Teachers Teaching Teachers #268 Learning from Occupy Wall Street with Jose Luis Vilson, Jose Rodriguez, Mary Beth Hertz 10.19.11

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Learning from Occupy Wall Street

Length: 68:18 minutes (15.63 MB)
Format: MP3 Stereo 44kHz 32Kbps (CBR)

On this episode of Teachers Teaching Teachers [21] these amazing teachers discuss Occupy Education [22], Occupy the Classroom [23], Occupy Wall Street [24], Youth Voices [25] and more thanks to our friends who publish at the Cooperative Catalyst [26]:

Enjoy!

Click Read more under the video to see a copy of the chat that was happening during the webcast.

21:00:21 JoseRodriguez: Hey Folks
21:00:28 csansing: Hello!
21:04:07 JoseRodriguez: Starting the hangout with the ETT folk
21:08:18 JoseRodriguez: just call me hoseB
21:10:06 JoseRodriguez: http://ocuppylausd.org [36]
21:16:01 JoseRodriguez: Sounds familiar..
21:16:57 mwhitehouse: Hi all, I'm new to this and I'm not sure you know I'm here. Can you see me?
21:17:26 csansing: Yes, in the chat :)
21:17:29 JoseRodriguez: see? are you in hangout?
21:17:47 JoseRodriguez: ah.. yes
21:17:51 JoseRodriguez: Welcome
21:18:21 mwhitehouse: Thank you for responding. For some reason, I can't get into Google+. I'm "doing" Occupy Wall St. too in my classroom.
21:23:03 mritzius: hey kids, what are we discussing?
21:23:20 mwhitehouse: Occupy Wall Street
21:23:37 JoseRodriguez: to.. occupy education..
21:25:53 PeggyG: why is the chat different in Livestream than ETT? everytime I click to remove an ad it opens the Livestream window.
21:25:58 JoseRodriguez: I haven't checked if youthvoices is open inside the firewall
21:26:18 JoseRodriguez: Not I....
21:29:20 Chris Sloan: Hi Peggy. I'm still trying to navigate the ETT-Hangouts combo
21:29:55 PeggyG: me too Chris
21:31:55 JoseRodriguez: I use Flocabulary...
21:32:13 csansing: Jose mentioned http://www.flocabulary.com [37] - is that right?
21:32:32 JoseRodriguez: It was cool for us to discover that swagger is a word that goes back to the colonies..
21:32:41 JoseRodriguez: yes.. @csansing
21:34:10 mwhitehouse: Can anyone share this for me since I don't know who hears me: I gathered photos of people protesting/demonstrating from around the world (I think I got them fromthe Boston Globe). One of the photos is of me at one of the OWS demos. Students will decide what might get them annoyed/angry/motivated enough to protest. Assignments: Create own sign for protest; create chant for protest; Determine where they should protest (symbolic importance of location). It's still evolving.
21:34:31 JoseRodriguez: My writing prompt today was.. If you were a kid during the the American Revolution, how would you show your patriotism..
21:34:54 mwhitehouse: last year I took my students to the commemoration of the Triangle Factory Fire. While there, one of my students said, "I did not know people could be angry together."
21:35:12 PeggyG: great prompt Jose!
21:36:57 JoseRodriguez: like.. it.
21:39:18 Chris Sloan: @mwhitehouse, can you join us in the Google Hangout?
21:39:54 mwhitehouse: I wish I could Chris. It says something about not having the right version of Java.
21:40:30 PeggyG: excellent point!
21:41:34 Chris Sloan: Can you download the plugin?
21:41:40 PeggyG: that is so true Jose! I love what you're doing with the recordings!
21:42:40 mwhitehouse: I don't have OS X Version 10.5 so it won't let me download the newer Java version. At least I can hear you all.
21:44:01 Chris Sloan: Darn. Love to hear from you mwhitehouse. By the way, where do you teach and what level, etc?
21:44:45 mwhitehouse: www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/09//global_protests.html [38] has great photos of global protests.
21:45:09 JoseRodriguez: the culture at most schools is around business and not instruction.
21:45:24 PeggyG: that makes so much sense about students hearing their own voice to improve their writing--never thought pf it that way
21:45:30 Chris Sloan: ugh. The link isn't working for me
21:45:52 JoseRodriguez: Being a grade level rep.. is more about sharing complaints and calendar events..
21:46:11 JoseRodriguez: rather than being a lead teacher .. as in science .. etc.
21:46:38 mwhitehouse: I'm work with special education students in the 8th grade. I am in a self-contained classroom and teach ELA, math, social studies and a bit of science. (Jack of all trades, master of none :) )
21:47:00 PeggyG: so sad, Jose, but true in my experience too
21:47:03 Chris Sloan: @jose, it sounds like you're able to make in more about instruction (instead of business).
21:47:38 mwhitehouse: if the link doesn't work, google "global protests Boston Globe" it should be the first link
21:47:49 Chris Sloan: @mwhitehouse, thanks. I'll do that
21:47:59 JoseRodriguez: well.. trying. We have a rookie principal.. 99%business 1%instruction
21:48:12 PeggyG: link worked for me-thanks
21:48:40 JoseRodriguez: I am in LAUSD..
21:49:41 Chris Sloan: Got the link mwhitehouse. Great stuff
21:50:13 mwhitehouse: I thought it had some powerful images. Hope you can use it.
21:50:57 PeggyG: second that :-)
21:52:12 PeggyG: those really are powerful photos!
21:52:44 mwhitehouse: To add to what Paul is saying: it has been my experience that there is a huge disparity between schools when it comes to consensus building. My suburban experience has been that administrators try to reach out to parents. But where I work in the Bronx, everything is by fiat
21:52:49 PeggyG: every photo can generate tons of conversation and writing
21:53:17 mwhitehouse: I'm so glad you like them Peggy! Wouldn't they be great in a galery walk?
21:53:29 PeggyG: absolutely!!
21:53:33 Chris Sloan: @mwhitehouse. Do you have a Google Plus name?
21:53:52 PeggyG: or an infographic
21:54:32 PeggyG: multimedia infographic to bring multiple ideas together
21:54:40 mwhitehouse: Should I be terribly embarrassed to say I don't know what you are talking about?
21:55:18 Chris Sloan: not a problem. A lot of us on Teachers Teaching Teachers have been collaborating using Google+
21:55:30 mwhitehouse: I have a google account: maribethw
21:56:34 PeggyG: consensus always takes more time but generates much better outcomes
21:57:05 JoseRodriguez: Well.. a lot of the new teacher run schools in L.A. run this model.
21:57:28 JoseRodriguez: We are a feeder school to a new high school..
21:58:36 mwhitehouse: Public mic, not as effective when the group is large (eg. Foley Sq. march)
21:58:55 mwhitehouse: I've been to 3 marches. It worked with smaller demo eg. One Police Plaza march
21:58:58 PeggyG: because no one listens???
21:59:16 JoseRodriguez: On my Mind...
21:59:21 JoseRodriguez: prompt
21:59:30 mwhitehouse: No. Because the flow stops before the people at the back have heard.
21:59:47 PeggyG: chants seem to be heard :-)
22:00:10 mwhitehouse: So the speaker says something and then people about 20 feet away repeat the words exactly. Then another group antoher 20 feet away say the same thing.
22:00:49 PeggyG: does the message remain the same as it's passed on?
22:01:05 mwhitehouse: Absolutely it is word for word
22:01:15 mwhitehouse: which makes for some awkward pauses in speeches
22:01:15 PeggyG: amazing!
22:01:49 JoseRodriguez: well.. we had walkouts.
22:02:03 Chris Sloan: @mwhitehouse, I just sent you an invite to Google+
22:02:22 PeggyG: teachers can lose their jobs--very different than a suspension
22:02:23 mwhitehouse: google "people's mic occupy wall street" - Rachel Maddow show has a good example of how it works
22:02:28 mwhitehouse: thanks Chris!
22:03:28 mwhitehouse: If I let my class set the agenda, their new teacher would have a job and I would be on the unemployment line
22:04:16 JoseRodriguez: btw: our blogs are at http://kidblog.org/fifthgradeconnections [39]
22:05:11 PeggyG: many similar experiences in AZ wiyh students walking out to protest illegal immigration legislation
22:07:58 PeggyG: really thought-provoking conversations tonight. thanks to all of you for sharing your stories
22:08:23 mwhitehouse: Chris, I added you to one of my cirlces. Thanks very much!
22:09:02 mwhitehouse: Taking my kids to the 9/11 memorial next month. We wil visit Zuccotti. I'll let you know how it goes.
22:09:38 PeggyG: good for you mwhitehouse! would love to hear about it
22:09:52 JoseRodriguez: @mwhitehouse that's cool..
22:10:58 mwhitehouse: You know what's even better? In NYC we have these things called "Pencil Partners". Our partner this year is an architectural firm and they are getting us into a building near the WTC so we can watch the construction site from above
22:11:04 PeggyG: great idea Paul
22:11:14 mwhitehouse: I'm excited about that view
22:11:52 mwhitehouse: This was my first meeting. Thanks for including me.
22:12:13 PeggyG: wow! @mwhitehouse you need to do an entire show!
22:12:16 JoseRodriguez: thanks for the invite.
22:12:34 mwhitehouse: bye
22:12:45 PeggyG: bye all!