mr. Hankins about additional students. I think it'd be a great idea though.
22:09:41 DBragg 1: Very Interesting conversation - glad I stayed up for it...just learned school has been cancelled for tomorrow
22:09:42 Jin_Kaps 1: School lets out at 2:45
22:09:51 SusanEttenheim 1: wow dbragg - snow?
22:10:03 SusanEttenheim 1: hi elizabeth l
22:10:05 SusanEttenheim 1: welcome
22:10:12 SusanEttenheim 1: we're just finishing up for tonight
22:10:16 SusanEttenheim 1: but welcome!
22:10:24 DBragg 1: yes 16" in the forecast - nothing falling yet
22:10:27 ElizabethL 1: sorry!  I had Idol and YA Lit chat, too!
22:10:30 SusanEttenheim 1: so jin - would people be able to get online and join us?
22:10:40 SusanEttenheim 1: where is that again - PA?
22:11:08 Jin_Kaps 1: Hmm... it's possible.  Have to talk it over with Mr. H and getting out of last block a little early.
22:11:12 SusanEttenheim 1: Elizabeth - please introduce yourself! Where and what do you teach?
22:11:16 Jin_Kaps 1: I'd love to do it, though.
22:11:30 DBragg 1: Yes - come out the Holland tunnel and head east to PA.  Just over the NJ/PA border
22:11:47 SusanEttenheim 1: we are doing an event with  her and the person who was the voice of ash on pokeman
22:11:50 carolteach4 1: @Susan - so sorry I missed the show on Jan 27 on copyright - looking forward to listening to the archive.
22:11:51 SusanEttenheim 1: and then a group show
22:12:04 SusanEttenheim 1: then an author visit on the 24th
22:12:09 Jin_Kaps 1: Wow cool
22:12:12 ElizabethL 1: I am the publisher of Egmont USA in NYC.  I am a friend of Paul's and am always VERY interested to listen to educators
22:12:22 SusanEttenheim 1: welcome tonight!
22:13:08 SusanEttenheim 1: thank you tyler and jin for joining us too!
22:13:29 Joel Malley 1: yeah, this has been great.  Tons of food for thought
22:13:31 Jin_Kaps 1: Thank you too! This was very interesting, I'm glad to be a part of it.
22:13:52 SusanEttenheim 1: stop by youthvoices.net and say hello anytime!
22:14:00 carolteach4 1: Teachers Teaching Teachers is sort of like "home" for us, as well.
22:14:21 ElizabethL 1: I'm going to bookmark this.
22:14:28 Tyler Spencer 1: Thank you guys so much for allowing us the time to give some insight into our RAW INcK
22:14:28 SusanEttenheim 1: jin and tyler are you gamers?
22:14:33 Tyler Spencer 1: IM A GAMER!
22:14:39 Tyler Spencer 1: I logged of my game to log into chat tonight
22:14:44 SusanEttenheim 1: please join us!
22:14:53 Tyler Spencer 1: Id love to
22:14:56 Jin_Kaps 1: Haha, I'm a casual gamer. Guitar Hero!
22:14:58 Paul W. Hankins 1: The webcast will be posted as a podcast soon, Elizabeth! We gave Egmont USA some love. . .
22:14:59 Tyler Spencer 1: should i promote this on the inck ?
22:15:01 SusanEttenheim 1: check out youthvoices.net/gaming that's what we're starting
22:15:15 Jin_Kaps 1: Definitely checking that out.
22:15:33 ElizabethL 1: Thanks, Paul.  Let me know when I can listen to the podcast.  I love learning from educators, and I need it!
22:15:57 SusanEttenheim 1: thanks everyone - goodnight and let's stay in touch!
22:16:00 DBragg 1: nite
22:16:03 Tyler Spencer 1: Goodnight
22:16:08 Jin_Kaps 1: Thanks again! Goodnight
22:16:13 Tyler Spencer 1: Jin, H, over at the inck please.