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Conversations Episode 110 - Changes for Librarians

This week Joyce Valenza and CathyJo Nelson joined us for a conversation about libraries and the new role of the librarian.

Chat:

Lisa Parisi: Hello

Sheila: Hello

rbuckhoff: Good morning

MariaK: hello

pgeorge: Good morning :-)

Lisa Parisi: Good morning Peggy

edtechtalk: Hi all!

Sheila: Ok now me

Lisa Parisi: We are here.

pgeorge: seeing and hearing now :-)

rbuckhoff: me too!

Lisa Parisi: Click on the little play button on the bottom to see and hear our show

connect2jamie: hi all! Happy Sunday!

pgeorge: K12 Online conference is eager to do a conversation with you to announce plans for this year, Have you been contacted yet?

pgeorge: yes!! photos!!

pgeorge: what a beautiful place for a wedding!

CathyJo: hello--still tuggling to getin

CathyJo: struggling

Lisa Parisi: Answer skype. That's where the sound is.

CathyJo: LOL does it not figure the media specialist is struggling?

Lisa Parisi: LOL

pgeorge: can you use autostitch for that on ipad?

Rebecca Buckhoff: My nikon camera will do time lapse.  Use the delay photo settings to set it up.

Sheila: Topic today is the future of libraries.

pgeorge: it stitches multiple pics together

Sheila: We can hear you CAthy Jo!

pgeorge: great topic!!

joycevalenza: sorry, we lost power and cable!

Cathy E: Cathy E- hello all

pgeorge: welcome Cathy and Joyce! Great to hear from both of you!!

Sheila: Morning all!

CathyJo: agreed

CathyJo: librarian is not going away

connect2jamie: In TX librarians must be teachers first, have 3 yrs classroom experience and a Master's in Library Science. Our certication is called a Learning Resources Endorsement.

connect2jamie: I like the term teacher-librarian.

CathyJo: SC required a teaching degree first

connect2jamie: We do not have computer tchrs at the elementary level.

Rebecca Buckhoff: I am an elementary teacher working on my master's in instructional media.  CA does not require a bachelors degree for a school librarian.

CathyJo: it varies from district to district re tech teacher

connect2jamie: Wow! Not even a bachelor's degree?

Cathy E: I am called a technology facilitator -

Sheila: I know of one district that went from no tech teachers to librarians and now they have switched back, tech teacher/librarian. Staffing issues. Now they have to do all for one person.

Rebecca Buckhoff: I know the librarian at my school is working on her bachelors right now.

Cathy E: There is a tech facilitator at each of our schools - but the job VARIES a lot between schools

connect2jamie: Great point @CathyJo! I started a master's degree in edtech and gave it up b/c I found that my mindset is very library-centric. I just love edtech on top of htat!

connect2jamie: that

pgeorge: do you find teachers view you differently based on your title? I love the title Teacher Librarian.

CathyJo: Joyce!! HOOK ME UP!!

Rebecca Buckhoff: My students increased the amount they were reading dramatically when I start a book chat on Edmodo.

connect2jamie: @pgeorge YES! When I first came to my school, I frequently got the question, "You have to have a degree to be a librarian? You have taught before?"  We don't get that ? as much anymore.

pgeorge: Great way to do it Rebecca!

Cathy E: What was the grade level of kids reading those books

pgeorge: Thanks Jamie

Rebecca Buckhoff: I teach a 4/5 combo

Lisa Parisi: Rebecca, I have book groups on Edmodo too.  Would love to have you join my fourth graders.

MariaK: Cathy Jo and Joyce - links to your library sites, please.

Sheila: Good point Cathy Jo! Many facets.

joycevalenza: http://springfieldlibrary.wikispaces.com

connect2jamie: You are right @Lisa. There is a huge push in many districts, including mine, that values nonfiction reading and research, and de-values fiction literature.

MariaK: thanx

connect2jamie: I find that I have to kind of help teachers "sneak" literature in.

Cathy E: That is a perfect solution

Cathy E: I'm going to school tomorrow and suggest that

Lisa Parisi: Wow, Jamie.  That's sad.

joycevalenza: What a beautiful partnership!

pgeorge: excellent advice!!

joycevalenza: I think that's true everywhere

Cathy E: So I have another question...were kids allowed to come in anytime druing the day to check in/out books?  Who checked them in?

joycevalenza: eeek!

joycevalenza: 4th grade is the best time to grab young readers!!!!

connect2jamie: Yes. Lots of excerpts being read & studied at elem level, but no whole works in the curriculum. In fact, on each wk's ELA curriculum, it states something about no novel studies are in the curriculum.

Rebecca Buckhoff: Our librarian reads to the kids, teaches library skills and incorporates comprehension activities.  Not much research in the library.

connect2jamie: In library time, I try try TRY to do activities that promote leisure reading, but there is more and more research/digital citzenship curriculum prescribed for us, and the literature piece is

Rebecca Buckhoff: I emphasize teaching internet research skills and incorporate that with book research.

connect2jamie: definitely in danger of being lost. '

Cathy E: @Rebecca that is the way it is at my school- but there is a full time assistant.

CathyJo: I know several teacher librarians/media specialist who have never spent  adya in the classroom who are successful

Sheila: I love our librarian. She knows most people's tastes in books. She also works in unit development with teams and individuals. She is also our whole school event planner, ie one book, one school, etc.

CathyJo: good idea!!

connect2jamie: @CathyJo Yes I do too, b/c some states do not requre it. I have a friend from PA that is in that boat.

Cathy E: A good teacher is a teacher no matter the title

joycevalenza: This makes me so sad!

Cathy E: @ Shelia does she teach scheduled classes so the teachers can hame planning?

connect2jamie: @MariaK that is a realistic worry, I think.

Sheila: No scheduled classes but she will co-teach.

Rebecca Buckhoff: Ours isn't prep.  We go for an hour every other week.  It varies at every school.  The library is also open during recess every day if kids finish their books.

connect2jamie: Yes! Reading good literature helps develop writers! That is why it makes no sense to de-value it!

connect2jamie: Standardized tests is what happened, imo.

CathyJo: probably @Jamie

CathyJo: another battle!!!

connect2jamie: I think in many cases, it is the tchr-librarian that is trying to keep the literature and the storytelling IN children's lives!

connect2jamie: Levelled books are the bane of my existence!

CathyJo: i have refused to leel books in any library Ive worked in

CathyJo: lveleing is an invasion of privacy

Rebecca Buckhoff: Leveled books make kids choose books based on their level rather than their interest.

connect2jamie: A levelled library is an obscene perversion of a school library program.

CathyJo: why cant upper grade kids check out beloved books even tho wrong level?

Lisa Parisi: They can Cathy but they have been brainwashed not to.

Rebecca Buckhoff: Interest based reading makes kids BETTER readers.

Sheila: Does leveling take the place of staff who could do this with children individually.

CathyJo: leveling is an instructional tool not a selection tool

CathyJo: if a class is studying an authors craft, who cares the leel?

CathyJo: level

connect2jamie: I fight that all the time, @CathyJo--teachers are soooo pressured to think only about reading levels, and I am always pushing to let kids have at least SOME books that they choose--regardless of level

connect2jamie: @CathyJo. I'm going to write that down and use it! Levelling is an instructional tool and not a selection tool. Students should have the opportunity to select what they want to read.

connect2jamie: Students obviously also need to have instructionally appropriate choices too. I try to provide an opportunity for kids to have both.

CathyJo: Picture books have there place in the high school too

connect2jamie: I used picture books all the time--a million years ago, when I was a middle school math teacher!

connect2jamie: Tumblebooks is the most popular e-book type resource with my students. PebbleGo is a nonfiction primary level multimedia resource that is very popular too.

CathyJo: why an e picture book for the librarian? Use a doc camera

Rebecca Buckhoff: My daughter is a reluctant reader, but I get her to read every night when she uses my kindle.

CathyJo: i did use even a camera on a tripod to show the pics on the screen bigscreen styl

CathyJo: style

CathyJo: swweeeeeettt

CathyJo: our high school kids REALLY respond tp book trialers

CathyJo: trailees

connect2jamie: Yes our students love to watch and create book trailers and audio book reviews too. Time is a factor though. I work w them to create them before/after school, but it's not optimal.

Sheila: How do you envision school libraries in 10 years? Especially with technology changes.

Sheila: How much will the services change?

CathyJo: you will always need the librarian even ten years from now because we are the ones that bring our teachers to where the kids are!!

Cathy E: North Carolina does a great job of having all those resources listed in one place for us

CathyJo: amen

Sheila: In our discussion, we envisioned public libraries as open public spaces as we move towards resources on our own devices.

Rebecca Buckhoff: downloading emescatalog app right now.

Lisa Parisi: http://www.accessmylibrary.com/

Rebecca Buckhoff: ok that was not he right thing to download.  ignore last post.

CathyJo: we serve not only students, but admin, faculty, staff, and even parents who have inforamtion needs or need to learn new things

CathyJo: my teachers constantly tell me how much they personally learned just by being a bystander in a class Im conducting for kids

CathyJo: In our distirct we do goals based education for recertification, making teachers choose PD for recert.  My teachers have demanded that i offer courses on various topics for gbe.

CathyJo: SO i am doing a one tool at a time series this year

CathyJo: i throw out the topic--they show up

CathyJo: many of these have immediate application in a classroom

CathyJo: it generates significantly more collaboration, as teachers want to implement, but with hep.

Cathy E: @CathyJo - my teachers are required to come to the lab with their kids when I'm teaching.  That way everybody is in the loop.

CathyJo: great session!!

CathyJo: Lisa that is so sad.

CathyJo: Does she not promote the state book awards in the least??

CathyJo: our library has 100-150 kids each morning

CathyJo: before school

CathyJo: we also have a full house (half the mornign crew) during lunches.

CathyJo: of course u should know we have 2500+ kids

Rebecca Buckhoff: I spent large amounts of my free time as a child in the public library.

Sheila: We have a piano in the library ( middle school), a recording "studio", comfy chairs. We even hatch chicks there. More than books!

CathyJo: Hi MAria!!

CathyJo: :)

connect2jamie: yes--thanks so much for hosting this topic this week!

CathyJo: Gotta go everyone--great as always

Cathy E: great job - I learned so much!

connect2jamie: Thanks CathyJo and Joyce!

Lisa Parisi: http://ettconversations.blogspot.com/

Lisa Parisi: Bye everyone!

connect2jamie: Have a great week, everyone!

Rebecca Buckhoff: Bye!

pgeorge: This has been a great conversation! Thanks to all of you!

This week Joyce Valenza and CathyJo Nelson joined us for a conversation about libraries and the new role of the librarian.

Teachers Teaching Teachers #173 - EBSCO, BrainyFlix, Online Research, and More! - 10.21.09

Ron Burns from EBSCO joined us on this podcast as we continued the conversation about using databases for research, how to share research using Diigo and how to incorporate the EBSCO resources into these goals! Being big EBSCO fans, we always welcome any chance to learn more about upcoming changes and how to better use EBSCO.

We are happy that Joyce Valenza joined us in the chat room, since she started us on this question of how to use a social bookmarking site like Diigo with a library database like EBSCO.

Also joining us on this podcast was Jack Yu who creates his own brand of meaningful fun at

BrainyFlix

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Ron Burns from EBSCO joined us on this podcast as we continued the conversation about using databases for research, how to share research using Diigo and how to incorporate the EBSCO resources into these goals! Being big EBSCO fans, we always welcome any chance to learn more about upcoming changes and how to better use EBSCO.

We are happy that Joyce Valenza joined us in the chat room, since she started us on this question of how to use a social bookmarking site like Diigo with a library database like EBSCO. (Find out what she found noisome!)

Also joining us on this podcast was Jack Yu who creates his own brand of meaningful fun at BrainyFlix.

 

Click Read more to see a transcript of a chat that was happening during the webcast.

 

Teachers Teaching Teachers #166 - 09.02.09 - Minding the gap between library databases and social bookmarking - EBSCO and diigo

For this podcast, Susan Ettenheim invited Ron Burns, Director of Software Product Management at EBSCO to answer the question of whether or not bookmarking and databases go together. He begins his conversation by pointing out that Diigo is part of their "Bookmark" bar on the EBSCOhost interface, but many more issues arise as Susan is joined by five amazing teachers, tech integrators and media specialists/librarians: Alice Barr, Vicki Davis, Madeline Brownstone, Suzanne Hamilton and Carolyn Stanley

Susan Ettenheim begins this podcast by wondering if bookmarking and databases can go together. This question came from a recent webcast (TTT 165) when Joyce Valenza started an inquiry into a division she is beginning to see in her school. She has noticed that those students who have been introduced to social bookmarking in delicious and diigo are becoming less likely to use the library databases.

Like many of us, these students hesitate to use a source for their research that they are not able to comment on and get responses from members of their personal learning networks. Part of the value or a source comes from the on-line conversations that get attached to that source, and bookmarking sources found in a library or specialized database seems to be impossible. Links are not persistent and the resources remain behind a password. We agree with Joyce that we want students to be able to do both: use the rich material in library databases and learn how much knowledge comes from bookmarking in social networks.

(Joyce Valenza, by the way, will be on The Future of Education with Frandes Jacobson Harris and Howard Rheingold and hour before our show this Wednesday, September 30. Tune in to that show, then join us at EdTechTalk at 9:00pm Eastern / 6:00pm Pacific USA / World Times. Our guests will be Troy Hicks, author of the new Heinemann title, The Digital Writing Workshop, and four teachers as they discuss how they foster student choice and inquiry in their writing classrooms.)

For this podcast, Susan Ettenheim invited Ron Burns, Director of Software Product Management at EBSCO to answer the question of whether or not bookmarking and databases go together. He begins his conversation by pointing out that Diigo is part of their "Bookmark" bar on the EBSCOhost interface, but many more issues arise as Susan is joined by five amazing teachers, tech integrators and media specialists/librarians: Alice Barr, Vicki Davis, Madeline Brownstone, Suzanne Hamilton and Carolyn Stanley

Here are few of the specialized/state databases that are discussed on this podcast:

Please stay tuned to Teachers Teaching Teachers. On TTT 169 (webcast on 09.23.09, and to be uploaded soon) Joyce Valenza and Chief Diigo Ambassador, Maggie Tsai joined us to further the dialogue. More to come!

Click Read more to see more notes from Ron Burns and a transcript of a chat that was happening during the webcast.

Teachers Teaching Teachers #165 - 08.26.09 - Meet Lisa Dick and George Haines: Talking about research and diigo

On this episode of Teachers Teaching Teachers, we had a conversation about Diigo and annotations with Lisa Dick, Computer Education a teacher Northern Louisiana @tidertechie. I had put out a call for teachers who use Diigo with their students, and Lisa answered that call.

We also talked with George Haines @oline73. George teaches 7th Graders out on Long Island. One of his sites, by the way is a Google Site, so there’s more to talk about there, since I’ve been building a prototype of what I want students to do. Anyway… George and I connected on Twitter because I was wondering about how to keep my up-coming curriculum focused on self-initiated, self-interested, self-sustaining inquiries.

On this episode of Teachers Teaching Teachers, we had a conversation about Diigo and annotations with Lisa Dick, Computer Education a teacher Northern Louisiana @tidertechie. I had put out a call for teachers who use Diigo with their students, and Lisa answered that call.

We also talked with George Haines @oline73. George teaches 7th Graders out on Long Island. One of his sites, by the way is a Google Site, so there’s more to talk about there, since I’ve been building a prototype of what I want students to do. Anyway… George and I connected on Twitter because I was wondering about how to keep my up-coming curriculum focused on self-initiated, self-interested, self-sustaining inquiries.

At Youth Voices, we do a lot of work around this question. We’ve borrowed James A. Beane’s beginning point in his Curriculum Integration work. It’s from Beane that we got the idea to have students write “10 self and 10 world questions“  There’s been a lot of — “Well, maybe we need to do this or that instead.” — And I’m open to some of this, but I still find this simple beginning place to be incredibly powerful.

Getting back to George Haines, he had some ideas that he said were too long to put into 140 characters, ideas about how to kick off self-directed projects. So we invited him onto TTT.

In short, we talked about research, annotating resources, sharing them in diigo, and we talked about why we do this self-motivated, “I-search” in the first place… and we’ll be meeting two new teachers. That’s the most wonderful part of this story. I had never met Lisa Dick or George Hines or the others that joined us on this webcast. We hope you enjoy meeting them too.

 

Click Read more to see a transcript of a chat that was happening during the webcast.

 

Chat Log from TTT77

2007-10-31 20:48:07 [Message] SusanEttenheim -> EdTechTalk: hi lee hi peggy

2007-10-31 20:48:41 [Message] cheryloakes -> EdTechTalk: Evening!

2007-10-31 20:48:57 [Message] cheryloakes -> EdTechTalk: I wanted a front row seat.

2007-10-31 20:49:11 [Message] SusanEttenheim -> EdTechTalk: hhi cheryl

2007-10-31 20:49:12 [Message] Lee Baber -> EdTechTalk: Hello!

2007-10-31 20:49:26 [Message] Lee Baber -> EdTechTalk: Thanks for coming Cheryl! Hello Peggy

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