Wow 2.0 Show #34 Post NECC07 show

This week Sharon and Jen hold down the fort! The conversations are all about Post NECC. The raw audio will be along shortly. In the meantime, Derek Miller's Meltdown Man will sit in the audio holder.

Chat:

 20:06:17  sharonp  : yippee! was cooking with the stream

 20:06:20  sharonp  : all is well

 20:06:28  sharonp  : we should be able to record teh show live tonight

 20:09:58  mizmercer  : Hello

 20:10:01  mizmercer  : where are we?

 20:42:00  JenniferW  : hello

 20:52:37  JenniferW  : Hi Lisa

 20:53:43  JenniferW  : Hello Diane

 20:53:53  Diane Hammond  : Hi Jenifer!

 20:54:00  JenniferW  : how are you???

 20:54:19  Diane Hammond  : Great! Almost recovered from NECC :-)

 20:54:27  JenniferW  : wish I was -- I am still exhausted

 20:54:40  JenniferW  : not quite sure why

 20:55:10  Diane Hammond  : That's because i only went for the weekend! I'll train for next year :)

 20:55:46  JenniferW  : hmmm you found the revolving door I see

 20:55:52  Diane Hammond  : do we have sound yet?

 20:55:57  JenniferW  : nope

 20:56:16  Diane Hammond  : OK, i got kicked out looking for it

 20:56:19  JenniferW  : Sharon's doing it tonight

 20:56:27  JenniferW  : so quick prayers -- it is her first time

 20:56:31  Diane Hammond  : A or B?

 20:56:36  JenniferW  : will be A

 20:56:40  JenniferW  : but not yet

 20:56:57  Diane Hammond  : ok, i'll stay away from the revolving door

 20:57:03  JenniferW  : grins  --- good

 20:57:14  JenniferW  : So Diane you only went for Edublogger??

 20:57:44  Diane Hammond  : Yes, that's all i could afford timewise!!!

 20:57:55  Diane Hammond  : Did you see David Warlick's video of Edubloggercon?

 20:57:56  JenniferW  : ahhhh -- I got to EduB -- really late

 20:57:59  JenniferW  : just did

 20:58:08  Diane Hammond  : He did a good job!

 20:58:16  JenniferW  : looks like he had fun

 20:59:51  JenniferW  : we are streaming

 20:59:54  JenniferW  : someone check please

 21:00:18  Diane Hammond  : Echo...echo...

 21:00:25  JenniferW  : who???

 21:00:32  Diane Hammond  : sharon

 21:00:40  JenniferW  : we don't know how to fix it -- Guest 478 DAVE??

 21:01:02  Diane Hammond  : yes, i can hear you

 21:02:15  vincej  : yes

 21:02:48  Diane Hammond  : it's still there

 21:02:52  vincej  : yes still here echo

 21:03:09  sharonp  : the echo is driving me crazy

 21:03:18  sharonp  : am streaming for the first time

 21:03:52  vincej  : can we  minimize the echo

 21:04:59  Diane Hammond  : We're a kind lot!

 21:05:13  vincej  : sharon is echoing

 21:05:19  Durff  : meow

 21:05:21  vincej  : jen is good and the cats sounds fine

 21:05:56  lawtona  : Hi there, sorry to interrupt, I'm looking for Women of the Web, 9:00?

 21:05:56  Durff  : thats an echo

 21:06:04  Colleen  : This is it.

 21:06:06  JenniferW  : http://lesliefranke.com/files/reference/firefoxcheatsheet.pdf

 21:06:08  vincej  : sharon still echoes..or is it the Mac

 21:06:16  lawtona  : Oops, thanks.

 21:06:27  Durff  : we love the echo anyway

 21:06:27  vincej  : hi anne you are in the right place..vince

 21:06:36  lawtona  : thanks Vince

 21:07:16  JenniferW  : http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA100744321033.aspx?pid=CH1004874...

 21:08:51  vincej  : jen do you have the ff pdf link?

 21:08:56  JenniferW  : http://www.instructables.com/about/

 21:10:13  Durff  : cool - thanks!

 21:10:44  vincej  : that is neat

 21:11:24  Durff  : hi colleen

 21:11:46  Colleen  : Hi Durff! I've heard so much about you.

 21:12:02  Colleen  : You're in the comments a lot.

 21:12:06  JenniferW  : Hi Kristy

 21:12:21  Colleen  : I'm Colleen.

 21:12:22  JenniferW  : yes, Vincaz

 21:12:26  JenniferW  : LOL -- Hi Colleen

 21:12:31  Colleen  : Hi Jen

 21:12:35  JenniferW  : http://lesliefranke.com/files/reference/firefoxcheatsheet.pdf

 21:12:45  vincej  : tks jen

 21:12:51  sharonp  : http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/archives/002978.html

 21:13:48  vincej  : http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/07/02/the-olympics-effect-theory/

 21:13:58  sharonp  : thanks Vince, my next point

 21:14:56  sharonp  : this might be a good topic for Diane to contribute - about the edubloggercon - Graham Wegner's blog post about olympics effect theory

 21:15:16  JenniferW  : http://thejournal.com/articles/17325

 21:15:33  sharonp  : I know Diane is Canadian and I know she was at the edubloggercon (thanks for introducing yourself to me!)

 21:16:57  vincej  : tks Jen great for my grad course!

 21:17:04  alexr  : Can you pop that link back in the chat, again, Jen?

 21:17:11  alexr  : The Journal article?

 21:17:43  JenniferW  : http://thejournal.com/articles/17325

 21:18:28  alexr  : Thanks.

 21:18:33  JenniferW  : you are welcome

 21:18:38  guest478  : http://www.webcastacademy.net/node/908

 21:18:48  Durff  : i liked his post

 21:19:12  Diane Hammond  : I didn't notice that I was Canadian, except that i don't have a funny accent.

 21:19:13  JenniferW  : welcome Vince

 21:19:23  Durff  : can i ignore guest478?

 21:19:30  Diane Hammond  : The issues we discussed were not American.

 21:19:38  JenniferW  : LOL -- you could but now that you have announced it -- LOL -- kinda rude  :)

 21:20:03  Durff  : exactly

 21:20:06  guest478  : google search for "nicecast host echo" first response

 21:20:19  Diane Hammond  : Issues such as large-scale assessment driving instruction pertain to Canada as well as the US.

 21:21:43  guest478  : it certainly is...

 21:21:43  guest478  : Montreal is a pretty good town

 21:21:55  Durff  : yes!

 21:22:01  Diane Hammond  : Edubloggercon by nature I think is more international than NECC itself.

 21:22:13  Diane Hammond  : Montreal is a great place for a conference!!!

 21:22:53  sharonp  : good point Diane!!

 21:23:39  guest478  : is this graham wegner you're talking about/

 21:23:40  guest478  : ?

 21:23:46  vincej  : yes

 21:23:48  Durff  : me?

 21:23:50  Diane Hammond  : NECC is not promoted in Canada.

 21:23:51  Durff  : yes

 21:24:02  guest478  : he's a little touchy about the US centered thing http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/12/29/grahams-non-authorative-2006-list...

 21:24:02  sharonp  : I agree Diane

 21:24:05  guest478  : :)

 21:24:17  Durff  : philly is a good place for a conference too

 21:24:30  Durff  : jan 26th

 21:24:34  vincej  : NECC wa sin Philly 2 years ago

 21:24:34  Colleen  : Philly gets my vote!

 21:24:41  Colleen  : Too bad.

 21:24:47  Durff  : you coming?

 21:24:54  Diane Hammond  : NECC is also pretty expensive and school boards tend not to fund out of country conferences.

 21:24:58  vincej  : sure

 21:24:59  Durff  : educon20?

 21:25:00  JenniferW  : Philly is again in 5 years I believe

 21:25:07  JenniferW  : 2012??

 21:25:09  guest478  : jails are bad EVERYWHERE

 21:25:16  Durff  : no 2008

 21:25:21  Diane Hammond  : You can survive in Montreal en anglais

 21:25:21  Durff  : at SLA

 21:25:25  JenniferW  : 2008 is San Antonio

 21:25:31  guest478  : Tu pense tu?

 21:25:32  JenniferW  : 2009 is Washington DC

 21:25:44  Durff  : ok two different conferences

 21:25:47  Diane Hammond  : Je pense que oui

 21:26:11  Diane Hammond  : I'm sorry i missed the International reception!

 21:26:35  guest478  : guest out... happy webcasting :)

 21:26:37  vincej  : food was better at int reception!!

 21:27:01  Durff  : ubye?

 21:27:23  sharonp  : hah! no food at grand opening!

 21:27:40  Durff  : sprechen Sie Deutsch?

 21:27:41  Diane Hammond  : I said you could survive in Montreal in english (en anglais)

 21:27:51  sharonp  : oui

 21:27:54  vincej  : yes

 21:27:57  Durff  : vielen dank

 21:28:08  sharonp  : like me - I almost never use French here

 21:28:10  Colleen  : hip hip hooray for the bloggers cafe

 21:28:16  vincej  : te groeten allemal

 21:28:19  Durff  : amen

 21:28:57  Colleen  : Peggy Sheehy

 21:29:09  Durff  : hi doug

 21:29:20  DS  : Hey Lisa, and all

 21:29:23  sharonp  : an alternative to SL = http://www.umindsoft.com/

 21:29:39  DS  : wooohooo Second Life!

 21:30:00  Durff  : yea SL

 21:30:19  Colleen  : Durff, who are you in SL?

 21:30:36  DS  : hang gliding too

 21:31:37  Diane Hammond  : I still haven't been in Second Life ...  maybe when I retire

 21:31:58  Durff  : me?

 21:32:02  Colleen  : Yes

 21:32:12  Durff  : edith halderman

 21:32:29  Colleen  : Oh...that sounds familiar

 21:32:34  Diane Hammond  : BRAVO!

 21:32:36  Durff  : :)

 21:33:20  Colleen  : DS, who are you in Second Life?

 21:33:51  Durff  : intellectual?

 21:34:26  DS  : sorry multitasking

 21:34:30  DS  : I'm Cosmo Commons

 21:34:41  DS  : Doug Symington in RL

 21:34:44  Durff  : i thought only women did that

 21:34:49  Diane Hammond  : I got to interview will richardson in the warm-up and he told me if is actually pretty quiet and doesn't like to talk in public. you wouldn't know that from his blog.

 21:34:49  Colleen  : Cosmo, I'm Kristy Flanagan.

 21:35:12  sharonp  : yes Diane, I know others like that

 21:35:26  Durff  : a guest book in SL offices would be nice

 21:37:52  Durff  : she was happy with your help too

 21:38:01  DS  : Colleen/Kristy--believe we've met--saw your counting robot

 21:38:11  DS  : most impressive

 21:38:18  DS  : in SL

 21:38:20  Colleen  : Yes, you showed me your parcel of land.

 21:38:29  DS  : yes

 21:38:35  DS  : good to "see" you again

 21:38:42  Colleen  : You, too!

 21:39:22  Durff  : democratic, it was?

 21:40:18  sharonp  : twitter.com

 21:40:49  Durff  : but WOW was there!

 21:41:13  DS  : that's great JDub--workin' the room!

 21:41:39  Durff  : always up for a good time

 21:42:01  Diane Hammond  : cokie crumbs

 21:42:05  Diane Hammond  : cookie

 21:42:10  sharonp  : what is the SL address

 21:42:30  JenniferW  : just a second

 21:42:49  Durff  : choc. chip

 21:43:05  Durff  : :) good name

 21:43:41  JenniferW  : http://www.bretagdesigns.com/technologist/?p=277

 21:43:46  Durff  : i wish i was thhere

 21:43:49  JenniferW  : that is Ryan's Bretag

 21:43:55  JenniferW  : Blog

 21:44:04  Diane Hammond  : There were a number of peole who skyped in who probably feel like thye were at NECC

 21:44:25  Durff  : i wish

 21:44:39  Durff  : :(

 21:45:06  JenniferW  : Hey Doug

 21:45:17  Durff  : ME!

 21:45:18  Diane Hammond  : Great idea!

 21:45:49  DS  : the other thing for conferencing of note, like NECC

 21:46:08  DS  : is to make sure that media is archived for those who would like/can't make it

 21:46:24  DS  : of course that's licensed by the respective assoc, but....

 21:46:29  Durff  : and don't depend on

 21:46:29  JenniferW  : http://svr43.ehostpros.com/~theblo43/

 21:46:35  JenniferW  : that is the blogger's cafe link

 21:46:43  JenniferW  : it should resolve in the next 24 hours

 21:46:44  Durff  : NECC to do it

 21:47:02  Durff  : really?

 21:47:11  Durff  : JDub?

 21:47:24  Durff  : Hi Karen

 21:47:31  KarenJanowski  : Hi, all!

 21:47:41  KarenJanowski  : almost forgot about WOW tonight!

 21:47:46  KarenJanowski  : what's the topic?

 21:47:49  JenniferW  : JDub -- tis ME

 21:47:53  Durff  : NECC

 21:47:55  JenniferW  : Karen -- we are doing a recap

 21:48:01  KarenJanowski  : excellent!

 21:48:02  JenniferW  : we are chatting about Twitter.com

 21:48:24  Durff  : Twitku

 21:48:33  Durff  : not Twitter

 21:48:41  Durff  : but Twitku

 21:49:12  Durff  : it's community

 21:50:17  Diane Hammond  : So how big do you want your twitter network to be?

 21:50:21  KarenJanowski  : so Twitter worked great at NECC - how about in our classrooms?

 21:50:34  Diane Hammond  : do you turn down twitter requests?

 21:50:35  Durff  : it could

 21:50:44  sharonp  : I think Jeff has something like 150 peeps in his twitter network

 21:50:47  Durff  : but i like meebo for kids

 21:51:00  sharonp  : I am careful with my twitter requests

 21:51:02  KarenJanowski  : what do you see as the difference?

 21:51:09  Diane Hammond  : Do "complete strangers" ask to be added to your twitter network?

 21:51:20  sharonp  : haven't had too many complete strangers

 21:51:25  Diane Hammond  : do you check people out first?

 21:51:36  sharonp  : have had some corporate twitter users try to include me

 21:51:41  Durff  : meebo widget comes to me only

 21:51:54  Durff  : parents like that

 21:51:58  sharonp  : can be used as a positive form of backchanneling for students

 21:52:12  DS  : that Adam Frey show was great too! One of the "lost classics"

 21:52:12  Durff  : older

 21:52:17  KarenJanowski  : Durff - so more control?

 21:52:25  Durff  : yes

 21:52:28  sharonp  : like any tech tool - neither good nor evil, but how one uses it

 21:52:33  KarenJanowski  : that's an advantage

 21:53:00  Durff  : middle school aren't mature enogh for twitter

 21:53:17  Durff  : i had that level

 21:53:28  Durff  : last year

 21:53:40  Durff  : hi tracie

 21:53:58  KarenJanowski  : seems like all the "NECCites" came home changed people!!

 21:54:12  Diane Hammond  : I can see the value at a big conference like NECC, but i'm not so sure on a daily basis.

 21:55:04  Durff  : but diane-it keeps one in touch

 21:55:21  Durff  : connects us to other people

 21:55:33  KarenJanowski  : one of my concerns is that we are reducing the attention spans of our kids

 21:55:35  Diane Hammond  : I think i need to try it.

 21:55:48  sharonp  : good point Karen

 21:55:48  Durff  : ok - add me

 21:55:55  KarenJanowski  : i see that with my own kids - if a youtube video is longer than about four minutes, they skip it

 21:56:09  DS  : I had a someone send out a "social networks taking down LAN" article

 21:56:13  KarenJanowski  : too long

 21:56:15  sharonp  : this is the age we live in - instant gratification

 21:56:20  DS  : after a presentation re Facebook

 21:56:22  KarenJanowski  : yes!

 21:56:37  DS  : tonnes o' resistance to IM and networks

 21:56:41  Durff  : i have a short span

 21:56:48  Durff  : think of kids

 21:56:49  KarenJanowski  : Durff - lol

 21:56:55  sharonp  : yes, there certainly is quite a lot of resistance

 21:57:14  Durff  : yea skype

 21:57:17  KarenJanowski  : DS - what is LAN?

 21:57:24  Diane Hammond  : That skype chat floored me!

 21:57:25  DS  : Local Area Network

 21:57:27  DS  : sorry

 21:57:35  KarenJanowski  : of course!

 21:57:36  JenniferW  : http://www.flickr.com/photos/jutecht/654358254/

 21:57:41  DS  : all sync stuff is "bad" in this model

 21:57:43  Diane Hammond  : I don't think my brain can handle all the stimulus.

 21:57:55  Durff  : sure it can

 21:58:04  DS  : essentially diametrically opposed to what's being discussed

 21:58:08  Diane Hammond  : with people who weren't even there

 21:58:10  DS  : in terms of connections online

 21:58:20  Durff  : why?

 21:58:55  DS  : threatens the existing way of "doing business" -- vested interests and all

 21:59:03  Durff  : oh

 21:59:33  Durff  : "because we have always done it that way" syndrome

 21:59:39  DS  : xactly

 21:59:46  Durff  : pooh

 22:00:17  DS  : sorry to hear that Sharon

 22:01:18  KarenJanowski  : the men were very active blogginga bout NECC

 22:01:25  KarenJanowski  : didn't see as many posts from women

 22:01:35  JenniferW  : I posted 2 times a day

 22:01:37  JenniferW  : or tried to

 22:01:47  KarenJanowski  : but you've been quiet lately, Jenn

 22:01:55  JenniferW  : Karen -- LOL

 22:01:57  JenniferW  : really??

 22:02:01  Diane Hammond  : Thanks everybody! fun evening!

 22:02:02  JenniferW  : I have created two new sites

 22:02:05  KarenJanowski  : am i missing your posts?

 22:02:10  KarenJanowski  : oh

 22:02:15  Durff  : and guest478

 22:02:15  JenniferW  : and 2 newsletters

 22:02:22  DS  : yes, thanks all

 22:02:23  JenniferW  : but I shall try to do better

 22:02:24  vincej  : thanks Jen and Sharon..great job hostesses

 22:02:31  KarenJanowski  : they aren't being picked up on my reader

 22:02:37  Durff  : night johnboy

 22:02:38  JenniferW  : did you know I have changed blogs

 22:02:44  JenniferW  : http://www.technospud.com/blogs

 22:02:48  DS  : Lisa lol

 22:02:51  KarenJanowski  : ok, i have to update!!

 22:02:55  JenniferW  : great

 22:02:58  DS  : cya all

 22:03:02  JenniferW  : night Doug

 22:03:05  KarenJanowski  : that's why i haven't seen anything from u lately

 22:03:11  JenniferW  : probably   LOL

 22:03:15  JenniferW  : anyone going to SL??

 22:03:23  KarenJanowski  : that link didn't work

 22:03:30  JenniferW  : www.technospud.com/blog

 22:03:32  JenniferW  : one blog

 22:03:55  KarenJanowski  : there you are!

 22:04:06  JenniferW  : are we still streaming

 22:04:12  Diane Hammond  : No

 22:04:20  KarenJanowski  : thanks for the update!!

 22:05:20  KarenJanowski  : just added your new blog to my reader, thanks

 22:05:30  KarenJanowski  : good night all!

 22:05:31  sharonp  : I have to go and pay attention to my sis-in-law

 22:58:07  [email protected]  : dare  cathy