Week 1 without Jeff ... In a special EdTechWeekly, guests Bud Hunt and Zac Chase share their perspectives on two events impacting the education community this week, including the recent TEDxNYED  conference and the funding crisis facing the National Writing Project . Dave and John kept the conversation moving while Jen just struggled to remember the passwords to post the audio. Join us next week for the "Dave and Jen Show" to discuss Dave's research ideas.
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March 7, 2010
18:55:05 JenM -> hi, cathy e
18:55:55 Cathy E -> Hey Jen - long time no see
19:00:44 Gary -> Is UStream on?
19:00:53 dave -> ustream is not on gary
19:00:55 JenM -> no stream tonight
19:01:02 JohnS -> Just on ETT A.
19:01:06 Gary -> Thanks - thought it just might be me.
19:01:53 Gary -> Yes I am but delayed so I heard it. :)
19:02:55 cyndidannerkuhn -> Hello from Kansas State
19:03:26 JohnS -> National Writing Project: http://www.nwp.org/ 
19:04:07 JohnS -> National Writing Project Program Performance Report: http://www2.ed.gov/about/reports/annual/2001report/edlite-267.html 
19:04:18 JohnS -> NWP Works!: http://nwpworks.ning.com/ 
19:05:11 Bud Hunt -> Turns out that small investments in good people can result in good and thoughtful work.
19:06:00 JohnS -> http://twitter.com/nwpfundingconvo/favorites 
19:06:16 PeggyG -> all of the teachers I have met from the NWP on Teachers Teaching Teachers have been incredible! Doing awesome things with kids!
19:06:23 JohnS -> President's Education Budget Signals Bold Changes for ESEA: http://www2.ed.gov/news/pressreleases/2010/02/02012010.html 
19:10:02 PeggyG -> thanks for posting all of those great links JohnS!!
19:10:26 Gary -> Welcome everyone - a suddent increase in the chatroom.
19:10:43 robd -> those twitter posts help
19:11:00 PeggyG -> yes TTT has done a lot of shows featuring the great work of NWP teachers!!
19:12:51 Gary -> Does "competitive" mean "political"?
19:14:24 Bud Hunt -> Not necessarily, Gary. The intention is that it's a merit based competition.
19:15:28 Gary -> Thanks Bud - I am similar to Dave in that I do not completely understand the American education system.
19:15:54 bcrosby -> Hmmm, can't hear ...
19:16:26 Gary -> @bcrosby - Use EdTech Talk A
19:16:33 Gary -> At the top right.
19:16:34 dave -> http://edtechtalk.com:8000/listen.pls 
19:16:34 PeggyG -> even if you think you "understand" you don't always :-(
19:16:41 jeffmason -> forget sleep
19:17:27 bcrosby -> Thanks, got it!!!
19:17:55 PeggyG -> Race to the Top seems quite political from my vantage point--some states applied for extensions to see what made it through the first round...
19:18:41 cyndidannerkuhn -> Do you think they just overlooked it!!! Or theu just don;'t relaly undersatnd it value.
19:19:06 JohnS -> Open Letter on Behalf of the NWP: http://autodizactic.com/blog/?p=449 
19:19:16 JenM -> ... also happening ... http://nwpworks.ning.com/page/house-dear-colleague-letter 
19:19:23 JohnS -> Bud's open letter: http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2010/03/07/an-open-letter-to-my-elected-co... 
19:19:59 bcrosby -> Harry Reid is my Senator, (his grandson is in my wife's class) ... we'll see what bug we can put in his ear too ... not that we have any real connection there ... but this would be worth trying.
19:20:11 JohnS -> What the F**K is Social Media: One Year Later: http://www.slideshare.net/mzkagan/what-the-fk-is-social-media-one-year-l... 
19:21:28 cyndidannerkuhn -> Good points!
19:21:42 MrChase -> @bcrosby great
19:21:54 JenM -> info on how to participate ... http://nwpworks.ning.com/page/join-the-effort 
19:23:07 bcrosby -> Same with RTTT issues ... I've been trying to engage them @Edpressec there too.
19:28:05 dave -> i feel like i'm arguing against the rhizome... but that's not quite what i mean
19:28:16 robd -> Agreed...people can't understand social media until they do it for themselves and see the result
19:29:36 cyndidannerkuhn -> I will conact my congressman, all of them, than ks for alerting us to this issue.
19:29:52 PeggyG -> is the most important step to take sending the letters/signing the petition to Congress people?
19:30:01 PeggyG -> thanks Bud!!!
19:30:08 bcrosby -> Thanks Bud!
19:30:46 bcrosby -> Teaching a class right now for Writing Project here in Reno
19:30:57 PeggyG -> http://tedxnyed.com/ 
19:31:08 JohnS -> Thanks, Peggy
19:31:51 PeggyG -> Alex, Arvind and Vinnie focused on tedxnyed in their show this past week--sounded incredible!!
19:31:56 sroseman -> http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/blog/1340000334/post/650053065.html?... 
19:32:39 bcrosby -> Do we know when the vids from TedXNYED will be up?
19:32:49 dawn -> :)
19:33:25 JohnS -> Not sure. It just says "soon"
19:33:28 PeggyG -> http://www.youtube.com/user/TEDxTalks#p/u  this is the YouTube site where the TedX videos will be posted
19:33:43 bcrosby -> Thanks!
19:33:51 robd -> @peggyg - thanks
19:34:17 PeggyG -> I was at CUE during TedX and had to miss the live presentations so I can't wait to see the recordings!
19:34:46 cyndidannerkuhn -> I actually work with Michael Wesch, he is amazing
19:34:59 monika -> hey @peggyg - i need help - can't hear anything
19:35:55 Gary -> @monika - See EdTech Talk A at top left of page
19:36:04 Gary -> top right
19:36:20 JenM -> http://www.ted.com/pages/view/id/348 
19:36:41 dawn -> @peggyG Thanks for the link
19:36:43 PeggyG -> if you click on EdTechTalk A it should open in a player--mine opens in iTunes
19:37:03 aforgrave (Andrew) -> TEDxOntarioEd is taking place April 9th in London, Ontario.
19:37:03 bcrosby -> The "Ignite" programs are similar and are happening all over the country. I did one here in Reno last summer.
19:37:22 PeggyG -> the Ignite programs are similar but not all focused on education
19:37:37 jackiegerstein -> http://www.ted.com/tedx 
19:37:45 tomfullerton -> lessig's is posted: http://blip.tv/file/3309463/ 
19:37:47 aforgrave (Andrew) -> http://www.mrhazzard.com/tedx/?page_id=11  TEDxOntarioEd
19:37:53 JenM -> @aforgrave ... ok ... great! another ED based tedx
19:38:08 cyndidannerkuhn -> so where is Chris' presentation posted, I would love to share it with my pre-service teachers. link???
19:38:20 dendari -> Loved Dan Meyer
19:38:24 tomfullerton -> anyone have the link to chris's presentation?
19:38:35 bcrosby -> @PeggyG yes, but you can do whatever you want and I think it delivers an audience that educators don't always get to talk to.
19:38:52 jackiegerstein -> I found David Wiley's & Jeff Jarvis stimulating
19:38:55 PeggyG -> I agree bcrosby! I've attended the Ignite Phoenix events
19:39:53 bcrosby -> I don't think their presos are up yet ... to be posted in future.
19:40:09 JohnS -> http://www.invisiblechildren.com/home.php 
19:40:15 jackiegerstein -> http://weblogg-ed.com/2010/tedxnyed-amazingso-what/ 
19:40:37 jackiegerstein -> Yes - invisible children is great!
19:40:47 bcrosby -> Hi Dean!
19:40:57 monika -> we have one of their kids coming to our school mar 18
19:41:08 shareski -> Hi, going to make chicken wings and listen to the brilliance of Mr. Zac
19:41:53 bcrosby -> D'Arcy had a post about Ted a few weeks back ... maybe you already talked about that though
19:41:58 JohnS -> Shareski in the chatroom? I'm star stuck.
19:42:54 shareski -> @JohnS you must be watching the Oscars
19:43:02 dave -> wonder if shareski left the bbq for long enough to listen to tedx yesterday
19:43:24 JohnS -> Aren't the Neighbours having an Oscar party, Dean?
19:43:44 shareski -> @John, they just left..we entertained for a change
19:44:00 jackiegerstein -> http://teleogistic.net/2010/03/whats-wrong-with-tedxnyed/  Blog
19:44:38 robd -> it was probably the conversations in between the lectures that were more interesting
19:44:47 tomfullerton -> lectures to adults by inspirational speakers is different than K-12
19:44:53 aforgrave (Andrew) -> but there was considerable chatter between listeners enabled via tech -- different dynamic from traditional ???
19:45:28 jackiegerstein -> I love a good lecture - but do good lectures facilitate change?
19:45:47 aforgrave (Andrew) -> anyone in the audience yesterday in NY? passive listeners, or a lot of folks simultaneously in the room and online
19:45:49 bcrosby -> Sir Ken Robinson, supposedly says he spent 100 hours prepping his Ted talk on Creativity that is so popular.
19:45:53 JohnS -> yes, but there are times when lectures to K12 can be just as inspirational. It just doesn't happen every day with every teacher.
19:45:54 shareski -> lecture=presentation=communication it's what we do everyday...just that we want to give lots a chance to "lecture"....and not for 45 minutes straight
19:46:23 robd -> a good lecturer is very rare
19:46:26 JohnS -> @bcrosby I've spent 100 hours on many presentations that went significantly less well.
19:46:27 jackiegerstein -> I think we need to differentiate between lecture and discourse
19:46:53 bcrosby -> The Ted talk "lectures" , at least the most popular ones, are also highly entertaining.
19:47:07 robd -> @jackiegerstein - what IS the difference between lecture and discourse?
19:47:23 Gary -> Maybe we need to sit around the campfire more often.
19:47:31 bcrosby -> @JohnS - really? 100 hours on an 18 minute preso?
19:47:32 tomfullerton -> we can lecture effectively in K-12 but it is over-used by less inspirational speakers
19:47:51 JohnS -> @brcrosby mine was 45 minutes, but yes.
19:47:51 robd -> @gary Aren't we sitting around a campfire right now?
19:47:54 shareski -> Zac's recent post about his student giving a lecture was pretty amazing
19:48:11 jackiegerstein -> @rob - one way vs. two way communication - awareness of presence of the other - voice by both sides
19:48:20 tomfullerton -> this pendulum swing in ed'l reform - lecture is "bad" lecture is "good" .....
19:48:26 tomfullerton -> can be both
19:48:30 Gary -> @robd - Good point! More often?
19:48:35 bcrosby -> Wow!
19:48:44 jackiegerstein -> We are engaged in discource
19:48:48 jackiegerstein -> discourse
19:48:52 tomfullerton -> how is this affected by the backchannel?
19:48:58 robd -> i wonder if you have to be a good listener before you can be a good lecturer?
19:49:09 tomfullerton -> do we enter into an asynchronous / synchronous discourse?
19:49:11 jackiegerstein -> Twitter during the talks yesterday made it more engaging for me
19:49:36 bcrosby -> I can't even imagine having 100 hours to spend on a presentation.
19:49:36 aforgrave (Andrew) -> What about the "expert" dynamic created by the lecturer --- yesterday, Jeff Jarvis welcomed "the people formerly known as the audience," acknowledging the changing role of the "listeners" ...
19:49:49 robd -> @jackiegerstein Yep, I enjoyed Twitter watching while sitting at the CUE conference in California where they were talking in NY
19:50:04 jackiegerstein -> isn't it such fun, Rob?!?
19:50:06 bcrosby -> Not even 10 hours ...
19:50:09 JenM -> all the links we won't get to tonight ... http://delicious.com/edtechtalk/20100307 
19:50:11 PeggyG -> oooohhhh robd! what a great multitasker!!
19:50:51 bcrosby -> Bye!
19:50:55 PeggyG -> everyone come and join us on Women of Web in 30 mins
19:51:03 lorenchuk -> Enjoyed it Thank you!
19:51:14 jackiegerstein -> What is the topic, Peggy - late for me ;)
19:51:20 aforgrave (Andrew) -> Thanks Dave, Jen, John, everybody!
19:51:24 tomfullerton -> calendar link on your site?
19:51:26 Gary -> Thanks again.
19:51:35 PeggyG -> Jill Galloway-project based learning @ 1-1 laptop New Tech HS
19:51:47 PeggyG -> http://www.newtechfoundation.org/ 
19:51:49 jackiegerstein -> Thanks!
19:52:17 jackiegerstein -> Dave - what is the course you and George are starting new month - couldn't find it?
19:52:22 jackiegerstein -> next
19:52:25 robd -> Doesn't YouTube have some type of feature that makes transcripts from recordings?
19:52:45 PeggyG -> you have to provide the transcript for YouTube to get the captions on dotsub
19:53:09 dawn -> @jackiegerstein i want to know too
19:53:11 PeggyG -> very stimulating conversation tonight!!!!
19:53:17 cyndidannerkuhn -> thnaks good show, very interesting
19:53:27 Gary -> Dave always has Oscar time.
19:53:29 csitterley -> Great conversation tonight-lots of ideas-and challenges as usual
19:53:34 JenM -> @gary ... good one
19:53:39 PeggyG -> night everyone
19:53:44 JenM -> nite all
19:53:48 jackiegerstein -> thanks
19:53:52 sheila -> thanks all!
19:53:57 dendari -> night all