EdTechSomething - Librarian roles, Value of Big Names, & Student Teacher Horror Stories
July 12, 2009
(streamed in place of EdTechWeekly)
Topics: Role of librarians, NECC reflections, Next week's EdTechScienceSomething, the ETT newsletter, 'Big Names' in EdTech, Compentence of the latest generation of student teachers, and a few student teacher horror stories.
19:02:14 JenW -> is Google Wave more than just a video so far???
19:02:51 JenW -> okay -- I thought so --
19:02:53 gary -> Unfortunately appears to be cancelled because of weather - :( :( :(
19:02:58 JenW -> what do you think of BING??
19:03:03 JL -> skype 'worldbridges' to join in
19:03:59 PeggyG -> Hi there :-)
19:04:01 connect2jamie -> Last week was great! Just listened to it!
19:04:12 JenW -> LOL
19:04:23 JenW -> okay -- I had to harvest my farmville plants
19:04:31 connect2jamie -> I will in a minute--cooking right now too.
19:04:34 PeggyG -> I've been having issues getting the chat room to load in Firefox lately. Using Flock today.
19:04:55 PeggyG -> I'm grateful that you have the tiny chat pro version now :-)
19:05:22 JenW -> worldbridges???
19:05:36 PeggyG -> it was hilarious when that kid showed up and said oh oh looks like a bunch of old people and logged out
19:05:38 JL -> yep, skype 'worldbridges'
19:06:08 PeggyG -> hearing you fine Jen
19:06:29 connect2jamie -> I just transferred to the Mac too!
19:06:40 PeggyG -> Jen's bilingual now :-)
19:07:00 PeggyG -> that's really exciting Jen that you won a new Macbook!
19:07:29 PeggyG -> wow!!! awesome prizes!
19:08:18 PeggyG -> just went shopping at Target with Sue Waters yesterday before she headed back to Australia and she spent $500 in about 15 mins. on a Smartpen and Flipvideo camera. :-)
19:09:33 PeggyG -> newbie
19:09:49 PeggyG -> I've never seen noobie
19:10:10 PeggyG -> hmmm....
19:10:38 PeggyG -> @JL-I loved the EFLbridges show this morning!!
19:11:00 PeggyG -> it was a fantastic conversation!
19:11:13 JenW -> Peggy -- I won the macbook in March -- and still lingering into it
19:12:29 JenW -> this is so nice to be chatting again with you all
19:12:37 JenW -> and Mac is right nere -- so he might mewo
19:12:41 JenW -> and meow
19:12:44 connect2jamie -> es
19:13:19 JenW -> how do you turn ustream off -- I just paused it??
19:13:30 connect2jamie -> I just paused mine
19:13:31 JenW -> and lowered the audio
19:15:20 Cathy E -> @JenW Here are my latest sunset pics. http://www.flickr.com/photos/khs/3708026919/
19:16:49 Cathy E -> I will have a brand new media coordinator this year
19:16:57 JenW -> Cathy -- can you send me the link via skype -- I can't use it in this CHAT
19:17:41 JenW -> Our librarian refuses to use technology other than checking out books
19:17:59 JenW -> she will NOT get rid of her periodicals
19:19:34 JL -> would you like to join in Lisa?
19:21:05 Lisa Parisi -> Hi Jeff
19:21:15 Cathy E -> Does your librian teach classes
19:21:23 connect2jamie -> @JL it is sooo hard for some librarians to let go of ANYTHING they've bought.
19:21:34 mrsdurff -> I keep losing my connection
19:21:36 Lisa Parisi -> How do I join in the conversation?
19:21:43 mrsdurff -> not good for caLLING IN
19:22:13 connect2jamie -> I see every class each week, but I only have 20-25 min w/ each class.
19:22:14 JenW -> hi Durff
19:22:22 mrsdurff -> hi jen
19:22:29 connect2jamie -> We have to checkout and I do all the internet safety curricululm too
19:22:37 mrsdurff -> we don't need A/C right now
19:22:39 connect2jamie -> Not much time for collab with teachers
19:22:47 JenW -> my air is on as welll
19:22:54 JenW -> getting a bit chilly :)
19:23:08 connect2jamie -> It's been 100*+ for a month here. No rain in 6 wks
19:23:17 Cathy E -> My official title is Technology Facilitator - staff dev, help desk, help kids
19:23:24 connect2jamie -> Chilly sounds soooo good for me!
19:23:34 mrsdurff -> clicks her heels three times?
19:23:37 JenW -> @Cathy -- my admin named me his TechFriend this week
19:23:43 gary -> @connnect2 ... where?
19:23:49 connect2jamie -> Houston
19:24:03 gary -> Understandable.
19:24:06 PeggyG -> love it JenW!
19:24:18 connect2jamie -> We usually have rain, but not this year--grass is dead
19:24:22 mrsdurff -> hi kathym
19:24:42 kathymaske -> hello!
19:25:17 gary -> We have been getting more rain than usual - but late. Also warm.
19:27:35 mrsdurff -> what's going on with EFL room?
19:27:50 JL -> leftovers from this mornings show
19:28:53 JenW -> Does anyone else see a scroll going over the ustream -- or is just mine because it is paused??
19:28:56 gary -> Sorry I was not listening before so I did not hear the invitation - was watching the launch on UStream
19:28:58 mrsdurff -> hey what should our response be to people who say they never heard of ETT so we are not of any sequence?
19:29:21 JenW -> your response would be Let me tell you about ETT
19:29:38 kathymaske -> I see the scroll
19:29:54 JenW -> I did Tiny Chat w/ Mark Wagner at EdubloggerCon
19:30:04 JL -> skyping you now Gary
19:30:06 JenW -> but not with video on my end
19:30:09 connect2jamie -> yikes!
19:30:32 mrsdurff -> hi keisa
19:30:40 connect2jamie -> Hi Keisa!
19:31:01 keisawilliams -> hi
19:31:33 connect2jamie -> Keisa is here--we talked about her NECC session earlier.
19:31:38 mrsdurff -> i volunteer jose
19:32:09 Cathy E -> Maybe Maria Knee's daughter
19:32:13 Cathy E -> Abi
19:32:42 connect2jamie -> That's a good idea Cathy!
19:32:47 Cathy E -> She does under water, ocean vents, science stuff
19:32:56 Cathy E -> She is a great Skype person
19:34:30 mrsdurff -> I love Gilligan's Island
19:34:50 mrsdurff -> the only organised thing in ETT
19:35:37 keisawilliams -> How many elementary librarians are here?
19:35:46 connect2jamie -> I think just me
19:36:26 keisawilliams -> I'm beginning to think we are a dying breed. Hardly any here in California.
19:36:43 JL -> would you like to skype in Keisa? Would add some librarian power to the call ;)
19:36:57 mrsdurff -> my present preoccupation http://www.flickr.com/photos/28093697@N04/3707286406/
19:37:01 connect2jamie -> That is true--I think Washington state and Oregon too
19:37:25 connect2jamie -> skype in Keisa! You have so much to share!
19:37:32 mrsdurff -> Nikolai
19:37:54 connect2jamie -> you skype worldbridges
19:38:04 mrsdurff -> Keisa to call in - skype worldbridges
19:38:36 keisawilliams -> Just logged in for a min. About to head out to the market :/ bad timing. Maybe you will be on when I return. My skype name is - monarchlibrary
19:38:56 connect2jamie -> OK! Happy marketing!
19:39:12 JL -> Here we come Keisa
19:39:38 JL -> need for you to accept contact from 'worldbridges'
19:40:06 kathymaske -> What a great opportunity for teachable moments though :)
19:40:35 Cathy E -> isn't that empty nest thing wonderful :)
19:40:40 mrsdurff -> mine is terrible - hence i call not
19:41:20 connect2jamie -> I love parts of empty nest and not so much other parts...took adjustment
19:41:22 PeggyG -> so sorry Durff!! would love to have you in the conversation!! keep typing!
19:42:14 mrsdurff -> peggy it;s the connection not I
19:42:20 mrsdurff -> why not?
19:42:28 mrsdurff -> it's on a page
19:42:53 mrsdurff -> no i would not pay
19:43:01 connect2jamie -> I don't think I'd pay either
19:43:27 Cathy E -> I would not pay for it
19:43:41 Cathy E -> I can't keep up with the free stuff
19:43:56 mrsdurff -> doesn't feedreader make RSS feeds?
19:43:58 JL -> http://savanttools.com/feedhelp.asp?feed=http://edtechtalk.com/taxonomy/...
19:44:17 JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/taxonomy/term/128/0/feed
19:44:29 kathymaske -> cause they know there are people that will pay!
19:44:40 JenW -> seems silly to me
19:44:44 mrsdurff -> yes for me too
19:45:02 mrsdurff -> wear tights and a hat and take a photo?
19:45:17 Lisa Parisi -> Hello Jan
19:45:19 mrsdurff -> hi jan
19:45:31 mrsdurff -> i hear she is famous
19:45:36 jan_smith -> Hi all!
19:45:47 mrsdurff -> manager who?
19:45:48 kathymaske -> hi jan
19:46:01 jan_smith -> famous for losing her keys
19:46:12 Cathy E -> I have to run - daughter is on her pulling in (I have mother of the bride duties)
19:46:23 Lisa Parisi -> Jan, can we talk after the show?
19:46:25 connect2jamie -> Have fun Cathy!
19:46:53 mrsdurff -> what do we say to people who say they have never heard of ETT so we are of no consequence?
19:47:08 Lisa Parisi -> FF closed on me
19:47:12 mrsdurff -> that's already on page
19:47:21 mrsdurff -> why not just link
19:47:28 jan_smith -> @Lisa, I may have to dash out as owe my son for not being able to go to the beach becsuse I lost my keys
19:47:29 mrsdurff -> like a badge
19:47:41 mrsdurff -> ouch
19:47:52 mrsdurff -> losing keys not fun
19:48:07 mrsdurff -> i think only a badge
19:48:09 jan_smith -> a bad pattern
19:48:37 jan_smith -> I guess I need to sign up for the feed--
19:48:47 Lisa Parisi -> @jan...maybe tomorrow...working hard on project and would love some feedback
19:48:56 mrsdurff -> i don't prefer to read it in my mail
19:49:12 jan_smith -> I have been getting the after the fact summary which makes me feel like I missed out :(
19:49:13 mrsdurff -> but want to check it went out okay
19:49:27 jan_smith -> @Lisa, that would be great.
19:49:28 mrsdurff -> many places block email
19:49:33 mrsdurff -> all email
19:49:52 connect2jamie -> I have reader on my igoogle page, but they block my gmail from my igoogle
19:49:57 connect2jamie -> at work
19:50:04 jan_smith -> Like me, but I understand people being busy
19:50:10 mrsdurff -> what if they don't know
19:50:13 jan_smith -> and things are often ad hoc
19:50:19 mrsdurff -> yes
19:50:30 mrsdurff -> by skin of our teeth
19:50:42 jan_smith -> I see Lisa!
19:50:55 mrsdurff -> yes movie from NECC
19:51:27 jan_smith -> I recognize faces--Sue Waters
19:51:51 mrsdurff -> did you go to NECC, Jan?
19:51:52 jan_smith -> Cathy Cassidy.
19:51:56 gary -> igoogle sometimes allows you to get by blocked sites such as Twitter
19:52:11 mrsdurff -> what is a 'big name"?
19:52:19 jan_smith -> No, wasn't there. I here it is BIG BIG BIG
19:52:44 connect2jamie -> yes--of & on at work I can get to sites thru igoogle--sometimes it doesn't work though. And gmail is alwys blocked. :(
19:52:47 mrsdurff -> i like to know many people
19:52:49 jan_smith -> I am better at smaller things--I would like to go to Philly.
19:53:03 mrsdurff -> EduCon ?
19:53:15 jan_smith -> Yes, did you like it Durff
19:53:27 mrsdurff -> i liked both years
19:53:36 jan_smith -> A big name--an influencer, a helper?
19:54:01 mrsdurff -> someone who is google-able?
19:54:28 jan_smith -> Maybe google able, but by now we all are.
19:55:00 jan_smith -> I like connecting with people who are working at the chalk-face: in the classroom
19:55:09 jan_smith -> Yes, in the classroom
19:55:40 kathymaske -> Someone who is not afraid to share and makes connections
19:55:46 mrsdurff -> ah the love of ISP's
19:56:00 jan_smith -> And I like the idea of following people in several ways, because they reveal who they are and what they really believe
19:57:34 jan_smith -> We are in an age when we get to ponder these influences
19:57:37 mrsdurff -> my friend now claims this is my computer
19:57:46 mrsdurff -> yeah right
19:58:00 mrsdurff -> on other servers no problem
19:58:32 jan_smith -> I think that having those who are working with student teachers would be a neat too.
19:58:34 JenW -> I don't know if I should say BIG name -- but known name
19:58:39 mrsdurff -> she isn;t doing audio so she doesn't notice
19:58:50 mrsdurff -> Jen is a big name
19:59:02 JenW -> nooo -- not at all
19:59:08 mrsdurff -> Jan is a big name
19:59:40 jan_smith -> JenW, I think you also do a great job (ETT) of giving people a chance to have an audience and get encouragement and feedback
19:59:55 jan_smith -> @durff three letters.
19:59:59 JenW -> smiles, I thank you
20:00:49 mrsdurff -> three letters - j-a-n = b-i-g
20:01:06 jan_smith -> I am 5'0"
20:01:12 mrsdurff -> and j-e-n- = b-i-g
20:01:29 JL -> would you like to join the call Jan or Kathy?
20:01:30 mrsdurff -> and you have humor too
20:01:34 kathymaske -> Are they teaching new grads more on technology than before?
20:01:35 jan_smith -> j-a-n = s-m-a-l-l
20:02:08 jan_smith -> @kathy not in my experience. They can do web quests
20:02:20 JenW -> I am 5'3" and am dieting :) so big is not a compliment right now :)
20:02:28 kathymaske -> that is frustrating!
20:02:33 mrsdurff -> okay jen
20:02:35 kathymaske -> @Jen LOL
20:02:37 mrsdurff -> well known
20:03:20 jan_smith -> Well, it's part of my mission with student teachers--I model it, and give them opportunities to risk with my coaching
20:03:32 JenW -> do you think there are born teachers --- who just get it -- and then some that train to be teachers??
20:03:58 JenW -> I mean -- for me to be flexible is really not hard, ideas just come -- but others I see go -- what can I do??
20:04:03 mrsdurff -> i write unit plans
20:04:10 jan_smith -> @JenW I think they need to be born learners. Have to start there
20:04:45 kathymaske -> @Jen I think some really have to try harder than other to it!
20:05:10 mrsdurff -> i thought on my feet from Day One
20:05:14 mrsdurff -> I had to
20:05:28 mrsdurff -> student taught for the Head Teacher
20:05:33 jan_smith -> Student teachers need to have a growth mindset and be ok with failure
20:05:51 mrsdurff -> she had me teaching the class the first day
20:06:34 gary -> Failure is not a negative result - it often teaches something.
20:06:38 mrsdurff -> the worst part of student teaching was the frog that got lose
20:06:49 kathymaske -> I think I learned more about discipline than teaching, teaching was the easier part
20:06:50 PeggyG -> that's funny durff!
20:06:51 jan_smith -> Failure should always teach.
20:06:51 Lisa Parisi -> I had a dog durff
20:07:11 kathymaske -> LOL
20:07:20 mrsdurff -> Peggy it is funny now
20:07:32 mrsdurff -> but at the time I screamed
20:07:33 kathymaske -> Have you read 32 3rd graders and one class bunny?
20:07:36 PeggyG -> time helps huh? :-)
20:07:43 jan_smith -> Some day I will tell the story of the chicks that died. Brutal.
20:07:58 mrsdurff -> oh dear
20:08:07 jan_smith -> No more incubators for me.
20:08:20 gary -> :D
20:08:40 JenW -> I accidentlally made a pipe bomb once -- but that is for another show :)
20:08:57 mrsdurff -> ah - good thinking peggy
20:08:58 jan_smith -> Ohhh Jen--looking forward to that!
20:09:11 JenW -> no kathy -- do you have a link???
20:09:48 kathymaske -> It's a book, and I can't think of the author right now!
20:09:56 kathymaske -> Very funny and good!
20:09:58 gary -> There is the hibernating ground squirrel that woke up and attached itself to the student's hand.
20:10:05 mrsdurff -> so let kim do it and we will copy her
20:10:32 mrsdurff -> and on that note
20:10:53 PeggyG -> thanks for a fun conversation everyone!!
20:11:10 mrsdurff -> 2 men and the ETT Women = great show
20:11:10 kathymaske -> @mrsdurff thanks for the reminders each week on Twitter!
20:11:11 jan_smith -> Leaving now to make up for my failure @Lisa we will talk tomorrow.
20:11:16 mrsdurff -> hi bob
20:11:30 JenW -> laughing out loud about the squirrel -- but sorry for the child
20:11:37 mrsdurff -> bye jan
20:11:38 Bob Caro -> Hi - just had an embarassing tech moment...
20:11:48 JenW -> no longer an ETT woman here -- just a friend
20:12:07 JenW -> yes good to chat agaon
20:12:15 Bob Caro -> Jumped into an Elluminate session all about Vitiligo - it's not a new tech tool, it's a skin pigmentation disorder.
20:12:17 Lisa Parisi -> Bye all
20:12:29 gary -> Bye - thanks all
20:12:36 Bob Caro -> I'll wait for the movie to come out - it sounds like it was great!
20:12:38 connect2jamie -> Thanks all--it was fun!
20:12:38 PeggyG -> I'll bet that was interesting Bob!
20:12:39 - mrsdurff -> again.
20:12:46 - mrsdurff -> now kicked off
20:12:57 - mrsdurff -> the connection is very bad
20:13:23 Bob Caro -> Well, the temp in southTX is now below 95 - time to mow - have a great week all
20:13:39 PeggyG -> it's still 109 degrees here in Phoenix!
20:13:59 kathymaske -> @JenW http://www.phillipdone.org 32 3rd graders and one class bunny
20:14:40 mrsdurff -> aarrgg!
20:14:50 mrsdurff -> nite all
20:14:55 PeggyG -> night all! have a great week!
20:14:59 kathymaske -> thanks all!