EdTechWeekly#128

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EdTechWeekly#128
May 17, 2009

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18:46:24  minhaaj ->  Ah its Oovoo today.
18:46:30  minhaaj ->  used it quite sometime ago
18:47:10  gary ->  Understood - I think.
18:49:07  minhaaj ->  whys daves voice a little distorted?
18:49:09  minhaaj ->  is he on phone?
18:49:47  minhaaj ->  get a better mic
18:49:49  minhaaj ->  :)
18:51:30  minhaaj ->  Ready for the WIAOC Jeff. Lotsa work
18:51:38  minhaaj ->  but you indefatigable.
18:52:35  minhaaj ->  18 here, 17th yours.
18:53:20  gary ->  Dave be?
18:54:07  minhaaj ->  80%, its a netbook?
18:54:12  minhaaj ->  oh isn't it Ace Aspire
18:54:16  minhaaj ->  Dave bought a new one right?
18:55:25  sheila ->  I had a bad day with skype today during Conversations. Dropped me about 6 or 7 times.
18:55:37  minhaaj ->  it was rain IMO Sheila.
18:55:43  minhaaj ->  Hey Peggy. Again.
18:55:52  sheila ->  :)
18:56:09  PeggyG ->  Hi Minhaaj
18:56:23  PeggyG ->  Hi all
18:56:58  Alvin Trusty ->  Use Tree tab
18:57:04  minhaaj ->  i have no idea how do you get this red icon with your name in chatbox. is it when you login with the master password or something?
18:57:14  sheila ->  Ask Peggy about the 27 tabs!
18:57:34  JohnS ->  @alvin on a 9" screen?
18:57:39  sheila ->  @Minhaaj - yes, it's a special account
18:57:43  PeggyG ->  tooo funny!! yes I have some experience with that!
18:57:54  minhaaj ->  ahh cool.
18:58:40  Riptide ->  me too I can use a beer
18:58:41  minhaaj ->  i would like a netbook since i keep moving, but i love the robustness of my Dell. I hear it doesnt work as good as this one does. but again its a netbook.
18:58:43  PeggyG ->  Think I'm listening to the geeks of the week :-)
18:59:22  JL ->  these guys are geeks every week :)
18:59:34  minhaaj ->  You better be at Open Ed Dave. Sounds like fun with Wiley and Downes together on their.
18:59:37  PeggyG ->  I know--why do you think I keep coming back :-)
19:00:00  minhaaj ->  It would be published in the form of book after it
19:00:06  minhaaj ->  yes its boring and useless
19:00:08  minhaaj ->  i have!
19:00:25  minhaaj ->  lol
19:00:35  PeggyG ->  how do you get such clear audio for this show? need tutorials for some of the other ETT shows.
19:00:48  minhaaj ->  Unlike TV you can't change the channel in a conference
19:00:55  minhaaj ->  you're stuck with them :)
19:00:57  minhaaj ->  Hey matt
19:01:13  matt montagne ->  hey there minhaaj!
19:01:21  PeggyG ->  yes-no background hiss and hum :-)
19:02:02  Cathy E ->  I had to turn off UStream
19:02:08  Cathy E ->  terrible weather here
19:02:21  PeggyG ->  how are you listening Cathy E?
19:02:30  Cathy E ->  Listening via Media Player - sounds great
19:03:16  JohnS ->  250 watts? Wimp.
19:03:39  dave ->  http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Acer-Aspire-netbook,review-1131.html
19:03:49  matt montagne ->  all right...netbook hour on ETT!!!
19:03:55  matt montagne ->  I'm a big fan of the aspire one
19:04:08  matt montagne ->  we evaluated the 9" and really liked it
19:04:16  minhaaj ->  Asus EEEPC is close.
19:04:37  JohnS ->  I've had a lot of trouble with the Atheros wifi card in the eeepc though
19:04:38  matt montagne ->  Asus is nice too minjhaaj, but has a really unfortunate right shift key
19:04:48  minhaaj ->  how do you install windows if you mess up yours without a super drive again?
19:04:50  JohnS ->  And performance in Windows is really bad in the eee
19:05:00  matt montagne ->  but, you can hook that thing up to an external display and you r good to go
19:05:10  minhaaj ->  wouldn't know matt. lets take your word on it but it got real bad reviews
19:05:29  matt montagne ->  I hooked up our HP Mini 10" to a 24" display and it works great
19:06:04  Cathy E ->  I love my netbook
19:06:05  matt montagne ->  @minhaaj...I can get used to any keyboard, but the asus has this really tiny right shift key in a weird location
19:06:11  JL ->  http://content.dell.com/us/en/home/della.aspx
19:06:16  minhaaj ->  gig of a ram and 1.6 mhz does most things if you don't start gaming on it
19:06:43  minhaaj ->  smaller for even your pinky matt?
19:06:50  minhaaj ->  you must've real big bones :)
19:07:06  matt montagne ->  @minhaaj :-)
19:07:08  JL ->  http://community.elgg.org/
19:07:15  gary ->  Mini 10 Promise Pink
19:07:20  Cathy E ->  Go Dell
19:07:40  PeggyG ->  we'll give you a woman's perspective next week after we get a chance to review it :-)
19:07:55  JohnS ->  WordCamp Columbus: http://wordcampcolumbus.com/  and WordCamp Columbus -  Mixed Review: http://www.mikemcbrideonline.com/2009/05/wordcamp-columbus-mixed-review....
19:07:59  minhaaj ->  hehe. turn it back on Jeff Peggy.
19:09:28  Alvin Trusty ->  I was surprised by the number of things people were using WP to do.  Not just blogs.
19:09:37  dave ->  http://www.linux-netbook.com/tags/netbook-comparison
19:09:59  PeggyG ->  Very intriguing comment Alvin!
19:10:05  dave ->  http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
19:10:17  dave ->  http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html
19:11:01  Cathy E ->  conferences are a good thing
19:11:21  Alvin Trusty ->  What Linux apps do you need to run?
19:11:44  minhaaj ->  theres a whole range out there. OO.org for sure
19:12:03  minhaaj ->  you could use 'damn small linux' and 'puppy linux'
19:12:09  minhaaj ->  you could run it off of usb too
19:13:09  minhaaj ->  and then make a ghost to make other people's life easier who are using your model
19:13:10  minhaaj ->  :)
19:13:29  matt montagne ->  netbooks are looking more like laptops and laptops are looking more like netbooks
19:13:33  gary ->  So is Dave still going to buy a Apple netbook if it comes out?
19:14:16  minhaaj ->  only thing keeping me away from a netbook is the perceived performance concerns. dvd drive is one intimidating factor
19:14:20  minhaaj ->  :)
19:15:25  JL ->  http://www.usnowfilm.com/  http://vimeo.com/4489849
19:15:56  JL ->  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/World-Record-Attempt-in-Paris
19:16:17  sheila ->  No songs repeated
19:16:25  JohnS ->  WordPress.tv: http://wordpress.tv/ 
19:16:27  minhaaj ->  and no rest ?
19:16:43  sheila ->  15 minutes every 3 hours
19:16:54  minhaaj ->  doesn't count towards a record then heh
19:17:10  JohnS ->  WordCast Podcast: http://wordcastpodcast.com/
19:17:22  JohnS ->  WordPress Weekly Podcast: http://www.wptavern.com/category/wordpress-weekly
19:17:35  minhaaj ->  I think blogspot pawns wp. atleast for the free version
19:18:04  dave ->  http://blip.fm/home
19:18:28  Alvin Trusty ->  @minhaaj Can I put blogspot on my server?
19:19:12  minhaaj ->  nope because there is no paid version and you don't need it because you can change themes without having to put it on server
19:19:26  minhaaj ->  can't do it with free wp blog.
19:19:45  lldenmark ->  Has anyone used twitter to take class attendance?
19:19:55  minhaaj ->  gotta put it on your webhost, having one being a prerequisite, is a prob.
19:20:16  Riptide ->  prepare for #musicmonday on Twitter
19:21:18  kcaise ->  apparently less after hearing that playlist
19:21:21  JL ->  http://www.freshbrain.org/
19:21:35  dave ->  @kcaise it does kinda situate me doesn't it :)
19:21:53  JL ->  http://www.genyes.com/
19:22:15  JohnS ->  Hacking Education: http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2008/11/hacking-educati.html
19:22:26  kcaise ->  lol @dave
19:22:32  matt montagne ->  Isn't Gen Yes Sylvia Martinez's organization??
19:22:47  kcaise ->  yes it is matt
19:22:49  minhaaj ->  Jenn is online. guess you should get her Jeff
19:22:54  PeggyG ->  yes gor Gen Yes-Sylvia
19:23:11  kcaise ->  fresh brain is having a summer java program to learn to program java
19:23:36  matt montagne ->  grades, academic departments, age groupings of students, standardized test scores, etc...all barriers to new ways of learning
19:23:45  gary ->  But do they stay teachers?
19:24:03  kcaise ->  good point @gary
19:24:14  matt montagne ->  the one room school house had it right in many ways
19:24:24  gary ->  Often they get other options because of their skill.
19:24:25  dave ->  http://mini-itx.com/
19:25:49  dave ->  http://mini-itx.com/2009/05/12/zotac-ion-itx-a-motherboard-review
19:26:13  minhaaj ->  sort of hyperthreaded dual core
19:26:33  minhaaj ->  but with Intel Atom mb
19:27:00  minhaaj ->  dunno if it beats pure intel
19:27:08  minhaaj ->  gotta be a performance test.
19:27:16  minhaaj ->  it'd be in netbooks most prolly.
19:27:24  minhaaj ->  bcoz they are the ones using Atoms mostly.
19:27:46  gary ->  Dave went off to geekville!
19:27:56  JL ->  http://www.ensode.net/pdf-crack.jsf
19:28:04  gary ->  Should we talk Fortran?
19:28:19  JL ->  http://voipcallrecording.com/
19:28:52  minhaaj ->  did anyone try Pamela for Skype?
19:29:09  JL ->  http://indispensibletools.pbworks.com/
19:29:13  minhaaj ->  didn't work for me
19:29:38  JohnS ->  Fantastic Contraption: http://fantasticcontraption.com/index.php
19:29:43  PeggyG ->  Call Recorder works great on a Mac-cheap-maybe $20.
19:29:59  Riptide ->  I heart fantastic contraption
19:30:06  PeggyG ->  Drew's list is very helpful
19:30:22  JohnS ->  Social Studies Central: http://www.socialstudiescentral.com/
19:31:04  JL ->  list of  skype recorders: http://www.webcastacademy.net/book/recording-both-ends-telephony-call
19:31:04  dave ->  http://www05.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=november+23,+1974
19:31:28  minhaaj ->  oh come on wolframalpha
19:31:34  minhaaj ->  fiasco :)
19:31:59  gary ->  Dave is so young!
19:32:03  Alvin Trusty ->  the video is cool
19:32:05  minhaaj ->  traffic is killing it. or atleast the review tells us :)
19:32:50  PeggyG ->  Very interesting data available through WolframAlpha just for students to practice analyzing data
19:32:52  Riptide ->  and you trust Google?
19:33:04  minhaaj ->  you read my mind there Riptide
19:33:09  matt montagne ->  ahh, the importance of information triangulation
19:33:14  JohnS ->  no, but Google gives me links to other resources, and I can tell where that data is coming from.
19:33:14  minhaaj ->  its just out there. Their way or the highway :)
19:33:24  JohnS ->  WA is giving info without the context
19:33:25  PeggyG ->  it can be a great impetus to validate the information
19:33:47  Riptide ->  I put ion this link http://smarterware.org/1538/fun-with-computations-at-wolframalpha
19:34:03  Riptide ->  *in
19:34:07  matt montagne ->  love the University of Wisconsin shout out!! Go Bucky!!!
19:34:12  minhaaj ->  uni of wisconsin?
19:34:18  minhaaj ->  is there a seach engine with them?
19:34:24  Alvin Trusty ->  We have to see how people use it. 
19:34:35  JL ->  http://kindersay.com/
19:34:36  Alvin Trusty ->  Alta Vista
19:34:40  Riptide ->  comparing it to google is WRONG
19:35:00  gary ->  Now I know why so many friends had my first name: http://www05.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Gary+name
19:35:02  JohnS ->  Facebook Foils Canadian Lawsuits: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090510.wfacebooktri...
19:35:05  dave ->  @Riptide you almost seem like you have an opinion on this...
19:35:08  minhaaj ->  lol @ talking to me
19:35:08  matt montagne ->  hey , that is really cool!
19:35:15  dave ->  i compare it to google because that's how it's going to be thought of
19:35:57  Riptide ->  @Dave yes I thought it was put against Google too but wolfram is different.
19:36:29  gary ->  Yes the comments!
19:36:30  dave ->  @riptide but people wont see it that way
19:36:31  matt montagne ->  at some point, some company will knock google off its throne...while google search is fantastic, I still think there is a great deal of room for innovation...
19:37:16  Riptide ->  but Wolfram is a different tool.
19:37:45  minhaaj ->  gotta jet . 5 in the morning. bye all. great show.
19:37:46  dave ->  http://fit-pc2.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
19:37:48  PeggyG ->  do any laptops have battery life? what's the best?
19:38:40  JL ->  sleep well Minhaaj
19:38:49  matt montagne ->  nite minhaaj
19:38:50  JL ->  or enjoy the day
19:38:56  matt montagne ->  good to catch up with you minhaaj
19:39:42  JL ->  http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/article.php/3820211/Does-Googles-Recent...
19:40:03  matt montagne ->  Turning your netbook into a desktop: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjmonty/3350143436/
19:40:33  matt montagne ->  I've posted that photo here before, so sorry bout that...but it just shows how you can dock your netbook with a larger display, full sized keyboard, and nice mouse
19:41:17  JohnS ->  One Million Monkeys Typing: http://www.1000000monkeys.com/
19:41:23  kcaise ->  wasn't it mentioned in the newsletter too Jeff?
19:41:27  gary ->  It feels great to be neglected.
19:41:36  JL ->  indeed, our fine newsletter
19:41:44  kcaise ->  absolutely
19:41:44  PeggyG ->  everybody should join the fan page :-) we put it in the ETT newsletter this week
19:42:01  matt montagne ->  I've really enjoyed the newletter...kudos to the newsletter elves
19:42:36  Riptide ->  http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/43451 Twitter search results when you search google Greasemonkey script
19:42:38  PeggyG ->  thanks Matt!
19:42:49  JohnS ->  Stupeflix: http://www.stupeflix.com/
19:43:29  dave ->  http://eeepc.net/9-cell-battery-for-acer-aspire-one/
19:44:20  matt montagne ->  wow, that must last all day! The six cell batteries are impressive in that they give you 5-6 hours...
19:44:47  kcaise ->  must be an amazing newsletter team!
19:45:04  PeggyG ->  I'm smiling Kim :-)
19:45:16  kcaise ->  well deserved @peggy
19:45:42  PeggyG ->  can't wait for the Convergence unconference! going to be fantastic!
19:45:57  gary ->  Dave URL?
19:46:21  kcaise ->  where are you presenting again dave?
19:46:23  PeggyG ->  we'll be there for you :-)
19:46:31  matt montagne ->  we'll be there, but... ;-)
19:46:35  Riptide ->  Thanks everyone! :D
19:46:42  kcaise ->  my thoughts exactly @matt, lol
19:46:56  PeggyG ->  thanks everyone
19:47:04  gary ->  @ dave: and remind us of the time
19:47:05  matt montagne ->  sell out!
19:47:19  JohnS ->  noon eastern on Sunday
19:47:45  JL ->  http://wiaoc.org/
19:47:59  sheila ->  Thanks all!
19:48:05  gary ->  @JohnS - thanks
19:48:16  PeggyG ->  http://wiaoc09.pbworks.com/schedule
19:48:40  JL ->  http://wiaoc09.pbworks.com/DaveCormier
19:48:55  PeggyG ->  the keynote speakers are truly amazing!!!
19:49:00  dave ->  http://wiaoc09.pbworks.com/DaveCormier
19:49:10  matt montagne ->  name change
19:49:13  kcaise ->  pbwiki is now pbworks
19:49:17  matt montagne ->  PBWiki changed their name
19:49:23  matt montagne ->  about 4 weeks ago I believe
19:49:31  PeggyG ->  new name for pbworks
19:49:46  matt montagne ->  a take off on MS Works or somethign I'm guessing...
19:49:56  matt montagne ->  perhaps PBWiki seemed to geeky or something
19:50:12  dave ->  http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/05/09/wiaoc-you-cant-collaborate-alon...
19:50:22  kcaise ->  i think their theory is they have proven the wiki works and is as easy to use as peanut butter and jelly
19:50:29  matt montagne ->  very cool Dave! Definitely out of the box
19:50:40  matt montagne ->  that is my hypothesis JS
19:51:22  kcaise ->  this group fight and argue over something?
19:51:25  kcaise ->  no way
19:51:25  matt montagne ->  very cool Dave!
19:53:34  PeggyG ->  sounds like a challenge we can't resist :-)
19:53:46  gary ->  @dave:  Remind us on Twitter.
19:55:47  matt montagne ->  talk to Vance Stevens...that guy is the master at bringing in folks without knowing much about how the audio quality
19:55:49  dave ->  http://cribchronicles.org
19:55:55  dave ->  http://cribchronicles.com
19:56:09  Riptide ->  Happy Birthday Mr. Shinker
19:56:16  gary ->  Victoria Day - the Canadian spring holiday to spend time in the garden or camping and drinking beer.
19:58:21  PeggyG ->  Hi Cheri T-how's your research coming along?
19:58:44  Cheri T ->  Hi Peggy - I'm going to send out the survey as soon as I get IRB permission
19:59:00  PeggyG ->  excellent!!
19:59:33  Cheri T ->  i'll be sending out a pilot to get feedback soon
19:59:57  kcaise ->  never hurts to backup the backups
20:00:05  Riptide ->  @JL I was just wondring if this was the interesting banter we missed on the podcast version
20:00:18  PeggyG ->  Send it out through ETT-great audience :-)
20:00:20  Alvin Trusty ->  Google "edit audio"
20:00:36  kcaise ->  have a great evening all
20:00:43  gary ->  Thanks again.
20:00:47  Riptide ->  Thanks guys!
20:01:05  Cheri T ->  PEggy I'll be skyping you :-)
20:01:12  PeggyG ->  bye all