Teachers Teaching Teachers #170 - Troy Hicks and The Digital Writing Workshop - Part 1 of 3 - Choice and Inquiry - 09.30.09

Post-Show description: 

This is the first of a three-part series, guest-hosted by Troy Hick, author of the new Heinemann title, The Digital Writing Workshop, and Director of the Chippewa River Writing Project at Central Michigan University.  In this series, we will be exploring the principles and practices described in Troy's book. For this first episode, Troy welcomed three teachers (along with Paul Allison and Susan Ettenheim) to the conversation, and they discuss how they foster student choice and inquiry in their writing classrooms:

Penny Kittle, Kennett High School in New Hampshire will offer perspectives on writing workshop principles and why we need to begin to focus on digital writing

Sara Beauchamp-Hicks, formerly of Negaunee High School in Michigan will discuss her use of wikis and Google Docs to spur student inquiry

Chris Sloan of Judge Memorial High School in Salt Lake City will share insights on how students can make choices with RSS readers and blogging

Next week, on October 7th, Troy and his guests will explore the idea of “author’s craft” as it relates to creating digital texts. On October 14th, Troy will lead a discussion on the process of conferring and response to student writers as they create digital texts. We would invite you to join us on Wednesday at http://EdTechTalk.com/live at 9:00pm Eastern / 6:00pm Pacific USA Wednesdays / 01:00 UTC Thursdays World Times.

Join The Digital Writing Workshop Ning.


Click Read more to see a transcript of a chat that was happening during the webcast.

20:36:18 kdveiten: How do I tune in to Teachers Talking to Teachers in 24 min.?
20:36:23 SusanEttenheim: hi everyone - be back in 10 minutes
20:36:31 SusanEttenheim: oh just go to edtechtalk.com
20:36:35 SusanEttenheim: and click on listen
20:36:41 SusanEttenheim: you won't hear anything yet
20:36:54 SusanEttenheim: be glad to help you when I get back - going to grab a quick supper!
20:36:58 kdveiten: thanks
20:47:18 Paul Allison: Hello!
20:47:28 Greg Lumb: Hello
20:48:12 Paul Allison: On tonight's show: http://paulallison.tumblr.com/post/200597524/teachers-teaching-teachers-...
20:48:41 Greg Lumb: Tell me more, I'm new at this.
20:48:46 shantijb: hello
20:49:17 Greg Lumb: what's tonight' s show?
20:50:22 Paul Allison: Hi Greg... and others. We've invited the author of a new book and 4 teachers he features in that book to join us. Troy Hicks, The Digital Writing Workshop: http://paulallison.tumblr.com/post/200597524/teachers-teaching-teachers-...
20:50:41 Paul Allison: We'll start in about 10 minutes.
20:51:05 Greg Lumb: Thanks Paul.  I will try and check back in.
20:56:22 Paul Allison: Welcome all!
20:56:42 mhennessy: I'm trying to find the 9pm Teachers Teaching Teachers webcast. Can anyone tell me where to access it? Thanks.
20:57:22 shantijb: I'm looking for Teachers Training Teachers too.
20:57:29 bak5: I am also!
20:57:43 lh: me too.
20:57:56 lisanatwick: me too
20:58:38 SusanEttenheim: hi everyone - welcome! can you all hear ok?
20:58:52 shantijb: no
20:58:54 lisanatwick: no
20:59:02 tbbrad: no
20:59:09 bak5: not here
20:59:10 SusanEttenheim: have you clicked the listen icon?
20:59:15 mhennessy: no - and is this the teachers teaching teachers webcast?
20:59:22 SusanEttenheim: this link to participate brings you to the chat room
20:59:30 shantijb: I'm in!
20:59:32 lisanatwick: i hear the digital welcome voice but nothing else
20:59:35 SusanEttenheim: now you need to click the listen icon and the volume icon
20:59:38 SusanEttenheim: to get sound
20:59:42 SusanEttenheim: edtechtalk A
20:59:45 SusanEttenheim: please
21:00:08 SusanEttenheim: can you hear us now?
21:00:16 bak5: no
21:00:21 shantijb: yes
21:00:24 SusanEttenheim: bak5 how are you listening?
21:00:30 SusanEttenheim: thank you shantijb
21:00:32 bak5: where are those icons
21:00:36 lisanatwick: no
21:00:41 SusanEttenheim: on the upper right of the screen
21:00:48 SusanEttenheim: hi everyone welcome!
21:00:51 bak5: OH.....I hear "welcome"
21:00:57 SusanEttenheim: you need to click the volume icon to hear
21:01:06 lh: To listen to the chat click on the windows play icon under Ed GTechTalk A on the right hand side of the window
21:01:10 SusanEttenheim: we welcome you to participate here and to listen at the same time!
21:01:22 SusanEttenheim: how many people can hear now
21:01:24 SusanEttenheim: ?
21:01:31 SusanEttenheim: we can start now or wait a minute
21:01:39 Paul Allison: http://paulallison.tumblr.com/post/200597524/teachers-teaching-teachers-...
21:01:45 jasonK: i can hear
21:01:49 bak5: I am on a Mac and do not see the icon
21:01:54 shantijb: i can hear
21:01:56 SusanEttenheim: upper right corner back
21:01:57 capalene: can hear
21:02:00 mk1918: can hear
21:02:01 lisanatwick: mac user here no icon
21:02:02 lh: I can hear
21:02:17 SusanEttenheim: ok  everyone so we'll help everyone who can't hear yet
21:02:20 shantijb: I am a Mac user and and listening through iTunes
21:02:23 SusanEttenheim: just speak up!
21:02:31 SusanEttenheim: yes most listen through itunes
21:02:33 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: Hello everyone!
21:02:38 mhennessy: I can hear you
21:02:39 Grace: I can hear you
21:02:47 kdveiten: I'm listening through itunes.
21:02:49 lh: yes!
21:02:51 SusanEttenheim: thanks grace
21:02:56 SusanEttenheim: who is having trouble?
21:03:12 mhennessy: is there supposed to be video?
21:03:32 SusanEttenheim: welcome everyone!
21:03:32 shostetler: I'm not sure what to do to view the Teachers Teaching Teachers program.
21:03:39 bak5: I don't know how to get to hear it on iTunes
21:03:49 SusanEttenheim: please don't be overwhelmed - the chat may go fast tonight with so many people here!
21:04:02 SusanEttenheim: shostetler just click on the volume icon to hear
21:04:11 bentan14: should i be seeing or hearing something
21:04:14 SusanEttenheim: bak5 just click on the volume icon
21:04:17 Cathy E: @shostetler you can hear the audio here:  http://edtechtalk.com/stream1.asx
21:04:24 SusanEttenheim: yes, you should be hearing
21:04:29 SusanEttenheim: we do not do video
21:04:35 SusanEttenheim: thanks cathy!
21:04:44 bentan14: thank you
21:04:54 shostetler: I can hear it now, thank you!
21:04:58 SusanEttenheim: you should all be hearing audio too - how are you doing?
21:05:01 demacisaac: anyone else not hearing?
21:05:05 SusanEttenheim: great shostetler!
21:05:15 SusanEttenheim: are you not hearing demacisaac?
21:05:18 shostetler: All I've heard so far is Welcome... should I hear more?
21:05:22 SusanEttenheim: yes
21:05:29 demacisaac: no this happened to me last sunday too
21:05:31 SusanEttenheim: you should hear multiple people talking
21:05:41 SusanEttenheim: what are you using to listen?
21:05:46 shostetler: I'm not... unfortunately...
21:05:48 demacisaac: vista
21:05:54 Cathy E: @ shostetler click the speaker icon at the bottom of the chat window (you what that off)
21:05:56 SusanEttenheim: is everyone else hearing multiple people?
21:06:09 capalene: I am hearing multiple people.
21:06:10 demacisaac: explorer
21:06:16 SusanEttenheim: thanks again cathy!
21:06:20 Grace: I am using windows media player to listen
21:06:22 SusanEttenheim: good
21:06:23 shantijb: I can hear all of you.
21:06:28 shostetler: I clicked on Media player... I can hear a man talking right now...
21:06:29 SusanEttenheim: great thank you
21:06:35 bak5: I do not hear multiple people talking and not sure if I am hitting the right button. 
21:06:36 SusanEttenheim: yes - good!
21:06:45 Cathy E: audio:  http://edtechtalk.com/stream1.asx
21:06:50 SusanEttenheim: we will keep helping people! don't give up if you need help!
21:07:04 mekuter: thank you for the listening link!
21:07:46 bak5: I am LOST
21:07:50 SusanEttenheim: ok there are many people here tonight but I'd still like to do our usual introductions - would you all please introduce yourself - where and whwhat do you teach?
21:07:56 lisanatwick: i still hear nothing  clicking links launching "anyvideconverter"  :(
21:08:00 SusanEttenheim: bak hang inthere we'll help you!
21:08:11 SusanEttenheim: hang in there lisa
21:08:14 bak5: I copied and pasted the site given...still loading
21:08:19 demacisaac: cathy e that link is not working for me. Comes up as error
21:08:34 SusanEttenheim: on the edtechtalk site, click on edtechtalk A please
21:08:34 shostetler: I just clicked on the Ed Tech Talk A located in the upper right hand corner...
21:08:40 SusanEttenheim: everyone - if you can't hear
21:08:55 capalene: I am an elementary writing coach.  I would for Greenville Public Schools in Greenville, MI.  Troy is going to be working with our secondary folks this year.
21:08:58 shantijb: I'm a Librar Media Specialist and Instructional Technology Leader at a small urban public school in Milwaukee, WI.  I'm Jackie
21:09:00 SusanEttenheim: anyway, I'm Susan and I teach at Eleanor Roosevelt HS in NYC - where and what do you all teach?
21:09:18 mguerreiro: Meg - 4th grade - School District of Philadelphia
21:09:22 capalene: my name is Capalene btw
21:09:22 lisanatwick: so i need to have 2 windows open .. this one and a different one for edtechtalk A??
21:09:24 shostetler: My name is Stacey (shostetler) I am a second grade teacher in a rural school. 
21:09:44 mekuter: <-- Mary- I teach k-8 music at a Catholic school in Dallas, TX
21:09:47 shostetler: I teach at West Beaver in central PA.
21:09:50 bentan14: i teach 7/8th grad math
21:09:51 beccabran: I'm Breanne, a middle school English teacher from Pottsville, PA.
21:09:54 mhennessy: Maggie - I teach secondary history in Philly
21:09:59 jboushehry: I am Julie and teach 4/5 looping class in Indianapolis, IN.
21:10:05 Grace: I teach college level computer classes near Pittsburgh, PA
21:10:09 bak5: I teach 4th grade in Lancaster, PA
21:10:20 bak5: I am finally hearing it! 
21:10:20 jasonK: I teach HS Business in Northeast PA
21:10:25 smurchie: Sharon Murchie, Bath High School.  I'm supposed to be one of the participants speaking next week, so I'm trying to see how this all works!
21:10:31 lh: I'm Lauren and I teach 7th grade writing in a computer/tech  lab in NJ
21:10:36 Troy Hicks: Hi Sharon!
21:10:40 shostetler: Is there anyone here due to the Wilkes University Class requirements?
21:10:45 mvalia: Matthew Valia - computer - English teacher at Berta Dreyfus IS 49 in Staten Island
21:10:48 liptonjl: I am sorry- Is this "Teachers Teaching Teachers?"
21:10:50 jboushehry: I am here for Wilkes
21:10:50 smurchie: Hey Troy. I got this far.  That's good, right?
21:10:53 bentan14: yes i am doing this for wilkes
21:10:55 mekuter: <--wilkes class
21:10:56 liptonjl: I am here for Wilkes too
21:10:59 beccabran: Yes, I am here for Wilkes
21:10:59 mguerreiro: wilkes
21:11:00 shantijb: I am a Wilkes student.
21:11:00 jasonK: Wilkes for me too
21:11:08 Troy Hicks: Sharon -- this is great! Glad you could join us this week, and next!
21:11:08 bentan14: what are we supposed to do for wilkes
21:11:27 shostetler: WOW, so many from Wilkes... *)
21:11:35 SusanEttenheim: this chat will all be published so don't worry if you have trouble catching it all tonight!
21:11:51 Grace: Wilkes
21:11:52 SusanEttenheim: and the audio will be published at edtechtalk.com and teachersteachingteachers.org
21:11:57 liptonjl: is this "Teachers Teaching Teachers"? or am I in the wrong place
21:12:07 beccabran: Right place.
21:12:10 lnatwick: Lisa Natwick - wilkes instructional media student  teach high school computer tech classes - obviously i am soooo uninformed  
21:12:11 liptonjl: fantastic
21:12:18 SusanEttenheim: to the teacher from Milwaukee - which school? :)
21:12:29 shantijb: Barton Elementary
21:12:34 mekuter: Glad to see we are all in the same boat here!
21:12:39 SusanEttenheim: no such thing here lnatwick!
21:12:50 Troy Hicks: Hi Everyone from Wilkes!
21:12:53 SusanEttenheim: [patdilo] Hi all... I teach in the Bergenfield Public Schools middle school, NJ
21:13:11 SusanEttenheim: welcome everyone!
21:13:11 Grace: Hi Troy
21:13:23 Grace: Hi Susan
21:13:28 SusanEttenheim: my sister in law and family - in milwaukee!
21:13:33 Troy Hicks: Hope that everyone is also able to join the Digital Writing Workshop ning: http://digitalwritingworkshop.ning.com/
21:13:42 tbbrad: Hello.  I teach at James Buchanan Middle School in Mercersburg, PA
21:13:49 SusanEttenheim: how is everyone doing now? ok with sound?
21:13:55 beccabran: I student taught at the middle school!
21:14:06 beccabran: Small world
21:14:13 tbbrad: Where are you now?
21:14:15 shostetler: Doing great so far! Thanks
21:14:16 SusanEttenheim: always!
21:14:18 demacisaac: no sound yet
21:14:21 Greg Lumb: I'm not getting sound yet??
21:14:26 SusanEttenheim: anyone still need help??
21:14:36 SusanEttenheim: ok greg we'll fix your sound!
21:14:40 beccabran: tbbrad,  I am teaching in Pottsville, PA.  I am loving it.
21:14:43 lnatwick: opened a new window that brought back the icons you were talking about
21:14:44 SusanEttenheim: click on edtechtalk A please
21:14:49 beccabran: What subject do you teach?
21:14:49 SusanEttenheim: if you don't have sound yet
21:15:05 tbbrad: 8th Grade Science
21:15:17 tbbrad: Who did you student teach with?
21:15:26 SusanEttenheim: ok- so now more than tech talk!
21:15:35 SusanEttenheim: have you all seen this book?
21:15:49 bak5: Tell me the book again?
21:15:58 Paul Allison: http://hickstro.org/
21:15:59 lnatwick: never seen this book
21:16:07 Paul Allison: http://heinemann.com/products/E02674.aspx
21:16:19 bak5: I am not "seeing anything"
21:16:22 SusanEttenheim: thanks paul!
21:16:40 beccabran: I am blanking on her name, which is horrible.  It was 8th grade English
21:16:42 SusanEttenheim: what do you mean bak?
21:17:08 tbbrad: Eddleman
21:17:12 SusanEttenheim: you should just be hearing and seeing this chat - we don't do video... all ok?
21:17:19 bak5: I am sorry...I am confused at what book you are asking what we have seen
21:17:36 Paul Allison: http://heinemann.com/products/E02674.aspx
21:17:40 demacisaac: I'm not sure what else to try to get audio?
21:17:44 SusanEttenheim: ahh bak - we are talking about Troy Hicks new book
21:17:58 SusanEttenheim: demac... click on the edtechtalk A icon
21:18:09 SusanEttenheim: hi student... welcome
21:18:24 studentedtech: Thank you!
21:18:24 SusanEttenheim: hi jenny please introduce yourself!
21:18:34 demacisaac: i clicked icon at top of page, nothing happened
21:18:35 SusanEttenheim: whre and what do you teach if you have just joined us?
21:18:38 mekuter: I have not seen this book before.
21:19:02 jenny brandon: I've been listening the whole time, the chat has blipped out------ I teach 2nd grade in West TN and 6-8 after school
21:19:08 Greg Lumb: Principal at Ft. Riley KS K/5
21:19:22 studentedtech: I am a fourth grade teacher in the Pocono Moutains of PA
21:19:33 Kathleen W: I teach learning support in Allentown, PA
21:19:43 studentedtech: Hi Neighbor!
21:19:50 SusanEttenheim: what a big crowd tonight!
21:19:55 SusanEttenheim: how did you all find us?
21:20:05 bak5: Wilkes Class requirement
21:20:08 bentan14: Wilkes
21:20:11 Kathleen W: Same
21:20:14 tbbrad: ditto
21:20:14 shantijb: Ditto
21:20:15 shostetler: The Wilkes group got this from a prof.
21:20:15 lnatwick: assignment due friday  wilkes
21:20:16 capalene: i'm a nwp fan on facebook and saw the announcement there.
21:20:19 jenny brandon: AUDIENCE - that's what I'm promoting with my 6-8 graders
21:20:19 mekuter: wilkes class assignment
21:20:29 Grace: wilkes assignment
21:20:31 studentedtech: I am trying to log into the Taechers Teaching Teachers  Yes, Wilkes Assignment!
21:20:37 Troy Hicks: Curious to hear from Wilkes students -- what is your assignment?
21:20:41 Greg Lumb: Ed Tech member just looking for super ed conversation
21:20:56 SusanEttenheim: great greg welcome and to everyone welcome!
21:21:01 lnatwick: attend a webcast offered on ed tech talk  not many this week so here we are
21:21:01 SusanEttenheim: what is Wilkes?
21:21:04 Greg Lumb: thanks
21:21:13 tbbrad: My fellow 8th grade english teacher uses the writers workshop in his classroom.  I will pass on this info with him as well!
21:21:17 studentedtech: Technology class asignment to attend webcast
21:21:27 jasonK: Wilkes is a University in PA
21:21:29 jenny brandon: I use it with my 2nd graders
21:21:34 SusanEttenheim: our topics vary - tonight troy is leading the conversation
21:21:36 shostetler: Wilkes- We need to participate in a webcast... we also had to create our own broadcast, webcast
21:21:39 mekuter: part of understanding how broadcasting and webcasting can be beneficial
21:21:40 SusanEttenheim: ahh that's what I thought!
21:21:41 Paul Allison: Has anybody here done "writer's workshop"? whatever that is.
21:22:03 shostetler: jenny brandon where are you at, I also teach 2nd grade, in McClure, PA
21:22:03 jenny brandon: you're kidding aren't you paul
21:22:07 shantijb: My district is 6 traits
21:22:26 lnatwick: i have had limited training on it and have a basic 1st book i refer to in my business ed classes
21:22:49 SusanEttenheim: ok speak up! writer's workshop participants???
21:22:50 jenny brandon: Ripley, TN - I can almost see the Mississippi from my house
21:23:04 shostetler: That's cool!
21:23:15 lnatwick: is the place your students can post "private" or is it on the "open" internet
21:23:15 carolteach4: Yeah for Wilkes professor introducing so many students to live webcast- NPR had a piece this afternoon on how behind the times teacher prep schools are and the great disconnedt that exists between what is being taught and the reality new teachers meet in the classroom
21:23:29 carolteach4: disconnect
21:23:32 jasonK: I have no background on that
21:23:41 jenny brandon: true true
21:23:46 SusanEttenheim: wow carol.. hi!! and welcome!
21:23:57 SusanEttenheim: quite a crew tonight - right?
21:24:20 SusanEttenheim: so please join in troy's conversation here... are you "doing" the writing process???
21:24:22 capalene: My position right now is to assist with professional development in writer's workshop in our school district.  This is the first time our school district is using writer's workshop district wide at the elementary level
21:24:55 capalene: i love the distinction that kwr makes at the beginning of writer's workshop book
21:24:56 mekuter: Would someone through the book link out again please?
21:24:59 SusanEttenheim: capalene - if you or anyone else has a question/ please post here and we will interrupt and ask our panel!
21:25:02 shostetler: We do the writing process in 2nd grade... I even have a simple ditty that I teach my students to remember the steps.
21:25:10 carolteach4: Hi, Susan - so happy to see other folk being introduced to these wonderful online professional development pieces even if it came through an assignment. I hope they like what they are hearing as see the value in it.
21:25:12 SusanEttenheim: what is your ditty??
21:25:20 bentan14: i never use the writing process i just start typing and work from there
21:25:20 jenny brandon: my 2nd graders are picking up pencils, writing down their thoughts and ideas, sharing, asking each other questions about their writing and adding to what they wrote
21:25:30 jenny brandon: nope I have not used the e-word (editing)
21:25:35 tbbrad: How  http://hickstro.org/
21:25:38 SusanEttenheim: carol - you are such a veteran now! pls help mewelcome everyone!
21:25:44 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: http://www.heinemann.com/products/E02674.aspx
21:25:48 mekuter: thank you!
21:25:57 SusanEttenheim: thank you sara!
21:26:01 capalene: EXACTLY!! using versus doing the process is what my teachers are still getting a handle around
21:26:09 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: Please joing the Ning too! http://digitalwritingworkshop.ning.com/
21:26:18 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: You're welcome, Susan!
21:26:36 jenny brandon: We'll GET to the 'process' -- right now we're being writers
21:26:48 SusanEttenheim: some of the logging in and out is when people get bumped out of the chat - if that happens just come back!
21:26:59 lnatwick: thanks  i am trying to get that setup  so we can have opportunity for more collaboration.  been encouraged way too much through wilkes for public places  which bothers me
21:27:00 SusanEttenheim: say more jenny?
21:27:26 SusanEttenheim: lnatwick what do you mean by public places?
21:27:33 shostetler: I have some motions that I point to my head for brainstorming and tell the students that I'm thinking, putting my thoughts together... drafting (pretend I'm writing on a clip board) writing it all down... revising... does it make sense? (I point to my head like I'm questioning)
21:27:38 SusanEttenheim: chris is talking about youthvoices.net
21:28:22 SusanEttenheim: and a conversation that spanned salt lake city and new york city
21:28:25 lnatwick: encouraged to have websites for classrooms and not much mentioned about privacy issues that many of us have to deal with
21:28:36 lh: I want my students to blog and respond to each other's work on the internet and computer.  If this is an open deocument and every-changing, I wonder about the liability as a middle school teacher.  If students post outside of the classroom, cyber bullying...Does anyone have expereince with this or have any advice?
21:28:37 SusanEttenheim: ahh what age lnatwick?
21:28:45 jenny brandon: We've talked a little bit about going back and re-reading what we wrote - that's my opening - We do that so we can read what we wrote better - that's when I ask them to circle words they think they might have incorrect
21:29:08 jenny brandon: Once they start re-reading what they wrote
21:29:10 carolteach4: I listened to a live Elluminate webinar led by Adora Svitak (ll year old girl who has been blogging for years) giving teachers a "A Kid's Eye View of an Innovative Classroom". She was amazing and modeled writing a piece by using input from all of us-said kids love to participate in collaborative writing.
21:29:12 shostetler: then editing I tell the students check for punctuation, check for capital letters, check for spelling (I pretend to check off a list) and then publishing (looks like I"m carrying a stack of books) I say that I am making copies and presentation (girls primp their hair and boys smell themselves) the kids love this part and they say making it look good and sharing with others...
21:29:13 jenny brandon: they begin to see the errors
21:29:17 Troy Hicks: Katie's post: http://youthvoices.net/node/2874
21:29:19 SusanEttenheim: what are you reactions to the story chris is sharing?
21:29:28 smurchie: If you are using googledocs, the only collaboration is between you and the student, when they share their document with you.  Other students can't "bully" if they're not a collaborator on the document.
21:29:43 lnatwick: seems to be all levels.  my district bascially said - even at high school = you cant have site unless it is restricted access and moderated.  Seems so many have really "open" sites even in grade school
21:29:55 SusanEttenheim: thanks troy - troy put the link to the post being discussed
21:30:30 capalene: i just learned googledocs in a master's class last year. i think it would work well with students but haven't had the opportunity to think it through.  working with elementary students now..it's a whole other world
21:30:43 SusanEttenheim: do you have experiences where you feel the tone has changed because of digital writing?
21:30:44 bentan14: googledocs is a great way to control who collaborates with who but you have to have each student create a google account if they don't have one
21:31:00 smurchie: I also use nicenet.org which is an oldschool discussion board...very safe, very simple.  No anonymous bullying as long as you are forcing students to use their real names.
21:31:07 capalene: right and in our district students are not allowed to have email access
21:31:10 shostetler: I have not done a lot with googledocs with my studentsj.
21:31:18 smurchie: googledocs rocks.
21:31:24 Troy Hicks: Writing workshop teaching requires that we build community so writers trust one another -- how does what happened to Katie in Youth Voices represent this idea?
21:31:38 mekuter: I've started my 6th and 7th grade music classes working in Edmodo. It has worked well for us.
21:31:42 SusanEttenheim: bentan - it's easy if your school becomes a google apps school
21:31:52 lnatwick: we have no email access or google docs access for students
21:32:04 capalene: hmmm..google apps school..would like to find out more about this
21:32:04 SusanEttenheim: what is edmodo?
21:32:08 bentan14: how do i make my school a google apps school?
21:32:08 shostetler: Our school has very limited access to web tools including e-mail
21:32:10 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: inatwick--then you have to open up discussion...and keep talking
21:32:13 jenny brandon: phew!  thought i lost the sound
21:32:24 carolteach4: @bentan14 - we have gone with google apps for education - teacher/administrator can upload a whole class of students at a time and control access for safety feature.
21:32:27 jenny brandon: edmodo is microblogging for education
21:32:28 lnatwick: of 18 sites mentioned for collaboration in one wilkes class - all were blocked by my district
21:32:30 SusanEttenheim: just go to google and google apps for education
21:32:34 lh: thanks smurchie.  If students are only sharing with the teacher then yes we don;t have to be concerned. but if students have each others as collaborators so they can peer edit
21:32:39 mekuter: edmodo- kind of like facebook for the classroom. I have complete control. Private and kids do not need an email account
21:32:46 SusanEttenheim: carol do you have the link handy?
21:33:12 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: http://www.edmodo.com/
21:33:19 jenny brandon: keep losing audio
21:33:21 SusanEttenheim: lnatwick - have you asked? sometimes we find it's actually easy to  have sites unblocked but you just have to ask
21:33:34 shantijb: My district has a student learning community in Moodle. Lots of opportunity to collaborate..but safe.
21:33:37 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/edu/
21:33:48 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: Google Apps for Education
21:34:00 SusanEttenheim: thanks sara!
21:34:07 Troy Hicks: lnatwick -- or, if you set up a particular domain within a collabortive site. Rather than wikispaces.com, for instance, you can ask for only your wiki, such as hickstro.wikispaces.com
21:34:11 smurchie: Yes, if students share with each other, they can peer edit.  But as long as you are also a collaborator, you can revert to an earlier draft at any time.  So, you can control the conversation or step in if necessary.  This is regarding googledocs.
21:34:13 carolteach4: http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/edu/index.html#utm_campaign=en&utm_...
21:34:19 bentan14: thank you
21:34:24 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: We used this at Negaunee High School in the UP and it worked well...kids got their email in 9th grade and kept it through HS
21:34:31 lnatwick: yep i asked last sprng - answer was too open atm  and no funds for other options
21:34:45 lh: thank you
21:34:46 SusanEttenheim: what do you all see as the difference and value of online within a class and then outside your class - as our panelists are describing..
21:35:07 smurchie: We are a googleaps school.  So, the kids don't have real e-mail addresses...their googleaps login is a fake.  The kids don't need e-mail access to access googledocs.
21:35:35 shostetler: It would be great to have that kind of access... those with googledocs.
21:35:36 lnatwick: i did get a clearance for ning site i made last week  so finally now i can get a community going
21:35:50 demacisaac: Hey finally have audio,,,this is a long story and hidden icons! :D anyone else with out audio?
21:35:50 mahlness: about comments, teaching commenting, etc... in the classblogmeister community, it's known as Comment Love :)
21:36:22 mekuter: online within a class is a great intro to interacting with their fellow students but online to the world gives them real world connections.
21:36:35 liptonjl: how do we get audio?
21:36:39 carolteach4: We did not have email before google apps for education for our kids; however, we limit their email to other members of our own school domain. It's for safety reasons.
21:36:40 SusanEttenheim: mekuter - do you have an example?
21:36:52 jenny brandon: it is our job as educators to teach the kids safety, what's appropriate, what's true/false believable -- how can we do that if we can't get online!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:37:02 SusanEttenheim: lip.. click on edtechtalk A
21:37:15 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: This is a great link for teaching "commenting" from Youth Voices. http://www.youthvoices.net/node/22555
21:37:20 shostetler: if your students are taught rules to internet use and working online with the world then they can experience the real world issues much more safely... although its still an issue of their safety as well...
21:37:22 mekuter: my world and your world are not the same and my feelings on a topic could be drastically different based on my experiences.
21:37:23 SusanEttenheim: jenny do you know who to ask to unblock?
21:37:24 Troy Hicks: Jenny -- show your admins some powerful examples, like Youth Voices
21:37:26 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: It is very helpful.
21:37:48 jenny brandon: I'm workin' at it, I'm workin' at it!
21:37:49 Troy Hicks: I have had a number of teachers who, after a PD session, went back to their admins and simply asked
21:37:55 Troy Hicks: Not to say that it is easy
21:38:00 Troy Hicks: And sometimes it takes awhile
21:38:15 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: It is about always keeping the discussion open...moving forward...but the important thing is to keep talking.
21:38:19 capalene: there is something to say about the Internet feeling "less safe" because of the media hype with cyber stalkers and the like.  I agree that it's not any less safe than anywhere else, parent perception of what might happen is another story.  It seems like it's out of the district's control.
21:38:22 jenny brandon: I've got more freedom in the afterschool program and hoping to prove the value of online
21:38:42 demacisaac: lipton click on search edtechtalk and hopefully you'll see new options on right side. Click on real player option under techtalk A. hope this helps
21:38:45 lnatwick: oh I soo like thoseguys form sudan  near san diego and we had them at church
21:39:15 Troy Hicks: But if they can see examples of positive student communities online, then admins are more likely to agree
21:39:20 jenny brandon: EXACTLY!
21:39:38 jenny brandon: POSITIVE EXAMPLES OF STUDENT USE!
21:39:49 shantijb: I saw the documentry. It was great. Boys from Sudan
21:40:10 mekuter: Very true! There are so many positive things happening. It just doesn't get the press.
21:40:10 liptonjl: thank you.
21:40:13 SusanEttenheim: yeah! patdilo you are in!
21:40:24 Penny Kittle: They were so inspiring... their stories were funny and poignant and wise. What an opportunity for our rural NH kids.
21:40:24 abrooks: We could also try to get the administrators involved in the same type of projects.  Let them get experience with it.
21:40:45 patdilo: I'm finally able to acknowledge in the chat room!
21:40:48 lnatwick: how is it that students seem to forget from year to year???
21:40:56 mekuter: @abrooks That might be the key. They need to do it for themselves.
21:41:20 demacisaac: lip.... did it work
21:41:41 patdilo: She needs to speak louder
21:41:45 lh: Hi Pat its lauren. So happy you got on
21:41:49 jenny brandon: ning used to be blocked at my school and now not!
21:41:51 lnatwick: love the idea that they can't claim they "never" did that kind of writing
21:42:08 patdilo: I've been here all along, just couldn't acknowledge chat
21:42:09 mhennessy: It's just about impossible to get sites unblocked in Philly!!
21:42:14 liptonjl: no dema, it's not allowing me :(
21:42:22 Troy Hicks: Sara's censorship site: http://nhsenglish9.wikispaces.com/Censorship+Activity
21:42:34 lnatwick: yes that is how I got the ning opened... it's a start
21:42:34 liptonjl: oops i got it
21:42:36 abrooks: our school is finally going to unblock certain sites for teachers!  Students and teachers have a different set of rules for filtering
21:42:37 liptonjl: yay!
21:42:48 SusanEttenheim: so many wonderful links now!
21:42:51 Cathy E: I love wikispaces
21:42:59 SusanEttenheim: don't worry they will all be in the show notes!
21:43:07 Penny Kittle: I took Dan Beatty's "Knock Knock" slam poem to a meeting to show them why I needed You Tube unblocked in my room. Since then, they've given all teachers access to You Tube. I agree we have to be convincing.. show the value and keep pressing.
21:43:41 jenny brandon: zamzar's my best friend!
21:43:55 SusanEttenheim: I overheard the most wonderful conversation today between two 14 yr olds
21:43:57 demacisaac: lip click on "participate live" under "search edtechtalk"
21:44:02 mahlness: not necessarily easy for some tech depts to unblock just one wikispace - much more complicated than it should be...
21:44:09 jenny brandon: do tell susan
21:44:11 liptonjl: i had to use windows media player, real player was not working
21:44:21 SusanEttenheim: they were looking at a site and discussing whether a user was a "stalker" and looking at all the possible signs
21:44:22 demacisaac: :D
21:44:35 SusanEttenheim: and it was such a small site - no one would even think to block it!
21:44:39 Troy Hicks: @mahlness - Agreed. But, could the district agree to private hosting through a service like Wikispaces?
21:44:43 abrooks:  a lot of times the ones in charge are just going with whatever is already being blocked by the filter service they use and don't realize what tchrs need.  There does need to be a procedure in place.
21:45:16 smurchie: Thank you for saying that, Sara.  Teachers have to keep talking, and continually advocating for themselves and their students and the technology we need.   The tech guys and the school admin are trying to do what's best for kids; we have to make the noise and show the POSITIVE EXAMPLES and what our kids are missing out on if we don't have access.
21:45:26 jenny brandon: Isn't there a new agreement between Youtube and Warner Bros as fo TODAY?  Morning Edition this morning?
21:45:56 shostetler: going to the admin can be very difficult partly due to the school board having a lot of power and not even knowing what is useful and positive in the classroom... that's  ahuge struggle in my district
21:45:58 mahlness: @troy - private hosting is going in the wrong direction, imho...
21:46:01 SusanEttenheim: ooh jenny sounds interesting.. does anyone know about that?
21:46:09 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: http://mediaeducationlab.com/digital-learning-and-fair-use-web-20-texts-...
21:46:20 abrooks: Does teachertube strip the sounds?  why not use them?
21:46:29 jenny brandon: dreaming?  hope not
21:46:39 smurchie: Teachertube takes HOURS to load.  I haven't found it reliable.
21:46:47 Penny Kittle: we'll have to try posting to Teachertube. good thought
21:46:53 capalene: i'm sorry folks... gotta log out for tonight.. i'll be back next week.
21:46:55 Penny Kittle: oh... maybe not
21:46:58 jasonK: i use it all the time.
21:47:05 jasonK: loads fine for me
21:47:12 SusanEttenheim: please come back any and all wed 9-10 eastern time!
21:47:13 Grace: I tried using teachertube today and not much luck with it
21:47:33 SusanEttenheim: how are you all doing? anyone overwhelmed by the big crowd tonight?
21:47:37 abrooks: I think it isn't fast during school hours, unfortunately
21:47:39 mekuter: I have had loading issues with Teacher Tube also but it could be my school's server. :-(
21:47:45 jenny brandon: this is a blast!
21:47:46 Troy Hicks: @mahlness I think that you can go "private" with a public site. For instance, MSU's COE has a Wikispace that appears to be hosted on their server: http://www.wiki.educ.msu.edu/
21:47:54 smurchie: It might be our stream.  I've used teachertube, but downloaded the videos to save so I don't have to stream them live.  That works; if I get on teachertube at a crazy hour, I can save the videos for later use.
21:48:10 mahlness: @susan - beats the heck out of the PD I had today!
21:48:11 carolteach4: Wow! That is interesting. I did not know YouTube was doing that. This will be an interesting test of "fair use." I listened to that session with Renee; I don't think we're there yet.
21:48:14 Troy Hicks: Don't know all the details, but I wonder if that model would help the district ease their fears?
21:48:30 jenny brandon: download from youtube and convert to Quicktime via zamzar.com
21:48:43 SusanEttenheim: mahlness ! ha this evening every week keeps me going!
21:48:56 mekuter: if you don't like zamzar try www.keepvid.com
21:49:02 abrooks: Isn't fair use only for that moment of teaching and shouldn't be avaible to all at any time without password protection?
21:49:04 SusanEttenheim: thanks jenny! did everyone get that?
21:49:10 Penny Kittle: I agree about the PD.. this live chatting and connecting with people all over is so much better than much of what passes as PD I'm afraid.
21:49:28 mahlness: @susan lol
21:49:29 carolteach4: @ speaker - does you allow kids to use their Google Apps for Education email to connect with anyone outside the domain????
21:49:46 Penny Kittle: we don't. our google apps is a district only private thingy
21:49:49 SusanEttenheim: we do carol but we're high school
21:50:06 smurchie: our googleaps is district only. The kids can't get out.
21:50:11 SusanEttenheim: we want our students to use it for internships and college
21:50:14 Paul Allison: carol, how would you limit them?
21:50:23 Penny Kittle: although we're allowed to have nings and all that aren't private if we don't want them to be.. and this is high school
21:50:26 abrooks: WAs it easy to get your district to use google apps?
21:50:28 SusanEttenheim: we want them to think of it and practice with it as though it is "work" email
21:50:54 carolteach4: I think that age is the key. Many of our middle school teachers are more comfortable with trying the collaborative google tools as long as a secure, walled community is inplace.
21:51:00 Penny Kittle: Very easy... in our district our tech people offered free workshops on how to use google docs during our PLC time in the morning.
21:51:06 jasonK: Susan...I really like that angle.
21:51:18 jasonK: I'm going to try it tomorrow
21:51:29 abrooks: I am trying that tomorrow
21:51:38 SusanEttenheim: we even have a 9th grade orientation where we say this is "work" and they sign an acceptable use policy
21:51:52 jasonK: That's great!
21:52:01 lnatwick: @susan  I like that idea  been trying to teach my adv. bus stu's outlook but tough without real email - will ask distrct
21:52:01 abrooks: that is important, we all have a work and "play" email
21:52:06 jasonK: What better way to prepare them for their career
21:52:07 SusanEttenheim: and at work, the admin at work can go in anytime - it is not private and we tell them the same thing at school
21:52:08 tbbrad: Our school went to google docs this school year as well.  All students use the google docs apps now instead of microsoft office.
21:52:23 SusanEttenheim: exactly abrooks
21:52:27 jenny brandon: Here's a little irony for you - in our district, some of our TEACHERS are having a hard time distinguishing between what is and is not appropriate in Facebook etc.!
21:52:27 carolteach4: That is exactly the analogy I used with my 7th graders this morning - world of work- in introducing them to our google domain.
21:52:29 liptonjl: I have to get to bed :) This has been fun! I'll be back sometime!  Thanks for the ideas!
21:52:47 Troy Hicks: Thanks, liptonj
21:52:56 Penny Kittle: so I'm not the only one who is usually asleep at 10? Or are all of you on Pacific time?
21:53:03 Troy Hicks: :-)
21:53:09 SusanEttenheim: jenny - are those the same people who are figuring it out in person too?
21:53:12 liptonjl: 7 months pregnant lol
21:53:14 Troy Hicks: Many of us tonight are EST
21:53:16 patdilo: Awake here on the East Coast!
21:53:22 Penny Kittle: Hey... is anyone on from Oregon my home?
21:53:25 carolteach4: EST - got to get up at 5:45am - still, this conversation is worth it.
21:53:25 shostetler: This has been helpful and useful and I hope to be back... my 17 month old son is calling me...
21:53:34 shostetler: liptonjl   good luck
21:53:36 Troy Hicks: Thanks, carolteach4
21:53:42 jenny brandon: No, those are the ones who don't use tech in their classroom, just at HOME!
21:53:50 SusanEttenheim: I'm up at 515 but this is my one late night a week!
21:53:52 demacisaac: I  did censorship of authors in my masters. I'll look for links.
21:53:56 Penny Kittle: yes, great conversation. I appreciate how open you all are.
21:54:03 Ruth: Hi I am from California it is still light out here
21:54:09 jenny brandon: It's night's like this that I'm finally thankful for my newly emptied nest
21:54:14 mahlness: still light outside here in seattle - haha
21:54:23 patdilo: Still here...
21:54:26 Penny Kittle: Seattle!!! I love that city.
21:54:26 SusanEttenheim: please join us wednesdays with your issues and questions - this is meant to be a public working converstation
21:54:28 lnatwick: there was a glich
21:54:49 jenny brandon: it's nearly 9:00 - I usually fall asleep in front of the TV at 7:00!
21:54:51 SusanEttenheim: yes audio glitch but we're ok now
21:55:00 SusanEttenheim: just a hiccup
21:55:04 SusanEttenheim: in the audio
21:55:10 SusanEttenheim: hi sr welcome!
21:55:13 lnatwick: @jenny - yes empty nest helps now  not so much some evenings
21:55:15 jenny brandon: hello
21:55:16 SusanEttenheim: where and what do you teach?
21:55:19 Troy Hicks: Heads up to panelists...
21:55:23 Troy Hicks: ... final question...
21:55:27 mahlness: I love the nobody told me no approach
21:55:33 SusanEttenheim: wow troy time flew tonight!
21:55:44 SusanEttenheim: please everyone - join us online to continue the conversation
21:55:46 jenny brandon: :(
21:55:53 jenny brandon: almost through?
21:55:53 Troy Hicks: ... what is the one essential digital writing tool that you would suggest people try to use with their kids and how does that fit in with a writing workshop approach?
21:55:54 Penny Kittle: No kidding. I wish we could meet for coffee Saturday.
21:55:58 SusanEttenheim: in the blog spaces at edtechtalk.com and teachersteachingteachers.org
21:56:09 tbbrad: Thank you !
21:56:22 jenny brandon: thank you!
21:56:25 jasonK: I have to go as well...Thank you everyone for so much great information...I can't wait to share your program with my colleagues at work.  Goodnight.
21:56:26 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: Penny--We will see you at UPRA next week!
21:56:27 shantijb: thank you:D
21:56:27 carolteach4: Actually, even educators have to pay the $10.00 for the domain name.
21:56:31 mekuter: This was great. I wish I had known about ed tech a long time ago. I will be sure to spread the word to my colleagues!:)
21:56:32 SusanEttenheim: coffee - same time same place penny!
21:56:32 Troy Hicks: http://digitalwritingworkshop.ning.com/
21:56:37 Paul Allison: http://heinemann.com/products/E02674.aspx
21:56:37 mahlness: one essential tool - still the blog
21:56:40 Grace: Thanks for all the great info. Got to go:D
21:56:41 Penny Kittle: yes yes. I'm very excited. I've never been up there!
21:56:46 jenny brandon: I'm a bloggin advocate
21:57:03 patdilo: can we get this in print?
21:57:08 carolteach4: Google docs, presentations, spreadsheets, so much-
21:57:22 SusanEttenheim: patdilo edtechtalk.com and teachersteachingteachers.org
21:57:29 smurchie: I guess, Troy, I would have to say googledocs, for the ability to conference with students one on one, the publishing opportunities, the ease of linking to googlesites and other googleaps, and the peer editing and group project ease.
21:57:32 SusanEttenheim: what's your favorite tool everyone?
21:57:49 patdilo: :D
21:57:57 carolteach4: Yes, our kids have personal gmail accounts, but I told our 7th graders that when they log into our domain, it is "work" -that is school -oriented.
21:58:09 SusanEttenheim: and everyone please also check out all the shows at edtechtalk.com
21:58:15 Penny Kittle: I love making movies. We started with digital commentary and the passion that erupted in the room when students realized all they could do was just amazing... it was a contagious, exhilerating ride. Students saw so quickly all they could do, and yet it was all composition... it's still my favorite.
21:58:17 abrooks: I know this is not what you are talking about but I think the GoogleWave can almost replace google documents for colaboration
21:58:24 Troy Hicks: Chris recommends Youth Voices: http://youthvoices.net (getting students to write and talk with one another)
21:58:29 SusanEttenheim: and I'll also say that I'm a regular listener of Seedlings - do you know that show too?
21:58:45 SusanEttenheim: have you all used Voice Thread?
21:58:48 jenny brandon: I make movies too - just got the einstruction e-mail
21:59:03 SusanEttenheim: oooh google wave.. can't wait to get involved with that!!!
21:59:17 shantijb: I think Voice Thread is wonderful
21:59:23 Troy Hicks: Penny -- digital video commentary that emerges as a composition with their own voice (iMovie)
21:59:27 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: Did they finally send out the Google Wave invites?
21:59:32 carolteach4: I love Youth Voices, but I don't feel comfortable sending 11 and 12 and 13 year old kids there; Many of the topics are mature.
21:59:42 jenny brandon: Voice thread has immediate gratification
21:59:45 Paul Allison: carol?
21:59:48 lnatwick: i think the same thing about youthvoices
21:59:51 SusanEttenheim: sara - I heard this week.. but I'm waiting.. who knows??
21:59:51 Paul Allison: really?
21:59:55 abrooks: Not sure about the google wave invites
22:00:02 carolteach4: Does anyone know how to use Google Apps with Moodle?
22:00:09 Paul Allison: Most of those "mature" topics were written by 12 year olds.
22:00:10 lnatwick: oh  keep at it final cut s awesome
22:00:29 Penny Kittle: I believe you on final cut... i'm just so intimidated!
22:00:33 sr: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/09/30/whats-next-for-google-wave/
22:00:35 carolteach4: Gee, Paul! That is great! I guess I'm just a fraidy cat.
22:00:36 Troy Hicks: Sara suggests: http://www.wikispaces.com/
22:00:53 Paul Allison: I'm always talking about how topics need to be written so that the second graders on Youth Voices will be comfortable.
22:00:53 abrooks: too bad animoto doesn't allow voice commentary
22:01:09 lnatwick: yes paul but when it comes under the school umbrella  my comunity would question my judgement of "taking" their kid there
22:01:23 mekuter: same here lnatwick
22:01:23 Troy Hicks: Paul: using the telephone
22:01:24 carolteach4: In our school, we have gone backwards. We can not publish our school newsletter on line if kids are pictured with names attached.
22:01:29 mhennessy: You can import an Animoto into another video editing program to get your own voice audio...
22:01:30 abrooks: Love wikispaces
22:01:43 mahlness: http://classblogmeister.com - best tool out there for elementary bloggers
22:01:48 jenny brandon: who would believe we'd be encouraging phones?
22:02:06 carolteach4: @inatwick - that's you voiced what I was trying to say.
22:02:19 abrooks: could you also use voki for that?
22:02:34 abrooks: voki for the phone response
22:02:36 lh: Thanks so much for all the great information!  Chat with you next week.
22:02:38 lnatwick: @carol  going throught a similar thing here   someone in community set up a facebook for our school we are now "battling " due to privacy issue
22:02:46 Troy Hicks: http://drop.io/
22:02:46 SusanEttenheim: voki for what abrooks - I've looked at that but not really used it?
22:03:07 demacisaac: i just loked on delicious http://devrexster.googlepages.com/mmk calls itself a portable movie maker. I don't know it but it might be what you're looking for
22:03:11 jenny brandon: I'll be up all NIGHT with these links!
22:03:15 carolteach4: Is there a charge for drop.io?
22:03:30 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: Have fun, Jenny! 
22:03:34 abrooks: Susan you can have voki call you and make your character say what you speak into the phone then embed that into wikispaces
22:03:35 Paul Allison: there are pro accounts... very inexpensive.
22:03:39 SusanEttenheim: don't burn out tonight jenny! there's always more!
22:03:40 jenny brandon: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
22:03:49 SusanEttenheim: ahh
22:03:54 carolteach4: @jenny - that's my problem. I can't do it tonight. I've been up way too late all week.
22:03:56 mekuter: you can embed voki on wikispaces
22:04:25 jenny brandon: Let's all call in nerdy instead of sick
22:04:26 SusanEttenheim: come next wed with your stories and questions!
22:04:32 patdilo: Goodnight all!
22:04:35 lnatwick: lol jenny
22:04:37 SusanEttenheim: that's a good one jenny!
22:04:48 jenny brandon: goodnight and thanks so much!
22:04:57 SusanEttenheim: please join us again everyone!
22:04:59 lnatwick: which week is the vidoe craft one?
22:05:07 Paul Allison: http://heinemann.com/products/E02674.aspx
22:05:08 abrooks: This was great! thanks
22:05:13 SusanEttenheim: get a skype account and we can call you into the conversation live too!
22:05:27 abrooks: do you just need our account?
22:05:32 Cathy E: Have to go to bed - great show!
22:05:33 SusanEttenheim: yes
22:05:44 SusanEttenheim: night cathy thanks for all your help!
22:05:48 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: Don't forget to join the NING http://digitalwritingworkshop.ning.com/ More links there; but more importantly...join in the conversation!
22:06:24 jenny brandon: argh audio
22:06:33 mekuter: too manygreat links! I have too many pages open! :D
22:06:39 lnatwick: thanks all - this was interesting and i lok forward to futre shows
22:07:20 demacisaac: geek:D
22:07:33 carolteach4: Sounds like a fantastic show. I am so glad these shows are availble later as recorded streams; it is so hard to absorb it all in one sitting.
22:07:58 carolteach4: That's so funny, Susan.
22:08:31 SusanEttenheim: that's from jenny :)
22:08:32 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: Paul: Did you get a new bike?
22:08:35 Sara Beauchamp-Hicks: :(
22:08:44 carolteach4: Thanks so much for sharing, Troy.
22:08:50 Troy Hicks: Thanks everyone!
22:08:50 jenny brandon: Oh yeah the bike!
22:08:54 SusanEttenheim: thanks everyone!
22:09:07 mekuter: Thank you all!
22:09:15 carolteach4: How did you students like the show?
22:09:21 Ruth: Thanks for the welcome  Yes I am here for an assignment. It has been very interesting and I 'll be back to check on my one time too.
22:09:22 SusanEttenheim: night everyone thank you!
22:09:30 mahlness: thanks all
22:09:31 mekuter: wonderful! Lots of great information
22:09:34 beccabran: It was very interesting! Thank you!
22:09:34 SusanEttenheim: great ruth!
22:09:50 Troy Hicks: Please do get in touch if you have questions for your assignment!
22:10:04 mekuter: Goodnight all! Now I need to go work on my assignment post!
22:10:15 carolteach4: Thanks, Susan