15:26:19  Durff  : hi patrick
 15:26:28  pjhiggins  : Hi Lisa.
 15:26:39  Durff  : adding links to the chatroom works best two ways:
 15:26:46  pjhiggins  : Who are you here for?
 15:26:49  Durff  : 1.drag from a word
 15:26:53  Durff  : for you
 15:26:56  Durff  : silly
 15:26:57  pjhiggins  : yippee.
 15:27:11  Durff  : 2. type something before the link
 15:27:29  pjhiggins  : Will keep that in mind.
 15:27:37  Durff  : like this http://chalkdust101.wordpress.com/ 
 15:27:46  Durff  : which is your blog
 15:28:18  Durff  : so where is kimmi?
 15:28:36  pjhiggins  : First one: http://www.ted.com/index.php/speakers/james_howard_kunstler.html
 15:28:40  pjhiggins  : Don't know.
 15:28:49  pjhiggins  : I have to call in.
 15:29:45  Durff  : our streamer is here
 15:29:52  Durff  : he is rebooting
 15:30:08  Durff  : part of the sequence for webcasting
 15:30:30  Durff  : i have these instructions: call 1(712)4217492, then 796208 and #.  From there you can ask questions, share thoughts, or just listen. 
 15:30:45  Durff  : sound right to you?
 15:31:26  Durff  : i'll wait for kimmi and jose and you to get audio and then twitter this
 15:31:35  pjhiggins  : Sounds good.
 15:32:30  Durff  : if you have skype on  mute all sounds now
 15:32:33  JoseRodriguez  : Hi
 15:32:36  Durff  : hi jose
 15:32:45  Durff  : where is kimmi?
 15:32:55  JoseRodriguez  : We are using the audio from the conference call
 15:32:57  pjhiggins  : on the phone with him now.
 15:33:08  Durff  : gr8
 15:33:33  Durff  : say something
 15:33:39  Durff  : hear jose
 15:33:44  Durff  : singing
 15:33:55  pjhiggins  : Jose is singing?
 15:34:00  Durff  : jose skype sounds
 15:34:04  Durff  : mute them
 15:34:43  Durff  : the webcast patrick begins when jose is in the call 
 15:34:52  Durff  : he is joining 
 15:36:05  Durff  : jose call 1(712)4217492, then 796208 and #.  From there you can ask questions, share thoughts, or just listen. 
 15:36:51  Durff  : yes!
 15:37:00  Durff  : the eagle has landed
 15:38:14  pjhiggins  : I can hear Jose.
 15:38:25  Durff  : yes
 15:38:32  Durff  : streaming is great
 15:40:34  JoseRodriguez  : So sound is ok?
 15:41:10  Durff  : yes
 15:41:20  Durff  : for a call
 15:41:48  Durff  : i ping'ed 3 networks
 15:42:51  JoseRodriguez  : Thanks... Blooms Taxonomy is still pretty big
 15:42:56  Durff  : hi cathy
 15:43:12  JoseRodriguez  : I keep a flip chart handy when I am teaching
 15:43:18  JoseRodriguez  : Especially the questioning
 15:43:37  JoseRodriguez  : Hi Cathy
 15:43:48  Cathy E  : are you streaming?
 15:43:59  Durff  : on a
 15:43:59  JoseRodriguez  : yes.
 15:44:04  Durff  : ett a
 15:44:38  Durff  : hi gisele
 15:44:47  JoseRodriguez  : I put up the volume just a little bit
 15:44:52  Durff  : sound on ETT A
 15:44:55  JoseRodriguez  : Hi gisele
 15:45:06  Durff  : click the black icon
 15:45:15  gisele1  : Hi
 15:45:26  Durff  : have sound gisele?
 15:45:35  JoseRodriguez  : I particpated in an intern program paid by my district. I had a class and was an teacher in training.
 15:46:07  Durff  : like mentoring?
 15:46:12  JoseRodriguez  : We met once a week for a few hours and one saturday a month..
 15:46:17  gisele1  : no sound
 15:46:30  JoseRodriguez  : We got our full credential
 15:46:43  Durff  : click the black icon under ETT A
 15:46:47  JoseRodriguez  : Sound should be on listen icon on ETT A
 15:47:00  Durff  : opens the audio program on your computer
 15:47:19  JoseRodriguez  : or on windows you can click on Windows Media Player
 15:48:12  Cathy E  : I had to switch to itunes to get audio via FireFox
 15:48:15  JoseRodriguez  : We have tech lead teachers in each school
 15:48:53  JoseRodriguez  : and a district tech coaches
 15:49:38  JoseRodriguez  : Robert Manzano is excellent
 15:49:52  JoseRodriguez  : Especially on student engagement. 
 15:50:57  Durff  : Patrick's blog http://chalkdust101.wordpress.com/  
 15:51:35  Durff  : if you have questions for Patrick, please type them here
 15:51:46  Durff  : welcome back
 15:52:37  gisele1  : tried to click on link to blog and managed to get booted ... sorry
 15:52:50  Durff  : it happens a lot
 15:53:01  Durff  : seems worse recently
 15:53:41  Cathy E  : motivation is key technology can be the ticket
 15:53:57  gisele1  : Whose blog was I attempting to go to?  (Patrick?)  My link vanished when I got booted.
 15:54:18  JoseRodriguez  : Even working in a general ed environment there are so many individual needs
 15:54:32  Durff  : Patrick's blog http://chalkdust101.wordpress.com/   
 15:54:40  Durff  : hi mindlei
 15:54:44  JoseRodriguez  : In my area a lot of it is second language learning
 15:54:49  Durff  : sound is on ETT A
 15:54:49  pjhiggins  : Agree.  But what does differetiation look like?
 15:54:56  mindelei  : Hello Durff.
 15:55:07  Durff  : click on blck icon
 15:55:14  Durff  : opens audio player
 15:55:29  JoseRodriguez  : Differentiation:  preteach and reteach
 15:55:43  JoseRodriguez  : and present in different modalities
 15:56:11  JoseRodriguez  : I think of scaffolding and taking a student from their current level to the next.
 15:56:24  Durff  : Many new teachers complain they are not being prepared to do any of these things of which Patrick speaks. What is his comment?
 15:56:26  JoseRodriguez  : Even if they are significantly behind grade level expectations
 15:56:56  mindelei  : I'm currently preservice.  I start methods this fall.
 15:57:06  Durff  : cool!
 15:57:15  Durff  : Do you feel prepared?
 15:57:15  JoseRodriguez  : I think preservice is like building a toolkit that you can comeback to over and over again
 15:57:35  Durff  : Have you learned solid pedagogy?
 15:57:35  JoseRodriguez  : after 12 I am almost there. :)
 15:57:37  mindelei  : Although I may see a difference in the next year, I do not feel prepared so far.
 15:57:40  gisele1  : Our lateral entry teachers have even more difficulty.
 15:57:53  JoseRodriguez  : lateral entry?
 15:57:59  Durff  : what could be done to better prepare you?
 15:58:10  Durff  : hi skipz
 15:58:20  mindelei  : I feel there is a difference between what my profs say and what they exhibit in their own teaching.
 15:58:21  Durff  : sound on ETT A\
 15:58:23  gisele1  : a person with a degree (noneducation) who takes a teaching job and works on certification simultaneously
 15:58:34  Durff  : click on the black icon
 15:58:44  Durff  : hi scott
 15:58:45  scottmerrick  : hey ya'llzies
 15:58:52  pjhiggins  : http:spartanti.21classes.com
 15:58:53  Durff  : sound on ETT A
 15:59:00  scottmerrick  : got sound :)
 15:59:04  JoseRodriguez  : @gisele that makes sense
 15:59:10  JoseRodriguez  : yes  on ETT A
 15:59:21  gisele1  : mindelei, that's a common problem in education (coursework, conferences, staff development, etc.)
 15:59:26  mindelei  : My profs don't seem to see an importance in 21st century skills for teachers.  
 15:59:48  mindelei  : I agree...I think teacher preparation needs to grow and change.
 15:59:49  Durff  : do you?
 16:00:09  JoseRodriguez  : @mindelei sometimes it's an uphill struggle but I do see systemic change.
 16:00:13  Durff  : you get the grade you need and then you move on
 16:00:15  mindelei  : I think there is  how can we teach those skills if we're not competant in them?
 16:00:31  Durff  : so how could you learn them?
 16:00:37  JoseRodriguez  : My wife went back to school and she is just starting college.. Her professors are pretty tech savvy
 16:00:39  Durff  : outside of school
 16:01:00  scottmerrick  : lol is anybody really competent? aside fro Durff and Wes of course, David, Will...well, okay, some ppl are :)
 16:01:05  Durff  : patrick showed this link http://spartanti.21classes.com/
 16:01:18  Durff  : funny scott
 16:01:31  Durff  : the point is i am NOT competent
 16:01:35  JoseRodriguez  : That's why being part of ETT is so great.  It's my own PD and I can take it back to my students
 16:01:35  mindelei  : We are a laptop university here at NMU (I am also a nontraditional student), but many profs don't embrace the technology.  You see a lot of ppt presentations and overheads.
 16:01:39  Durff  : welcome back
 16:02:28  JoseRodriguez  : Evengthough PPT still rule I do see use of moodles and blended classes with online and F2F work
 16:02:35  scottmerrick  : nobody is, i guess, hence we can't really assess "mastery" ... only expexperimental, adoptive, inclinations and flexible learning approaches, huh
 16:02:42  Cathy E  : What are the best tools?  
 16:02:53  JoseRodriguez  : @scott I agree... 
 16:03:05  Durff  : but i think mindi means knowing how to use 
 16:03:18  mindelei  : I would like to see profs experimenting w/ tech too.  
 16:03:19  scottmerrick  : 'spose we could establish a working rubrik for assessing "receptiveness and flexibility with new techs"
 16:03:19  Durff  : not a certain competancy level
 16:03:26  JoseRodriguez  : We can only assess if teachers are lifelong learners
 16:03:42  Durff  : it may not happen for you until masters
 16:03:57  Durff  : you're doing student teaching?
 16:03:58  JoseRodriguez  : It can be built in early on...
 16:04:07  Durff  : last semester?
 16:04:10  mindelei  : I'm not saying that every teacher needs to be a master of tech, but at least be comfortable to use & experiment with it.
 16:04:30  scottmerrick  : a very astute point about the constant struggle
 16:04:31  Durff  : i comfortable enough to break it
 16:04:43  mindelei  : ;) @ Durff
 16:04:46  Durff  : and i do  often
 16:05:13  gisele1  : I think even reluctant teachers typically become hooked on using tech if it's at their fingertips and they feel supported
 16:05:22  Durff  : yes
 16:05:25  gisele1  : that's been the experience at our school
 16:05:39  mindelei  : I think it's funny, because I am not a "techie" but I seem to be ahead of the curve on some of the web2.0 items  even just the knowledge of and discussion of it.
 16:05:40  Durff  : i try to find a use for each person
 16:05:58  scottmerrick  : lost audio
 16:06:03  Durff  : me too
 16:06:04  gisele1  : even folks that couldn't open attachments are now exploring podcasting after having a data projector and laptop for a year
 16:06:06  mindelei  : me too
 16:06:10  gisele1  : lost audio too
 16:06:16  Durff  : they may have gone thru a tunnel
 16:06:17  mindelei  : it's back
 16:06:22  Durff  : back
 16:06:23  scottmerrick  : if i could just share how much frickin' FUN it is to learn from all of you on a daily basis...
 16:06:30  Durff  : tunnels do that
 16:06:34  JoseRodriguez  : Teachers new and experienced respond positively to ongoingPD and support.
 16:06:34  JoseRodriguez  : It's a bit low
 16:06:42  scottmerrick  : something about a couch?
 16:06:45  JoseRodriguez  : It's  a bit low on Patrick's side
 16:06:52  Durff  : it's gone
 16:07:28  Durff  : jose is doing his utmost
 16:07:33  mindelei  : One of the things that surprises me is that few of my profs have blogs or websites of their own.  I'm not sure that they even read other blogs (journals seem to be the only important location of solid info).
 16:07:39  scottmerrick  : well, as i was saying, that's why i try to offer week long sessions to teachers new to 2.0 tech, TIME to noodle and seek and explore
 16:08:11  JoseRodriguez  : one seck While I get call back on.
 16:08:17  pjhiggins  : Sionce we lost the stream, does anyone have any questions for us?
 16:08:18  scottmerrick  : so maybe the model in preservice is a week long "unit"
 16:08:21  mindelei  : I think it's great that new & old teachers are becoming more interested in tech.  But, I think that teacher training programs need to be solid there.
 16:08:24  Durff  : we are waiting patiently
 16:08:58  mindelei  : @scottmerrick  Why just 1 week?  Why not throughout?
 16:09:08  Durff  : mindi have you explored http://k12onlineconference.org/ ?
 16:09:14  scottmerrick  : as my pal Cathy in Arkansas says, there need to be an 'easy button'
 16:09:23  Durff  : scroll down to see the last two years
 16:09:32  scottmerrick  : a week of nothing but, chance to really explore
 16:09:55  Durff  : patience
 16:10:01  mindelei  : @Durff I have heard of that site, but will admit that I have not really explored.  
 16:10:06  Durff  : i hate those phones too
 16:10:14  Durff  : explore
 16:10:24  Durff  : there is a wealth of learning
 16:10:29  scottmerrick  : but in lieu (sp) of that, deeper exploration of one or two techs throughout a semester is also a good thingie
 16:10:42  Durff  : thingie?
 16:11:10  scottmerrick  : slip of the typers...thing
 16:11:21  Durff  : :)
 16:11:29  scottmerrick  : that's a word i type like that, like "New Yourk" lol
 16:12:03  Durff  : the eagle has landed
 16:12:04  mindelei  : There is a one semester 1 credit Technology course in my class  but the profs that teach it don't seem to be active in an online community.
 16:12:13  scottmerrick  : okay, ya'll the audio's driving me crazy and i'm going to go take a midday summer nap
 16:12:14  Durff  : earth we have contact
 16:12:14  JoseRodriguez  : ok we are back
 16:12:20  scottmerrick  : lol @Durff
 16:12:24  scottmerrick  : byeeeee
 16:12:36  Durff  : lol 
 16:12:57  JoseRodriguez  : audio should be good now.. sorry..
 16:13:04  Durff  : good now
 16:13:06  Cathy E  : yes, they don't want to give up control
 16:13:21  mindelei  : That makes sense  the perpetuation.
 16:13:30  Durff  : opensource learning
 16:13:40  Durff  : who said that?
 16:13:48  JoseRodriguez  : Patrick?
 16:13:56  Durff  : no
 16:13:57  Cathy E  : they think they are not doing their job if they are not standing in front of the room "teaching"
 16:14:05  Durff  : it was cheryloakes
 16:14:25  Durff  : last summer during webcastacademy
 16:14:31  JoseRodriguez  : oh yeah OpenSource Learning right... It made me famous :)
 16:14:49  Durff  : yeah, cough, right
 16:15:32  Durff  : Patrick referenced http://www.ted.com/
 16:15:34  JoseRodriguez  : She put in in her k12Online presentation. She talked about webcastacademy and our work last summer
 16:15:51  mindelei  : I really think that we need to see ourselves in a role similar to a tour guide  not an expert but knowledgeable.  
 16:15:52  JoseRodriguez  : Are these the TED talks or something else?
 16:15:53  Durff  : James Howard Kunzler
 16:16:21  pjhiggins  : http://www.ted.com/index.php/speakers/james_howard_kunstler.html
 16:16:27  JoseRodriguez  : Yep Ted Talks are so Coooooooooool
 16:16:44  Durff  : have you seen RSA?
 16:16:55  mindelei  : Would that be a shift in perception?
 16:16:56  JoseRodriguez  : RSA is?
 16:17:27  Durff  : similar conference
 16:17:41  Durff  : weblogged had it
 16:17:53  Durff  : and PdF too
 16:18:07  Durff  : the creativity guy was on there
 16:18:12  Durff  : Ken ?????
 16:18:22  JoseRodriguez  : Sir Ken 
 16:18:31  Durff  : yes
 16:18:50  Durff  : think about your thinking
 16:18:55  Cathy E  : And as long as there is a bubble sheet test at the end of the year  inventive????
 16:18:56  mindelei  : Metacognition  great word.  
 16:18:56  Durff  : metacognition
 16:19:09  JoseRodriguez  : Sir Ken Robinson
 16:19:14  Durff  : it is researchbased
 16:19:23  mindelei  : Thanks guys  have to run!  :)
 16:19:25  JoseRodriguez  : How about twitter... 
 16:19:34  mindelei  : Maybe plurk?
 16:19:34  JoseRodriguez  : Thanks you.  bye
 16:19:39  Durff  : metacognitive strategies improve comprehension
 16:19:41  mindelei  : Bye.  :)
 16:19:50  Durff  : bye mindi!
 16:19:59  Durff  : ooo missed her
 16:20:37  JoseRodriguez  : Patrick is it ok to publish audio from today here on ETT?
 16:20:48  Durff  : any questions for patrick?
 16:21:09  Durff  : and he will do a great job
 16:21:44  JoseRodriguez  : What we need is somehow keep a professional eportfolio....
 16:21:50  Durff  : is it http://teacherleaders.typepad.com/the_tempered_radical/
 16:22:18  Durff  : patrick is that the link?
 16:22:38  JoseRodriguez  : eportfolio is a mashup of our web presense.  
 16:22:56  Durff  : hi Erica
 16:23:03  JoseRodriguez  : Steven you are going to have a great school year... 
 16:23:05  Durff  : sound is on ETT A
 16:23:10  EricaLH  : Hello
 16:23:15  Durff  :  click on the black icon
 16:23:34  JoseRodriguez  : Cool Think Different. 
 16:23:46  gisele1  : 2 year old needs Mommy ...  have a pleasant afternoon everyone ... bye
 16:23:49  Durff  : think outside the box
 16:23:54  JoseRodriguez  : It is about the Audience I agree.
 16:24:12  pjhiggins  : http://teacherleaders.typepad.com/the_tempered_radical/2008/02/waitingtobet.html
 16:24:25  Durff  : have you seen Two Million Minutes?
 16:24:56  EricaLH  : just the trailer
 16:25:00  JoseRodriguez  : Content Management perhaps building modules in moodle or even wikis
 16:25:33  JoseRodriguez  : I am working on a wiki this summer where students are going to aggretate their knowledge about the Summer Olympics
 16:25:40  Durff  : connectingcommunicatingcollaborating
 16:25:40  JoseRodriguez  : Go Elementary Folk
 16:25:55  Durff  : those are the essential skills
 16:26:08  JoseRodriguez  : The 3 Big C's Are they your's Durff?
 16:26:10  Durff  : all k12 must be adept at those skills
 16:26:43  Durff  : i am not the exclusive owner of any content
 16:26:45  JoseRodriguez  : We commented on Steven's Storm VT it was great.
 16:26:57  pjhiggins  : http://www.thefacultyroom.org/?p=170
 16:26:58  Durff  : Storm?
 16:27:06  Durff  : there was a storm?
 16:27:26  JoseRodriguez  : It exposed my students to weather patterns in the midwest.. I'll get the link
 16:27:51  Durff  : those are cute generalisations but aren't we beyond those terms?
 16:28:30  Durff  : Clay's blog http://beyondschool.org/
 16:28:51  JoseRodriguez  : There must be a balance between assignments and free use of tools.. I like to focus on the communication piece
 16:29:29  Durff  : there must always be an objective
 16:29:30  JoseRodriguez  : google sketchup and scratch
 16:29:44  Durff  : whether it is evident to others or not
 16:29:51  EricaLH  : do you think google's new lively can compete with secondlife?
 16:30:00  Durff  : I don't
 16:30:02  JoseRodriguez  : It's awesome how Steven can keep up a conversation and still conentrate on the road
 16:30:16  Durff  : how many SL users on last login?
 16:30:30  Durff  : scott left but he would be the one to ask
 16:30:46  EricaLH  : sorry I got in so late, Patrick, just got your email
 16:30:57  Durff  : perfect  outtro
 16:31:02  Durff  : he's hired
 16:31:11  pjhiggins  : Thanks everyone
 16:31:32  Durff  : any qts for post show?
 16:31:46  EricaLH  : great job Patrick!
 16:31:59  Durff  : clap clap
 16:32:00  pjhiggins  : thx. erica
 16:32:09  JoseRodriguez  : anyone available a post show?
 16:32:14  pjhiggins  : Sorry about my delay on the links.
 16:32:18  Cathy E  : I'm impressed, Jose
 16:32:20  Durff  : there is a 30 second delay patrick
 16:32:28  pjhiggins  : Thanks Jose.
 16:32:37  Durff  : so you say it and we here it a bit later
 16:32:54  pjhiggins  : @durff: OK/
 16:33:05  Durff  : thank you Cathy!
 16:33:07  JoseRodriguez  : Ok stream is off
 16:33:26  Durff  : bye you all! let's do this again soon
 16:33:31  Cathy E  : see y
 16:33:33  JoseRodriguez  : Patrick can I publish this audio on ETT?
 16:33:34  Cathy E  : ya
 16:33:51  pjhiggins  : Same here!  go ahead Jose, that would be great.
 16:33:58  JoseRodriguez  : Thanks 
 16:34:01  pjhiggins  : Have a great weekend everyone!
 16:34:05  Durff  : seeya patrick
 16:34:07  JoseRodriguez  : Createve Commons 3.0
 16:34:14  pjhiggins  : I'll look for it.
 16:34:15  JoseRodriguez  : bye