EdTechWeekly#104 w/ guest host Sharon Peters

18:54:02  sharonp ->  hi folks
18:54:13  Gary ->  Sounds like sound effects for a science fiction movie (a very bad one)
18:56:22  arieliondotcom ->  No echo out here.
18:58:09  Cathy E ->  Yea, Dave
18:58:10  Gary ->  Happy Birthday!
18:58:18  Cathy E ->  Happy Birthday to you!
18:58:34  arieliondotcom ->  smell his breath!
18:58:41  Gary ->  Such a trial!
18:59:54  arieliondotcom ->  How did you charge it in the airport?
19:01:16  arieliondotcom ->  I hope its chocolate!
19:01:43  arieliondotcom ->  Only Dave.
19:01:52  arieliondotcom ->  You're not echoing for me, Sharon.
19:01:57  jan smith ->  The sound is fine
19:02:12  Cathy E ->  I don't hear the echo
19:02:18  arieliondotcom ->  It's not coming out on the recording folks.
19:02:23  arieliondotcom ->  You're fine.
19:02:24  sroseman ->  sound is great
19:02:43  Cathy E ->  online newspaper, maybe?
19:02:59  arieliondotcom ->  Nope.
19:03:01  Alvin Trusty ->  A little
19:03:01  sroseman ->  nope
19:03:06  matt montagne ->  sligth echo
19:03:13  dianne ->  not here
19:03:16  arieliondotcom ->  I think Alvin has a cold.  :)
19:05:21  arieliondotcom ->  Yes. It started cutting out there for a second.
19:05:28  Gary ->  A wonderful start as usual!
19:05:44  arieliondotcom ->  Was Dave the special guest or is Santa coming, too?
19:05:55  sharonp ->  Santa?
19:06:02  arieliondotcom ->  Fast-paced, not so much tonight.  :)
19:06:03  jan smith ->  It's like having the outtakes at the beginning of a movie
19:06:14  Gary ->  Yay!
19:06:34  sharonp ->  http://digitalyouth.ischool.berkeley.edu/
19:06:59  jan smith ->  Yes, just in time for my lit review for my masters!
19:06:59  arieliondotcom ->  you go girl.  :)
19:08:09  JL ->  http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/lively-no-more.html
19:08:18  JL ->  http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/searchwiki-make-search-your-own.html
19:08:21  jan smith ->  yes Sharon, more links please!
19:08:26  arieliondotcom ->  Lively is dead.
19:10:12  JohnS ->  Life 'Round Here: http://liferoundhere.pbwiki.com/
19:11:40  sharonp ->  http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-study-finds-that-searching-643...
19:12:42  JL ->  http://edublogawards.com/
19:12:58  JL ->  http://eduspaces.net/csessums/weblog/508216.html
19:14:18  matt montagne ->  Kinda like the truman show, but in edublogs
19:14:37  jan smith ->  It's quite disconcerting when you find them on student blogs
19:14:50  JohnS ->  Rudd Government's internet filter to block up to 10,000 'unwanted' sites: http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,24645568-5014239,00.html
19:14:55  arieliondotcom ->  i would not be cool with that.
19:14:58  jan smith ->  I really don't like that it is ON the student's content.
19:15:22  matt montagne ->  they do need some type of business model to keep the lights on tho
19:15:38  arieliondotcom ->  But it shouldn't be intrusive.
19:15:46  jan smith ->  I have put a disclaimer on my blog, and a reminder to refresh the browser to get rid of the links
19:16:01  arieliondotcom ->  And when do you suddenly get onto the political bad-guys list and get filtered?
19:16:04  Gary ->  Don't make the government annoyed?
19:16:27  arieliondotcom ->  "We know better than you what you need to see"
19:17:13  Gary ->  I have always wondered what eventaully happens to the censors - are they corrupted?
19:17:26  arieliondotcom ->  Good idea, Sharon.  I think the community would voluntarily pay rather than being nag-ad-ed to death.
19:17:31  jan smith ->  Yes, I want to see edublogs float, but buying 10 bucks per month per blog---too much
19:17:33  Alvin Trusty ->  Edublogs uses Wordpress.  Wordpress is free.
19:17:56  Alvin Trusty ->  All you need is a server.
19:18:10  sharonp ->  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/us/20internet.html?_r=3&ei=5070&adxnnl...
19:18:16  arieliondotcom ->  Is someone tweeting?
19:18:30  jan smith ->  I wonder if they are spreading too thin--trying to launch edublog TV at the same time.
19:19:13  Alvin Trusty ->  Wordpress.com is MUCH faster.
19:19:36  jan smith ->  The difference is how a teacher can manage / facilitate blogging
19:20:13  Alvin Trusty ->  That's why student blogging really should be done internally... on a school server.
19:20:47  JohnS ->  yeah, probably. And not necessarily using WP if you have things like Moodle and Mahara available.
19:21:01  JL ->  http://www.elearningyellowpages.com/blog/
19:21:06  Cathy E ->  Jeff are you streaming on shoutcast too
19:21:18  Gary ->  Also here:  http://www.bostonherald.com/business/technology/general/view.bg?articlei...
19:21:49  sarah H ->  Is anyone here using Mahara to manage student blogs?
19:22:20  sharonp ->  I would love to use mahara, but my third party does not have the right mysql version! desoloee
19:22:23  JohnS ->  Sarah, we're starting to
19:22:27  sarah H ->  We use First Class, and I'm starting to think it's time to look around.
19:22:29  matt montagne ->  @sarah...not using mahara for blogs, just eportfolios right now...and we're very early in the process of doing so
19:22:31  JohnS ->  Deleting your digital past -- for good: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&...
19:22:47  sharonp ->  oh don't get me started on FirstClass!
19:23:03  jan smith ->  Part of the appeal for edublogs is the attractiveness of the themes
19:23:19  sarah H ->  I remember seeing your tweet earlier this week (last week?). . .
19:23:39  sharonp ->  silo-ed information
19:23:51  matt montagne ->  I'm with Sharon...don't get me started on firstclass either!
19:23:55  arieliondotcom ->  LOL.  I could have told them that for free!
19:24:22  Alvin Trusty ->  @jan smith - JohnS gave me links to all the themes on Edublogs.  I'm sure he would share them again.
19:24:46  jan smith ->  And that is a scary thought.
19:24:51  JohnS ->  Alvin, Jan, they're on the wpmu forum.
19:25:00  arieliondotcom ->  LOL.
19:25:16  sharonp ->  http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-apps-to-get-more-out-of-your-new-mac/
19:25:21  sarah H ->  ok--it sounds like we need to have a FC discussion sometime in the future.  Our admin loves it.
19:25:25  matt montagne ->  We're having teachers who r interested at my school use mahara to create an ePortfolio as part of their professional development...my sample is here: http://moodle.castilleja.org/eportfolio/view/view.php?id=4
19:25:48  arieliondotcom ->  There's no shame in my Iphone game.  :)
19:26:22  matt montagne ->  google phone=open source...u gotta like that...
19:26:34  jan smith ->  @alvin, I am famil with the themes...just saying moodle can't do what a edublogs blog can do for engagement.
19:26:40  arieliondotcom ->  He's not getting a kickback for that is he? 
19:26:50  JohnS ->  James Farmer's 100 theme pack from edublogs.org: http://wpmudev.org/project/Farms-100-big-ones-theme-pack
19:27:03  JL ->  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/business/16digi.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin
19:27:23  JohnS ->  Not arguing that, Jan. But if you're already using it, it may meet the educational needs for the projects you're trying to do.
19:27:46  matt montagne ->  The Wii is interesting to gilrs tho...
19:27:51  JL ->  http://www.joongel.com/index.php
19:28:19  matt montagne ->  I like the wii because it appeals to the non-typical gamer
19:28:40  JohnS ->  Pentagon bans flash drives: http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/21/pentagon-bans-flash-drives/
19:28:55  sharonp ->  for those of you who care... half time  at Grey Cup game
19:29:00  jan smith ->  sorry John--I must have gapped somewhere: my kids and I blog w edublogs, using dif theme, we are embedding dif content. My only :( is the ad issues.
19:30:01  sharonp ->  flash drives also suck up bandwidth - a real problem for whom that matters
19:30:34  matt montagne ->  I saw a 16 GB flash drive at newegg for $40
19:31:00  sharonp ->  http://www.google.com/educators/all_grades.html
19:31:04  sarah H ->  Matt--your site looks good.  I'm now absorbed in the moodle.org site.
19:31:46  JL ->  http://www.untamedscience.com/about
19:32:24  JL ->  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/elikeren
19:32:30  jan smith ->  Are there skins or themes for moodle?
19:32:49  JohnS ->  Monty Python's YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/MontyPython
19:33:08  arieliondotcom ->  Killer rabbits in the room!
19:33:11  matt montagne ->  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233042
19:33:33  jan smith ->  Bring out your dead!
19:33:36  matt montagne ->  16 Gig waterproof flash drive
19:33:44  arieliondotcom ->  It's only a flesh wound!
19:34:22  jan smith ->  this is abit like the arguement clinic from time to time
19:34:25  Jim Vetter ->  This parrot it dead!
19:34:31  Jim Vetter ->  ...is dead.
19:34:35  jan smith ->  It's just sleeping
19:34:39  sheila ->  SPAM!
19:34:43  sharonp ->  http://www.economist.com/books/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12591038
19:34:47  Gary ->  Expired!
19:34:53  jan smith ->  Spammity spam, wonderful spam!
19:35:08  jan smith ->  I'm a lumberjack, and I'm ok...
19:35:24  sheila ->  Go Jan!
19:35:28  JohnS ->  See... all you have to do is mention python and the quoting starts
19:35:35  arieliondotcom ->  LOL.
19:35:39  jan smith ->  That was my entire adolesence,
19:36:02  Jim Vetter ->  What technology is being used to switch back and forth between webcam and showing the chat?
19:36:23  arieliondotcom ->  Bringing it back on topic, if we make out learning as interesting as MP quotes, they will remember it!
19:36:27  JL ->  http://youtube.com/live  http://twitter.com/The_Real_Shaq     http://mashable.com/2008/11/21/shaq-twitter/
19:36:57  arieliondotcom ->  Does YouTube have to have a point?
19:37:25  arieliondotcom ->  Not without ads again.
19:37:54  arieliondotcom ->  Maybe it's a guy that SOUNDS like Shaq.
19:38:18  sharonp ->  have lsot sound??
19:38:19  jan smith ->  yes
19:38:28  jan smith ->  We can here you!
19:38:36  arieliondotcom ->  We can hear you.
19:38:41  matt montagne ->  Jeff will b right back
19:38:46  matt montagne ->  Chrome crashed
19:38:47  JohnS ->  who can you hear?
19:38:48  JuWolf ->  I can hear you fine.
19:38:53  matt montagne ->  that is for sharon and john
19:39:00  Alvin Trusty ->  We can hear JL
19:39:04  matt montagne ->  popcorn break!
19:39:10  sheila ->  more cough syrup . . .
19:39:13  arieliondotcom ->  We can hear you but not Sharon and John.
19:39:23  jan smith ->  Jeff is trying to "get his act together"
19:39:39  sharonp ->  Jeff, can i just throw you my links? LOL
19:39:49  sharonp ->  Jeff can finish the show by himself
19:39:52  jan smith ->  We can sing python tunes while we wait...:)
19:40:01  sheila ->  No signs of panic . . . .
19:40:05  arieliondotcom ->  They're back.  LOUD.
19:40:29  sharonp ->  we are doing this the old school way.... with skype
19:40:34  jan smith ->  Nice recovery---well done!
19:40:49  arieliondotcom ->  Sharon and John are both loud.
19:41:21  arieliondotcom ->  It's fine if I sit across the room.  No, we can't see you Sharon.  :)
19:42:04  JohnS ->  FCC Publishes 'White Spaces' Rules: http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=168155&site=cdn
19:42:07  arieliondotcom ->  At least Jen will know she was missed.
19:42:11  Jim Vetter ->  This is being broadcast via UStream, yes?
19:42:16  sheila ->  Just got my secret elfster pick . . . . Not one of you :(
19:42:18  arieliondotcom ->  Yes.
19:42:34  Jim Vetter ->  Thanks, Ariel.
19:42:58  JohnS ->  OLAT: The Open Source LMS: http://www.olat.org/website/en/html/index.html
19:43:11  Jim Vetter ->  How are they showing their screens on UStream? It looks like it's designed just to show webcams.
19:44:14  sharonp ->  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081117/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_new_word
19:44:16  arieliondotcom ->  I think they're using webcams  they just switch the view.
19:44:21  matt montagne ->  OLAT site seems to b down
19:45:00  JL ->  http://www.penagain.com/
19:45:10  matt montagne ->  good stuff, Sharon!!!
19:45:46  Jim Vetter ->  Could this help my terrible handwriting?
19:45:57  JL ->  http://www.wepapers.com/
19:46:03  jan smith ->  Jim, no-- but it looks cool
19:46:18  arieliondotcom ->  Looks like it would be useful for some folks with Cerebral Palsy.  They could hook it around rather than having to balance between.
19:46:37  Alvin Trusty ->  I've lost the ability to use a pencil.  I can only type.
19:46:39  arieliondotcom ->  We don' say "Meh" either.  :)
19:46:40  Jim Vetter ->  Ah, well, Jan.
19:46:47  sarah H ->  frownie faces, smileys
19:47:21  arieliondotcom ->  Anyone remember getting gold/silver stars?
19:47:30  JohnS ->  Ziff Davis To Close Print PCMag, Focus On Online; Still Looking For Options For Gaming Division: http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-ziff-davis-to-close-print-pcmag-foc...
19:47:30  arieliondotcom ->  Hey, Stephen Downes would say that's open education!
19:48:26  matt montagne ->  I think wit the economy the way it is now we'll see many more companies dump traditional print media...
19:48:36  arieliondotcom ->  I've been telling folks where I work we need to quit publishing in print.  They hired a guy for thousands and thousands of dollars when it could have been put online by the Web guy for free.  Arrgghh.
19:48:46  matt montagne ->  the economy may just be the push to mae this happen...
19:48:55  sharonp ->  http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-news/index.cfm?i=56046
19:49:29  JL ->  http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2008-11-21-webcam-suicide-options_N.htm
19:49:31  matt montagne ->  our school is actually talking more and more about eliminating printed newsletters, etc...most of our stuff is digital, but we still make print as well...
19:49:49  Jim Vetter ->  He used Justin.tv
19:49:53  matt montagne ->  that was terrible story...
19:49:56  matt montagne ->  sad
19:50:07  arieliondotcom ->  I'm sorry to hear that talked about.  Some sickos are going to mimic it.
19:50:20  Jim Vetter ->  Some people where chatting about whether he was using enough pills to kill himself.
19:50:29  Gary ->  Like telling someone to jump?
19:50:33  JL ->  http://www.dial2do.com/
19:50:43  Jim Vetter ->  He put a link on the body building site to his Justin.tv stream.
19:51:03  Jim Vetter ->  Dial2Do sounds like Jott.
19:51:14  Alvin Trusty ->  My parents are retired.  I call them.
19:51:20  JohnS ->  StoryTlr: http://storytlr.com
19:51:22  Jim Vetter ->  Jott is free for the basic service.
19:51:48  JohnS ->  IEP-IPP: http://www.iep-ipp.com/
19:52:42  sharonp ->  http://images.google.com/hosted/life
19:53:02  Gary ->  Boo!
19:53:12  jan smith ->  Boo?
19:53:13  Alvin Trusty ->  All the pre-1923 Life images are in the public domain.
19:53:19  JL ->  http://www.nanowrimo.org/
19:53:19  arieliondotcom ->  Photos from the 1750s?  Hmmm...
19:53:38  Gary ->  Depends which part of Canada you are from. The score
19:53:55  sharonp ->  maybe the 1750s thing was a typo
19:53:56  JL ->  http://www.wikiaudio.com/
19:54:04  sharonp ->  very funny Gary
19:54:16  jan smith ->  Oh yeah, I am not a fotball fan, more into combat knitting
19:54:23  arieliondotcom ->  LOL Cormier Day.
19:54:33  Gary ->  Sharon - you have bias
19:54:42  jan smith ->  Or nude tai chi
19:55:18  Jim Vetter ->  Happy Birthday, Dave!:D
19:55:19  matt montagne ->  Great show!
19:55:32  arieliondotcom ->  Thanks folks.
19:55:36  matt montagne ->  cheers for Sharon!
19:55:38  jan smith ->  Bye all!
19:55:40  Jim Vetter ->  Thanks!
19:55:42  matt montagne ->  nice work filling in!
19:55:44  arieliondotcom ->  Yes, Sharon.  Great job!
19:56:00  Jim Vetter ->  Sharon, you were wonderful. As were you all!
19:56:09  Jim Vetter ->  I'm here for the first time.
19:56:14  sharonp ->  aw thanks
19:56:15  Gary ->  Great job Sharon except for the Grey Cup bias!
19:56:37  Jim Vetter ->  How did you show your screen as well as the webcams?
19:56:52  JohnS ->  he uses Webcam Max
19:56:56  sarah H ->  Great job--I don't usually get to listen live, this was much better than on the elliptical. . .
19:57:01  Gary ->  Yes from Alberta.
19:57:58  sharonp ->  I love it - much better than on the elliptical.... that is a rare kind of praise
19:58:24  arieliondotcom ->  What if the show MAKES you sweat?
19:59:09  Gary ->  The team is named after a song that involves pulling parts off birds
19:59:19  JL ->  The show usually makes US sweat :)
19:59:49  jan smith ->  Bye
20:01:40  Gary ->  Thanks again!