Teachers Teaching Teachers #165 - 08.26.09 - Meet Lisa Dick and George Haines: Talking about research and diigo

Post-Show description: 

On this episode of Teachers Teaching Teachers, we had a conversation about Diigo and annotations with Lisa Dick, Computer Education a teacher Northern Louisiana @tidertechie. I had put out a call for teachers who use Diigo with their students, and Lisa answered that call.

We also talked with George Haines @oline73. George teaches 7th Graders out on Long Island. One of his sites, by the way is a Google Site, so there’s more to talk about there, since I’ve been building a prototype of what I want students to do. Anyway… George and I connected on Twitter because I was wondering about how to keep my up-coming curriculum focused on self-initiated, self-interested, self-sustaining inquiries.

At Youth Voices, we do a lot of work around this question. We’ve borrowed James A. Beane’s beginning point in his Curriculum Integration work. It’s from Beane that we got the idea to have students write “10 self and 10 world questions“  There’s been a lot of — “Well, maybe we need to do this or that instead.” — And I’m open to some of this, but I still find this simple beginning place to be incredibly powerful.

Getting back to George Haines, he had some ideas that he said were too long to put into 140 characters, ideas about how to kick off self-directed projects. So we invited him onto TTT.

In short, we talked about research, annotating resources, sharing them in diigo, and we talked about why we do this self-motivated, “I-search” in the first place… and we’ll be meeting two new teachers. That’s the most wonderful part of this story. I had never met Lisa Dick or George Hines or the others that joined us on this webcast. We hope you enjoy meeting them too.


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20:40:12 SusanEttenheim: hi steve
20:40:22 Steve: Hi Susan
20:41:30 SusanEttenheim: brb
20:41:38 Steve: ok
20:42:03 SusanEttenheim: hi tdertechie welcome!
20:42:08 SusanEttenheim: brb
20:45:51 SusanEttenheim: hi liz hi tidertechie
20:45:58 tidertechie: Hello
20:46:02 Liz: Good evening
20:46:46 SusanEttenheim: hi liz welcome back
20:46:56 Liz: Thanks! I hit a wrong button.
20:47:20 jgates513: looks like she hit it again
20:47:25 jgates513: :)
20:49:38 SusanEttenheim: liz and jgates - have you joined us before?
20:50:02 jgates513: I have been here a few times, yes
20:50:03 SusanEttenheim: welcome - I am at Eleanor Roosevelt HS in NYC
20:50:05 SusanEttenheim: great
20:50:10 SusanEttenheim: where and what do you teach?
20:50:12 jgates513: I'm in Lemoyne, PA
20:50:44 Liz: I've not had the pleasure of being here before.
20:50:49 jgates513: was a computer teacher for 24 yrs. b4 that, a music tchr. Recently in my own business wo=rking with schools
20:51:11 Liz: I'm an Instructional Facilitator from Wyoming.
20:51:20 jgates513: i am correct that your sound hasn't yet started, yes?
20:51:31 Liz: correct
20:52:06 SusanEttenheim: not quite yet... just working on it
20:52:27 Liz: My browser doens't like when I use tabs and this program. Must remember to use new windows.
20:52:35 jgates513: FYI - I've been working with Maggie from Diigo re: some issues of group visibility. see post here:
20:52:49 jgates513: what? can't past in here? argh!
20:53:30 jgates513: try this: http://snipurl.com/rf059
20:54:27 SusanEttenheim: liz and jgates... do you use diigo?
20:54:38 SusanEttenheim: hi joyce! what a nice surprise!
20:54:44 SusanEttenheim: you did say you'd join us...
20:54:47 joycevalenza: hi susan
20:54:49 SusanEttenheim: can we skype you in?
20:55:00 SusanEttenheim: we're talking about diigo tonight
20:55:02 Liz: I do, yes. But I'm working on learning the beefier elements (past what Delicious can do).
20:55:02 joycevalenza: can i listen for a bit?
20:55:06 joycevalenza: love diigo
20:55:15 SusanEttenheim: sure ;) but would really love you to join in!
20:55:57 joycevalenza: let me listen for a while. not sure how long I can stay. okay?
20:56:16 SusanEttenheim: jcoone welcome!
20:56:41 SusanEttenheim: liz and jgates.. would you like me to skype you in?
20:57:07 jgates513: that would be great. I do think I can add a few things to the conversation tonight
20:57:15 jgates513: I'm jimkathy808 on skype
20:57:29 Liz: I'd like to just listen for now, but thank you!
20:57:39 jgates513: Hey Joyce! Good to see you here
20:58:04 joycevalenza: hi jim!
20:59:04 PeggyG: Hi everyone
21:00:16 PeggyG: audio is coming through great!
21:00:39 George Haines: Hello all!
21:00:46 PeggyG: great to see you Joyce!
21:00:50 SusanEttenheim: thanks peggy
21:01:11 joycevalenza: hi peggy
21:01:12 jgates513: there's audio now? uh ohhhhh
21:01:27 SusanEttenheim: hi joe welcome!
21:01:29 oswego98: hi
21:01:49 SusanEttenheim: jim I'd love to call you in - do you have headsets so we don't get the feedback on the show?
21:01:54 Liz: This is my 3rd week back to work. ;)
21:01:58 jgates513: yes I do
21:01:59 SusanEttenheim: yikes liz!
21:01:59 PeggyG: just submitted my request to join the Youth Voices Flickr group photos :-)
21:02:21 SusanEttenheim: jim when I call you in, please kill the stream ok?
21:02:24 oswego98: I'm not getting audio - Am i supposed to hit a play button somewhere?
21:02:37 SusanEttenheim: and then just wait a few minutes if you hear someone talking, ok?
21:02:46 Liz: At least I like my job!
21:02:46 SusanEttenheim: great peggy!
21:02:56 jgates513: will do
21:02:57 PeggyG: I'm thrilled to hear you're going to start using Diigo!!
21:03:23 PeggyG: Joyce is a pro with Diigo too!
21:03:56 SusanEttenheim: yes let's see if we can entice joyce to join us live!
21:04:02 PeggyG: yeah Jim! great audio
21:04:19 PeggyG: retirement is such a wonderful thing!!! :-)
21:04:50 joycevalenza: yes
21:04:57 oswego98: Yes
21:05:00 PeggyG: yes :-)
21:05:31 SusanEttenheim: ok everyone welcome!
21:05:35 PeggyG: I have Diigo installed on my iPhone too! it's great!
21:05:45 SusanEttenheim: please could you introduce yourself? where and what do you teach?
21:06:03 SusanEttenheim: jann welcome
21:06:12 SusanEttenheim: cnasnen welcome
21:06:17 PeggyG: I'm a retired elementary principal and university instructor in Phoenix AZ
21:06:20 SusanEttenheim: where and what do you teach?
21:06:28 SusanEttenheim: thanks peggy welcome!
21:07:02 SusanEttenheim: hi sheri! welcome!
21:07:06 jgates513: I've mued, in case my call gets dropped on skype
21:07:07 PeggyG: I think Jim and I were in the same group with Maggie at Edubloggercon at NECC
21:07:08 SusanEttenheim: please introduce yourself!
21:07:20 jgates513: mued=muted
21:07:36 SusanEttenheim: but you can hear ok right jim?
21:07:37 jgates513: Peggy - YES! You're right. Hey there!
21:07:41 Paul allison: http://paulallison.tumblr.com/post/171835525/meet-lisa-and-george-on-tea...
21:07:42 jgates513: Yes, Susan, I can
21:07:46 cnasnen: Craig Nansen, Directory of Technology in Minot, ND
21:07:48 SusanEttenheim: welcome demacisaac wehre and what do you teach?
21:07:54 PeggyG: Hi Jim :-)
21:08:23 demacisaac: Hi Susan, I teach in PEI
21:08:30 SusanEttenheim: welcome craig - you've joined us before haven't you?
21:08:35 PeggyG: gateway drug :-) funny!
21:08:42 SusanEttenheim: what do you teach demacisaac?
21:08:46 tidertechie: I'm a High School Computer Education teacher in a small town in Louisiana(Minden) as well as a community college teacher.  I teach multimedia, digital graphics and animation, and web design.
21:09:02 demacisaac: grade two
21:09:05 Sheri Edwards: Hello Craig -- I'm in Coulee Dam WA now but originally from Bismarck!
21:09:34 SusanEttenheim: welcome karlfones and oswego98 welcome!
21:09:39 SusanEttenheim: where and what do you teach?
21:10:17 PeggyG: that's so exciting to hear how engaged the kids are with homework!!
21:10:29 karlfornes: I'm at the university of south carolina aiken (english).
21:10:40 SusanEttenheim: were any of you at will richardson's session at necc?
21:10:59 demacisaac: what did he say twitter info was?
21:11:02 SusanEttenheim: welcome karl glad you could join us!
21:11:02 oswego98: i teach 8th grade social studies in NY
21:11:14 oswego98: Bow drill?  as in fire making?
21:11:22 SusanEttenheim: welcome oswego!
21:11:23 tidertechie: That is so funny homework was mentioned.  I had three ask today if they were allowed to only work on it at school OR if they could work at home also:)
21:11:23 oswego98: that is awesome!
21:11:46 SusanEttenheim: wow tidertechie what was the assignment?
21:11:48 oswego98: i have learned how to do bow drill fires as well
21:11:49 jgates513: what's the name of this project again?
21:12:03 oswego98: Hi susan
21:12:16 SusanEttenheim: welcome back jann
21:12:32 SusanEttenheim: wow please post them at youth voices!
21:12:38 demacisaac: please repeat twitter and you tube titles
21:12:41 oswego98: Anyone have the link to the video he is talking about?
21:12:46 SusanEttenheim: imagine that -- videos that ask you to help learn something
21:12:59 oswego98: THAT IS A GREAT IDEA1
21:12:59 tidertechie: One class is working on copyright, but they actually found a shirt that is illegally using our school logo without permission. They are coming up with an action plan!
21:13:10 Paul allison: http://paulallison.tumblr.com/post/171835525/meet-lisa-and-george-on-tea...
21:13:11 George Haines: oline73
21:14:40 Sheri Edwards: I'm trying to locate the video but there are several bow drill youtube videos
21:15:06 demacisaac: empowring ideas for kids,,,they will catch on
21:15:18 SusanEttenheim: hi lukeka welcome! and bethstill where and what do you both teach?
21:15:39 oswego98: George has some awesome ideas!
21:15:47 demacisaac: I learned how to make sushi on you tube
21:16:01 SusanEttenheim: how true demacisaac!
21:16:13 George Haines: YouTube Video "Help with bowdrill set" by bushkrafft
21:16:19 Sheri Edwards: I think this is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFsDN8dsJU
21:16:32 Liz: My husband has been using YouTube to learn more blacksmithing techniques.
21:16:45 SusanEttenheim: wow liz
21:16:46 Sheri Edwards: help bow drill here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFsDN8dsJU
21:16:52 SusanEttenheim: my daughter learned to knit there
21:17:05 joycevalenza: We've discovered that our kids use YouTube first to get context.  A shift from wikipedia
21:17:17 SusanEttenheim: here too joyce
21:17:25 PeggyG: interesting Joyce
21:17:45 SusanEttenheim: joyce have you seen anything like this idea of making a video of what you want to learn about?
21:17:52 SusanEttenheim: sounds like an idea!
21:18:01 joycevalenza: yes, there's a portal for that
21:18:06 jgates513: i found the video but can't paste in this chat
21:18:10 joycevalenza: let me dig up the name
21:18:17 SusanEttenheim: just drag it in
21:18:23 SusanEttenheim: thanks joyce
21:18:24 PeggyG: have to drag the url into the chat text box
21:18:28 SusanEttenheim: yes
21:18:36 jann: I need some ideas for 7-8 graders in computer lab with no internet...
21:18:37 jgates513: it's from wildernesswikiup14
21:18:52 Paul allison: http://groups.diigo.com/groups/youth-voices
21:19:34 PeggyG: how sad jann-a computer lab with no internet!
21:19:44 jann: any training videos on digital citizenship?
21:19:50 joycevalenza: instructables.com
21:20:02 SusanEttenheim: ahh yes
21:20:05 jann: thanks
21:20:08 demacisaac: what grade is she refering to?
21:20:16 jgates513: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbGyUKBuFeo
21:20:30 Liz: I heard recently that YouTube is the second largest search engine, after Google.
21:20:45 PeggyG: good job Jim!! you're a quick learner!! :-)
21:21:28 joycevalenza: necclibrarytoolssmackdown.wikispaces.com/Digital+Citizenship
21:21:35 Liz: Our students can't download applications onto their laptops.
21:22:11 jgates513: it works, but the features are SO much better with the toolbar. That's why we wanted to discuss the logistics of installing the toolbar on laptops and in computer labs and library
21:22:40 joycevalenza: loading it in the library shouldn't be a problem
21:22:46 Sheri Edwards: My fifth grade students read, bookmarked, and highlighted essays by another class in Tennessee in order to respond to their essays with quotes on a joint wiki.
21:22:48 SusanEttenheim: hi any welcome!
21:22:55 SusanEttenheim: where and what do you teach?
21:23:06 Sheri Edwards: I asked our tech person to install the toolbar to all our computers.
21:23:19 George Haines: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFsDN8dsJU - Bowdrill video for anyone who just came in the chat
21:24:04 demacisaac: why can't I copy  and paste from chat room? J(Just for later reference)
21:24:23 SusanEttenheim: to put text in the chat or take it out, just highlight it and drag it
21:24:31 SusanEttenheim: it is funny but it seems to work
21:25:05 PeggyG: @demacisaac you can highlight and drag it into a text doc--I drag it into an email message and send it to myself :-)
21:25:27 demacisaac: Thanks i'll keep trying:D 
21:26:15 SusanEttenheim: who in the chat room has been using diigo?
21:26:32 SusanEttenheim: what questions do you have?
21:26:35 tidertechie: My blog is tidertechie.edublogs.org
21:26:37 PeggyG: those are really practical helpful suggestions for using Diigo with students--thanks
21:26:40 SusanEttenheim: what suggestions do you have?
21:26:48 cnasnen: I got "converted" this summer at NECC, switched from delicious
21:26:57 jgates513: highlighting just draws attention to a part
21:26:57 Liz: I've been using it to bookmark, make lists, etc. but not the annotation, highlighting features.
21:27:07 demacisaac: what grade level is she referring to?
21:27:09 jgates513: commenting does just that - comments on the highlighted section
21:27:12 SusanEttenheim: cnasnen can we call you in do you have skype?
21:27:18 SusanEttenheim: welcome back jann
21:27:23 jgates513: Hi Craig!!!
21:27:29 cnasnen: Yes
21:27:30 SusanEttenheim: high school
21:27:34 PeggyG: I use Diigo all the time for my own bookmarking--not currently teaching but share bookmarks with many people
21:27:45 SusanEttenheim: what is your skype cnasnen?
21:29:30 SusanEttenheim: liz can we skype you in?
21:29:33 PeggyG: that sounds like a great project!
21:29:46 SusanEttenheim: very quiet in the chat... lol are you all listening?
21:30:04 demacisaac: :)
21:30:27 PeggyG: the annotations add a lot of value to the bookmarked site!
21:30:50 cnasnen: Skype is cnansen (typo on my login to this discussion)
21:30:57 demacisaac: you tube is blocked by many schools
21:31:01 Liz: I'm actually multi-tasking at the moment. Thank you for the invite!
21:31:07 jgates513: I think it's all about the comments, etc that kids leave on pages that either discuss the content itself or explain why they think it's a good site
21:31:24 oswego98: Is there an age requirement for students to use Diigo?  i want my 8th graders to sign up for Google email accounts but the fine print says they must be 13 years old
21:31:42 PeggyG: wow Craig-you have a lot of followers!!! :-)
21:32:21 Sheri Edwards: Diigo has an educator account so the bookmarks are private and students can only see other students; no one can see their profiles
21:32:24 tidertechie: @oswego98 you can try a free Gaggle account for student email
21:32:51 George Haines: @demacisaac TeacherTube or Fliggo or Vimeo would work as well
21:32:52 PeggyG: there is an educator diigo account
21:33:02 oswego98: cool thanks!
21:33:46 Liz: I agree that the toolbar is good, but it will be a struggle to get it added to our students' laptops.
21:33:47 Sheri Edwards: any body there?
21:33:59 jgates513: Agreed, Liz
21:34:13 demacisaac: thanks george
21:34:26 Sheri Edwards: Yay Minot
21:34:37 SusanEttenheim: ugh I am struggling myself! I am a delicious user!
21:34:43 demacisaac: twitter  ?? online 73?
21:34:55 jgates513: 8000? You'l soon have the entire web bookmarked for easy access :-)
21:35:02 Sheri Edwards: Maggie Tai
21:35:16 PeggyG: that was such a great session with Maggie Tsai!! :-)
21:35:26 joycevalenza: i was there too
21:35:30 Sheri Edwards: You can push all your Diigo bookmarks to delicious
21:35:30 joycevalenza: were we all?
21:35:35 demacisaac: 8000  wow  with tags?
21:35:58 jgates513: yes, when you bookmark to Diigo it automatically gets posted to delicious. But after a while I see no point to doing that
21:36:01 PeggyG: you can export everything from Delicious to Diigo-one click
21:36:29 PeggyG: I still maintain both Delicious and Diigo accounts but only enter bookmarks on Diigo
21:36:39 jgates513: me too, Peggy
21:36:41 Sheri Edwards: Me to Peggy
21:36:47 Sheri Edwards: too
21:36:53 jgates513: yes - you can make bookmarks private
21:37:15 SusanEttenheim: that sounds good peggy
21:37:25 Liz: I used Diigo as a "one stop shop" for resources I used in my PD at the beginning of the year.  It worked really well.
21:37:29 SusanEttenheim: I think I'll go for that - it has worried me that I have them only on delicious
21:37:48 SusanEttenheim: what was your reaction to the same session joyce?
21:38:05 joycevalenza: loved it.  was converted
21:38:15 jgates513: and then play a slideshow of that list
21:38:18 joycevalenza: but, it doesn't seem to hold the database bookmarks
21:38:35 SusanEttenheim: ahh that 's interesting joyce... did delicious?
21:38:40 joycevalenza: no
21:38:44 SusanEttenheim: hum
21:39:09 SusanEttenheim:  don't some databases have what they call eternal or some other similar name for links that are good
21:39:12 joycevalenza: so when they use these tools, students tend to stay away from a great deal of the resources I want them to use.  conflicted
21:39:20 SusanEttenheim: so true
21:39:25 joycevalenza: want it all integrated
21:39:38 joycevalenza: maybe maggie can help
21:39:47 jgates513: and I don't want to baby the high school kids through Diigo. I want them to USE the site for its full value
21:40:00 joycevalenza: want it to cite the stuff for me too
21:40:28 joycevalenza: that's the problem i described
21:40:38 jgates513: lol
21:40:41 joycevalenza: yes
21:40:49 SusanEttenheim: ok joyce - ready to join us and talk about it lol
21:40:50 joycevalenza: and our ebooks too
21:40:52 Sheri Edwards: Diigo in Writing class:  http://askwhatelse.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/diigo-in-writing-class/
21:40:56 PeggyG: Jennifer Dorman has compiled some excellent resource for learning about Diigo - http://www.google.com/notebook/public/04712752710140234617/BDRqfSgoQquKe...
21:41:04 joycevalenza: yes
21:41:24 SusanEttenheim: can I skype you joyce?
21:41:24 joycevalenza: why don't we just fix diigo?
21:41:27 joycevalenza: yes
21:41:31 Sheri Edwards: Writing teachers can highlight and comment on student online writing for feedback
21:41:56 SusanEttenheim: great sheri!
21:42:17 SusanEttenheim: hi edwebb welcome!
21:42:27 SusanEttenheim: joyce it says you aren't on skype
21:42:28 tidertechie: @Sheri that is a key element we are trying to reach out to the non techie English teachers
21:42:39 SusanEttenheim: edwebb where and what do you teach?
21:43:06 joycevalenza: maggie and her husband are EVERYWHERE!
21:43:07 Paul allison: I guess Susan is trying to get us back?
21:43:22 demacisaac: hard to understand if we haven't played with program...need time to play, neat
21:43:23 PeggyG: Jennifer Dorman is also an awesome Diigo advocate--so is Miguel Guhlin
21:43:39 PeggyG: Maggie Tsai is one of the co-founders of Diigo
21:43:51 Sheri Edwards: @[tidertechie]  I think Diigo is an easy way to for teachers to start with technology  --- bookmarking, highlight, comment on research
21:44:08 demacisaac: what was twitter that listed earlier..who's maggie
21:44:11 joycevalenza: i can
21:44:14 oswego98: me too
21:44:15 Liz: Sounds good
21:44:23 Sheri Edwards: Maggie is cofounder of Diigo
21:44:23 edwebb: Hang on - trying to get audio up
21:44:28 joycevalenza: it's quieter
21:44:34 Sheri Edwards: i can hear
21:44:37 demacisaac: oh thanks
21:45:11 Liz: I plan on using it as a resource in my teacher tech PD this semester.
21:45:24 edwebb: OK, now I can hear.
21:45:29 demacisaac: lost you??? can't hear anything
21:45:44 edwebb: I teach Middle East politics at Dickinson College, in Pennsylvania
21:45:53 edwebb: I'm a huge Diigo user and advocate
21:45:58 demacisaac: got it back phew...sorry
21:46:01 Sheri Edwards: If we don't jump in, it won't get done!
21:46:22 SusanEttenheim: craig I just put you on hold
21:46:29 SusanEttenheim: we're getting feedback
21:47:11 SusanEttenheim: welcome edwebb!
21:47:38 SusanEttenheim: hi fmindlin welcome! where and what do yout each?
21:47:43 tidertechie: A great use of "stickies" is for the students (or teachers) to post questions that can be answered within that site.  It is a great opportunity for higher order thinking questions:)
21:48:24 PeggyG: Diigo is always the first place I go for my resources searching for tags from my contacts :-)
21:48:53 edwebb: My groups: http://groups.diigo.com/user/edwebb
21:49:05 fmindlin: Hi, I teach digital storytelling with the Central California Writing Project
21:49:09 jgates513: the sad thing is that some schools in PA are blocking Diigo because they say that the links get past the filter - which of course they don't. But, fear is a powerful, paralyzing thing
21:49:16 edwebb: Some of those groups are for classes I taught/am about to teach
21:49:56 PeggyG: sorry-browser crashed--too many tabs open!!
21:50:15 SusanEttenheim: welcome back peggy haha does that mean it's a good night when you crash?
21:50:35 jgates513: (Hi EdWebb. It's so nice to see folks here tonight)
21:50:39 SusanEttenheim: welcome fmindlin
21:50:40 PeggyG: it's always a good night on Teachers Teaching Teachers! :-)
21:51:15 PeggyG: I tried to contact Maggie to see if she could join us but she isn't online right now
21:51:26 Liz: Could we get the link to the Diigo resources on Google again? They were posted after the askwhatelse.wordpress blog.
21:51:27 SusanEttenheim: oh that would have been great peggy
21:51:39 jgates513: LOL!
21:51:44 Sheri Edwards: My students extract their highlights and comments into a wiki to synthesize their ideas and write their own.
21:51:46 SusanEttenheim: hi jmedved welcome
21:52:02 oswego98: this is great stuff!
21:52:03 demacisaac: I just signed up for an open university course, and course reading tag is  on delicious. However sticky notes seems to add a new collaboration.
21:52:18 Sheri Edwards: Is this what you wanted: http://groups.diigo.com/user/edwebb
21:52:31 jgates513: great idea, Joyce
21:52:40 Liz: Before that link.  It was a ways up.
21:52:42 edwebb: Maggie is very approachable - anyone with questions about diigo should feel free to contact her via the Diigo site or on Twitter @maggietsai
21:52:56 demacisaac: can we put password on bookmark for ebsco etc?
21:53:18 SusanEttenheim: what do you mean demacisaac?
21:53:29 jgates513: I DO think that a lot of thought needs to go into the creation of student accounts so that you avoid kids having multiple accounts with diff tchrs
21:53:30 PeggyG: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/04712752710140234617/BDRqfSgoQquKe... that is the Diigo resource list I posted earlier from Jennifer Dorman
21:53:36 Liz: yes, that's it! Thanks
21:53:56 PeggyG: Diigo is so responsive to feedback from educators--be sure to contact them
21:53:59 demacisaac: in the place where you leave a note for yourself about the site. Leave a password and userame too.
21:54:03 Sheri Edwards: this one? http://www.google.com/notebook/public/04712752710140234617/BDRqfSgoQquKe...
21:54:11 Sheri Edwards: Oh peggy got it :)
21:54:16 Liz: Thanks!
21:54:21 SusanEttenheim: jgates we became a google apps school and now all accounts are on that account so they only need one account for all classes
21:54:23 jgates513: That's why I think the librarian (sorry, joyce) could crete the accounts by graduation year. Then, with access to all those accounts, create groups for the teachers
21:54:55 jgates513: That's fine for google docs, but NOT for diigo, Susan
21:55:09 Sheri Edwards: Susan -- can I contact you about your google apps program?  My admin wants us to use google sites as our school website
21:55:44 Liz: I'm having a hard time getting the link to work. It won't work when I click on it and I can't copy it. And advice appreciated.
21:56:21 SusanEttenheim: sure sheri! it has changed our whole school culture for the better! YOu could also have your admin talk to our principal
21:56:29 demacisaac: or a "dio"
21:56:33 jgates513: for example, if I upload 30 kids to create accounts, only *I* can see those names. So, another tchr cannot see those names to pull them into their class group
21:56:35 edwebb: Diigo does need perm links - can't get through paywalls etc
21:56:40 SusanEttenheim: liz highlight and drag
21:56:45 Sheri Edwards: Liz:  this link works:  http://www.google.com/notebook/public/04712752710140234617/BDRqfSgoQquKe...
21:57:25 Sheri Edwards: Liz: try to copy and paste into a text document then copy it back.
21:57:25 tidertechie: When teachers are creating projects they just need to make sure that all resources ARENT coming from "just internet."  Our English teachers require a variety of resources such as databases.
21:57:40 tidertechie: It is part of their grade:)
21:57:55 SusanEttenheim: tidertechie have you found a way to link those in diigo?
21:58:33 Liz: Nothing happens when I click on the link and it won't let me copy the link.  Tried to copy into Word, and that didn't work. Safari won't let me copy.
21:58:45 tidertechie: I will have to try that tomorrow.  I thought we did, but thinking back there might have been an error:)
21:58:46 LDinSTL: You need to have pop-up windows enabled to get the link to work.
21:58:54 Liz: ok, thanks
21:59:00 fmindlin: I can't copy either, but i can click...
21:59:02 PeggyG: you should definitely talk to Maggie and Wade, Joyce--I'm sure they will work with you to find a solution
21:59:11 jgates513: lol
21:59:25 PeggyG: Maggie would love to join you on ETT!! She's eager to talk to educators!
21:59:26 SusanEttenheim: liz just highlight the text and drag it
21:59:27 Liz: That worked.  Thanks, LDinSTL!
21:59:42 LDinSTL: The link oThe link opens in a new window. :-)
21:59:51 LDinSTL: oops lag
22:00:18 tidertechie: nothing is off topic:)
22:00:21 SusanEttenheim: welcome LDinSTL where and what do you teach?
22:00:38 SusanEttenheim: peggy could you introduce us?
22:00:49 LDinSTL: taught college chem for 35 years, mainly community college
22:00:49 SusanEttenheim:  I wonder if we could get everyone together in two  weeks
22:00:55 SusanEttenheim: welcome!
22:01:06 LDinSTL: now into faculty dev
22:01:15 Sheri Edwards: I put the diigo resource link here:
22:01:20 tidertechie: If the students are debating an issue they will shoot down a less accredited site quickly!
22:01:23 SusanEttenheim: what stat LDinSTL?
22:01:24 Sheri Edwards: I put the diigo resource link here: http://whatelse.pbworks.com/How-To-Diigo
22:01:26 SusanEttenheim: welcome greg
22:01:31 SusanEttenheim: where and what do you teach?
22:01:38 Greg Bird in Oz: Thatnk Susan
22:01:42 LDinSTL: Know Ed Webb from the Siemens/Downes course last year
22:02:02 SusanEttenheim: welcome back fmindlin
22:02:04 Greg Bird in Oz: Help if I could spell.  I actually support teaching staff in the adoption of e-learning
22:02:30 fmindlin: I just discovered http://taggalaxy.de
22:02:51 PeggyG: I am inviting Maggie in a Skype chat right now--she'll see it the next time she logs in :-)
22:03:11 SusanEttenheim: great peggy
22:03:42 fmindlin: Kevin Feldman listed it as a site to find images for vocabulary words
22:03:53 PeggyG: I'll let her know how to get in contact with you :-)
22:04:07 Greg Bird in Oz: Confession time.  Whilst I was a diigo convert, I have found myself straying back to delicious.  Better browser integration with delicious bookmarks extension
22:04:23 PeggyG: and I'll give her the link to the recording so she will know what some of the questions are and the interest in using Diigo with students
22:04:25 SusanEttenheim: I love my tag icon greg
22:04:35 jgates513: Greg Bird - do you use the toolbar or the diigolet?
22:05:16 Greg Bird in Oz: I use the toolbar, which is largely very good.  Delicious has tag suggestions from your own folksonomy.  Miss that with diigo
22:05:32 demacisaac: good luck with inquiry  it's possible for young students too
22:05:44 Sheri Edwards: what is his twitter again?
22:05:49 joycevalenza: i lived in flushing for a while. Dad had a deli in whitestone
22:06:02 joycevalenza: hubby grew up in bayside
22:06:20 edwebb: My wife grew up in Bayside!
22:06:30 SusanEttenheim: wow small world
22:06:35 SusanEttenheim: craig are you there?
22:06:42 George Haines: Queens is in the house tonight! w00t
22:06:45 jgates513: I agree, joyce
22:06:54 jgates513: I look forward to the group emails of links
22:06:58 jgates513: and reading their comments
22:07:23 demacisaac: [Sheri Edwards] what is his twitter again?
22:07:25 PeggyG: I do the same thing Joyce!!! awesome resources from Diigo groups!
22:07:33 tidertechie: Definately:)
22:07:53 SusanEttenheim: thanks everyone for joining us tonight
22:07:56 jgates513: thanks, all! g'night
22:07:57 joycevalenza: hooray!  wonderful night!
22:08:02 demacisaac: Joyce i enjoy your delicious thanks
22:08:10 PeggyG: delightful, energizing conversation tonight!!! Thanks everyone!!
22:08:19 Liz: Thank you, everyone!
22:08:27 SusanEttenheim: night all - thank you!
22:08:30 edwebb: Sorry I missed the start of this
22:08:33 SusanEttenheim: see you next week
22:08:35 Greg Bird in Oz: Thanks all
22:08:36 edwebb: Fun, thanks!
22:08:36 Sheri Edwards: thanks
22:08:37 tidertechie: Night everyone! Had a great time:)
22:08:38 demacisaac: bye
22:08:45 PeggyG: post the recording as soon as you can so I can share it with Maggie