Conversations Episode 38 05-31-09
LParisi - Mon, 2009-06-01 09:31
This week was open mic week. Maria Knee, Sheila Adams, and Lisa Parisi were joined by Lucy Gray and Sue Roseman to discuss many topics such as: twitter issues, NECC 2009, and making changes top down vs. bottom up.
MariaK -> : stream in etta and ustream
PeggyG -> : I'm sneaking away from my family but may get suddently called away--will stay as long as I can
Lisa Parisi -> : Hi
brachsmith -> : I am well...how are you?
PeggyG -> : getting the audio now on ustream-thanks
Lisa Parisi -> : Good. Are you done with school yet?
Lisa Parisi -> : Hello Lucy
brachsmith -> : Yes...been done for about a week...feeling rested!
LucyGray -> : Hey Lisa
PeggyG -> : Good morning all!!
PeggyG -> : I'd like to hear the latest update on the suspended Twitter account :-)
PeggyG -> : Maria knows
PeggyG -> : you caused me to do a bunch of research on how this can happen!!
LucyGray -> : Is there feedback or is it me?
brachsmith -> : no feedback here
PeggyG -> : no feedback for me on ustream
Lisa Parisi -> : Welcome Sue
sroseman -> : hi Lisa
PeggyG -> : Hi Sue
sroseman -> : topic??
Lisa Parisi -> : Open Mic
sheila -> : open mic
sroseman -> : hi Peggy
PeggyG -> : this is an amazing story--thank you so much for sharing the info
PeggyG -> : I read somewhere that you had to start a new twitter account to be able to report a problem with your account!
Lisa Parisi -> : Hello Woodenmask
woodenmask -> : Hi
Lisa Parisi -> : Welcome back Lucy. Try the ustream
LucyGray -> : ah okay
sroseman -> : turned off stream ..wish to use skype
LucyGray -> : I keep forgetting the opening tabs will close this hat
PeggyG -> : http://help.twitter.com/forums/26257/entries/15790
Lisa Parisi -> : Sue, you can only listen through ustream or ETTA
LucyGray -> : Much better
colleenk -> : Hi All!
LucyGray -> : What a story!
Lisa Parisi -> : Hello Colleen
LucyGray -> : It's okay
LucyGray -> : lol
PeggyG -> : seems to be happening a lot based on this search-- http://search.twitter.com/search?q=suspended
LucyGray -> : I think Amazon is the worst
11:44:44 LucyGray -> : If you have a problem with Google Apps or anything education related, you can always shoot me an email and I'll pass it on
MariaK -> : http://mashable.com/2009/05/30/facebook-twitter-worm/
PeggyG -> : I've had the same experience with VoiceThread!! They are amazing with their responses!
PeggyG -> : that's great to know Lucy!!
PeggyG -> : they say it can take up to 30 days to get your account back up!! you had good luck!!
PeggyG -> : me too Lisa--happens with new message announcements on some Nings too! you go there and there's no new message
colleenk -> : One of my Twitetr followers (a teacher) just sent a suspicious looking DM this morning. Didn't click on the link she included.
PeggyG -> : I love using Power Twitter because it shows you the real URL for tiny urls so you know what you're clicking on
colleenk -> : @PeggyG This was a url I could read. Something about "join me for spymasters".
PeggyG -> : http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter/topics/twitter_account_suspended_without_cause
colleenk -> : @MariaK No, I didn't click on yours :)
Lisa Parisi -> : Anyone want to come into the skype call?
colleenk -> : Is that real?
PeggyG -> : good decision Colleen--not to click on that one :-)
PeggyG -> : if you browse through that getsatisfaction link you'll see lots of recent reports about twitter suspended accounts and tips on how they solved the problem
MariaK -> : skype
brachsmith -> : is her account suspended?
PeggyG -> : come back Maria!!
PeggyG -> : too funny brachsmith!!
brachsmith -> : it is like your cache
sroseman -> : I am on a MAC
brachsmith -> : yes
PeggyG -> : not sure how clearing your browser cache can solve that problem with twitter
brachsmith -> : control panel
brachsmith -> : not sure how that would help
PeggyG -> : you can choose what you want to remove/clear in preferences on Mac (Firefox and Flock)
PeggyG -> : you don't have to clear the history to clear the cache
brachsmith -> : just run a scan with windows defender or something similar
brachsmith -> : windows defender
brachsmith -> : free
brachsmith -> : oh mac
sroseman -> : Disk Warrior
brachsmith -> : not sure about mac with windows defender
PeggyG -> : there are so many reasons your twitter account could be suspended (learned from my reading last night)
sroseman -> : Disk Warrior ..not free
brachsmith -> : free is key!
brachsmith -> : funny
PeggyG -> : that "bad" video someone hacked on your account could have caused someone to report it as inappropriate and then suspend your account until they can investigate it
brachsmith -> : I remember that.
sheila -> : Free for Mac - ClamXav
PeggyG -> : the frustrating thing I was hearing from people was once your account is suspended you can't use it to contact twitter to report the problem
sroseman -> : School on Sunday?
sheila -> : Better connections at school to stream . . .
PeggyG -> : I read that just today--don't use the 3rd party apps like snowball fight
PeggyG -> : http://cheryloakes50.blogspot.com/2008/12/my-facebook-account-was-hacked.html
PeggyG -> : great advice in Cheryl's blog post!
sheila -> : Thanks Peggy!
sroseman -> : wow you are devoted
sroseman -> : key to get tin
PeggyG -> : It was Maria's experience that caused me to start researching his last night :-)
PeggyG -> : awards are wonderful!!!!
PeggyG -> : hooray!!!! twitter not blocked at school :-)
Lisa Parisi -> : Anyone want to come on the skype call and talk about something?
brachsmith -> : Must go pick up daughter's friend for playtime...thanks for the morning "conversations"!
Lisa Parisi -> : Bye
sheila -> : Bye
Shannon, have a great day.
PeggyG -> : that's a great reason--Supt. on Twitter :-) We should all send him a welcome message :-)
sheila -> : Yes, we should. :)
sroseman -> : can I skype in
sroseman -> : talk about NECC
PeggyG -> : What are you all hearing about Google WAVE? sounds really interesting!
Lisa Parisi -> : Hello Joel
joelz -> : Howdy
PeggyG -> : Lucy-can you come on and talk about Google WAVE?
joelz -> : @Maria: Your super is on Twitter? Can you share her handle?
PeggyG -> : I agree with Maria--Pollyana point of view is good!!!
PeggyG -> : http://wave.google.com/
Lisa Parisi -> : Lucy? Want in?
PeggyG -> : when a leader like a Supt starts to use a tool it helps others to want to explore how to use it
PeggyG -> : look at what has happened with Skype since Oprah started using it and highlighting it!!
LucyGray -> : Hi
LucyGray -> : Sorry I was distracted by family
Lisa Parisi -> : Lucy can you come in and talk about Wave?
LucyGray -> : I honestly don't know much about wave!
LucyGray -> : Yeah!
LucyGray -> : Plan ahead with NECC
LucyGray -> : Develop a strategy
PeggyG -> : that link will give you a preview - new tool for communication and collaboration on the web-coming later this year
joelz -> : @Maria: I got bumped off the chat, can you post your super's twitter handle again?
Lisa Parisi -> : She didn't post it yet Joel
LucyGray -> : If you are concerned about being overwhelmed... do plan ahead
LucyGray -> : That was in response to the woman from
LucyGray -> : Pick a theme of something you're interested in
LucyGray -> : like interactive whiteboards or blogging or math oriented sessions
12:10:05 PeggyG -> : I think it helps to use the Conference Planner even if you don't go to all of the sessions you save--just helps you to find them easily once you're there
LucyGray -> : I agree, Peggy. I overbook the planner so I always have some choices
PeggyG -> : me too--lots of conflicts in my planner but that's fine
MariaK -> : please follow my super and asst super - tell them the connection- peterhwarburton (super) and gpaludi (asst super)
sheila -> : I use the planner too. Have several choices for each session.
LucyGray -> : Have you looked in the Global Education ning for people?
LucyGray -> : http://globaleducation.ning.com
LucyGray -> : There's a global ed birds of a feather at NECC too where you might find people
12:12:13 PeggyG -> : I also sometimes sit in the Blogger's Cafe/NECC Unplugged and watch the stream from another session just to save walking :-)
PeggyG -> : sounds like a great project Lisa!
sroseman -> : [email protected]
sroseman -> : oh no the other one
sroseman -> : [email protected]
LucyGray -> : You should look for someone from an international school in
sroseman -> : or Shanghai
sroseman -> : try epals
LucyGray -> : Also, try TakingITGlobal for connecting
LucyGray -> : Valerie Becker in
Martha's Vineyardhas gotten very adept at looking for partners for very specific purposes
LucyGray -> : You need to contact people directly in the GEC Lisa
LucyGray -> : There are two people in the GEC from
, for instance, so send them a message Brazil
LucyGray -> : Don't wait for people to come to you necessarily
LucyGray -> : You have to dig
LucyGray -> : Unfortunately
LucyGray -> : Talk to Valerie... she might have some good tips
LucyGray -> : Once the membership grows, it will get easier
LucyGray -> : but
South Americahas been traditionally underrepresented
LucyGray -> : It's because of Bandwith
LucyGray -> : they don't necessarily have the ability
LucyGray -> : Look at the GEC cluster map
LucyGray -> : it's really a map about bandwith
LucyGray -> : lol
LucyGray -> : Sure
LucyGray -> : let me find headphones
MariaK -> : @joelz peterhwarburton (super) gpaludi (asst super) mifk (district tech director)
sheila -> : http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/brooklyn/2009/05/31/_supreme_choice_that_shatters_old_stereotypes.html
MariaK -> : sheila knows stuff!
sheila -> : HOw to paste? yeah, right!
sroseman -> : let's talk about Susan Boyle
PeggyG -> : Yes--Susan Boyle!! I can't believe she didn't win!! She was amazing!!
sroseman -> : I am more interested in Michelle Obama's arms
LucyGray -> : Okay
LucyGray -> : I'm readly
LucyGray -> : I have lots of thoughts on this
sroseman -> : poor performance on Susan Boyle's part
PeggyG -> : too funny Sue!
PeggyG -> : I thought her performance was great!
sroseman -> : Not as good as her first performance
LucyGray -> : oops I didn't mean to call you
LucyGray -> : I was just trying to search
PeggyG -> : that interview with Jen Wagner on ET Brainstorm was fantastic!
spedteacher -> : I think it is possible that there are a lot of edubloggers who blog in their native languages who do not join our networks because they are not comfortable in or don't know English.
MariaK -> : yes it was! yeah Jen
spedteacher -> : How likely would you be to join a Japanese blogging community?
Lisa Parisi -> : What about English speaking minorities?
joelz -> : If all things are equal, we should aim for balanced representation.
PeggyG -> : the webheads in action is an awesome group for people who speak different languages to participate--lots of wonderful sharing!!
PeggyG -> : http://wiaoc09.pbworks.com/schedule their convergence conference was excellent last weekend
MariaK -> : @peggyG are you a webhead yet?
MariaK -> : we do programming when we use our logo roamers - log - perfect environment for young children
MariaK -> : logo not log
PeggyG -> : http://images4education.ning.com/ This is the Ning Carla Arena started for webheads and it is great! She will be our guest next Sat. on Classroom 2.0 LIVE telling about EVO and Images4Education
PeggyG -> : I'm sort of a webhead--on the Ning and listserv :-)
MariaK -> : @peggyG - you are such a geek! lol That's why I love you.
PeggyG -> : I really am because I just love learning from everyone!!
PeggyG -> : I agree with Lucy about the mindset!
MariaK -> : @woodenmask - i just noticed you are here - woo hoo - hello john NH is well represented in this chat
colleenk -> : @PeggyG Tim F was very thankful for the Classroom 2.0 opportunity. He really appreciated it.
PeggyG -> : He was fantastic!! I've listened to his recording twice already! That was such a great show and having both you and Graeme (Math Maker) join in was a real bonus!!
LucyGray -> : My daugther is at one of the most elite schools here in
LucyGray -> : and there's no collaboration going on either
LucyGray -> : Some teachers, some of the time
LucyGray -> : but it's not an organized effort
joelz -> : If it were all up to admins, don't you think things would be diffent by now?
MariaK -> : @peggyG where are those Classroom 2.0 sessions archived?
joelz -> : *different*
LucyGray -> : Let's inspire people!
LucyGray -> : I'd start with that!
colleenk -> : There's very little collaboration or technology at the elite schools in
. Very traditional setting. Boston
PeggyG -> : there are very very poor schools that are finding ways to collaborateways to collaborate
sroseman -> : same problems here in
joelz -> : Who has tried and failed with bottom up change? I would love to see documentation of this.
PeggyG -> : http://live.classroom20.com/archive.html
sroseman -> : school model has not changed in decades
PeggyG -> : my typing is so delayed here--sorry for messy posts!!
joelz -> : I'm not convinced technology by itself is a compelling reason to change
sroseman -> : take a look at this http://www.nipissingu.ca/education/ITeachprogram.asp
PeggyG -> : technology should support the changes needed not be the reason for the change
PeggyG -> : the rewards are very helpful so we can see good models of best practices!
joelz -> : Who decides what "should be" in education?
PeggyG -> : great question joelz!
joelz -> : I stole it from Neil Postman.
PeggyG -> : thanks for that link Sue-love the laptop program info there
sroseman -> : can you post your model
joelz -> : Maybe it's not about delivering YOUR message, but developing a vision WITH your colleagues in your school.
sheila -> : Good point Joelz
woodenmask -> : It was a good meeting this past Friday, Maria.
joelz -> : @Lisa so the issue isn't tech use, the issue is deeply held beliefs.
Lisa Parisi -> : Yes, Joel.
joelz -> : Every classroom teacher has an idealist inside waiting to be stirred.
MariaK -> : there you are - john - wasn't sure if the boy called you away!:p
PeggyG -> : very well said Maria-celebrate those changes! we all need encouragement to keep trying new things
sheila -> : @LisaP - don't forget you inspire us!
Lisa Parisi -> : I so want to believe that Joel.
PeggyG -> : hilarious!!
12:43:20 PeggyG -> : sometimes people don't get it the first time you show/share it--once they discover they have a need for it they'll come back and ask you again
sheila -> : @LisaP - you got other classrooms to do Earthcast!
PeggyG -> : thhis has been a great conversation!!
woodenmask -> : I'm here. Just working on being a better listener. (An uphill struggle.)
PeggyG -> : I'm going to NECC and can't wait to see any of you who will be there!
spedteacher -> : That's the problem in my school -- no one to go to for how-to help or any kind of assistance.
sheila -> : @sroseman - NECC idea - register now for BYOL.
spedteacher -> : I'm becomming that guy and I have no idea what I'm doing. I just have interest and enthusiasm.
PeggyG -> : so funny!!
PeggyG -> : I'm going to the Constructivist Celebration on Sunday with Gary Stager
PeggyG -> : Saturday is EduBloggerCon and I'm going to that
PeggyG -> : Hooray Lucy!! I'll see you there
colleenk -> : Are you going, Maria?
LucyGray -> : Bye ladies... see you soon
LucyGray -> : thanks for letting me for babbling
PeggyG -> : That was such a great show you did with
and the NH experience with Constructing Modern Knowledge!! Gary
Lisa Parisi -> : ettconversations.blogspot.com
sheila -> : http://ettconversations.blogspot.com
PeggyG -> : thanks everyone!! fun show!!
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