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EdTechTalk#22 - Chat Transcript

 EdTechTalk#22 - Chat Transcript
October 30, 2005

[daf] hi Jeff
[JeffLebow] Hi Daf
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[daf] hi bob
[JeffLebow] Hello Elderbob
[elderbob] The early crew
[daf] whose nervous?
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[elderbob] Nervous?
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[daf] hi Dave
[daf] hi Sus
[dave] greetings
[dave] we're sound testing
[Sus_Nyrop] Granny's here!
[Sus_Nyrop] I can hear you but you sound awful
[elderbob] I hear you.
[daf] the sound is great here
[elderbob] but only once
[Sus_Nyrop] or rather, you make a lot uf scratchy sizzly noise
[elderbob] But I have heard this part before, is this a podcast
[Sus_Nyrop] perhaps the virual audio cable IS missing
[dave] nope
[Sus_Nyrop] you were so nice <yesterday guys
[dave] we're live
[Sus_Nyrop] no echo
[dave] the show starts in 47 minutes
[elderbob] I think it sounds pretty good.
[daf] I have no echo
[daf] the sound is fine here in Caracas :-)
[elderbob] If anything, its a good mike....maybe you need to alter the filters on the mike.
[elderbob] What is the soft ware you are using.
[JeffLebow] EdTechTalk_22_Show_Notes
[Sus_Nyrop] but if you have been using virtual audio cable all the time, how do you think you could do this without?t
[JeffLebow] Info about our set up there
[Sus_Nyrop] do you have a hot air fan?
[elderbob] No, I mean through your soundcard.....are there filters.
[Sus_Nyrop] I think Jeff, your voice is more metallic than usual
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[elderbob] The links in the Show notes for that first entry, dont work.
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[daf] :hugs Lee
[daf] a new literacy, Jeff,
[leeb] hugs too
[elderbob] Cool.
[daf] well, both sounds are good, but the old sound was much better
[elderbob] I dont see a problem with this way, but maybe if I hear d the other....
[elderbob] DO a test, then vote.
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[daf] good idea, bob
[daf] M-CH test
[Sus_Nyrop] Hi again
[daf] wb sus
[daf] he he, not messier than my office, I am sure
[Sus_Nyrop] I am waiting to hear some better sound!
[daf] a = old sound
[daf] b= new sound
[leeb] I like the sound fine.
[Sus_Nyrop] C= quality sound
[leeb] b
[Sus_Nyrop] a
[leeb] b
[daf] no, Sus we are voting for old sound and new sound
[elderbob] Boy that was scary.
[daf] lol
[daf] it's halloween!
[elderbob] Time for a toilet break...
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[leeb] :o
[leeb] That was sceeaaary.
[derli1212] hi. how are you all?
[dave] very good
[leeb] *harp*
[dave] how goesit...
[derli1212] :D
[daf] hi deril
[daf] derli, sorry
[elderbob] Is sound still off?
[derli1212] hi. daf, later any workshop?
[daf] no idea
[derli1212] I don't hear voice.
[daf] trrying sound
[leeb] what chat are they looking at?
[Sus_Nyrop] that gave enen more noise, a new moise!
[Sus_Nyrop] flutter flutter knitz knitz
[daf] lol
[Sus_Nyrop] deli is in Taiwan
[Sus_Nyrop] Derli
[derli1212] yes. Taiwan zone pm 10:40
[daf] do you know Aiden, Derli?
[leeb] hi derli
[derli1212] hi. Sus!
[derli1212] yes. I know Aiden.
[daf] :-)
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[dave] hi ruth!
[teacherruth] Hi!
[teacherruth] I don't know how to listen to the live streaming
[derli1212] I hear machine sound "welcome" ? I am too.
[teacherruth] The icons on the right don't seem to help
[daf] hi ruth
[teacherruth] Hi!
[daf] they are trying the sound, Ruth
[leeb] daf, where are jeff and dave looking at chats
[dave] who
[dave] dave and jeff
[dave] we're here
[derli1212] so you said I press live stream! I got it! I am listening it. it's good. Dave and Jeff are talking online!
[dave] yes
[dave] derli... the show starts in about 29 minutes
[derli1212] thanks!
[dave] we're doing sound checks and a pre-show
[leeb] yes, I have both.. I just thought they were seeing things I was not seeing...
[daf] wel, I am having sound again
[teacherruth] IMaybe all the fiddling yesterday muted my sound?
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[teacherruth] But I can't even get any player
[leeb] ohhhh. I also keep that open.. i will get it on a floating window so I can watch it as well.
[daf] that is a good idea, Lee
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[daf] brb
[Bee] cackling and typing witches and warlocks
[burgosm] brb
[Bee] Hi Ruth
[Bee] Long time no see
[Sus_Nyrop] Hello here Ruth!
[Bee] Maybe it is a problem with configuring her speakers
[Bee] is she on a PC?
[daf] back
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[elderbob] I am making lots of comments, but no one can hear them.
[Sus_Nyrop] hello Suria
[daf] in Skype, Bob?
[elderbob] No, just here in my living room.
[suriawang] Hello, sus...
[suriawang] Am I late?
[elderbob] Im just talking outloud, and no one hears.
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[elderbob] but then no one is arguing either.
[Bee] I hear you
[Sus_Nyrop] you're so welcome, Suria!
[Bee] read you
[suriawang] Is there a Webcast happening, or fixing to happen. I have a really hard time with timezones.
[daf] you can hear the conversation of the pre-show
[elderbob] Suria, you are just in time.
[suriawang] Should I listen at 24kbs or 64kbs?
[Bee] It depends on your connection
[suriawang] K
[elderbob] Are you on a low bandwidth or high bandwidth, Suria.
[burgosm] Is there some way to see which are the 5 people who can talk?
[Bee] Hi Maryanne...are you listening to the webcast as well
[suriawang] So we're listening to pre-show?
[burgosm] Yes, I'm listening.
[Bee] great
[suriawang] :sitting back to listen...
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[Bee] Halloween in the air
[Bee] I must go...now..lunch time here
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[elderbob] I thought this was the Naughty Boys chat....then i find out its the Nordic Voice Chat.
[elderbob] What a disappointment.
[Bee] See you...good luck with the Nordic conference Sus...I will be here next weekend...so will try to log in
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[elderbob] BYe Bee
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[Sus_Nyrop] Hi Maryanne
[burgosm] Hi Sus
[daf] Jeff, ask Vance about the WiAOC conference
[daf] he is the conference man
[JeffLebow] anything specific about wiaoc?
[Sus_Nyrop] Vance is telling al about it now
[daf] yes
[burgosm] What is the regular EdTechTalk time?
[suriawang] elderbob, so what's converging in the "convergence"?
[elderbob] Im still trying to find a way to get ANdy Carvin to call in on that Sunday.
[elderbob] But it doesnt look too likely.
[Sus_Nyrop] Bob - why don't you jump into Skype & I can make room for you
[elderbob] He had them on the Global Learn Day last year.
[suriawang] So What's it about?
[suriawang] Oh, so people are converging?
[daf] The occurrence of two or more things coming together
[elderbob] It came to me in a vision.
[Sus_Nyrop] people, and the technologies connecting us
[elderbob] Converging of technology, societies, humans, etc.
[suriawang] Got it! Very good...
[daf] coming closer
[suriawang] Where is the moodle page?
[elderbob] We might get several people to take turns doing it once per monthr.
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[elderbob] YOu are coming through niceand clear Ruth
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[tkanders] HEllo everyone
[dave] greetings
[tkanders] Bob do I understand you correctly, can you here Ruth?
[dave] yes, ruth is talking now
[tkanders] Ok then is Ruth using a microphone?
[dave] yes
[burgosm] Is this Ruth Vilmi?
[dave] yes
[dave] tkanders - she is in the skype conference
[dave] which is on the live stream
[burgosm] Wow. I've used her web project with me former ESL students. This is cool.
[tkanders] Dave I have been looking for skype, hard to locate
[dave] tkanders... the program?
[dave] it's at skype.com
[Sus_Nyrop] Ruth Vilmi is talking about her conference session for the Nordic voice conference
[burgosm] Hi, Ruth. Yes I can hear you. Yes, Burgos
[burgosm] I'm a retired teacher. I usesd Ruth's page with my hs students in Buffalo, NY
[Sus_Nyrop] Maryanne, jump into Skype
[burgosm] No, thanks. I'd rather hear you.
[tkanders] Thank you Dave, for the tip I am downloading now.
[dave] great
[burgosm] I taught in Buffalo, NY but now will do online courses from Maryland, USA
[burgosm] Yes, that's what we used.
[burgosm] Maybe I should try to skype in.
[Sus_Nyrop] now tereh's room for you maryanne
[JeffLebow] you can skype 'worldbridges'
[Sus_Nyrop] My webcast player is loading SO slowly
[burgosm] the International writing project. I don't know how to get in. I logged on the Skype and and signed in.
[suriawang] What's wrong with American voices? ;-)
[burgosm] Now what?
[burgosm] American voices rule!
[suriawang] What about southern american voices?
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[Sus_Nyrop] Maryanne, do I have your skype name?
[burgosm] It's burgosm
[Sus_Nyrop] ok
[Sus_Nyrop] I'll need a reboot, thins are freezing
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[burgosm] Sorry I don't know how to join you.
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[burgosm] I hear a ring but I need more specific instructions on how to join you.
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[tkanders] I am ready to use skype with the group. burgosm can I log your name as well. Just to experience how to manage skype.
[suriawang] Where is the moodle for the convergence?
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[Sus_back] I hat to reboot
[Sus_back] what IS cop cakes?
[daf] I see you are back
[Sus_back] yes, I am definitely back
[daf] cakes made out of police officers ;-)
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[Sus_back] they always need some cake for their coffee
[Sus_back] Hi Ruth!
[teacherruth] Hi! I'm back
[daf] wb ruth
[Sus_back] so good to see you here & there
[teacherruth] Thanks, you too!
[daf] I am on and off because my dad is not feeling well
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[teacherruth] We must learn about this new recording software they mentioned.
[teacherruth] can u type the name of the software?
[Sus_back] "an experience whiwh we should pick up in a quite different way!!!" Sounds entertaining indeed
[Sus_back] niicecast on mac?
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[Sus_back] kids being sick should NOT be haunted by school teachers intruding their pirvate space; those were my best days
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[teacherruth] the URL please?
[burgosm] Allen who? Where is that located
[JeffLebow] learnerblogs.org
[teacherruth] thanks
[teacherruth] Is this yours Jeff
[Sus_back] Did you ever use a traditional telephone bridge call and converge it into podcast?'
[teacherruth] mulitiuser worlscast?
[JeffLebow] No, it's James Farmer's
[teacherruth] thanks
[teacherruth] elg? elk?
[JeffLebow] We have used traditional phones in webcasts - audio quality is usually not as good
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[burgosm] Hi Buth
[dave] davecormier.com/edblog
[Sus_back] elgg.net
[teacherruth] Hi Buth! Long time no see!
[dave] the new post describes elgg
[teacherruth] thanks sue
[buthaina] orry for being late, Jeff and Daveand all of course
[Sus_back] I'm trying to become a regular user of elgg to find out how I like that
[buthaina] orry=sorry
[elderbob] and I have to run....see you all next week end.
[teacherruth] bye
[elderbob] 'Remember "Web 2.0 -Appetizers" on Knowplace, next weekend...starting Friday.
[elderbob] knowplace.ca
[elderbob] bye.
[suriawang] That happened to me this week -- splogging!
[teacherruth] OK. Will do!
[teacherruth] Must get to know u
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[daf] it is happening to my students blogs at blogger
[daf] not so at LiveJournal
[suriawang] I'm finding that info from my blog are appearing on other blogs, which also include lots of unrelated content.
[suriawang] It looks like it's all machine sifted...
[teacherruth] That is very bad.
[suriawang] What's the URL of the blog map?
[burgosm] The EVO sessions are using Frapper for their sites.
[Sus_back] frappr is cool. you can zoom down all the way to local level
[daf] http://www.frappr.com/edubloggers
[buthaina] Hi Professor Ruth, how are you..glad to meet you here
[teacherruth] Thanks Daff
[daf] :hugs Buth
[Sus_back] we have had the good old Bravenet map for years
[buthaina] I am really happy to meet with my First Online Mentor, Ruth Vilmi today :)
[JeffLebow] http://goffice.com
[burgosm] Is there a program similar to Frapper for smaller areas - within counties or cities?
[teacherruth] Thank you Buth! :D
[Sus_back] http://dafnegonzalez.com/wia/wia-map.htm - our old Bravent webheads map from 2002
[daf] the only thing I don't llike about frappr is that you cannot take a screenshot of the whole map
[buthaina] Thanks to Worldbridges for providing such wondwerful educational meetings for all teachers and students in the globe
[teacherruth] You are doing great work now. I'm following you!
[Sus_back] Frappr can zoom in to local level
[daf] Bravenet, Maryanne
[burgosm] Thanks.
[daf] she is, Ruth
[teacherruth] Yes. This is my first time here.
[teacherruth] But Dave and Geoff have been helping me a lot this week.
[teacherruth] Right!
[Sus_back] we want easy tools!
[Sus_back] they have indeed been most helpful with the two od us, Ruth
[burgosm] Where will Siemens and Cross be? here?
[Sus_back] yes , here in edtechtalk on Thursday
[burgosm] Cost? Kost?
[burgosm] Thanks.
[Sus_back] Jay Cross
[teacherruth] I agree Sue
[burgosm] OK
[teacherruth] Must come on Thursday
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[teacherruth] Yes, welcome to my livecast at 15 GMT
[teacherruth] om Moday
[Sus_back] http://www.nordiskestemme.dk
[suriawang] What's the Convergence URL?
[buthaina] Jeff, are they back..LOL
[teacherruth] Thanks all of you for this session. I presume this chat is logged.
[Sus_back] IS the chat logged, J & D?


osm] Yes, that's what we used.
[burgosm] Maybe I should try to skype in.
[Sus_Nyrop] now tereh's room for you maryanne
[JeffLebow] you can skype 'worldbridges'
[Sus_Nyrop] My webcast player is loading SO slowly
[burgosm] the International writing project. I don't know how to get in. I logged on the Skype and and signed in.
[suriawang] What's wrong with American voices? ;-)
[burgosm] Now what?
[burgosm] American voices rule!
[suriawang] What about southern american voices?
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[Sus_Nyrop] Maryanne, do I have your skype name?
[burgosm] It's burgosm
[Sus_Nyrop] ok
[Sus_Nyrop] I'll need a reboot, thins are freezing
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[burgosm] Sorry I don't know how to join you.
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[burgosm] I hear a ring but I need more specific instructions on how to join you.
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[tkanders] I am ready to use skype with the group. burgosm can I log your name as well. Just to experience how to manage skype.
[suriawang] Where is the moodle for the convergence?
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[Sus_back] I hat to reboot
[Sus_back] what IS cop cakes?
[daf] I see you are back
[Sus_back] yes, I am definitely back
[daf] cakes made out of police officers ;-)
teacherruth has joined the chat.
[Sus_back] they always need some cake for their coffee
[Sus_back] Hi Ruth!
[teacherruth] Hi! I'm back
[daf] wb ruth
[Sus_back] so good to see you here & there
[teacherruth] Thanks, you too!
[daf] I am on and off because my dad is not feeling well
burgosm has joined the chat.
[teacherruth] We must learn about this new recording software they mentioned.
[teacherruth] can u type the name of the software?
[Sus_back] "an experience whiwh we should pick up in a quite different way!!!" Sounds entertaining indeed
[Sus_back] niicecast on mac?
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[Sus_back] kids being sick should NOT be haunted by school teachers intruding their pirvate space; those were my best days
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[teacherruth] the URL please?
[burgosm] Allen who? Where is that located
[JeffLebow] learnerblogs.org
[teacherruth] thanks
[teacherruth] Is this yours Jeff
[Sus_back] Did you ever use a traditional telephone bridge call and converge it into podcast?'
[teacherruth] mulitiuser worlscast?
[JeffLebow] No, it's James Farmer's
[teacherruth] thanks
[teacherruth] elg? elk?
[JeffLebow] We have used traditional phones in webcasts - audio quality is usually not as good
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[burgosm] Hi Buth
[dave] davecormier.com/edblog
[Sus_back] elgg.net
[teacherruth] Hi Buth! Long time no see!
[dave] the new post describes elgg
[teacherruth] thanks sue
[buthaina] orry for being late, Jeff and Daveand all of course
[Sus_back] I'm trying to become a regular user of elgg to find out how I like that
[buthaina] orry=sorry
[elderbob] and I have to run....see you all next week end.
[teacherruth] bye
[elderbob] 'Remember "Web 2.0 -Appetizers" on Knowplace, next weekend...starting Friday.
[elderbob] knowplace.ca
[elderbob] bye.
[suriawang] That happened to me this week -- splogging!
[teacherruth] OK. Will do!
[teacherruth] Must get to know u
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[daf] it is happening to my students blogs at blogger
[daf] not so at LiveJournal
[suriawang] I'm finding that info from my blog are appearing on other blogs, which also include lots of unrelated content.
[suriawang] It looks like it's all machine sifted...
[teacherruth] That is very bad.
[suriawang] What's the URL of the blog map?
[burgosm] The EVO sessions are using Frapper for their sites.
[Sus_back] frappr is cool. you can zoom down all the way to local level
[daf] http://www.frappr.com/edubloggers
[buthaina] Hi Professor Ruth, how are you..glad to meet you here
[teacherruth] Thanks Daff
[daf] :hugs Buth
[Sus_back] we have had the good old Bravenet map for years
[buthaina] I am really happy to meet with my First Online Mentor, Ruth Vilmi today :)
[JeffLebow] http://goffice.com
[burgosm] Is there a program similar to Frapper for smaller areas - within counties or cities?
[teacherruth] Thank you Buth! :D
[Sus_back] http://dafnegonzalez.com/wia/wia-map.htm - our old Bravent webheads map from 2002
[daf] the only thing I don't llike about frappr is that you cannot take a screenshot of the whole map
[buthaina] Thanks to Worldbridges for providing such wondwerful educational meetings for all teachers and students in the globe
[teacherruth] You are doing great work now. I'm following you!
[Sus_back] Frappr can zoom in to local level
[daf] Bravenet, Maryanne
[burgosm] Thanks.
[daf] she is, Ruth
[teacherruth] Yes. This is my first time here.
[teacherruth] But Dave and Geoff have been helping me a lot this week.
[teacherruth] Right!
[Sus_back] we want easy tools!
[Sus_back] they have indeed been most helpful with the two od us, Ruth
[burgosm] Where will Siemens and Cross be? here?
[Sus_back] yes , here in edtechtalk on Thursday
[burgosm] Cost? Kost?
[burgosm] Thanks.
[Sus_back] Jay Cross
[teacherruth] I agree Sue
[burgosm] OK
[teacherruth] Must come on Thursday
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[teacherruth] Yes, welcome to my livecast at 15 GMT
[teacherruth] om Moday
[Sus_back] http://www.nordiskestemme.dk
[suriawang] What's the Convergence URL?
[buthaina] Jeff, are they back..LOL
[teacherruth] Thanks all of you for this session. I presume this chat is logged.
[Sus_back] IS the chat logged, J & D?
[buthaina] sorry, I missed your talk , teacherRuth
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[buthaina] I will tune to the Webcast, oif course
[teacherruth] I will talk on Mon 7th
[teacherruth] at 15 GMT
[teacherruth] Good
[burgosm] Thanks guys. I learned a lot and apprecite your inivitation to talk with Ruth and you both.
[Sus_back] and I will join you indeed
[JeffLebow] http://davecormier.com/edblog
[buthaina] Great! thanks teacherRuth
[suriawang] What has new literacy become a more popular topic these days.
[buthaina] Unfortunately, I cannot show anyone the Project My students and I did When we Joined Vilmi's IWE project..I was not a Webhead in
[Sus_back] Dave, the link to the Nordic voice conf in your blog is not valid
[dave] k
[buthaina] action then and didn't have the skill to document that project
[suriawang] That's High Tech High School....
[teacherruth] That sounds great.
[Sus_back] pls correct it bwhen you can, it is http://www.nordiskestemme.dk
[daf] I added my students podcasting blog to the frappr blog
[suriawang] But the difference is that students are working the information, not just consuming it.
[daf] frappr map, I meant
[teacherruth] What should I do if I want to Skype in?
[suriawang] kids are widgets...
[daf] just add people's skype ID's to your skype, Ruth
[buthaina] Ruth, just add, the skype name: "worldbridges"
[daf] mine is dafnegon939
[JeffLebow] EdTechTalk_22_Show_Notes
[buthaina] Hayyyyy..good to hear your voice live online here today..
[daf] lol
[buthaina] Judt love this English Accent..:)
[dave] the link is ok... what are you talking about?
[Sus_back] looks like an internal url Dave
[dave] really? where?
[Sus_back] oops, nopw it DOES work, sorry
[dave] hee hee :) i fixed it
[dave] thanks sus
[Sus_back] lol :?
[buthaina] heheh..dave, :)
[buthaina] is this Sus, from the Nordic moodle project?
[buthaina] hehehe, Sus..)
[buthaina] Yes, Ruth a great idea
[daf] our Sus, Buth :-)
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[daf] hi Tammy
[Sus_back] at least this gave me another opportunity to mention the URL for http://www.edtechtalk
[Tammy7229] hello, I have just downloaded oddsock software. I am trying to fiqure this whole thing out.
[Tammy7229] This is my first time here.
[burgosm] Thanks for everything. Gotta go.
[Tammy7229] HEllo Sus_back
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[Tammy7229] I can here your voice and Teacherruths, what a greta tool this is.
[daf] nice listening to French
[dave] merci
[dave] Sa fait longtemp d la derniere fois que j'ai parle en francais
[Sus_back] c'etait excellent, vraiment!
[dave] merci bien!
[Sus_back] I recall you were talking often about Ruth's work when you started as a webhead, Buthy
[daf] it all sounds so familiar to me, Ruth and Buth :-(
[Sus_back] Daf, would you like to jump in now, I could jump out
[daf] no, dear, stay where you are ;-)
[JeffLebow] We can kick Dave out... he doesn't mind
[dave] i'll drop out
[JeffLebow] Here we come Daf
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[daf] jeff, I was turning off the webcast
[JeffLebow] I knew I wouldn't have to say anything to you. You are a veteren
[JeffLebow] veteran
[JeffLebow] Do you have a headset?
[Sus_back] Daf
[Sus_back] s not got any headset today
[daf] no, my headset is not here, my son took it ;-)
[JeffLebow] Daf, if possible you can mute your mic while not speaking... although the echo isn't so bad now
[Sus_back] this means we can hear sweet bird's twittering from your garden!
[daf] better now?
[JeffLebow] yes
[daf] :-)
[Sus_back] almost perfect!
[JeffLebow] Where did you go Daf?
[daf] I was not listening, so I hang up to be able to listen ;-)
[JeffLebow] Please skype back in whenever you like... I like the bird song background
[daf] lol
[daf] I am listening while preparing some web pages for the Becoming a Webhead session 2006
[JeffLebow] http://alothman-b.tripod.com/sus_chat_090.htm
[teacherruth] matrix?
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[JeffLebow] Hello Jason
[Jason] hi there :)
[daf] hi Jason
[JeffLebow] Are you listening to the show?
[Jason] is it still on?
[JeffLebow] The 'post-show'
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[Jason] i am now :)
[Jason] i wanted to tune in today but i woke up too late... :)
[Jason] too much age of empires III last night...
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[Sus_back] hello Jason, I am Sus in denmark
[Jason] hi. :) this is Jason....I am a high school history teacher from Helena, Montana, USA
[Sus_back] and, are you listetning to the post edtechtalk?
[Jason] i am
[Sus_back] you're listening to TESOL teachers Ruth Vilmi in Finland and Buthaina Alothman in Kuwait
[Jason] i wanted to tune in earlier, but it started rather early in the morning for me on a sunday :)
[Jason] are they using skype?
[Jason] the sound quality is wonderfully clear
[JeffLebow] http://www.geocities.com/esl_efl_ku
[Sus_back] yes, we're on a Skype conference talking
[Jason] hello :)
[Jason] i am not on a machine with skpe at this point, but i am happy listening for now
[daf] thanks Buth, Ruth, Sus, Jeff and Dave
[daf] bye everybody
[teacherruth] M<ny thanks to our losteniners and most of all to Geoff and Dave
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[Sus_back] this cwas the craziest session!
[teacherruth] Right! But again it was great, esp. great to meet Buth here. Sad to hear her stories though.
[Sus_back] bye for now, hubby is grumpying from the kitchen region!!
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[teacherruth] Now I must eat and prepare for tomorrow's workshop
[teacherruth] Not sure how to quit.
[buthaina] Tank again, Jeff and Dave for your effort, time, and great support, as always.
[buthaina] Tank=Thanks
[JeffLebow] Thanks to everyone... a great marathon show
[teacherruth] I guess I just close the window?
[buthaina] Look forward to listening to the webcast done earlier today. And to the coming one with Ruth and Sus.
[teacherruth] Luckily I live alone and have no one to boss me any more!
[buthaina] Bye Bye, all..
[JeffLebow] It's being re-webcast now
[teacherruth] Bye Buth
[JeffLebow] Bye Buth 

EdTechTalk#21 - Chat Transcript

EdTechTalk#21 - Chat Transcript
October 23, 2005

[it_s_me_dave] crazyness
[daf] this is a typical webheads experiment
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[daf] welcome, Claire
[elderbob] Hi CBSiskin.
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[bob] what is the experiment? what is "alloto?" <is that right?>
[it_s_me_dave] a place to win money?
[elderbob] Alado.com
[bob] ah
[elderbob] Is this Bob, from Texas?
[bob] no... bob sprankle from maine
[it_s_me_dave] ah, that bob.
[elderbob] Ok, there is another Bob from Texas I know, besides myself.
[it_s_me_dave] hi bob
[bob] hi dave
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[aiden] for newbies
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[daf] I had to leave alado
[it_s_me_dave] bob, we're trying to run two different platforms at the same time...
[it_s_me_dave] but you've probably caught on to that by now...
[it_s_me_dave] are you listening to the stream?
[bob] ah. what's the link for alado?
[daf] I could not have alado, the chat room, and the webcast
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[Rita] ive muted Alado
[Rita] but can see the chat window
[elderbob] I think sound is good.
[Rita] very good, yes, but voice comes and goes
[bob] yes. listening to the stream... unfortunately I have only a few moments... of to visit relatives in a matter of minutes
[bob] off
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[aiden] what are you using to chat in edtech, jeff, skype?
[bee] are you typing from a different window outside Alado or are you typing fromthe central window in Alado?
[daf] now I have this chat, the webcast and alado in different browsers and it is ok
[su_on_mac] >I lost Alado when I tried to open the real Player
[aiden] i'm typing from Alado
[su_on_mac] sol now I went over to my mac
[su_on_mac] and the delays are difefrently timed
[aiden] i just hope no one projects any other webpage in alado or i'll lose edtech
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[daf] I had to leave alado, could not type into this chat from alado and listen to the webcast at the same time
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[Rita] (been kicked off)
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[daf] I left alado
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[aiden] lol
[bee] I am tyyping directly from the Alado central window
[su_on_mac] su-on_mac is alias Sus Nyrop
[aiden] me, too, bee
[sroseman] I am on a Mac as well
[daf] I left alado and now the sound of the webcast is better
[aiden] only moderators in alado can do that
[cbsiskin] i left alado too
[su_on_mac] my PC froze competely when Itried to stream the cast from RealPlayer, - but it was fun to try
[bee] I can hear Jeff well...and was not kicked out
[aiden] me too bee
[bob] well... I have to go... I love the work you guys are doing and will try and come back next week...
[bob] I'll catch this on the podcast!
[sroseman] what is the url for ALDO
[Rita] i can also hear well, but ned to leave now, good experiment ;-)
[bee] http://alado.net/webheads
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[su_on_mac] bye to you Rita!
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[daf] this is a screenshot of what happened when I was trying to get a screenshot of alado-worldbridges chat and my screen froze:
[daf] http://daf4.free.fr/pics/alado-wb-exper.jpg
[dave_on_air] ?q=node/115
[su_on_mac] and what was the name of that reader?
[dave_on_air] rssowl
[su_on_mac] type it here pls
[su_on_mac] hm hm
[JeffLebow] http://rssowl.org
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[bee] edu ubuntu?
[dave_on_air] edubuntu
[ElizabethHS] What does Access do?
[dave_on_air] database stuff
[ElizabethHS] thanx
[aiden] what's the site again?
[cbsiskin] and the educational prices for the video ipods are even lower
[aiden] can you type it here?
[ElizabethHS] ehow.com
[ElizabethHS] Mobility is the issue, though
[bee] see you...must go and vote in the referendum now
[ElizabethHS] Good luck to Brazil, Bee!
[ElizabethHS] Got it--like Excel
[bee] let's see what happens..whether they prohibit the sale of ammunition and arms here or not
[cbsiskin] no not like excel -- excell is a spreadsheet
[bee] see you
[ElizabethHS] Won't stop violence--see Pinker, The Blank slate
[bee] I know
[bee] education is the solution
[cbsiskin] well pinker is highly controversial
[bee] and satisfying people's basic needs...giving them a chance...empowering them
[ElizabethHS] yes, Bee--and econ development
[bee] anyhow...see you
[ElizabethHS] C;ya
[cbsiskin] see you bee
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[daf] that would be a great gift: a video ipod :-)
[cbsiskin] daf, you are moving to spain?
[daf] yes, i hope I can do it early next year
[sroseman] http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCooki...
[cbsiskin] why, if I may ask?
[sroseman] good for previewing photos and watching videos
[daf] well, I don't like in a dictatorship :-(
[sroseman] nice sized screen
[daf] living in a...
[cbsiskin] understandable, daf
[cbsiskin] i understood what you meant
[daf] :-)
[ElizabethHS] Address for the Yahoo search?
[ElizabethHS] video search?
[dave_on_air] ?q=node/115
[dave_on_air] show notes
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[cbsiskin] so many jeffs :-)
[daf] yes, a jeffy world ;-)
[aiden] lol
[Jeff_in_Ann_Arbor] Yes so many Jeff and so little time
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[ElizabethHS] Good notes--thanks for pointing to this excellent resource. You guys have this well organized!
[elderbob] Great advice.
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[su_on_mac] I get such emails phishing for passwords, titled : You recently changed your password (which I did not)
[Jeff_in_Ann_Arbor] Dave do you think it is because of all the links on other blogs linking to your feedbook
[daf] just delete them, Sus
[elderbob] I wonder if blog spam raises your google ranking?
[su_on_mac] you bewt I do Daf :-)
[dave_on_air] probably
[Jeff_in_Ann_Arbor] Yes Flock I am using it right now
[dave_on_air] skype in to tell us about it jeff!
[aiden] yes, i got those comments. I always tell my students they can delete these kind of comments
[daf] my students are annoyed by the spam on their newly-created blogger blogs
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[elderbob] I think I will stay with Firefox and extensions for now.
[cbsiskin] wb elizabeth
[daf] yes, they delete them, and they have activated the word verification feature
[su_on_mac] Daf - do your students ask for resctricted comments in Blogger, where you need to verify the comment user?
[ElizabethHS] Yeah--I checked the blog and used Back--so got lost.
[daf] but having 5 nasty comments in a row is not nice
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[elderbob] Of course maybe firefox will join with flock and then it will be fireflock
[sroseman] we have OPERA and SAFARI and FIREFOX installed
[dave_on_air] the problem was that they were VERY nice comments
[dave_on_air] "i love your blog, it's great, buy my stuff"
[daf] yes, Dave that's what those messages are about
[sroseman] how many browsers can you have?
[dave_on_air] zillions
[dave_on_air] i run 3 regularly
[dave_on_air] konqueror, opera and firefox
[aiden] how can jeff in ann arbor join the voice chat?
[dave_on_air] skype
[su_on_mac] when you have eventual problems with using both Elluminate and Horizon Wimba, it can be a good idea...
[su_on_mac] to have one browser for each system'
[dave_on_air] all you need to do if you want to talk is skype 'worldbridges'
[dave_on_air] hi jo...
[aiden] thanks, dave
[dave_on_air] sleepy this time of night?
[jo] Hi, Dave
[dave_on_air] thanks for staying up!
[elderbob] Jeff will you describe how that is done.
[jo] I tried to go to bed but then got up again
[dave_on_air] lol
[ElizabethHS] NiceCast? ShoutCast?
[sroseman] 50 in a conference call ..a plus for the Mac
[ElizabethHS] OK--Shoutcast?
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[dave_on_air] shoutcast is...
[dave_on_air] oh. she left
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[sus_back_on_mac] why am I hearsing such echo?
[dave_on_air] we fixed
[dave_on_air] it
[sus_back_on_mac] yes, I hear that now :-))
[elderbob] The echo is because Jeff is listening over speakers.
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[Elizabeth_H-S] Trying out any links from the Notes seems to bump me from the Chatroom.
[jo] Elizabeth, try having another window open to try out the links
[sroseman] nicecast http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21347#screenshots
[sroseman] http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/
[Elizabeth_H-S] I just figured that out, Jo, thankx
[jo] :D
[Elizabeth_H-S] From here a new window opens--it's just from the notes that I have the problem.
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[sus_back_on_mac] I'd like to learn more about how you can Skype in an analog phone call, suah as we plan to do with Etienne for the Nordic voice
[Elizabeth_H-S] Do people here in the chatroom have speaking ability?
[dave_on_air] yes
[sus_back_on_mac] NV online conference
[elderbob] So that would mean that with Gizmo, you could increase the number of voice participants.
[dave_on_air] you can skype in at 'worldbridges'
[elderbob] and it adds video
[sus_back_on_mac] Elizabeth, you would need to call on Skype
[Elizabeth_H-S] ic
[daf] skype: worldbridges
[Jeff_in_Ann_Arbor] which usb mike do you use?
[elderbob] Jeff and Dave, why do you prefer Skype over Gizmo.
[elderbob] Another words, a training class or time for Gizmo users might be nice
[Jeff_in_Ann_Arbor] same one I have
[daf] Skype sound is great
[sus_back_on_mac] I got a beautiful new headset, Sennheiser 160
[elderbob] If I were doing a limited class, have folks take a class in how to use the Gizmo set up or the Skype set up.
[elderbob] Gizmo is open source, Skype is ont.
[elderbob] not
[Elizabeth_H-S] Skype works well over my cell phone. I assume Gizmo does too?
[Elizabeth_H-S] Makes the call in free.
[elderbob] I had trouble in earlier versions but now it seems to have improved.
[sus_back_on_mac] sounds like great corporate fun
[Jeff_in_Ann_Arbor] any mac folks us iChat much?
[sus_back_on_mac] nope, not me Jeff
[Jeff_in_Ann_Arbor] I did a little but the audio is much less than skype
[elderbob] My thoughts exactly.
[Jeff_in_Ann_Arbor] we use the text IM in iChat at my schools and work much than
[elderbob] Thanks very much for looking into my Gizmo question.
[daf] I use YM with my students
[sus_back_on_mac] popTech?
[jo] YM?
[daf] Yahoo Messenger
[jo] Oh, thanx
[daf] for group work
[daf] and consulting hours
[sus_back_on_mac] hehe
[Jeff_in_Ann_Arbor] web cast and pod cast "Moving at the speed of Creativity"
[daf] :-)
[aiden] thanks, that's a compliment :-)
[JeffLebow] http://www.speedofcreativity.org/
[daf] interesting!
[sus_back_on_mac] Webheads are activists, homegrown virtual nomads
[Elizabeth_H-S] Reading is beyond words, too. You need to subconsciously understand contextual properties.
[daf] pragmatics
[sus_back_on_mac] that's why score testting does not really reveal if kids are ready to put their knowledge into action
[sroseman] need alot of real world experiences before you read
[Elizabeth_H-S] Depends on the test, Sus.
[sus_back_on_mac] perhaps I understand teh term "test" in a narrow sense
[sus_back_on_mac] in Danish education testing is still pretty controversial
[Elizabeth_H-S] skimming and scanning were always taught--but in higher level classes.
[daf] tests should be learning experiences
[Elizabeth_H-S] I disagree Daf--it would be mixing two modes--learning and assessing
[aiden] got to go folks, thanks and good night, from taiwan
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[Elizabeth_H-S] g'nite, Aiden--see you at EVO
[daf] of course they are part of the assessement process, but they should let the students learn
[daf] what they know and what they have to go back to. Tests should not be given just for grades
[elderbob] Robert Horn's Visual Language.
[Elizabeth_H-S] I agree there, Daf
[daf] as they do in my university. Teachers then, teach to the test
[daf] I mean they test for a grade
[sus_back_on_mac] yay
[daf] and teach for the test
[Elizabeth_H-S] Chris will be demonstrating to newcomers.
[elderbob] In Dallas, yahooo.
[daf] I will present with her at alado
[Elizabeth_H-S] I hope to join in LT.
[daf] Buth will present at LT with Chris
[elderbob] Communities of Practice?
[Elizabeth_H-S] We have presence.
[daf] it will be MVP session
[daf] lol
[daf] that was sus' description
[Jeff_in_Ann_Arbor] What will be the screen sharing or will it all be audio?
[daf] there will be page pushing at alado
[daf] and PPT slides at LT
[Elizabeth_H-S] Too loud, Sus
[daf] yes
[Elizabeth_H-S] Sounds great to me!
[Elizabeth_H-S] Sus--you faded out.
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[Sus_back] sorry but I was cut off skype
[Jeff_in_Ann_Arbor] I apologize for my lack of knowledge but I don't know alado nor sure what LT stands for
[Elizabeth_H-S] Elluminate is easier to make work than Alado.
[daf] I find alado very easy
[Sus_back] the Nordic Voice conference page is at http://www.nordiskestemme.dk
[daf] I had problems trying to get all my grad students to LT
[daf] even though I created a tutorial for dummies using Camtasia
[Sus_back] it is free of charge and anyone with an interest in language and ICT is welcome
[daf] I spent almost 45 minutes in YM herding them to the Elluminate room
[daf] maybe because they don't speak english and they got scared when faced with a all-english site
[Elizabeth_H-S] don't forget Video Online -- Mike Marzio and I will be talking about some video resources for teachers and Mike's new video
[Elizabeth_H-S] Video Online will be in the Webheads convergence conference.
[JeffLebow] Elizabeth, are available to skype?
[Elizabeth_H-S] I guess I'd say, no--I'd have to go dig out my skype account, eh?
[Elizabeth_H-S] Not worth--keep up Sus
[Elizabeth_H-S] Conference site is up with times!
[Elizabeth_H-S] Sorry--I was referring to the Webheads' conference.
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[daf] VAnce is going to Skype to talk about our WiAOC
[Elizabeth_H-S] Great!
[daf] but can talk about EVO, Eliz,
[daf] you
[Elizabeth_H-S] OK--hang on 2 secs--the household is just waking up.
[daf] lol
[Elizabeth_H-S] 916-524-6988
[daf] that was fast, eliz
[Elizabeth_H-S] Cross-talk...
[Elizabeth_H-S] Did want to mention the EVO in Jan-Feb
[daf] We want to hear about our WiAOC, Vance ;-)
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[elderbob] Now I am hearing myself on the delay.
[daf] nice to hear Elizabeth
[Sus_back] yes, Elizabeth has a very clear and fine voice call!!
[daf] when Sus starts talking she won't stop, Jeff, she might take your place ;-)
[Sus_back] Vnace is not in here and he cannot hear US in the Skype room
[Sus_back] oh Daf!!!
[daf] lol
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[Sus_back] I have stopped talking!
[dave_on_air] oh no!
[daf] lol
[Sus_back] a roundtable discussion sounds very interesting
[Sus_back] sounds like a cool session Elizabeth, can you invite Webheads for that particular session, we promise to be good
[Sus_back] i will jump out so someone else can get into Skype
[daf] yes, just like this year
[daf] Tere and I will be delivering Becoming a Webhead in its third round
[Sus_back] <i just jumped out from the Skype room without saying goodbye, perhaps very impolite'
[Elizabeth_H-S] ehansonsmi@yahoo.com
[Sus_back] actually I would need to start some cooking dinner!
[Elizabeth_H-S] Sus--it's breakfast time for us!
[daf] almost lunch time for me
[Sus_back] and I am in a team of three co-moderators preparing an EVO blog course with Jane and Anna
[Sus_back] we do hear you so well Vance
[daf] the sound is great here
[Elizabeth_H-S] I agree, Vance
[Sus_back] i just found out I will be in Spain for the TESOL week
[Sus_back] so I will probably have to do with recorded podcasts
[Sus_back] the TESOL 2005 Webheads Fiesta was audioblogged live from Austin
[daf] I hope to be in Tampa
[Sus_back] so you will not be in Spain that week :-(
[daf] I have not been to TESOL for 3 years in a row
[daf] he he, the TESOL Alado session
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[daf] well,I think we need to be critical when a tools is not used in the best way
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[daf] are
[daf] they could have recorded a video-conference
[Sus_back] I found out I was not able to text chat because I wanted to know the name of the presenter and I would have asked someone in p¾r
[daf] and then people would have asked the questions in a forum
[daf] Vance cannot read these comments
[Elizabeth_H-S] Did anyone give them feedback??
[daf] well, we have discussed this issue in the WiA list
[JeffLebow] Would anyone else like to skype in to offer feedback?
[JeffLebow] We like interactivity!
[daf] Andy said that they had not want to rehearse
[jo] Well, guys, I guess I'm off to bed now. See you next time.
[daf] they had no time to rehearse
[JeffLebow] Thanks for staying up JO
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[JeffLebow] Sleep well
[daf] and to get to know how to use Alado
[Sus_back] This is indeed a problem I am also experiencing with the Nordic voice conference; presenters/discussion leaders are not aware...
[Sus_back] how much they would need to train with a new online environment
[Sus_back] the idea of having personal coaches sounds very heloful'
[daf] yes
[Elizabeth_H-S] TESOL isn't really on our WiA list, so maybe Vance should summarize for John?
[Elizabeth_H-S] Alado just gives Mac users so many problems, for some reason.
[Sus_back] I agree, John and Margo should know we have had this dsicusssion
[Elizabeth_H-S] Can you have more than one chatroom at a time, Dave?
[JeffLebow] yes
[daf] Christine B-R is in the list and she mentioned that the TAC should let them know
[dave_on_air] hey.. that was my question!!!
[dave_on_air] yes.
[Elizabeth_H-S] But will Christine do that?
[daf] no idea
[Elizabeth_H-S] (the should part...)
[daf] Susan G. is the TAC chair now
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[Elizabeth_H-S] Dave was so neat on the phone--I felt it was a conversation, not a broadcast.
[dave_on_air] that's the goal
[daf] yes, Eliz. I had the experience in spain
[elderbob] and I have lost the sound somehow.
[elderbob] Now the sound comes on.
[daf] Jeff phoned me while I was by the swimming pool, and having lunch with family
[elderbob] Im listening to Vance, so I think this is quite delayed.
[Elizabeth_H-S] It has to make the connection.
[daf] they could even hear the spanish accent of my family and friends there
[daf] VAnce is speaking
[elderbob] So maybe it is not delayed.
[Elizabeth_H-S] I had that problem for a minute, Vance.
[Elizabeth_H-S] But I just started over with the address.
[daf] he he
[elderbob] I am listening to Vance, but I h ave a picture of Bush on my TV.
[daf] :-(
[elderbob] \Im pretending Bush is actually Vance.
[daf] lol
[elderbob] I iike Bush much bettter that way.
[Sus_back] Webheads can be very very tough!!
[Elizabeth_H-S] Oh Bob :D
[Elizabeth_H-S] You see, we are talking out of turn again....
[elderbob] Im always out of turn....
[Elizabeth_H-S] To Skype in--do we go to Skype or what?
[Sus_back] thank you everyone - this was another great Sunday afternoon
[daf] lol
[elderbob] But I m listening to the conversation.
[elderbob] Maybe its a left brain, right brain thing.
[elderbob] My left brain is text messaging.
[Elizabeth_H-S] Maybe a Skype link could be put in the list?
[elderbob] Right brain is listening.
[Sus_back] yes, open Skype and make a call for worldbridges or dave_cormier
[Elizabeth_H-S] Definitely!
[Sus_back] interesting split brain case, eBob
[Sus_back] virtual T-shirts?
[Sus_back] we can print our own shirts
[elderbob] Actually in my case, I think it has been subdivided, by my del.icio.us categorries.
[elderbob] Thats a great idea.
[elderbob] and what about theme music.
[daf] this is our map for the BaW-06 session
[Elizabeth_H-S] Thanks, Dave--great 'cast
[daf] http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/baw2006
[Sus_back] :puts on her good old invisibility cloak
[elderbob] It was fun....
[dave_on_air] cool
[Sus_back] :vanishes in cyberspace
[elderbob] bye all.
[Sus_back] Bye bye dear edtdechers
[elderbob] More coffe...
[daf] we should have webheads-worldbridges t-shirts
[Sus_back] wow
[Elizabeth_H-S] I'm curious how you accept multiple Skypes?
[daf] thanks, Jeff and Dave
[Elizabeth_H-S] At TESOL Tampa, that will be true, but they WILL tell you.
[Sus_back] did you try to make a call yet Eliz?
[elderbob] They are on a conference call in skype
[Elizabeth_H-S] That
[dave_on_air] thanks for coming
[dave_on_air] nice to have you as always
[Elizabeth_H-S] 's why we need to arrange this beforehand with TESOL and CALL-IS.
[elderbob] But they did say earlier, that there was a way to include even more participants on a MAC
[Elizabeth_H-S] Vance--whoa!--there may be guards at the door of the conference this year.
[Elizabeth_H-S] We do need to make some arrangements.
[daf] well, hope not to get busted as I got in the airport of my own country :-(
[Elizabeth_H-S] The EV is Tom Robb and Susan Gaer as Chair and Chair-elect
[Elizabeth_H-S] But Steve will be there too.
[Elizabeth_H-S] OK--at least register.
[daf] ;-)
[Elizabeth_H-S] I think it would be better both for CALL IS and for EdTech to be "official" however.
[elderbob] In Florida, they will be considered to be broadcasting to Cuba
[Elizabeth_H-S] Yes--think of Daf's experience!
[Elizabeth_H-S] Of course Dave isn't as cute.
[Elizabeth_H-S] We'
[Elizabeth_H-S] d like to get official sponsorship and help in setup, etc.
[dave_on_air] we like being aofficial
[elderbob] And you fellows could help set up the Live Webhead party.
[Elizabeth_H-S] CALL IS will be all for it--and it's only courteous to let them know in advance what will happen.
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[dave_on_air] yes... and who's saying i'm not cute
[Elizabeth_H-S] We'd like to gather interviewees, not interfere with the pre-advertised schedule, etc.
[JeffLebow] Absolutely. We want to make sure everyone knows what we have in mind and is OK with it
[elderbob] We did that in San Antonio.
[Elizabeth_H-S] Yes
[Elizabeth_H-S] Many times at the EV, they have limited access and you have to take a number.
[daf] I prefer a pub
[daf] with some beer samplers
[Elizabeth_H-S] We'd want to be a star show--like Garrison Keiler.
[elderbob] Are you going to be there, Daf?
[daf] hope to, Bob
[elderbob] THen you can host the 2nd annual Cyber Celebration for webheads.
[daf] I have not been able to make it to TESOl since Salt Lake
[Elizabeth_H-S] Gotta to attend to family--but stay in touch guys. I really would hate to see this totally "on the wing"--should be official.
[elderbob] Dave and Jeff will help you.
[Elizabeth_H-S] Bye all! Thanx for a great session--sorry I missed Downes last week.
[elderbob] Bye Elizabeth.
[daf] I would love to do it if I can make it there, bob
[elderbob] I would be happy to help in the virtual sense.
[elderbob] You need to get with Vance and Elizabeth and see what the best date and time might be.
[elderbob] I can tell you how I did San Antonio, and I am sure those who were there, may have some of their own suggestions
[elderbob] Take the web presence class in January.
[daf] you are a born webhead, Jeff
[elderbob] Well, I lost audio again so I am going too.
[elderbob] I will talke to you all on another time.
[elderbob] \bye.
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[daf] back to work, guys, nice being here again :-)
[daf] thanks!

EdTechTalk#21 - October 23, 2005

EdTechTalk#21
October 23, 2005

 The latest EdTech News, updated webcasting resources,  discussions of technical 'literacty' and the virtue of interactivity in synchronous presentations, and info about upcoming virtual conferences and events. 

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EdTechTalk#20 Chat Transcript

EdTechTalk#20 Chat Transcript
October 16, 2005

[daf] hi everybody!
[daf] yes, nice sound
[dave] hey daf
[dave] how goes it
[daf] :-)
[daf] fine, tons of work but surviving
[daf] wb, Will
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[dave] hi buth!
[daf] hi Buth
[buthaina] Hi Dave, :-)
[buthaina] Hi Daf..
[buthaina] Hay, Jeff..how are you..
[buthaina] I use Hay as Ola..is this good Dave,
Daf..I noticed it was used like that in a movie
[daf] Hay?
[buthaina] Yes
[daf] Ola is wave
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[buthaina] The movie: Spanglish, Daf
[daf] in Spanish, hello in portuguese
[daf] never heard of it
[daf] but you know the Spanishes of the world ;-)
[buthaina] Ola/Hola
[daf] yes
[buthaina] Yep, that was Spanglish , Daf
[daf] Hay = heno in spanish
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[buthaina] have you heard of it
[daf] hi Dennis
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[sroseman] -9
[daf] no, Buth, maybe Dennis who is exposed to other spanishes
[Dennis] Hi, Daf. I had to change my screen display before I could see the typing window.
[buthaina] thanks, Daf..Never mind will ask Dennis later
[sroseman] wonders if there will be talk about Apple's new announcements
[daf] we are waiting for the talk to start :-)
[Dennis] Which announcements, SR?
[daf] I am a PC user
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[daf] hello Stephen, welcome!
[Dennis] Stephen Downes here!!! Incredible!!!
[elderbob] Hello all, and welcome Stephen.
[buthaina] or the announcement about iTune
[Stephen_Downes] Hiya Folx
[Dennis] Yes, I thought it might be about iTunes or about the ROKR cell phone.
[buthaina] Hi Stephen and welcome, :-)
[Dennis] Ditto!
[willrich] Hey everyone!
[daf] I have taken a screenshot :-)
[Dennis] Terrific, Daf!
[daf] hi Will
[buthaina] Me too..Daf..great minds think alike..heheh
[daf] lol, buth
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[Dennis] And Will Richardson here, too!!! Equally incredible!!!
[daf] yes, 2 gurus :-)
[sroseman] I am googling both names
[sroseman] Stephen ..born in Montreal
[sroseman] me too
[buthaina] 2 great thinkers and teachers, happy to be hear to learn from them and others of course, :-0
[Dennis] I feel exactly the same, Buth.
[daf] it is so exciting to be listening to them LIVE
[Dennis] (another ditto from me!)
[sroseman] http://www.downes.ca/me/index.htm
[buthaina] clap, clap, clap..
[Rita] (this is fantastic!)
[daf] :D
[Dennis] I agree, Rita.
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[daf] you are a philosopher, Stephen
[Stephen_Downes] My web page is http://www.downes.ca
[daf] lol
[daf] I heard of Stephen back in 2002 at the Networking 2002 conference (Australia)
[Rita] me too, Daf
[daf] yes, we were there together, Rit
[sroseman] what area of Montreal*-+
[buthaina] I learned about Stephen from the Webheads in Action community in 2002
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[buthaina] provbably it was you who reported it to us, Daf..:-)
[Dennis] And I learned about Stephen and Will this year. Before this year, I only knew about ESL figures:
[Rita] "being online changes everything"...., how very true!
[daf] didn't you attend that conference, Buth. We presented with Michael C.
[daf] right, Rit
[daf] joining webheads is a door to the world, Dennis
[Dennis] Charles Kelly, Ruth Vilmi, Randall Davis, Dave Sperling, Elaine Hoter
[willrich] My weblog is at http://www.weblogg-ed.com
[buthaina] Not sure, Daf..I attended the one in Hawii, was it that one?
[Dennis] It certainly is, Daf.
[daf] no, much before that one
[sroseman] Worldbridges is opening up a new frontier for me in terms of tech innovation
[Rita] once you open that door you are out into the whole world
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[Dennis] Ditto, SR--Worldbridges and the Webheads are doing that.
[daf] I have learned about podcasting thanks to JeffL
[buthaina] And I learned about Will from Worldbridges; maybe eBob too earlier..
[Dennis] I have your weblogg in my feed list, WR.
[daf] didn't will give a talk about RSS at LT?
[Dennis] I remember when the Web was mostly read.
[Dennis] And this is an incredible learning opportunity for us as well!
[sroseman] oops..another blip
[sroseman] I did use the web when it was text based
[daf] yes, he did: Recording: "RSS: The New Killer App for Educators" with WillRichardson
[daf] you can find it at the Webheads room in LT
[daf] http://home.learningtimes.net/learningtimes?go=273662
[Dennis] Hear, hear, SD!
[sroseman] Thanks Daf
[daf] :-)
[Rita] thanks, Daf
[daf] it is really good if you want to learn how to RSS
[Dennis] "It changes everything because it eliminates those barriers." Hear, hear.
[daf] a borderless world
[Dennis] Definitely!
[elderbob] Wikibooks.
[Dennis] Traditionally, though, textbook publishers are the last to adopt something new.
[Dennis] I was a textbook editor.
[dave] no offense dennis
[Dennis] I remember when few publishers used desktop publishing. Now, of course, that's common.
[Dennis] No offense taken--none at all.
[daf] publishers only think of the money they will get out of something
[daf] in general
[Dennis] Yes--and they also have a great deal invested in hard-copy machinery.
[daf] they "control" education in schools
[sroseman] I have an art text with web references throughout..a grabber for me purchasing the text
[Dennis] Yes, definitely, Daf.
[Dennis] I wonder how soon we'll "get there."
[daf] Viva Moodle!!!
[elderbob] sroseman, there are several companies in computer training that have sheeeese interactive books and websites working in
[elderbob] conjunction with each other.
[sroseman] of course, elderbob
[Dennis] The whole idea of holistic learning will be a challenge.
[Rita] and thare are already books including sites for consultation, at least...
[daf] my case
[Dennis] The educational establishment resists change and is also heavily invested in a "controlled learning" model.
[daf] right, Dennis
[Rita] true
[Dennis] It's too bad, isn't it?
[elderbob] EVonline is an informal classroom?
[Rita] people are not ready yet
[daf] I am a weirdo in my university
[Dennis] Definitely, EB.
[daf] I think it is, Bob
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[Dennis] Yes, I imagine you are, Daf, but that doesn't matter, because you're also a visionary.
[sroseman] what happens to all those traditional architectural school spaces?
[daf] I really don't mind, I feel happy not to follow the crowd
[Dennis] Why does that not surprise me, Daf?
[buthaina] Yaodong says hi to all of you and tells you that he is sad since his "new home is not connected to the net"and cannot join us u
[Dennis] :D
[daf] say hi to him, Buth
[Dennis] the smilie was for Daf, not Yaodong!
[daf] lol
[Dennis] <<chuckle, chuckle, chuckle>>
[buthaina] done already Daf..Was clear to me Dennis, haven't confused things..:-)
[Dennis] Good, Buth!
[buthaina] :-)
[Rita] ;-)
[Dennis] :o)
[Dennis] The fact that people want to "see it" is encouraging.
[sroseman] *
[Dennis] It's folly to think that everything will change overnight, so the fact that people want to know
[Dennis] what Web 2.0 can do is very encouraging indeed.
[buthaina] It's break fasting time here..My children are calling me to have Iftar now..Will have this window open and volume higher to hear
[Rita] yes, Dennis, but some still dont want to know...
[Dennis] Here are some virtual dates, Buth.
[Dennis] Oh, I agree, Rita.
[buthaina] thank god we have the talk recorded too; thanks to worldbridges..:-)
[daf] I love dates
[Dennis] Definitely, Buth!
[buthaina] thanks, Dennis
[Dennis] In many places, they're a traditional way to break the fast. Am I correct about that, Buth?
[Dennis] Afwan, Buth.
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[Dennis] Hi, LLD.
[LangLabDirectrix] hello
[daf] wb, LLD
[elderbob] But didnt we have similar issues years ago, when Sony wanted to release tape recorders.
[Dennis] And both publishing and education are power-based.
[LangLabDirectrix] sorry, closed a window, and lost connection
[Dennis] I think we always have similar issues when the paradigm shifts, EB.
[daf] definitely, Dennis
[Dennis] Do you remember, for example, when calculators first became available?
[daf] students are amazed when we want them to be autonomous
[Dennis] :o) Daf
[Dennis] Definitely!
[Rita] yes, and so many other things this generation ahs been lucky to appreciate !
[Dennis] Hear, hear, Rita!
[Dennis] An appreciation for diversity has been a wonderful paradigm shift since I was a child.
[LangLabDirectrix] my son is trying to do an opinion piece for school on whether technology should be a requirement for graduation. He is 13 and
[Dennis] That's not to say that North American culture has no xenophobia, of course.
[LangLabDirectrix] has never known the world w/o it
[Rita] you are fortunate to have the gift for that, Dennis, not everybody has it!
[Dennis] Interesting question, LLD.
[daf] I had a discussion with my graduate students about that, LLD
[LangLabDirectrix] and what did they think?
[daf] my architecture students think that what they are doing in my classes should be done in al their other courses
[Dennis] It was obviously designed by someone who's much older--and has experienced the times when technology was NOT a heavy part
[Dennis] of school work.
[Dennis] I'm sure they do, "Daf.
[Dennis] Rita: My family is a mixed one and I've always felt more comfortable in diverse groups.
[daf] both grad and undergrad students think they should learn about tech as part of their curriculum
[LangLabDirectrix] If you require it will they learn it any better? Use it?
[elderbob] Flat earthed.
[Dennis] Flat-earthed indeed!
[Dennis] I wonder, LLD. Sometimes I think they learn it better informally and on their own!
[daf] venezuela has always been a melting pot
[daf] I agree, Dennis
[Rita] being in the middle of the continent, yes, Daf
[Dennis] The U.S. is often described as a melting pot, but it may be more of a salad than a melting pot!
[LangLabDirectrix] yes but then shouldn't we try to tap into that and help them express themselves through that medium?
[LangLabDirectrix] Or is that too teacher centered
[daf] that's what we are trying to do, LLD
[Dennis] Yes, LLD, I think we should, but they have less fear of it and are more willing to discover their own ways of managing it.
[Rita] first teachers should be convinced and knowledgble
[Dennis] We who have learned to use technology learned it in a different way.
[daf] we give the means, LLD
[LangLabDirectrix] (can you tell I entered late?) :? :?
[Dennis] Right, Daf--but not in a step-by-step way.
[daf] and allow students to go on their own
[Dennis] Definitely!
[daf] lol, Jeff
[daf] I feel a citizen of the world
[elderbob] Im not giving up my Texas citizenship.
[elderbob] No more countries, just networks.
[Dennis] A Texican forever!
[daf] lol
[LangLabDirectrix] Elder Bob: that is a great slogan!
[sroseman] How will web 2.0 impact the K to 6 curriculum/classroom
[Dennis] http://www.rubyonrails.org/
[daf] thanks, Dennis
[Dennis] Hear, hear, EB ("No more countries . . . .")
[Dennis] :o)
[LangLabDirectrix] Well, given that my 10 year old's first complete sentence was "double click mommy, noit single click" I think Web 2.0 NEEDS to b
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[daf] welcome Sus
[Dennis] Hugs to Sus!
[LangLabDirectrix] needs to be here for these kids
[daf] :hugs Sus
[Rita] welcome, Sus!
[Sus_Nyrop_] hello dear webheads, I am listening to the conversation
[Sus_Nyrop_] whould I like to live in Webheadsland; intriguing question
[elderbob] Stephen, what is the Web 2.0 language or are we there yet?
[Rita] we do, Sus, when we are together....
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[Dennis] "I'd like to live in Webheadsland"
[Sus_Nyrop_] I would also like to know more about the so called web 2.0
[Dennis] "in perfect harmony"
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[daf] that would be a good topic for a film
[Rita] we are blesed people
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[daf] wb LLD
[Dennis] "Where all's networked and inter-knit"
[Dennis] "in one community"
[dave] http://www.cetis.ac.uk/members/scott/blogview?entry=20050125170206
[LangLabDirectrix] no countries just networks...I am printing the bumper stickers tomorrow
[Sus_Nyrop_] why not have community by choice
[Rita] reminds me of John Lennon's words..
[Dennis] (Do you remember the Coca Cola commercial with "I'd like to teach the world to live . . ." as the theme song?)
[daf] webheads utopia
[LangLabDirectrix] I could send the mp3 of that.... beware
[elderbob] Im of a John Lennon thought process
[Sus_Nyrop_] Oops
[Dennis] Use that tune for "I'd like to live in Webheadsland"
[daf] you can record it for the WiAOC
[Sus_Nyrop_] I would like to jump in and out from differnt "countries" or contexts
[Dennis] Not with my voice, Daf!
[Rita] we should tell Michael C
[Dennis] Hear, hear, Sus!
[elderbob] More wiki like.
[daf] right, Rita
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[daf] hi Jo
[Dennis] Hi, Jo.
[Rita] hi, Jo
[jo] Hi, all
[daf] our web presence
[Sus_Nyrop_] My local family life could not easily be incorporated in the webheadsland
[elderbob] Very much web presence.
[sroseman] I guess I am using web 2.0..not ware of it RSS flikr..delicious..
[Dennis] "Your locus . . . your personal VLE": what a wonderful concept. I wonder when it will become commonplace?
[Sus_Nyrop_] love that call voice!!
[elderbob] Power failure=political coup.
[daf] I remember when Jeff phone me when I was in Spain having lunch by the swimming pool
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[daf] HI Ric
[Sus_Nyrop_] yes, that was a hilarious lunch!
[Dennis] http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-...
[Rickpr38] Hi! I am still working on getting sound....
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[daf] click on one of the icons below the chat window
[Sus_Nyrop_] Rick, hello
[daf] I am using WMP
[daf] yes, I love audacity, too
[Rickpr38] I get beeps and a welcome message....
[Rita] click on the icon in the middle
[Dennis] Audacity: a fantastic tool--and a free one!
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[daf] I am using Audacity, and iTunes
[daf] iTunes to RSS podcasts
[Dennis] http://www.digital-web.com/articles/web_2_for_designers/
[Sus_Nyrop_] blogging rules
[Dennis] http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,69114,00.html
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[daf] wb, Rick
[Sus_Nyrop_] social tools will change community collaboration in and outside the classroom
[Rickpr38] Hi again! I got the sound to work. It is on another browser....
[daf] tablet PC?
[Dennis] http://news.com.com/2061-11199_3-5892829.html
[Sus_Nyrop_] bravo Rick!!!
[Sus_Nyrop_] you passed teh webheads test, we never give up
[Rickpr38] Thanks, sus! I couldn't have done it without eveeryone's help. {:-{>}
[elderbob] Is this similar in concept to the $100. PC on Andy Carvins list?
[Rickpr38] Sus, My skype name is rickpr38. I couldn't find or call you....
[Sus_Nyrop_] :hands Rick todays' Wild Webheads pin"
[Rickpr38] : puts it on with pride and a smile
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[Dennis] leads the applause: Hip, hip . . .
[daf] that's great!
[Rickpr38] This is new for me. Who uses this forum? Is it open to all educators?
[Rita] incredible this tablet they are describing....
[daf] my architecture students would love it!
[Dennis] http://www.pencomputing.com/TabletPC/
[buthaina] Í'm back
[Dennis] http://www.tabletpc2.com/
[daf] wb, buth
[sroseman] reminds me of the Apple eMate project..which I was involved in sometime ago
[Rickpr38] How can we see who is talking?
[buthaina] thanks, daf
[Dennis] http://www.tabletpchome.com/
[daf] you don't see, just listen, rick
[buthaina] You cannot see, Rick..
[jo] Dennis, your going great with all the sites. Thank you
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[Rickpr38] I see. I mean, I don't.... [:-{>}
[daf] Dennis is a treasure
[Rita] wb Sus
[Rita] he is, Daf!
[elderbob] http://laptop.media.mit.edu/
[Rickpr38] Are tablets more expensive than regular laptops?
[LangLabDirectrix] yes they are...and they are heavy
[LangLabDirectrix] we use them for teaching stroke order in japanese and chinese
[elderbob] The MIT $100. laptop has a tablet self contained.
[LangLabDirectrix] we use Gateways
[Rickpr38] 100? 1,000?
[elderbob] 100
[Rickpr38] Wow!
[elderbob] Dont get too excited, its still experimental.
[LangLabDirectrix] and not available...yet
[Sus_Nyrop_] I am being haunted, my real player started to play something else (a samba I think)
[sroseman] used this one in a pilot project http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/messagepad/stats/emate_300.html
[Rickpr38] I would love to be able to get 100 laptops into schools with few resources...
[elderbob] Correct.
[dave] we talked to someone who's using 20dollar thin clients in a computer lab
[dave] Kathy in New Hampshire
[LangLabDirectrix] what is Kathy's email?
[elderbob] Now you got me....Ive not heard of a 20 thin client, is that like a palm or phone device.
[Sus_Nyrop_] the thin client for school use is cool; you can recycle old machines; only teh server need to be a really strong working horse
[elderbob] Ill have to look that up, I dont think I have heard of it before.
[Rickpr38] recycling old machines? Tell me more!
[sroseman] training and professional development is essential with new tech..modeling is the key factor
[Sus_Nyrop_] no - you use any PC, but let them be connected to the server, I think programs are stored centrally
[Rickpr38] Can anyone speak?
[sroseman] speechless
[daf] ys, Rick just contact them in skype
[Rickpr38] {:-{>}
[Rickpr38] I am doing my first skype on my own account today....
[Sus_Nyrop_] I know a school that made this thin client project and they used all their old outdated pcs with succes
[daf] the EVO sessions do a great job for TPD
[daf] and for free
[Dennis] Here's some pricing info on tablet PCs:
[buthaina] interesting, Sus..
[Dennis] http://shopper-search.cnet.com/search?q=tablet+PC&tag=top
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[daf] the skype name is Worldbridges, Rick
[elderbob] So you havent met invivo, but you have virtually met.
[buthaina] thanks, Dennis
[Dennis] Afwan!
[buthaina] :-)
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[Dennis] This is also interesting on tablet PCs:
[daf] sus seems to be having problems
[Dennis] http://www.tabletpchome.com/
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[elderbob] Do you think there are common areas in the long tail of their tag clouds.
[Dennis] <<chuckles>>
[elderbob] Dennis, it is always nice to have you around....
[sroseman] a PC or tablet on every two students desks..my dream..classrooms with students sitting in pods working collabiratively
[daf] That is a great idea, Dave
[Dennis] SR: And this works very well--even though students often think there needs to be one PC per student.
[daf] Teachers are action researchers
[Dennis] Or they SHOULD be!
[Dennis] Can be?
[daf] we always look for ways to solve problems, and then look at the results
[daf] the only cycle most teachers miss is the publishing
[Dennis] And many teachers generate reams of customized classroom materials--so they are still publishing, but on a local level.
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[Rita] need to leave, folks, it's been a great pleasure!
[daf] yes, or sometimes they do not even share it with colleaagues
[elderbob] Bye Rita.
[Dennis] It's been good to share time together, Rita.
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[Dennis] Take care, OK?
[jo] Bye Rita
[daf] bye, Rita, see you on Wed
[buthaina] Bye, Rita
[Rita] as usual, Dennis, when we are together, thank you!
[Dennis] <<blushing>>
[daf] un abrazo
[Rita] yep, Daf ;-)
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[Dennis] Y otro abrazo!
[Rita] uno para cada uno!
[daf] gracias!
[Rita] :D
[Dennis] ÁMil gracias!
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[buthaina] What is hapenning on Wed, Daf? Am I missing anything?
[Sus_Nyrop] rick, I just added you as my skype friend
[Dennis] "Making priorities . . . is an important skill." Yes, but not an easy one to develop!
[Sus_Nyrop] Andy has a TESOL something session on Wednesday
[Dennis] Where, Sus?
[Sus_Nyrop] in Alado
[Dennis] Is it an open session?
[Sus_Nyrop] you can get a pass if you send email to andy
[Sus_Nyrop] webheads don't pay!!
[Dennis] Thanks, Sus. Do you know what the schedule is?
[Sus_Nyrop] "no child left behind"
[Dennis] Terrific!
[Sus_Nyrop] :listens to Rick!
[daf] Tuesday at 19:00 GMT or 15:00 Eastern Standard Time.
[Dennis] Thanks, Daf.
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[daf] nice to hear Rick
[buthaina] Sus, I think Andy's TESOL seminar is on Tuesday , Oct 18 not Wed.
[daf] hi Chris
[Dennis] Hi, Chris.
[sroseman] like de.lirio.us for catching relevant tidbits of info http://de.lirio.us/rubric
[Dennis] Definitely, SR!
[daf] that would be great!!
[Sus_Nyrop] I may be wrong Buth
[jo] Wow, that would be great. Real learning
[daf] yes, it is on Tuesday, Sus
[sroseman] tell him to quit Real Player
[Sus_Nyrop] once we do get the shared wb, we will feel more at home here
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[daf] hi app
[Dennis] Hi, App.
[Sus_Nyrop] we need to develop podcasting literacy!
[buthaina] If you were at Tapped In today, just wait for the Chatlog where you can find all the info by Andy, Rick, Sus and all
[Dennis] Hear, hear, Sus.
[buthaina] My Remedial English classes are 110 minutes, and students like to stay more, Daf especially if we are at the c-lab.
[buthaina] It's good here , Rick
[Rickpr38] I had no sound for about a moment (my hearing perhaps?)
[Sus_Nyrop] it is such fun when kids get sop immersed that they wist to stay in the computer lab
[sroseman] I am from Onterio ..just noticed this http://curriculum.enoreo.on.ca/ontario_blogs/why_blog.html
[daf] yes, Buth, that is the problem they want to keep working on the computer
[Sus_Nyrop] sometimes you will have a time lag Rick
[daf] and some of my students attend classes from home
[Rickpr38] sus, I think that must be it. In the archives on Worldbridges is the sound feed also saved?
[buthaina] Yeah, like my hair now, full of Gel and Spiky..heheh
[daf] this is my class podcasting blog: http://courses.worldbridges.com/dyg_usb/
[daf] my students will start podcasting next week
[buthaina] If I did that, Daf, have students join the class from home, I could have got fired..
[Rickpr38] daf, how quickly did your students take to podcasting?
[daf] so far they are listening to podcastings made by webheads
[buthaina] It doesn't matter now..I resigned..
[daf] I am step by step, Rick
[Rickpr38] I am new to it myself....
[daf] first they are listening to others' podcasts (recorded especially for them)
[daf] and they have activiites to complete,
[buthaina] Happy, Vance is able to skype the globe now..Bravo UAE
[Rickpr38] daf, what is the time limit of the podcasts
[daf] and next step is for them to do the podcasts
[daf] what do you mean, time limit?
[Rickpr38] yes.
[daf] around 5-7 minutes, I think
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[JeffLebow] Dave, just wanted to let you know I can't read your skype chat. My skype window is really scary looking
[dave] Jeff: mine is fine
[Sus_Nyrop] I lost you, am back
[JeffLebow] how many people do you see in the conference?
[dave] 6
[daf] I am having problems with spam on my students blogs in blogger :-(
[JeffLebow] Wow!
[Sus_Nyrop] spell it here pls
[Stephen_Downes] manila
[Stephen_Downes] rss2javascript
[jo] daf, have you got them to turn on word verification?
[Sus_Nyrop] who is now talking?
[Sus_Nyrop] thank you
[daf] yes, they have done that
[Rickpr38] There is a size limite for the casts, no? sounds like vance?
[JeffLebow] skype conferences are limited to 5 participants....somehow we've overcome that
[Sus_Nyrop] Is that Will Richardson speaking?
[Rickpr38] I am getting some feedback from Vance. Anyone else. sounds metallic
[Stephen_Downes] yes
[Rickpr38] (if it was Vance)
[sroseman] our school district disallowed the use of blogs due to some bullying practices
[sroseman] among students
[daf] since my students topic is architecture or urban planning they are getting messages with adds about arch. stuff
[Sus_Nyrop] instead of teaching blog culture and avoid bullying
[sroseman] replaced by Ontario Blogs http://curriculum.enoreo.on.ca/ontario_blogs/about_blogs.html
[buthaina] Yes, Rick, me..I'm getting metalic when waslistening to Vance,minor though
[daf] Vance always have that problem in LT and Alado
[Sus_Nyrop] yes, some blog comment spam seem to be generated by some sort of tag tracking
[daf] LiveJournal is free of spam, so far
[buthaina] oh, Why don't suggest the use of BlogMeister to your school, Sroseman
[sroseman] we are using blogmeister
[sroseman] http://classblogmeister.com/blog.php?blogger_id=6860
[buthaina] Blogmeister. by David Warlick are very secured and no one can post a comment without a password provided by a class teacher
[daf] but that is too restricted, Buth
[daf] the idea of a blog is to be read
[buthaina] does David knows about this; if you join his YG you can report this to him
[Sus_Nyrop] smartasses from obscure corporate bizniz have grabbed the RSS for their spread of links to ad sites they hope people will click
[daf] and get comments from others, not only your classmates. For that you don't need a blog
[buthaina] Daf , I used it in Fall 2004, ad it worked very good
[daf] yes, but for that kind of activity we don't need to use a blog
[daf] you can use a forum
[sroseman] Blogger and xanga seem to be blocked by our school district
[buthaina] I agree, Stephen, so far it''s the best for me and my students..easy and simple
[sroseman] we have to go with Blogmeister
[Sus_Nyrop] elgg is an interesting option, but still in the making - I like the FOAF feature
[buthaina] Where are you located, sorseman
[Sus_Nyrop] that's Sue Roseman
[sroseman] Ontario, Canada
[sroseman] yep..that's me
[daf] yes, I love buzznet
[buthaina] I'm sorry to hear that, soresman
[buthaina] Yes, I agree, Vance..Buzznet is so cool, easy and simple and we can do lots of things with it
[Sus_Nyrop] Strongly agree on this point
[daf] I have been having problems connecting to buzznet in the last few days
[Sus_Nyrop] that we do need to support developing communicative internet skills
[daf] it says that there is too much traffic
[sroseman] a controlled envirnment with blogmeister here in Ontario http://curriculum.enoreo.on.ca/ontario_blogs/about_blogs.html
[buthaina] Maybe they're maintaining their site, Daf..
[sroseman] environment
[buthaina] sroseman, maybe you could have the management in your school listen to today's talk in order to convinc them to unblock Blogger.
[jo] I'm really enjoying this but I've got to go. Have a good week all. Goodnight
[sroseman] possibly..but the guidelines have been set
[Sus_Nyrop] :/
[Sus_Nyrop] goodnight Jo
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[buthaina] I agree, sroseman about blogmesiter, but it's good for kids in order to provide a secure environment
[Sus_Nyrop] you should also consider the democratic potential that the internet may have for students
[buthaina] FYI, blogmeister has started Podcasting too
[sroseman] I agree
[Sus_Nyrop] which factor please?
[Sus_Nyrop] I did not understand the term
[buthaina] which term, Sus?
[Sus_Nyrop] the something factor
[buthaina] Sorry, I think I've missed that
[buthaina] Thanks, Vance and Sus
[Rickpr38] something?
[Sus_Nyrop] elgg is structured a bit differently
[daf] I finally got to my students buzznet on rhythm http://dyg-brainmaps.buzznet.com/user/
[Sus_Nyrop] but I still find I need to use it for a while to become familiar with the ideas
[Sus_Nyrop] I got an elgg blog and found many likeminded friends to link to
[daf] I have an elgg account but have not started a blog yet ;-)
[Sus_Nyrop] so I can read my FOAF stream
[Sus_Nyrop] http://elgg.net/netopnyrop
[daf] I am exploring a new wiki with my grad students: http://ambientescolaborativos.pbwiki.com
[buthaina] Yeah, it's the Wiki announced by Jay Cross, Daf..I like it
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[Sus_Nyrop] it is a formalized learning paradigm, BB & WEbCT are promoting the more traditional trivial classrom lecture standards
[Sus_Nyrop] I like wikispaces.org
[willrich] Power is on!
[daf] Sus I have just written the first entry to the Elgg blog: http://elgg.net/daf/weblog/
[buthaina] Hi, Will, and welcome to the chat room
[Rickpr38] Who is actually on, has access to, Internet 2?
[daf] Hi Will, wb
[daf] I had forgotten I had that account
[buthaina] No sound here
[daf] I have sound
[buthaina] Anyone is talking now?!!
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[daf] wb sus
[buthaina] Dave..Help..No sound is here
[daf] Sus, sent you the link to my elgg blog: http://elgg.net/daf/weblog/
[dave] checking now...
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[buthaina] Thanks
[JeffLebow] Still no sound for anyonE?
[Sus_Nyrop] You can find my comment daf and click on that
[daf] I have sound
[Sus_Nyrop] I hear well
[dave] k. is there sound...
[buthaina] Yes, Jeff, no sound here
[Rickpr38] Jeff, click onthe links below.
[dave] mmm
[Rickpr38] :one of them anyway
[buthaina] Ok, Now..
[Sus_Nyrop] We plan to promote elgg at our online conference for Nordic language educators in November followed by a webheads effect
[Sus_Nyrop] Anne fox is using elgg a lot
[buthaina] Anyone's talking now..Heard Sus saying : are y hearing me? and that was the last thinh i heard..
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[buthaina] I closed the webcast and opening it again now
[buthaina] ok, it works now
[daf] This has been awesome!!
[daf] Thanks Will and Stephen for a great talk!!
[buthaina] gone, now..is it me or you Jeff? I lost the sound again
[Sus_Nyrop] Sus saying something - was I???
[buthaina] Ok, the sound is back now
[Sus_Nyrop] I really have coem to feel Sunday is my best day of the weel!
[Sus_Nyrop] week
[buthaina] not again..it's gone
[Rickpr38] Thanks for sharing and for providing such an engaging intro to this platform.
[buthaina] ok, hear you now
[daf] I will be listening again to the podcast, for sure. and I will have my graduate students listen to it
[Sus_Nyrop] Dave & Jeff, I will get back to you two for getting some more ideas for our Nordic Voice conference podcast
[dave] great
[Rickpr38] How can we find this podcast?
[Sus_Nyrop] yes, lots and lots of inspiration! Thank you again, Will & Steve
[daf] at the home page, Rick
[daf] http://worldbridges.com/
[Rickpr38] Thanks daf
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[Rickpr38] Hi bob
[buthaina] Sus, I tired to join your Nrdic Moodle, but was stuck with some words I couldn't understand in Nordic Language..:-) But will try
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[buthaina] again
[Sus_Nyrop] Buth - choose English language from the login Moodle
[daf] claps, claps, claps
[buthaina] Rick, you can always come back to worldbridges to find recent and old Webcasts..They are all archived
[daf] claps, claps
[Rickpr38] buth, can you save the webcasts too?
[daf] thanks Jeff, Dave, Will and Stephen
[buthaina] I couldn't find that feature, sus
[Rickpr38] Thanks everyone!
[Sus_Nyrop] default language on this moodle servef is Danish <sigh>
[daf] you can use the RSS feed, Rick
[elderbob] I have no sound, it appears that this was the end.
[buthaina] thanks Sue..We will
[daf] and save them to your iTunes
[Sus_Nyrop] I will try to write a help note for that problem
[Rickpr38] Thanks, daf. I need to start to use RSS. I have just been reading about them so far....
[Sus_Nyrop] buy bye all of you dear Webheads and guests
[elderbob] Bye all.
[elderbob] later.
[sroseman] waves bye
[daf] this has been a great sunday morning!
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[Sus_Nyrop] Rick you will need the Becoming a Wehweads 101
[daf] lol,sus
[Sus_Nyrop] course in January - february
[buthaina] Thank you Jeff and Dave for such great Webcast..and to your Awesome Guests, Stephen and Will..
[daf] he has to join the BaW'06 session
[Sus_Nyrop] yes, great indeed, in webheradsland
[Rickpr38] Thanks, sus. It is amazing how fast one becomes rusty. I can barely type....
[Sus_Nyrop] now back to reality kitchen
[daf] it is noon here
[Sus_Nyrop] hehe my fingertips are glowing too
[Sus_Nyrop] dinner time here
[Sus_Nyrop] we have an early dinner in Denmark
[daf] I wished it were dinner time for me ;-)
[Sus_Nyrop] bye bye bye
[Sus_Nyrop] HUgs
[Rickpr38] I mean I have almost forgotten how.... Been doing too much admin stuff
[daf] bye everybody it has been apleasure as usual
[Sus_Nyrop] we're going tob eat our daily Hot Potatoes!
[daf] with True and Falso or scrambled sentences, Sus?
[Sus_Nyrop] hot boiled potatoes,summer and winter
[Sus_Nyrop] hehe
[Rickpr38] Bye daf!
[daf] bye bye
[Sus_Nyrop] with scrambeld eggs today perhaps
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[buthaina] My Remedial English classes are 110 minutes, and students like to stay more, Daf especially if we are at the c-lab.
[buthaina] It's good here , Rick
[Rickpr38] I had no sound for about a moment (my hearing perhaps?)
[Sus_Nyrop] it is such fun when kids get sop immersed that they wist to stay in the computer lab
[sroseman] I am from Onterio ..just noticed this http://curriculum.enoreo.on.ca/ontario_blogs/why_blog.html
[daf] yes, Buth, that is the problem they want to keep working on the computer
[Sus_Nyrop] sometimes you will have a time lag Rick
[daf] and some of my students attend classes from home
[Rickpr38] sus, I think that must be it. In the archives on Worldbridges is the sound feed also saved?
[buthaina] Yeah, like my hair now, full of Gel and Spiky..heheh
[daf] this is my class podcasting blog: http://courses.worldbridges.com/dyg_usb/
[daf] my students will start podcasting next week
[buthaina] If I did that, Daf, have students join the class from home, I could have got fired..
[Rickpr38] daf, how quickly did your students take to podcasting?
[daf] so far they are listening to podcastings made by webheads
[buthaina] It doesn't matter now..I resigned..
[daf] I am step by step, Rick
[Rickpr38] I am new to it myself....
[daf] first they are listening to others' podcasts (recorded especially for them)
[daf] and they have activiites to complete,
[buthaina] Happy, Vance is able to skype the globe now..Bravo UAE
[Rickpr38] daf, what is the time limit of the podcasts
[daf] and next step is for them to do the podcasts
[daf] what do you mean, time limit?
[Rickpr38] yes.
[daf] around 5-7 minutes, I think
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[JeffLebow] Dave, just wanted to let you know I can't read your skype chat. My skype window is really scary looking
[dave] Jeff: mine is fine
[Sus_Nyrop] I lost you, am back
[JeffLebow] how many people do you see in the conference?
[dave] 6
[daf] I am having problems with spam on my students blogs in blogger :-(
[JeffLebow] Wow!
[Sus_Nyrop] spell it here pls
[Stephen_Downes] manila
[Stephen_Downes] rss2javascript
[jo] daf, have you got them to turn on word verification?
[Sus_Nyrop] who is now talking?
[Sus_Nyrop] thank you
[daf] yes, they have done that
[Rickpr38] There is a size limite for the casts, no? sounds like vance?
[JeffLebow] skype conferences are limited to 5 participants....somehow we've overcome that
[Sus_Nyrop] Is that Will Richardson speaking?
[Rickpr38] I am getting some feedback from Vance. Anyone else. sounds metallic
[Stephen_Downes] yes
[Rickpr38] (if it was Vance)
[sroseman] our school district disallowed the use of blogs due to some bullying practices
[sroseman] among students
[daf] since my students topic is architecture or urban planning they are getting messages with adds about arch. stuff
[Sus_Nyrop] instead of teaching blog culture and avoid bullying
[sroseman] replaced by Ontario Blogs http://curriculum.enoreo.on.ca/ontario_blogs/about_blogs.html
[buthaina] Yes, Rick, me..I'm getting metalic when waslistening to Vance,minor though
[daf] Vance always have that problem in LT and Alado
[Sus_Nyrop] yes, some blog comment spam seem to be generated by some sort of tag tracking
[daf] LiveJournal is free of spam, so far
[buthaina] oh, Why don't suggest the use of BlogMeister to your school, Sroseman
[sroseman] we are using blogmeister
[sroseman] http://classblogmeister.com/blog.php?blogger_id=6860
[buthaina] Blogmeister. by David Warlick are very secured and no one can post a comment without a password provided by a class teacher
[daf] but that is too restricted, Buth
[daf] the idea of a blog is to be read
[buthaina] does David knows about this; if you join his YG you can report this to him
[Sus_Nyrop] smartasses from obscure corporate bizniz have grabbed the RSS for their spread of links to ad sites they hope people will click
[daf] and get comments from others, not only your classmates. For that you don't need a blog
[buthaina] Daf , I used it in Fall 2004, ad it worked very good
[daf] yes, but for that kind of activity we don't need to use a blog
[daf] you can use a forum
[sroseman] Blogger and xanga seem to be blocked by our school district
[buthaina] I agree, Stephen, so far it''s the best for me and my students..easy and simple
[sroseman] we have to go with Blogmeister
[Sus_Nyrop] elgg is an interesting option, but still in the making - I like the FOAF feature
[buthaina] Where are you located, sorseman
[Sus_Nyrop] that's Sue Roseman
[sroseman] Ontario, Canada
[sroseman] yep..that's me
[daf] yes, I love buzznet
[buthaina] I'm sorry to hear that, soresman
[buthaina] Yes, I agree, Vance..Buzznet is so cool, easy and simple and we can do lots of things with it
[Sus_Nyrop] Strongly agree on this point
[daf] I have been having problems connecting to buzznet in the last few days
[Sus_Nyrop] that we do need to support developing communicative internet skills
[daf] it says that there is too much traffic
[sroseman] a controlled envirnment with blogmeister here in Ontario http://curriculum.enoreo.on.ca/ontario_blogs/about_blogs.html
[buthaina] Maybe they're maintaining their site, Daf..
[sroseman] environment
[buthaina] sroseman, maybe you could have the management in your school listen to today's talk in order to convinc them to unblock Blogger.
[jo] I'm really enjoying this but I've got to go. Have a good week all. Goodnight
[sroseman] possibly..but the guidelines have been set
[Sus_Nyrop] :/
[Sus_Nyrop] goodnight Jo
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[buthaina] I agree, sroseman about blogmesiter, but it's good for kids in order to provide a secure environment
[Sus_Nyrop] you should also consider the democratic potential that the internet may have for students
[buthaina] FYI, blogmeister has started Podcasting too
[sroseman] I agree
[Sus_Nyrop] which factor please?
[Sus_Nyrop] I did not understand the term
[buthaina] which term, Sus?
[Sus_Nyrop] the something factor
[buthaina] Sorry, I think I've missed that
[buthaina] Thanks, Vance and Sus
[Rickpr38] something?
[Sus_Nyrop] elgg is structured a bit differently
[daf] I finally got to my students buzznet on rhythm http://dyg-brainmaps.buzznet.com/user/
[Sus_Nyrop] but I still find I need to use it for a while to become familiar with the ideas
[Sus_Nyrop] I got an elgg blog and found many likeminded friends to link to
[daf] I have an elgg account but have not started a blog yet ;-)
[Sus_Nyrop] so I can read my FOAF stream
[Sus_Nyrop] http://elgg.net/netopnyrop
[daf] I am exploring a new wiki with my grad students: http://ambientescolaborativos.pbwiki.com
[buthaina] Yeah, it's the Wiki announced by Jay Cross, Daf..I like it
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[Sus_Nyrop] it is a formalized learning paradigm, BB & WEbCT are promoting the more traditional trivial classrom lecture standards
[Sus_Nyrop] I like wikispaces.org
[willrich] Power is on!
[daf] Sus I have just written the first entry to the Elgg blog: http://elgg.net/daf/weblog/
[buthaina] Hi, Will, and welcome to the chat room
[Rickpr38] Who is actually on, has access to, Internet 2?
[daf] Hi Will, wb
[daf] I had forgotten I had that account
[buthaina] No sound here
[daf] I have sound
[buthaina] Anyone is talking now?!!
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[daf] wb sus
[buthaina] Dave..Help..No sound is here
[daf] Sus, sent you the link to my elgg blog: http://elgg.net/daf/weblog/
[dave] checking now...
elderbob has left the chat.
[buthaina] Thanks
[JeffLebow] Still no sound for anyonE?
[Sus_Nyrop] You can find my comment daf and click on that
[daf] I have sound
[Sus_Nyrop] I hear well
[dave] k. is there sound...
[buthaina] Yes, Jeff, no sound here
[Rickpr38] Jeff, click onthe links below.
[dave] mmm
[Rickpr38] :one of them anyway
[buthaina] Ok, Now..
[Sus_Nyrop] We plan to promote elgg at our online conference for Nordic language educators in November followed by a webheads effect
[Sus_Nyrop] Anne fox is using elgg a lot
[buthaina] Anyone's talking now..Heard Sus saying : are y hearing me? and that was the last thinh i heard..
sroseman has left the chat.
[buthaina] I closed the webcast and opening it again now
[buthaina] ok, it works now
[daf] This has been awesome!!
[daf] Thanks Will and Stephen for a great talk!!
[buthaina] gone, now..is it me or you Jeff? I lost the sound again
[Sus_Nyrop] Sus saying something - was I???
[buthaina] Ok, the sound is back now
[Sus_Nyrop] I really have coem to feel Sunday is my best day of the weel!
[Sus_Nyrop] week
[buthaina] not again..it's gone
[Rickpr38] Thanks for sharing and for providing such an engaging intro to this platform.
[buthaina] ok, hear you now
[daf] I will be listening again to the podcast, for sure. and I will have my graduate students listen to it
[Sus_Nyrop] Dave & Jeff, I will get back to you two for getting some more ideas for our Nordic Voice conference podcast
[dave] great
[Rickpr38] How can we find this podcast?
[Sus_Nyrop] yes, lots and lots of inspiration! Thank you again, Will & Steve
[daf] at the home page, Rick
[daf] http://worldbridges.com/
[Rickpr38] Thanks daf
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[Rickpr38] Hi bob
[buthaina] Sus, I tired to join your Nrdic Moodle, but was stuck with some words I couldn't understand in Nordic Language..:-) But will try
sroseman has joined the chat.
[buthaina] again
[Sus_Nyrop] Buth - choose English language from the login Moodle
[daf] claps, claps, claps
[buthaina] Rick, you can always come back to worldbridges to find recent and old Webcasts..They are all archived
[daf] claps, claps
[Rickpr38] buth, can you save the webcasts too?
[daf] thanks Jeff, Dave, Will and Stephen
[buthaina] I couldn't find that feature, sus
[Rickpr38] Thanks everyone!
[Sus_Nyrop] default language on this moodle servef is Danish <sigh>
[daf] you can use the RSS feed, Rick
[elderbob] I have no sound, it appears that this was the end.
[buthaina] thanks Sue..We will
[daf] and save them to your iTunes
[Sus_Nyrop] I will try to write a help note for that problem
[Rickpr38] Thanks, daf. I need to start to use RSS. I have just been reading about them so far....
[Sus_Nyrop] buy bye all of you dear Webheads and guests
[elderbob] Bye all.
[elderbob] later.
[sroseman] waves bye
[daf] this has been a great sunday morning!
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[Sus_Nyrop] Rick you will need the Becoming a Wehweads 101
[daf] lol,sus
[Sus_Nyrop] course in January - february
[buthaina] Thank you Jeff and Dave for such great Webcast..and to your Awesome Guests, Stephen and Will..

EdTechTalk#19 Chat Transcript

[scott] I just heard about K7 - http://www.k7.net/
[scott] might be something to address the functionality Jeff Flynn was looking for with voicemail
[scott] It emails you a wav file from the voicemail message
[dave] ah.
[scott] haven't tried it yet, just heard about it on a podcast today
[dave] Jeff is already using it apparently
[JeffLebow] Flynn that is
[dave] Jeff said "so... what's scott doin'?
[JeffLebow] Greetings Scott
[scott] Hello Jeff
[scott] I'm trying to encode the latest Tokyo Calling on the other computer episode 028
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