- Length: 68:21 minutes (31.29 MB)
- Format: MP3 Mono 44kHz 64Kbps (CBR)
November 2, 2011
Participants; Tim Owens , carol yeager , Jim Stauffer , Stephen Downes , Giulia Forsythe , Jeff Lebow 
Topics: Getting to know Tim , Where is the change  in Change 11 ?, Interactivity in MOOC's, The Magic of DS106 , Interactive Presentation options, How best to tune in to blog comments, the Canvas  alternative, and plans for a Wowza date
carolyeager: Greetings Jeff
scottlo: okay if I patch the audio through to ds106radio?
Stephen Downes: hola
scottlo: Hey Stephen
Downes: hi again
wayupnorth: Hello Stephen
carolyeager: Hello Stephen ... hope you are fit and fiddle again
Markuos: Markuos: made it Jeff
Downes: yeah... but it turns out the much vaunted insurance doesn't cover the cost of my stolen cameras
carolyeager: Drat .. not even extended home insurance?
Downes: and.,.. actually, I still have the nasty cold I caught in NYC
Downes: Worst. Trip. Ever.
JL: http://bit.ly/sNE0zP 
JL: Hangout at: http://bit.ly/sNE0zP 
carolyeager: @Jim .. glad to see the fights were successful :-)
carolyeager: oops flights
JL: http://dtlttoday.com 
wayupnorth: yes, I made it to Yellowknife - hope I have a better trip than @Downes
wayupnorth: gotta run for a headset
carolyeager: And what a couch!
scottlo: UMW was recently mentioned in relation to campus wide WP blogging, can Tim talk to that?
Stephen Downes: Looks like the sound problems my office computer has with Google Hangout still persist
JL: Plan B computer availabie? Very much hope you can join in.
carolyeager: Love the energy happening ...
wayupnorth: I saw the recording of the session with Stephen & George and it was great
Stephen Downes: bleah... Hangout doesn't detect the iSight cameraon my MacBook
carolyeager: Variety of offerings is a good thing!
wayupnorth: exciting to see change in the making
carolyeager: Hmmm, Stephen .. maybe it jas caught your physical malady?
Stephen Downes: yeah
wayupnorth: I think we ought to fundraise and get Stephen a netbook :-)
Stephen Downes: well it's ridiculous
Stephen Downes: my home computer does all this stuff just fine
scottlo: is video conference a practical communicaton model/mode for such a large number of participants
carolyeager: Hoe is where the heart is ... and a broader functioning computer
Stephen Downes: No backstory on my side..
Stephen Downes: "wants to own everything he's doing??????"
Stephen Downes: b^%$^%&^
Stephen Downes: He *still* hasn't recognized that Google Chat simply doesn't work on my office computer
carolyeager: Maybe a more gentle entry into broader and more varied choices would be good
Stephen Downes: It's not that I don't *want* to use it, it's that IT DOESN'T WPRK
wayupnorth: Is there a possibility of reconciliation? It was an excellent method for the friday session
Stephen Downes: so he should stop saying 'oh he wants to own everything and doesn't want to use it...'
carolyeager: I se that Stephen neds voice!!!
carolyeager: Needs voice ...
JL: http://bit.ly/sNE0zP 
JL: Join hangout at: http://bit.ly/sNE0zP 
Stephen Downes: http://bit.ly/sNE0zP 
Stephen: trying again
Stephen Downes: got 'call error'
wayupnorth: @stephen - we see you joining, then dissappearing - no video, only a white window
scottlo: Yes, but Jeff isn't there an upper limit to how many participants can be involved in video conference?
Stephen Downes: it keeps saying "It seems you are already in the video call" - which of course I'm not
JL: perhaps a browser restart?
scottlo: Carolyn makes an excellent point about different needs and audiences and which type of tech to use!!
wayupnorth: @JL - did you say you could skype Stephen in - I know he's tried over and over to use G+
scottlo: just lost it on the EdTechTalk site - anyone else?
Markuos: yeah me too
wayupnorth: I still have chat, but am watching G+
Markuos: got things back again now
wayupnorth: But that planning discussion is a great view on how things are developed
carolyeager: I think irt is great to open the tesgting to all which is what I have b=seen so far in MOOCdom
carolyeager: the actual contiuous use may or may not work and that is fine too
Tim Owens: I will say for the record I understand why people love Elluminate and it has its place
carolyeager: sometimes, the variety is disconcerting to the participants and it takes time i= to introduce new tech features to keep the participants engaged ... IMHO
carolyeager: Yes, the audio in Backboard is terrible!
carolyeager: Yes, Tim, it does, and so do additional options ... all in their time and place
carolyeager: And I am one person on a laptop running a MOOC with not as large a group as Change .. and I do need some stability as I have noplace else to turn.
carolyeager: It would be reay good to have abroad exchange of perspectives and analysis among the variety of offerings and facilitators.
Tim Owens: Everything is a balance of cost/effort/time. Which you have more of determines what you might do.
carolyeager: Yes, Stephen, it is ... the variety and individual peculiarities are difficult to manuever around and still present a good learing experience
carolyeager: So far, I am stilllearning .. even as the old dog in the MOOCsphere ...
Tim Owens: Sounds like a lot of this is still on the horizon, it will be interesting to see Change develop
JL: hangout at: http://bit.ly/sNE0zP 
wayupnorth: I think we need to enjoy Change11 from the position of being part of something very interesting as it develops
Markuos: I sure am excepting of the process - It is messy - I'm having problems myself #change11
Markuos: Problems help with my learning process
Markuos: #change11 sure is engaging for me
Tim Owens: Lack of absolutes is a great quality to have in an onine course. Part of why I wrote the post. Elluminate sounded like an absolute at that point, which was dissapointing to me.
Tim Owens: But I certainly understand that when things are on fire you don't need to learn how to develop a new method of putting out fires. You need water!
wayupnorth: The process is a tremendoul learning tool - but if participants expect content delivery (course) they will experience disorientation
scottlo: six listeners on ds106 radio - I'll try to join hangout in a few minutes
Tim Owens: ds106 has a problem with filtering as well, lots coming out of the firehose. :)
carolyeager: It takes an inordinate amount of time .. and I have no lfe!
carolyeager: beyond MOOCs right now
Giulia: Radio, livestream, google hangout I can't decide where I should participate!
scottlo: The Forsythe is in the house
Giulia: hello LO
carolyeager: Yes, it was magical and it often depends upon the participants
carolyeager: a critical mass of creatove entities is more than helpful
carolyeager: I think the vaiety od weekly topics tends to limit a caryover of commentary
wayupnorth: commenting is fragmented - some comments are on blogs and some comments on blogs exist only in grsshopper
JL: Hangout at: http://bit.ly/sNE0zP 
scottlo: Forsythe, you jump in the hangout and tell 'em what you think
Giulia: Yes, WordPress made a big difference
carolyeager: Exactly! The grading factor does tend to push comments
Giulia: we were able to comment to each other, quote and link and it made connections through pingbacks
carolyeager: Hello Giulia
wayupnorth: lost stephen's last bit of audio
Tim Owens: I didn't realize trackbacks were a Wordpress feature?
scottlo: Is it possible to ignore the criticism - especially if it will come no matter what you do?
Tim Owens: We have to dream right?
wayupnorth: I've thought of copying comments from grsshopper to my blog manually, but it would appear as my comment, not the one who originally wrote it. Could include the info in a text intro.
wayupnorth: But I don't see nearly all the grsshopper comment
wayupnorth: YES! Carol
Tim Owens: Cogdog's 50 ways to tell a story
Giulia: tim, u mean trackbacks were ONLY a wp feature?
Tim Owens: I thought that's what you were saying? That because of wordpress you get those trackbacks. I had thought other blogging platforms could ping back
Giulia: they don't play together
wayupnorth: Change is more about ideas, while ds106 had a greater emphasis on tools
Giulia: blogger tracks to blogger but not to wordpress (it seems to me anyway)
Tim Owens: gotcha
Giulia: and typepd and posterous and ...
carolyeager: Good point Jim ... ideas and tools would be a nice mix
scottlo: Good point on informal small discussion Jeff -
carolyeager: And the conversations byeond the presentatins in a synchronous venue is also a wonderful learning opportunity
wayupnorth: PLENK10 gave me the start I needed to make sense of moocs - a nice mix of tools and ideas - or perhaps that was just the connections I made
carolyeager: Yes, that is the interactive presenttion I referred to earlier (Nancy's) with the integral interactivity
wayupnorth: I've got to run - this has been enlightening - look forward to seeing the rest of the recording
Giulia: bye wayupnorth!
JL: http://www.instructure.com/ 
JL: belated bye Jim
carolyeager: ttfn Jim ...
scottlo: Tim you can share some examples of Canvas being used at UMW at some point on blog or twitter???
Tim Owens: Definitely, still early days so we'll know more in the Spring after a full semester I think.
Tim Owens: My wife is going to get jealous with all these dates
jefflebow: Thanks all