WOW2 Show #104 with Liz Kolb

Special GuestL Liz Kolb sharing about cell phones in the classroom

 

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20:58:44 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Liz

20:58:50 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: hi Jen ... here too

20:58:56 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: and in skype

20:58:58 [Message] Liz -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheri

21:00:35 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: Hi folks

21:00:42 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Cheri -- we are calling you

21:00:44 [Message] DianeHammond -> -EdTechTalk: Hi

21:00:45 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: again  --

21:00:48 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Diane

21:00:54 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: i'm ready

21:01:03 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: Hi diane

21:01:04 [Message] DianeHammond -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Jen  -it's been a while :-)

21:01:10 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: hi peggy

21:01:11 [Message] DianeHammond -> -EdTechTalk: Hi cheri

21:01:29 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everyone-I'm hearing audio fine for all

21:01:33 [Message] DianeHammond -> -EdTechTalk: Volume's good!

21:04:10 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: sounds like we're ready to rock and roll!! :-)

21:04:29 [Message] DianeHammond -> -EdTechTalk: BRB

21:05:06 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: the cold weather brrr

21:05:19 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: The arctic is on its way!!

21:05:34 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: and I am skiing at Tremblant tomorrow!!!

21:05:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: you can have your cold weather! :-) Phoenix was low 70's today

21:05:46 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @sue YIKES!!

21:05:52 [Message] DianeHammond -> -EdTechTalk: The Arctic is HERE!

21:06:01 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yeah Liz Kolb!! My hero!

21:06:04 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: just give it a couple of hours

21:06:05 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: perhaps it will be cancelled

21:06:11 [Message] Liz -> -EdTechTalk: Awww thanks Peggy!

21:06:43 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: it is going to be DANG cold tomorrow...

21:06:56 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: bbbbbbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

21:07:08 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: there have been some great links coming through for inauguration activities! What an exciting time!

21:07:18 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi page

21:07:24 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: would you believe that we have been told we are cancelling classes to watch the inauguration?? I live in Montreal Canada

21:07:37 [Message] DianeHammond -> -EdTechTalk: You scared me - Jan. 12 was yesterday :-

21:07:40 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: i vote for that

21:07:51 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://howmanyofme.com/

21:08:38 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: And Obama's first trip outside the US is to Ottawa!!!

21:10:01 [Message] page -> -EdTechTalk: hi

21:10:14 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://inaugural.senate.gov/index.cfm

21:10:29 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://delicious.com/WOW2.0

21:10:30 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @sroseman--that's really exciting! Will you get to see him?

21:10:44 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: Uh-oh Cheri sounds a bit like she is underwater tonight....

21:10:55 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.gone2thedogs.com/%5C%5C

21:11:01 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: oh! When is Obama in Ottawa??

21:11:09 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: perhaps, Peggy

21:11:46 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: there is one other with my name - she lives in Ohio

21:12:02 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: no specific date for Obama's visit yet.

21:12:12 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.ottawasun.com/News/National/2009/01/13/pf-8009666.html

21:12:13 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/conversion/windchill.html

21:12:45 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: http://janeknight.typepad.com/pick/2009/01/mixedink.html

21:13:16 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Soundl like she went down the bathtub drain.

21:13:34 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @Scott LOL

21:14:06 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: I was having so much fun

21:14:12 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.mixedink.com/main.php

21:14:15 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: and then found out I was talking to myself!!

21:14:23 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: she will be back

21:14:35 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: and can explain WIND CHILL later

21:14:46 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: ok

21:15:00 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.academiccommons.org/commons/essay/knowledgable-knowledge-able

21:15:07 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: this is what wind chill looks like

21:15:14 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: ice

21:15:23 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: hello tony

21:15:28 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: hi james

21:15:34 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Tony! Great to see you!

21:15:43 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I'm near Chicago.  Windchill is a household word here.

21:15:44 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: hello

21:15:53 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: The Delicious Link with ALL tonights links:  http://delicious.com/WOW2.0/wow2_20090112

21:15:58 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Scott - I'm in Normal, IL

21:16:07 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Peggy!

21:16:07 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.slideshare.net/janehart/top-100-tools-for-learning2008-presen...

21:16:14 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: <==== shall be in IL in 3 weeks and 4 days

21:16:23 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: is it that soon?

21:16:25 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: HI Cheri.   I'm in NW Indiana

21:16:27 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: hmmm 4 weeks

21:16:31 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: we'd beter get going on our panel

21:16:43 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/wiki/TyingItAllTogether

21:16:57 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: @scott - brrr - what we're sending you is cccccoooooollllldddd

21:17:15 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: you will find Liz's links in the delicious links as well

21:17:20 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Creating a learning network! Great! That's what we talked about on the Classroom 2.0 LIVE show last Saturday!

21:17:39 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I just home a little bit ago.  It's near zero and dropping fast

21:18:41 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Liz is always so inspiring and motivating!! I'm so glad she's our guest tonight!!

21:20:24 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: @Scott -- would you like me to check the weather in So Cal??  :)

21:21:14 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that's really interesting--started this incredible journey with an audioblog!

21:21:36 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: I like that, 'tool for professional knowledge'

21:21:47 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: No, it's ok.  I'm OK with the cold.  I have a camping trip planned for the weekend.

21:22:34 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @Scott ridiculous cold expected here

21:23:13 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: We should be back in the 20's by Saturday.  The next two days will be below zero.

21:23:24 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: city is anticipating multiple drainage pipe bursts .... erght

21:23:28 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I have no clue what below zero means

21:23:35 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: Have any of you used cell phones with your students?

21:24:16 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I've used phone to do a poll when I was subbing.  Phones are forbidden, but EVERY student carried one.

21:24:24 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: I know when we were in South Africa, teachers were very interested in using cell phones in education - computers are not ubiquitous

21:25:01 [Message] Liz -> -EdTechTalk: go.blogger.com

21:25:16 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I haven't had students to teach since I learned about Liz's ideas by reading her blog and book and listening to her radio show. I would love to try these things!!

21:25:18 [Message] Liz -> -EdTechTalk: Utterli.com

21:25:35 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: I've used a couple of Liz's ideas with my students - preservice and inservice teachers

21:26:03 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: go.blogger.com uses enhanced sms/mms.  Can't get it to work on my windows mobile phone. 

21:26:13 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: When Chris Betcher was with us a couple of weeks ago, he showed us some of the cell phone videos from his school's cell phone film festival!!

21:26:19 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I just keep telling all of my colleagues and teacher friends about uses of cell phones hoping they will consider it!

21:26:20 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Still worrking with tech support.....

21:26:45 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Joyce and James! Welcome!

21:26:59 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Utterly works great! 

21:27:03 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Joyce!!!

21:27:04 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: she really isn't

21:27:12 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: hi friends!

21:27:27 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks, had trouble getting sound, but better now

21:27:28 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: HI Joyce! Will I see you at educon this year?

21:27:44 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think cell phones could be the answer to many of our ed tech funding problems! Use what they already have!

21:27:48 [Message] page -> -EdTechTalk: Me too James

21:27:54 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: :-( no sharon, unless we're snowed in.  Must go to Denver for ALA

21:28:11 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: awwww

21:28:21 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: have fun in Denver!

21:28:24 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: please keep me filled in

21:28:35 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Mobile web is about $5/month here.  Is the same everywhere else?

21:28:51 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the wonderful thing about educon is it will all be streamed! some awesome things planned!!

21:29:05 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @Scott Canadians pay 2nd highest cell phone rates in world

21:29:21 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: @sharon - who pays the highest?

21:29:33 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: @Sharon.  who pays the highest?

21:29:37 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Is small screen big enough for web surfing?

21:29:56 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @cheri one of those countries whose name begins with "B" ... a developing nation, I think

21:30:18 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi matt

21:30:31 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Mattt

21:30:35 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Matt -- did you get caught in the revolving door??

21:30:35 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: @James   I spend Hours web serfing on my phone.  My laptop hasn't left my desk in weeks.

21:30:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: great approach--what are the concerns and what can we do about them?

21:30:38 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: I try to remind myself tht for years we paid lowest rates for high bandwidth (interesting comparison)

21:31:04 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey lisa...stream isnt' working for me

21:31:07 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: they can't bring them to our school, so handbook says - yeah right - kids use them in my classes

21:31:08 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Matt! glad you perservered and got in :-)

21:31:12 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I am THIS close to buying an iTouch -- but can't do an iPhone -- and I agree with Scott, I think it will become my major internet tool

21:31:13 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: losing them

21:31:24 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: back

21:31:27 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: weird

21:31:29 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: I am holding out for G-phone

21:31:39 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Sorry -- Joyce -- losing them??  

21:31:41 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: parents won't stand for kids not having cellphones

21:31:48 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: my new iPhone is changing my life--got a great deal through Oprah discount :-)

21:31:49 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I wish the iTouch had camera...that is my only gripe

21:31:51 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: ahhh losing the phone??

21:31:52 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: I agree @durff

21:31:58 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I passed on the iPhone.  Got a verizon XV6800. 

21:32:03 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: sometimes they get stolen if left

21:32:16 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy... Oprah discount??

21:32:17 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: who's responsbility is it if lost on school -- ??

21:32:18 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Does the cell phone need to have a "thumb board" to substitute for student computers in the classroom?

21:32:20 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I hear that the next generation of ipod touch will have a cam

21:32:24 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: use an ipod touch along with a cell phone..cheaper

21:32:34 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: have i mentioned that I love my iphone?

21:32:35 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I am using SKYPE with the itouch -- if I get it

21:32:40 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: We can do it

21:32:43 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: let's teach 'em to take pictures, podcast, txt FOR class not in spite of class

21:32:53 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @Sharon...google phone's Androis is still a bit immature...I'd wait a year on it

21:33:05 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: I'm waiting for Mar 22 to arrive so I can get the new BB Storm

21:33:16 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: Not a good area for iPhones here

21:33:17 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @sue I want to be able to use skype on a device

21:33:18 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: ANOTHER ONE -- Cheri -- it just came out

21:33:30 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Walmart is selling refurb iphones.

21:33:34 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: we have to establish classroom norms

21:33:38 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @matt my wallet is making me wait a year

21:33:40 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: no wait!! sorry! the discount was on my Kindle--my daughter gave me my iPhone for Christmas!! even better :-)

21:33:42 [Message] page -> -EdTechTalk: They need to be taught those things

21:33:44 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: I can't get the discounts until Mar 22 - otherwise $600

21:33:46 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: yuk

21:33:52 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: Phone ettiquette is so important. Seems adults talk much too loudly on them (especially in the airport). Kids don't seem to talk as loudly on them.

21:33:58 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: @Jen - what's your provider?

21:34:02 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Verizon

21:34:17 [Message] page -> -EdTechTalk: they are texting mostly

21:34:40 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: me too

21:34:43 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: but we can impact that page

21:34:44 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: @Jen  Check into used windows mobile phones on ebay.  Ones like mine are going for abt 100

21:34:47 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: Exactly. And texting is quiet. :)

21:34:48 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: that makes our calls free

21:34:49 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: sounds so much like talking to students about online identity!

21:35:03 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Scott -- that is where the itouch is that I want to buy

21:35:09 [Message] page -> -EdTechTalk: parent education as well

21:35:32 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: interesting that parents can be far worse abusers of cell phones than their kids!

21:35:36 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I touch is cool, as long as you are always near wi-fi.

21:35:51 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: :)   at home and work is for sure.......  :)

21:36:02 [Message] page -> -EdTechTalk: @sharon you got it!

21:36:17 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: i guess i am a lone ranger in cell phone education

21:36:20 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: that's why i got the blackberry - there's a keyboard :D

21:36:33 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Tony has written some fantastic blog posts about iTouch/iPhone :-) Jump in here Tony!

21:36:46 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: everyone twitter this show

21:37:02 [Message] page -> -EdTechTalk: I am guilty too

21:37:15 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I taught my son how to text Google to get information.  THe other 8th graders think its cool. 

21:37:39 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Peggy. iPod touch/iPhones are my favorite "cell phones" because of App Store.

21:37:53 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I learned I could do an audio search on Google on my iPhone--incredible!

21:38:00 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: perhaps an "Honor Code" for use makes better sense than an AUP

21:38:25 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: Dial2Do let's me use my cellphone to check email & twitter while waiting in the Starbucks drive-thru

21:38:29 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the apps store is my undoing--every time I'm waiting for something to happen I'm looking for new apps :-)

21:38:29 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: Is it true that the iTouch can be used with skype as a cell phone? Does it have a mic? (Pardon my ignorance!)

21:38:33 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.google.ca/mobile/sms/index.html

21:38:50 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: I use Gabcast with Spanish for their homework

21:39:05 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @sharon...I use Fring, which gives my skype on my iPhone...not sure about iTuch

21:39:23 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: The 2nd gen iPod touch support an attachable mic.

21:39:28 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: YES,

21:39:36 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: that is how I am going to use SKYPE

21:39:47 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: oh how cool, that is what I want to know!

21:40:00 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Ed tech can be an equalizer for students in poverty.  However, how much student cell phones and texting depend on how much the family can afford.  How do you equalize that gap?

21:40:07 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: txt msg campaign.... wow

21:40:08 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: and since I live in CA and can't drive and talk at the same time, I won't have to worry about WIFI

21:40:14 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: I used http://wiffiti.com/ as a 1st day activity

21:40:15 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: James -- I will ask THAT

21:40:17 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: good question

21:40:30 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: i'd go broke - i dont' have a text plan

21:40:36 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @James Many developing nations have dead cheap cell phone rates

21:40:40 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: 6th grade used Gcast for interviews with cellphones

21:40:41 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: We have free/reduced lunch.  Maybe we need free/reduced cell service.

21:40:54 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: i like that Scott

21:41:07 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I dont' have TEXT either Cheri

21:41:12 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: @Scott - there was a program in NY city - free phones for school

21:41:31 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: DO they take them home or leave them @ school?

21:41:33 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: unlimited txting is only $15 for me Cheri

21:41:36 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: I witnessed something in South Africa.... all the phones are unlocked, kids who could not afford a phone had a card and swapped out cards on their friends' phones when they needed it

21:41:39 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: @cheri for anyone in school?

21:41:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: http://learninginhand.com/blog/2008/12/12-days-of-ipod-touch-and-iphone....  some of Tony's postings on iTouch :-)

21:41:53 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: @James - its was only in NY city

21:42:04 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: her lists can go on and on--something for everyone!

21:42:28 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: they gave students cell phones that were limited when at school

21:42:31 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I am overwhelmed   :)

21:42:56 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: exactly, outside classroom - extends the learning

21:43:00 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that's such a key point about being able to use the cell phones as learning tools outside of school

21:43:06 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: @cheri did the school provide service?

21:43:23 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: @james - it was AT&T or another provider

21:43:24 [Message] Maureen -> -EdTechTalk: @JenWagner- No service where I live- it's all Greek to me. Amazed!

21:43:30 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: @Jen is so quiet

21:44:04 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: The average number of monthly texts for a 13-17 year old teen is 1,742. http://tinyurl.com/9smvvf

21:44:10 [Message] Liz -> -EdTechTalk: I love Flagr.com for the location mobile blogging

21:44:12 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Cell phone homework?  cool

21:44:14 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: but they will do that hw if it is on the cellphone and done in class

21:44:54 [Message] Liz -> -EdTechTalk: Drop.io for pictures

21:44:56 [Message] JoNelle -> -EdTechTalk: love the google maps ideas

21:45:06 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: this link works http://www.flagr.com/

21:45:25 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: oh that IS funny

21:45:31 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I've heard many people are "jailbreaking" their iPhones to stream video via Qik.com

21:45:52 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: I only have 1 student who has my #

21:45:52 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I also don't get jailbreaking.

21:45:58 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: imagine field trips and field study

21:46:02 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: she does txt me

21:46:03 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: you can now create Animoto videos from photos on your iPhone :-)

21:46:11 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Qik ROCKS!  Great tech support  and a cool service.

21:46:33 [Message] JoNelle -> -EdTechTalk: sorry don't know how to get pics from phone to computer - older phone:)

21:46:34 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: @durff - that's what I was thinking about - HS students ... my phone ... hmmmmm

21:46:36 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes! qik is amazing!

21:46:43 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG my pocketbook cringes when I hear these things bec of the high cost here in Canada

21:46:57 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: ebooks too

21:47:26 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: but once you invest in the phone and monthly charges the apps are free or very cheap--maybe 99 cents-$4.99.

21:47:37 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: cheri - this is a HS student who needed my # and the library asst # so she lets us both know how the other is doing

21:47:39 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: yes

21:47:51 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: @JoNelle Put pics  on memory card, then take card from phone and insert in computer.

21:47:56 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Even a non-activated phone can be used for voice recording, taking photos, and calculator.

21:48:03 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: i had them work in groups - so we used the phone of whoever had the free texting

21:48:11 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @James I agree, yes

21:48:12 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: i have mostly middle school kids who don't own phones yet

21:48:14 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: students can share cell phones and even share the teacher's phone

21:48:32 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: you first peggy

21:48:42 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: now there is an Option, CHERI!!

21:48:51 [Message] Maureen -> -EdTechTalk: What about the kids who live where there is no cell service?

21:48:53 [Message] JoNelle -> -EdTechTalk: Oh, thanks!- looking at qik too

21:48:54 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: are there some of these that can be done from a land line?

21:48:57 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I don't mean to gush, but WOW, I am learning a lot

21:48:57 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: HI Susan!

21:49:05 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: if they're doing this at home ... then use the land line if they don't have the cell

21:49:06 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Yes, Maurren

21:49:10 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Maureen

21:49:14 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: they do borrow each other's

21:49:20 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff-you mean you wouldn't let your students use your cell phone in your classroom to do an assignment?

21:49:24 [Message] susaneinhorn -> -EdTechTalk: Hi all

21:49:32 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: and this is why i don't do much txting

21:49:33 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Have bluetooth adapter I use to get photos off and podcasts onto my cell phone

21:49:47 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: so James -- you use cell phones with students as well??

21:50:18 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: Hi susan

21:50:25 [Message] Maureen -> -EdTechTalk: I don't have a cell phone- there isn't any service here. When the Verizon guy came to fix my landline, he was surprised- couldn't use his cell to check the line.

21:50:34 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: that's what i have - few phone call mins and unlimited txting

21:50:58 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Not yet, want to do a voice and photo digital storytelling project with student cell phones and mp3 players before the end of year

21:51:07 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: My younger sister never checks her email.  She just texts.

21:51:12 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: good point--doesn't always have to be cell phones--can be other electronic tools they already have like the Wii

21:51:31 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: thanks James  I will have questions when you do so

21:51:34 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: kids haven't used email for awhile

21:51:37 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: "bridging the gap"--good concept

21:51:41 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: there is so much that we need to avoid assuming in using phones

21:51:45 [Message] page -> -EdTechTalk: I have a 15 year old daughter that is ALL she does

21:51:49 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: I have to teach them how in middle school

21:52:31 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: My 14yo boy texts all day, rarely uses voice calls

21:52:41 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I want to try cell phone txting as clicker

21:52:47 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: <I do assume a lot Cheri -- cell phones is one area that I am really still very ignorant

21:53:05 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: James, how would you do that?

21:53:17 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: texting a response?

21:53:21 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the cell phone seems to be a natural substitute for clickers :-)

21:53:29 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: For the panel....What age do you introduce pones in the classroom? 

21:53:30 [Message] page -> -EdTechTalk: some families don't even have land lines anymore, they use cell phones

21:53:37 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Good question, Scott

21:53:41 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: lets ask the room too

21:53:48 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: using something like PollEverywhere is instant and easy on cell phones with texting

21:54:01 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: May 4th graders around here have phones.  My child does not.

21:54:11 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: what if their texts were on their phones?

21:54:22 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: 7th grade seems to be the break point

21:54:41 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Vinnie

21:55:34 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: how is gr8 that is for parent partnerships

21:55:35 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I like the first grade example. 

21:55:51 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm sure there are special management techniques teachers would want to use with cell phone projects

21:55:54 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: about 40% of my 3rd graders have cell phones, 60% have cell phones or mp3 player w/ record

21:56:12 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: @james - 3rd graders ... amazing

21:56:27 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: excellent point Jen--it doesn't have to be all or nothing

21:56:27 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: I think the cell phone is an untapped unrecognized and underappreciated resource for our classrooms

21:56:44 [Message] listening -> -EdTechTalk: use gabcast to have students summarize the class for the day and post to blog

21:56:54 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: Red Halo is a service that links so many devices together--like phones, iPods, Wiis, DSs, PSPs, and laptops. http://redhalo.com/devices.html

21:56:56 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: BUT...what do you do with the phones during an exam.   But them in a big basket? 

21:56:59 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: Many of the same issues arise with 1-1 laptop classrooms

21:57:08 [Message] sarah h -> -EdTechTalk: I like the basket idea!

21:57:12 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: there always has to be classroom management

21:57:14 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: It is very much like the laptops we use in our classrooms - appropriate times in class for it - not so appropriate time for it in our classes

21:57:22 [Message] listening -> -EdTechTalk: I've seen the basket in a class

21:57:25 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @Tony--Red Halo? That's a new one for me!

21:57:39 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: are the baskets a safe idea -- I would want to replace my phone with someone else's   :)

21:57:45 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: balance

21:57:47 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: not teacher control, but organization and basic agreements b/n teachers and students on when and how to use

21:57:48 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: so lucky to have tony Vincent here with us tonight!

21:57:50 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: Red Halo is from the U.K.

21:57:59 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Maybe a big multi-pocket thing on the wall....

21:58:04 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Can't wait to check out the link for Red Halo

21:58:40 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I like the POCKET thing -- safer

21:58:42 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: the kids all have the cellphones on their persons at all times anyway

21:58:49 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: It's kind of confusing at first--but you can take a photo on your cell phone and access it on your Wii, PSP, etc.

21:58:59 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: good idea with the pocket idea -- no accidental oh you dropped yours on mine

21:59:01 [Message] susaneinhorn -> -EdTechTalk: I would hate to put my cell phone in a basket - doesn't there need to be ssome trust between teacher and students

21:59:07 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Could just have cell phone off and visible at all times during tests

21:59:15 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: James -- that is a thought

21:59:18 [Message] VinnieVrotny -> -EdTechTalk: have a great week all.

21:59:21 [Message] page -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for this great information! 

21:59:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: http://virtualstaffroom.net/2008/09/27/episode-25-computer-in-my-pocket  this is an awesome podcast with Liz and Toni Twiss from NZ re cell phone uses. Check it out (after the show) :-)

21:59:25 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Vinnie for dropping by

21:59:48 [Message] joycevalenza -> -EdTechTalk: must run.  night everyone!

21:59:53 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Joyce

21:59:57 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: good to see you in the chat

21:59:58 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: bye Joyce

21:59:59 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Night Joyce

22:00:11 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: night Joyce - thanks for coming out tonight!

22:00:18 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: I liked the point made earlier.  Cell phones won't do everything you want them to do.  Sometimes lessons with cell phones seem too contrived.

22:00:37 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I agree Tony --

22:00:49 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: but I am feeling that about all tech right now

22:01:03 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: @Tony - right - as with any other tool. If it doesn't enhance the learning, don't use it ... including power point

22:01:08 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: It's still about the learning, not the tools. 

22:01:13 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes Tony. It's not about the tool but does it help you to do what you want to do in the best way possible. Great point.

22:01:19 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: but smiles -- THE TOOLS can be so FUN

22:01:27 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: agreed.

22:01:38 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: I know!  And I love to have fun!

22:01:38 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: Maybe we should ask some of our older students to be the ones to come up with the ideas for how to use the tech tools for education - wonder what they might come up with? My students usually blow me away!

22:01:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the tools definitely provide motivation!

22:01:48 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: @Jen - i try real hard not to subject my students to my hobbies

22:01:54 [Message] ld -> -EdTechTalk: What is the best place to organize/collect what you collect online?

22:01:55 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: :D

22:02:03 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: diigo

22:02:05 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: So is the learning through communication and digital media creation, overall?

22:02:06 [Message] JoNelle -> -EdTechTalk: @sharon great idea

22:02:15 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: "subject students to my hobbies" -- that's an interesting quote Cheri!

22:02:16 [Message] susaneinhorn -> -EdTechTalk: That's a great idea Sharon. They have much more fluency with the tools than most of us

22:02:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I agree re Diigo--that's my tool of choice for compiling resources!

22:03:21 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: Errr. I keep getting logged out of the chat when I switch windows.

22:03:23 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.iste.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Curriculum_Integration&TEMPL...

22:03:25 [Message] JoNelle -> -EdTechTalk: twitter did not start out out as an educator tool either

22:03:29 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Liz's book

22:03:30 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: Where can we find Liz's book?

22:03:35 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.iste.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Curriculum_Integration&TEMPL...

22:03:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that can be so frustrating--hard not to click on the links!!

22:03:47 [Message] ld -> -EdTechTalk: Do you mean when students call in with a certain task it goest to diigo? I have only used gcast.

22:04:04 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: Cool! Might have to pick up a copy to take with me to Africa next summer

22:04:08 [Message] ld -> -EdTechTalk: thanks.

22:04:10 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Liz-are you doing a radio show tomorrow?

22:04:35 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: I'm planning to host an online chat/podcast on the 28th for educators to share their favorite iPhone/iPod touch apps: http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/34884  Hope ya'll can participate.

22:04:56 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: @Tony - that's great

22:04:57 [Message] sharon -> -EdTechTalk: @tony thanks for sharing that info!! Would love to drop by!

22:05:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: her radio show is fantastic! well worth listening to. You can listen to the archives if you can't listen live.

22:05:20 [Message] Liz -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Peggy

22:05:22 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hooray Tony! That will be great!!!

22:05:39 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: now who would have guessed she would do a cellphone workshop

22:05:50 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: @ld   Try http://www.utterli.com     set up a common account for the entire class to use

22:06:14 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/elikeren Liz's radio show :-)

22:06:29 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Liz!!

22:06:33 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Need to use the tools myself so I can figure out how to use them with students for learning

22:07:04 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: just added those links to our DELICIOUS

22:07:14 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: thanks everyone for extending our conversation

22:07:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: really enjoyed the conversation tonight! always learn something new!

22:07:54 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Thnaks.  It was fun to add something to talk about.

22:08:00 [Message] Liz -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Tony, I enjoy your work

22:08:19 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: It's really incredible how the tools have changed in education over the years!

22:08:59 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Angela Maiers next time! She's a fantastic resource!!

22:09:06 [Message] susaneinhorn -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks - great  discussion!

22:09:17 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Bill Gates predicted several years ago that the cell phone will be the new laptop, he may be right

22:09:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Wow, Jen! What exciting news! Back to college! Congratulations!

22:09:56 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: too many changes

22:10:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: two shows a month in the future :-)

22:10:38 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: who?

22:10:47 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: never heard of her

22:10:53 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for another great conversation WOW2! See you next week!

22:11:09 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: a show every week is intense...I commend you all for doing a show per week for this long...way to go WOW crew!

22:11:21 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: No ducking out now Durff :)

22:11:26 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: what about the Tribes guy?

22:11:39 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Night all!

22:11:50 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: when does that 2 shows begin?

22:12:05 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I just found the Tribes tips podcast on iTunes last week

22:12:09 [Message] tonyvincent -> -EdTechTalk: Nighty-night! Thanks everyone!

22:12:11 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: great show again learned so  much

22:12:27 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: there's a podcast James?

22:12:38 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: ow?

22:12:39 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Link to Podcast?

22:12:56 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: bye everyone!

22:13:01 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: have a great week

22:13:08 [Message] cheri t -> -EdTechTalk: i'll be trying to stay warm

22:13:12 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: yeah Educon!!

22:13:20 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: yes she does

22:13:36 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: sure she does

22:13:58 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: thanks all

22:14:09 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Good noght ladies....(hearing Music Man song in my head....)

22:14:12 [Message] DianeHammond -> -EdTechTalk: Night folks!

22:14:19 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: just lost stream

22:14:22 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: night

22:14:24 [Message] DianeHammond -> -EdTechTalk: see you at Educon sharon

22:14:29 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: yeppers -- stream is gone

22:14:31 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: and :)

22:14:35 [Message] JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: so are we.  Night all

22:14:40 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks all

22:15:36 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Tribe Tips podcast http://pdtogo.com/tribes/

22:16:18 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Hosted by Ben Hazzard and Shirley Sewell

22:16:32 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Great show

22:16:53 [Message] James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: night everyone