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May 9, 2010
18:57:29 JenM -> Hey, Matt!
18:58:13 matt montagne -> hey john and jen
18:58:35 JenM -> dave says hi, too
18:58:53 matt montagne -> dave too...I thought it was just the 2 of you
18:59:05 matt montagne -> sorry 'bout that dave :)
18:59:20 matt montagne -> hey there peggy
18:59:25 PeggyG -> Your timing for the show is perfect today! right between the Celtics game and the Suns game :-)
18:59:51 PeggyG -> Hi everyone!
19:00:17 PeggyG -> yes I do!
19:00:24 PeggyG -> the Celtics won!
19:00:55 dave -> http://2010.northernvoice.ca/ 
19:01:20 PeggyG -> so sorry I missed Jeff!
19:02:36 PeggyG -> how was the conference different than what you usually do?
19:03:31 PeggyG -> how funny! tell us about the mushroom presentation
19:07:13 matt montagne -> the broad Internet is one great big social media platform
19:07:38 matt montagne -> but a telephone has one purpose usually
19:07:55 PeggyG -> that's one long day!!
19:08:25 JenM -> can't join 'em ... beat 'em: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/05/adobe-demonstrates-flash-on-andro... 
19:08:56 dave -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninmah/4590137267/ 
19:09:18 PeggyG -> would love to hear more about iCandy
19:10:11 JohnS -> Flowtown: http://www.flowtown.com 
19:10:16 PeggyG -> very cool image
19:10:17 matt montagne -> what app did she use dave?? That is really, really cool
19:10:30 JohnS -> Teens and Their Mobile Phones: http://www.flowtown.com/blog/teens-and-their-mobile-phones 
19:10:32 JohnS -> Who is the Modern Media Consumer?: http://www.flowtown.com/blog/who-is-the-modern-media-consumer?display=wi... 
19:10:32 dave -> don't suppose you read the notes under the pic?
19:10:38 JohnS -> What are People’s Perceptions of Spam?: http://www.flowtown.com/blog/what-are-peoples-perceptions-of-spam?displa... 
19:10:40 PeggyG -> she says autodesk sketchbook pro on ipad
19:11:10 matt montagne -> no, I'm lazy
19:11:25 dave -> http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/ 
19:11:37 dave -> @matt :P click the flickr link again...
19:11:56 matt montagne -> wow, her drawings are incredible
19:12:13 dave -> she's pretty cool.
19:16:57 dave -> http://www.slideshare.net/coarsesalt/if-machiavelli-and-montaigne-grew-m... 
19:17:11 PeggyG -> thanks for the link Dave
19:17:32 matt montagne -> Interesting thought..."The Tyranny of the Book." There definitely is a certain tyranny in the traditional book medium
19:17:48 dave -> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/6780848 
19:18:47 PeggyG -> interesting approach-point/counterpoint
19:19:01 PeggyG -> sounds a bit like the edfutures course :-)
19:19:12 matt montagne -> a book is oppressive in alot of ways...
19:19:25 matt montagne -> I can think of how some teachers will not allow kids to read on a kindle
19:20:10 matt montagne -> a kindle can really be a nice way for a kid w/ vision problems to modify the reading environ...but if the teacher never allows that and forces him to use the print book, it is a tyranny
19:20:32 matt montagne -> choice, choice, choice...give people choice
19:21:05 matt montagne -> hey paul
19:21:16 Paul Allison -> Hi.
19:23:51 sroseman -> Socrates
19:24:30 JenM -> Pearson BOOK Sales up 12% ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandteleco... 
19:25:06 JohnS -> Wikipedia Now Lets You Order Printed Books: http://mashable.com/2010/05/06/wikipedia-books/ 
19:26:04 matt montagne -> many organizations might continue to give money to companies that neatly package and organize information for students and teachers...
19:26:16 PeggyG -> an amazing concept!
19:26:27 JohnS -> TDSB considers replacing textbooks with e-books: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/tdsb-considers-repl... 
19:26:27 SteveEdiger -> We need to honor 'snapshots' as authoritative sources in some situations. For instance revisionist history that has been rewritten, depending on who is in control of the textbook process.
19:26:33 dave -> bye guys
19:26:36 matt montagne -> hopefully not for much longer...but textbooks could be the answer for alot of schools to information overload
19:26:39 matt montagne -> see ya dave
19:27:15 PeggyG -> bye Dave
19:29:04 JohnS -> Merlot Open Textbook Initiative: http://taste.merlot.org/opentextbooks.html 
19:29:38 JohnS -> CK-12 Flexbooks: http://www.ck12.org/flexr/ 
19:30:36 JenM -> Dumbphone ... http://www.fastcompany.com/1640204/dumbphone-statistics-oh-right-not-eve... 
19:30:39 matt montagne -> I'm a big fan of CK-12 and Neeru Khosla, the director...she was at our school earlier this year
19:31:10 matt montagne -> unfortunately we couldn't get any traction/interest within our school for CK12 flexbooks...hopefully we can revisit this.
19:31:31 JohnS -> Yeah, we're having trouble too, Matt.
19:31:32 PeggyG -> I heard her present at MEC last year and was very impressed but at that time they didn't have a lot of content available yet
19:31:50 PeggyG -> I loved the idea that you could add your own content to the ebook
19:32:57 matt montagne -> yeah, CK12 makes great sense...you start with seeded content and then you can do whatever you'd like with it...you can even print out copies
19:33:20 SteveEdiger -> 1 to 1 schools can do this now. Also it is more relevant for higher ed than for K-12.
19:33:31 JohnS -> Facebook’s Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/05/facebook-rogue/ 
19:33:48 JohnS -> Top Ten Reasons You Should Quit Facebook: http://www.rocket.ly/home/2010/4/26/top-ten-reasons-you-should-quit-face... 
19:34:27 JohnS -> Visual Guide To Facebook's Privacy Changes Over Time : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/07/facebook-privacy-changes_n_5683... 
19:34:27 PeggyG -> I agree SteveEdiger! I am very impressed with the materials being created by Empire HS in Vail AZ--called Beyond Textbooks
19:35:04 Paul Allison -> This boy was writing about his part of the garden with his cell phone: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ewsis/4588371804/sizes/l/ 
19:35:12 matt montagne -> facebook to me has never been private...even back when it was for college students only
19:35:25 PeggyG -> some of the recent changes are very frustrating on FB!! you almost can't get out of the popup without agreeing to sharing
19:35:33 matt montagne -> beautiful garden paul
19:35:37 SteveEdiger -> I'm interested in finding out who will be developing an open source version of facebook (in the long term). In the short term, we need to demand more granularity of what we can choose to not share.
19:35:44 matt montagne -> are those your plots right there??
19:35:57 Paul Allison -> My students don't accept my philosophy: Live a life that you can post publically on Facebook.
19:36:01 PeggyG -> great photo Paul!
19:37:04 matt montagne -> @Paul...that is what I find as well...that is similar to my philosophy as well
19:37:11 SteveEdiger -> It's also scary because of data aggregation and the ensuing patterns that appear
19:40:05 JenM -> Scitable (social network for science research) .. http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/05/06/scitable-a-social-network-for-scien... 
19:42:13 JohnS -> Lessons for the World: http://www.lessonsfortheworld.org/Lessons_for_the_World/Welcome.html 
19:42:45 Paul Allison -> (sorry to be behind the conversations, but...) I'm worried that young people's lives are more factured than they need to be because of all the online private spaces they have. I advocate for more public, more unified lives -- being the same person in school, at home, at work, at parties.
19:43:12 PeggyG -> I agree with you Paul! makes so much sense!
19:43:50 JenM -> http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/30/online-sex-education.html 
19:45:23 PeggyG -> you are very sure how this will play in a school district!! not at all!
19:45:26 JohnS -> More Google Applications Coming for google Apps Customers: http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2010/05/more-google-applications-co... 
19:45:58 matt montagne -> that could be really helpful for some kids whoose parents don't talk to them...who knows
19:46:03 PeggyG -> we'll be hearing about this on Saturday Night Live :-)
19:46:21 matt montagne -> this is big news...I'm really curious as to how google will link the enterprise networks w/the other tools...
19:47:22 matt montagne -> that is pretty huge news
19:48:13 matt montagne -> sounds cool, John
19:48:20 Paul a -> So will this include the free education accounts??
19:48:26 PeggyG -> Matt knows all about that :-)
19:48:33 matt montagne -> yes, paul
19:48:44 Paul a -> sweet
19:49:16 matt montagne -> that is smart john...
19:49:18 JenM -> Adult Literacy ... http://www.slate.com/id/2252927  ... and ... http://nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates/StateEstimates.aspx 
19:49:33 PeggyG -> students say email is for old folks
19:49:36 matt montagne -> not lighting up the mail side of things means you give up alot of integrated funtionality
19:49:41 JohnS -> yep.
19:49:50 JohnS -> And yes, all of this stuff will be available in apps for edu
19:49:59 matt montagne -> the email program in google is pretty social...status updates, chat, etc...it is quite nice. The kids like it
19:51:01 matt montagne -> the new groups feature in google is really nice too...no longer do distrubtion groups/listserves need to be centrally managed (although you can still centrally manage some critical mail groups while flatten out management for others)
19:51:56 JohnS -> Fake Science: http://fakescience.tumblr.com/ 
19:52:30 matt montagne -> this site is hilarious jon
19:53:17 PeggyG -> very funny!
19:53:20 matt montagne -> volcano one is hilarious!!!!
19:53:26 matt montagne -> gonna send this to our science folks
19:53:58 matt montagne -> nice show folks...great links this week!!!!
19:53:58 PeggyG -> I'll be interested to read some of the comments :-)
19:54:32 PeggyG -> where to the twitter posts come from that use the ETT avatar?
19:54:52 SteveEdiger -> Thanks y'all
19:54:58 JenM -> thank you, too!
19:55:52 PeggyG -> thanks for that explanation--was curious about it seeing a bunch come through yesterday
19:56:39 PeggyG -> didn't know those "rules"
19:58:08 PeggyG -> bye everyone! have a great week!