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In this edition of It's Elementary we discuss Interactive whiteboards with our guest Lisa Parisi and our in house expert Maria Knee. Our conversation centered around the use of the interactive whiteboards in a student centered curriculum. We heard example of best practices both for Smart Boards given by Lisa Parisi and Promethean given by Maria Knee. The discusion and comments coming out of the chatroom were very informative. For more details check out the text chat .
Durff : hi blew
Durff : hey maria
MariaK : howdy
Durff : answer your phone
Jose Rodriguez : Hi Alana....
Durff : hi colleen!
colleenk : Hey Lisa!
Durff : :)
alicemercer : http://blog.mrmeyer.com/?p=3330 
MariaK : hi colleen - you will be our next guest - in a couple of weeks!
alicemercer : http://mizmercer.edublogs.org/2009/03/13/opening-keynote-cue-2009-palm-s... 
colleenk : I will?
colleenk : just kidding
MariaK : @colleen heart failure!
Durff : hi zoe
colleenk : I tried to type fast.
Durff : hi msreagan
Durff : hi jdeyenberg
jdeyenberg : Hey!
Durff : hi michelle
Durff : hi chris
alicemercer : Hi all, anyone in audeince using an IWB?
chriswherley : hello
Durff : hi plnaugle
Jose Rodriguez : Hi there all.. audio on ustream. only today
plnaugle : Hi everyone.
chriswherley : not using but we are evaluating smartboard and going to demo of einstruction demo tomorrow
msreagan : Hi Paula
Durff : hi barb
alicemercer : seems like Mac teachers have promoethean more
BarbInNebraska : Hi Guys!
michelle beck : I have one mounted on a sliding system in my room. We have around 15 in my building (high school).
alicemercer : Michelle, wanna join in convo later?
plnaugle : I have a PolyVision WalkandTalk but getting Promethean next year.
Durff : parisi is back!
Lori Feldman : Hi Barb!
alicemercer : You'll need headset with mic, OR headphone if you have a builtin
Jose Rodriguez : Are yours on wheels? Michelle
BarbInNebraska : Hi Lori!
michelle beck : It's permanently mounted on a sliding rail system. We have a few movable boards on wheels.
Durff : hi lori
plnaugle : Hi Durff.
Zoe : At Lawfield, we have Smartboard in every room (some have two), it has been a huge learning experience for the staff, in tranforming the way we teach
Durff : :)
Durff : every room?
plnaugle : Hi Michelle.
Lori Feldman : grrr no audio yet...may switch back to ustream
alicemercer : Anyone with airliner or equivelient?
msreagan : We have a SmartBoard in every classroom. We are an IMPACT school.
Durff : wow!
BarbInNebraska : 2 Smartboards in a classroom!
msreagan : I have an airliner.
msreagan : LOVE the airliner.
Jose Rodriguez : So, Zoe you do see it as transformatie but in what way?
Durff : what's an airliner?
Durff : wb alana
lparisi : an airliner is a tablet that allows you to control the board from around the room
alicemercer : A pen/pad with controls and bluetooth wireless
msreagan : A wireless slate that you can use just like you are writing on the board itself.
Durff : hi brian
Jose Rodriguez : cool.. I want an airliner.. too
msreagan : Can pass it around for the students to use.
Zoe : Teachers are begining to use the boards for more than just projection ssytems, as group activities, "virtual manipulatives"; yes, two to a room, one is used for a guided teacher work station.
Zoe : I am not a fan of airliners at all
Durff : whyh?
Zoe : Students have a hard time using the ariliner and so do I.
msreagan : I actually use the airliner only and pulled the projecter screen down so that it appears larger and the students can see from all over the room.
michelle beck : to alicemercer let me know where to go for convo
brianyearling : Hi Durf
jdeyenberg : I had a tablet PC for a while. It's like an airliner, but you can actually see the screen, kind of like a mobile smartboard
Zoe : For the cost, I do not find the benefits worth it.
alicemercer : http://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/are-interactive-white-boards 
jdeyenberg : But now I have a smartboard - and I love it!
michelle beck : I use random name generator to maximize "touches."
Jose Rodriguez : random name generator?
brianyearling : I love my Smartboard, but I just can't justify the cost for so many teachers' uses of them
alicemercer : michelle: look for alice mercer on skype and then add me as a contact
michelle beck : to brianyearling Why not get portable boards so they can check out/share.
Zoe : My studnets use the smartboard (grade five) for mind mapping activities (in a group) ie: Smart Idea's. They also love theM Making google lit trips after reading a story
brianyearling : Because the reality is, they don't
brianyearling : Sadly
brianyearling : I try to be a realist...most of these tech tools are beautiful and transformative
Durff : don't what?
Durff : hi ernie
brianyearling : but when it requires EXTRA STEPS, so many teachers are not willing to take those steps to check out or share them
brianyearling : Some do, but most do not
Zoe : Does anyone have Speaker systems with Smartboard? We also do a lot of recording on smartboard.
plnaugle : All our teachers have Elmo's (document cameras), four have IWB now and 12 are getting them next year.
hilld : Recording feature is underused.
michelle beck : to brainyearling That's sad.
Ernie Easter : Hi finally got in. Had to finish other stuff first :(
Jose Rodriguez : recording? wothat's pretty coolw
Durff : can you use any speakers?
michelle beck : I love the recorder for screencasts.
brianyearling : The transformative nature of these types of tech can't be experienced if you can only count on using the tech once or twice a month
msreagan : We've had a couple of teachers use the smartboard to record lessons and post them online.
brianyearling : to michelle beck, do you have a smart board?
michelle beck : A few of us have used recorder for lessons when we are absent. Freaks the sub out but kids love it.
BarbInNebraska : Our Junior high math teacher records her lessons and posts online.
Durff : it saves the picture too?
Zoe : We also have Document camera's with our smartboard. Recently using Destination REading Program with smartboard, very interactive and good for small group
plnaugle : I like the idea of recording the lesson. It is more than just the flipcharts?
Durff : hi ann
msreagan : They didn't use flipcharts. They created lessons and recorded them--how to solve the problems, etc...
Jose Rodriguez : it's even better when it records students...
michelle beck : Yes, I have a SB permanently mounts. However, we started out with a portable one. Not many used the portable so it stayed in my room for a LONG time. We made a huge push this year to get some intensive training for teachers. It's made a big difference.
Durff : now that IS cool!
Durff : hey barb
BarbInNebraska : oops! How did I log off?!
Durff : yup
Zoe : Michelee beck: we had the same experience and our staff has gone through intensive training, very important part of the process
BarbInNebraska : extra support is huge!
Durff : do the students access those lessons again?
michelle beck : We started with training on how to use the board. Then we had training on how to use it in their content areas. After that we moved on to centers-based approach. (Centers is strange for hs teachers.)
plnaugle : My school system had the training this spring, our teachers won't have boards till next year.
alicemercer : Michelle, did you want to be called? Are you on Skype? there area lot of Michelle Becks where are you?
brianyearling : Here is what I have been promoting at my school...nobody listens, of course...Before a teacher gets SmartBoard purchased, they must first attend training of Smart Notebook software, and they must utilize the software for some time. Before purchase is made, teacher must show how their lessons make instruction more interactive. Once they've done that, then purchase it and let them run wild.
BarbInNebraska : I think you need more training once yu get the boards.
Durff : hi kennesan
michelle beck : To plnaugle Your teachers might benefit from a few refreshers once the boards are in the rooms. Otherwise, it will continue to be an underused teache rtool.
brianyearling : I think that training should take place before you even get the board
BarbInNebraska : because as you are working on the Smartboard, you find more things you can use them for.
James Sigler : I heard some edtechies say they don't like
Durff : shows kids how
plnaugle : I agree that I'll need more training. I am training online through Promethean Planet.
michelle beck : To alice mercer I don't have skype yet. I'll have to spend some time getting it set up.
Durff : demos are so important
James Sigler : IWB because it promotes teacher-centered teaching
BarbInNebraska : @brian, we had some training, but our teachers didn't really get it until they had the borads in teir room
alicemercer : Okay, so we'll jus thave you here in chat
msreagan : We had training on the new software before it came out and by the time it was actually installed, we had forgotten it. Then we had to be retrained.
BarbInNebraska : @msreagan exactly!
alicemercer : @james: yeah, it's a complaint i hear a lot
Durff : maria is too lucky
hilld : We have not had enough training
Durff : i don't have a board
plnaugle : @michelle beck Skype takes about five minutes to set up. Very easy.
alicemercer : Interwrite and Airliner with Smart are ways to do that
Durff : hi terry
BarbInNebraska : I like to see what other teachers are doing on their smartboards
James Sigler : I have a wireless keyboard and mouse that reaches anywhere in the room
Jose Rodriguez : does anyoeoneave any good links for lessons..?.
Terry Smith : Hello
kennesan : Anyone have really good training on YouTube or TeacherTube they have found helpful?
Durff : welcome terry
alicemercer : Okay, so hild elaborate on that since it's the topic now
brianyearling : @BarbinNebraska I just don't know if I totally buy that argument. In that early training, I think they should use the board, but the board, itself, isn't magical. You really need to expand your mind on how to make your lessons interactive first. The purchase of the board really should be a reward for a teacher changing their way of thinking on how to present lessons. However, the software can allow you to do that without actually having the board.
James Sigler : Smartboard lesson Podcast http://pdtogo.com/smart/ 
plnaugle : I think training ahead of getting board gets them excited, but definitely think a lot of training after boards are installed will be needed. Some teachers are willing to train themselves by playing around with the features. Other will not do that.
Durff : hi deb
debbarrows : Hello Durff!
kennesan : Lots of constraints on time since you can't really take the board home with you.
MariaK : hey deb
James Sigler : Our teachers currently have projectors and access to SB software.
debbarrows : Hey Maria
BarbInNebraska : @brian our principal gave everyone smartboards, 2 to 8, in our building. Even if they weren't techie. Parents would wonder why thier child didn't have one
annmcd : Hi Durff
brianyearling : @plnaugle Don't you think, though, that if they are unwilling to teach themselves or learn interactively how to use this great tool, that they are not great candidates to get this kind of board in their room? Not everyone can use this tool effectively...it is not a magic bullet of education...some teachers will do what is necessary to use it well, and others will not.
Durff : hi dorie
James Sigler : Is it an effective use of money if you install SB in classroom where teacher won't use it.
alicemercer : James: NO!
annmcd : I think that it's a waste of time to give a SB to a teacher who won't use it
brianyearling : @James Sigler, Obviously not, but that's the problem. Why would you do that, anyhow? Yet, as seems to be the case with so many education purchases, it is easier to just buy a bulk of something and put them in place.
hilld : The trick is getting the teacher to use it. How can we make them feel more comfortable?
annmcd : Give the boards to teachers who want to invest the time into using it
debbarrows : Hmmm.. not getting any sound tonight - what channel is working?
Durff : ustream
msreagan : why not have pd where the teachers create lessons together so they understand how to utilize the sb?
plnaugle : When they see other teachers using them I think they will get on the bandwagon. We started with 6 Elmo's two years ago. When teachers saw what could be done with them everyone got one this year. Experts need to mentor a newbie on the campus.
michelle beck : I don't think that everyone should be given a board just to say that each room has a board. If the teacher isn't going to use it, it's a tease to the kids and a waste of money.
brianyearling : I really think the trick is selectively purchasing these items. Not every teacher deserves one or will use it properly.
Durff : click the ustream window to the right
James Sigler : But how will the teacher learn to use it if they don't have access and training to use it.
Durff : hi katy
Jose Rodriguez : Welcome Katy
brianyearling : The board REALLY doesn't require training
katydel : hello
brianyearling : The software does, the board doesn't
Terry Smith : If teachers can see how they can put the board into the hands of their students and let them work independently, they can see a new way to learn in their classrooms.
katydel : i wasn't sure you were here
brianyearling : The software can be installed ahead of time
BarbInNebraska : But the training helps show all that you can do with it.
Durff : everyone have sound now?
Terry Smith : no
brianyearling : Right
Durff : Terry - click the ustram
Durff : i can't spell
Durff : ustream
plnaugle : We had to write a paper to our principal to get the board for next year. Five people wrote the paper and we are getting 12 boards.
debbarrows : Hey Durff - thanks - I usually use iTunes.
Durff : hi rozan
brianyearling : EXACTLY...that's the craziness of the whole thing
katydel : lucky you!!
brianyearling : 12 boards...
Durff : deb - not tonight
brianyearling : why?
Terry Smith : I think some of the training will lead teachers to use the board in typical fashion like ab overhead projector
brianyearling : Only 5 teachers are going to use it effectively
michelle beck : I think @plnaugle has the idea. Give them to people who will use it. Then mentor someone else. Two of our other schools have done this with tech in general and has worked wonderfully.
BarbInNebraska : Does anyone know how much a SmartBoard costs?
michelle beck : Wow! 12 boards!!!
brianyearling : That's a waste of money that could go toward classroom clickers, or just lcd projectors, or training for those 5
Durff : like $2,000 i think
brianyearling : When it's fully installed, not too far forom it
brianyearling : from it
debbarrows : Durff - are the 2 chats being complied from here and USTREAM?
plnaugle : I have been mentoring teachers on how to post homework and links to our eBoards. They need to see and do several times to get it.
Durff : deb - no
Durff : the chat is here only
Durff : hi tcooper
James Sigler : Has anyone tried a Wiiboard?
BarbInNebraska : Maria, cool moment
brianyearling : Yep
brianyearling : We tried to set it up, the Wiiboard
brianyearling : Thought it would be the breakthrough
BarbInNebraska : @James, I've seen one. I think Lori is trying to make one
alicemercer : NO, someone on DyDan wrote about it, I'll drop link
plnaugle : $10,000 each with all the bells and whistles. I am determined that they are not going to go unused.
katydel : good that's attitude
michelle beck : @alicemercer I have skyped downloaded. How do I find you?
brianyearling : @plnaugle One recommendation...if you don't already have it, set up a file/lesson sharing repository for teachers at your school
alicemercer : look for Alice Mercer in Sacramento, CA
James Sigler : I made one, but SB EULA doesn't allow the software to be used w/ the wii
plnaugle : We have wasted too much money in the past on unused tech tools.
brianyearling : When everyone can see other people's files, they aren't as overwhelmed that they hvae to recreate all of their lessons
alicemercer : Brian look for me too
alicemercer : and I'll add you
debbarrows : Durff - thanks. It is possible to chat at UStream however.
katydel : send them to Jujuy sure we will use it
plnaugle : @brain We are already looking into that. Thanks.
Durff : yes deb - but the show is here
James Sigler : I agree. Creating all your lessons from scratch is overwhelming
katydel : :)
Terry Smith : Just a quesiton -do you see most lessons being delivered by the teacher using the SB software?
Ernie Easter : And some times leadership must not give options and expect teachers to use it.
Durff : hey sheila
alicemercer : http://mizmercer.edublogs.org/2009/03/13/opening-keynote-cue-2009-palm-s... 
plnaugle : There are thousands of lessons onlline. Don't reinvent the wheel.
sheila : Hi Durff!
James Sigler : Where do I look for lessons for 3rd grade?
alicemercer : http://blog.mrmeyer.com/?p=3330  has comment from someone who did wii
Durff : i thought i was the crazy one
minhaaj : hi all
Jose Rodriguez : Hi minhaaj...
Terry Smith : Question still for all - is the teacher mostly at the smartboard doing the lessons for the kids?
Durff : hi minhaaj
Durff : hi rozan
brianyearling : Alice I just added you as a colleague on Classroom 2.0
BarbInNebraska : Lisa, that's funny! I don't like the lights off either~
alicemercer : Here is a link from CR 2.0: http://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/are-interactive-white-boards 
alicemercer : The concensus was, the more the kids touch and control the more transformative
James Sigler : Lights on or off depends on whether students are working at the same time or students should focus attention on the SB
alicemercer : brian, you want to come into call?
brianyearling : The Wiiboard is an interesting concept, but it just isn't yet ready for primetime
alicemercer : look for alice mercer or alice.mercer
James Sigler : I agree. The more kids touch the tech, the more student-centered the teaching becomes.
brianyearling : No, not yet. I've been listening for a long long time, but this is my first time in the chat. I better take it in small increments.
michelle beck : @alicemercer I am skype challenged. (find people>then entered your info but you're not there. What am I doing wrong?)
alicemercer : Michelle, where are you living?
michelle beck : illinois
Durff : michelle - i am phone illiterate
alicemercer : Did you get my request?
michelle beck : Holy cow! There you are!
Terry Smith : Student centered yes - however in the test environment, the SB seems to be used heavily by the teacher to go over testing materials
Durff : cows? there are cows here?
alicemercer : Accept friendship Michelle, so I can call you
plnaugle : Please add me to your Skype (Skype name plnaugle) I teach 4th grade math and English in New Orleans.
brianyearling : However, I will drop a personal plug... www.techintoed.com  ... practical uses for technology on a teacher's budget
debbarrows : Ernie - do you use Whiteboards?
brianyearling : :)
Jose Rodriguez : katy and thomas.. to listen click on play on ustream
Jose Rodriguez : play arrow.
katydel : yes i can hear
Jose Rodriguez : sorry I though you were listening.. we are only using the usteam tonight
Durff : :)
Jose Rodriguez : thanks katy
James Sigler : @brianyearling Yes. You still have to be pretty geeky to get Wii figured out and started. http://penteractive.us/  is a good start.
plnaugle : With the activote system with Promethean the students will be activiely engaged throughout the lesson.
alicemercer : Okay, you all need to accept my friendship on skype so you can join us
alicemercer : Brian, are we friends yet?
Ernie Easter : Mine hasn't been ordered yet. The projector is in & the video conferencing center, but not the white board. 5/6 also got their macbooks. they are waiting for their smartboard also.
alicemercer : On skype, not CR20
MariaK : @piaugle what grade do you teach?
minhaaj : alice, skype name?
brianyearling : Yeah, I saw that link. @James Sigler...I like to play with it, and we got it working, but it is the linking up of the bluetooth and the remote again and again that gets really annoying
debbarrows : So Ernie - you just need a WII board!
Durff : i would go with laptops
Durff : a cow would be nice
debbarrows : Durff - me too!
alicemercer : alice.mercer
Durff : i want to take a cart of laptops into the rooms
Ernie Easter : We use the LCD projector with our iBooks - am 1:1 at my school.
brianyearling : @alicemercer Alice, are you talking about on Classroom 2.0 . I mean, yeah, in real life, we can totally be friends. On classroom 2.0, I'd like to. :) I sent you a colleague request.
brianyearling : Or should I look somewhere else
Ernie Easter : Lots of projects in my classroom.
MariaK : http://www.learningandleading-digital.com/learning_leading/200902/?pg=32 
alicemercer : Brian, I'd like to add you to this phone call, which is on Skype
Jose Rodriguez : The text chat with all the links will be posted with the audio later this week
debbarrows : Oh cool
alicemercer : not CR2.0
Jose Rodriguez : just in case y'all were wondering.
katydel : great i was wondering that
Ernie Easter : Our 3rd / 4th has a smart board and that teacher loves it.
James Sigler : @brian make sure you have a bluetooth driver that works well with the wiiboard. I Once you get it up you can use Smoothboard with it. http://www.smoothboard.net/ 
Durff : hi sra
michelle beck : @alicemercer Did I get myself where I need to be?
brianyearling : Alice, I don't have the setup for it right now. No mic available at this moment, and a sleeping little girl in the next room. Thanks for the opportunity, but I'll have to decline this week
Jose Rodriguez : I am looking forward to incorporating them into my teaching this next schol year..
debbarrows : They are great with students who nedd assistive technology too.
Jose Rodriguez : sorry... the conversation
Terry Smith : alos great for skyping and getting whole class involved
Jose Rodriguez : michelle Alice can call you...
Jose Rodriguez : She has the conference call
Durff : hi escuela
escuela500 : [b]hola
Jose Rodriguez : escuela 500? sounds familiar..
escuela500 : buenas noches
michelle beck : wow! I have a lot to learn.
Jose Rodriguez : hola si nos escuchas.
Jose Rodriguez : ?
escuela500 : i live in argentine
debbarrows : Hola Jose
escuela500 : noo
Jose Rodriguez : did you do a show on puentesalmundo?
debbarrows : Thanks for sharing
Jose Rodriguez : Bienvenida.....
Durff : during post show you may barrage alice with your calls
escuela500 : gracias si es a mi
escuela500 : estoy viendo
brianyearling : @alicemercer I'm impressed with your ability to keep up on chat room and to keep a mind focused on the discussion as well. Good work
escuela500 : para participar el 22
Jose Rodriguez : estamos platicando de las pizzarras colaborativas.
michelle beck : I second @brianyearling.
debbarrows : Great wrapup
Jose Rodriguez : cual es tu skype id?
James Sigler : Is a tablet laptop w/ wireless connection to projector as good as a SB?
minhaaj : great show!
brianyearling : @James Sigler Yeah, no doubt
escuela500 : escuela.sarmiento
escuela500 : creo
alicemercer : @james: that approach has it's supporters
escuela500 : es que tengo varios
James Sigler : I can dream...
brianyearling : @ James, Really, it is just as good to have a wireless mouse and keyboard, seriously, it achieves the same idea
plnaugle : :p Thank you great session.
sheila : April 21st, Tuesday
minhaaj : and probably it'll be 23 here
sheila : Next time.
escuela500 : participamos con dos profesoras sobre tem?ticas ambientales
rozansdm : thank you
escuela500 : con peque?os
brianyearling : It makes it interactive, and it allows students to engage with discussion/content
brianyearling : Welcome aboard michelle
escuela500 : ni?os cuidadores del planeta
James Sigler : True. the more the students can touch, the better.
minhaaj : congrats Michelle
brianyearling : Michelle, your on with ...Michelle
Jose Rodriguez : si me pasas tu skype id for favor. Escuala 500
brianyearling : Yeah, English rocks!
brianyearling : Teaching writing!
brianyearling : YES YES YES!
brianyearling : It brings revision to life
James Sigler : What justification did she give in the grant for buying SBs
alicemercer : PLNaugle you want to join call, or just have me on Skype?
brianyearling : Second semester seniors, and they still like to come up and fix up the writing on the whiteboard
James Sigler : Centers in HS English?
brianyearling : Writing centers
brianyearling : Probably
James Sigler : Ahh
Durff : raises hand
brianyearling : Buy yourself a wireless mouse, keyboard, and get yourself the Smart software...you can do the same thing
James Sigler : :D
brianyearling : HS teacher
brianyearling : The topic transcends the your area/content
katydel : HS too
brianyearling : This could be a math show, but the transformative nature of instructional tech really achieves that
brianyearling : ability to transcend age and content
alicemercer : http://www.isteconnects.org/2009/04/06/iste-funding-webinar-available-free/ 
James Sigler : @Brian I have have those. It's close, but not quite as direct interaction as SB
brianyearling : I agree, but when it comes to the key idea, I'd rather have that than nothing
brianyearling : THe software really is the key...
James Sigler : The software is important
brianyearling : Really, the major foul ups in inadequate use stems from the inability of the teacher to use the software effectively
brianyearling : It is rarely the other way, where the problem is the hardware
Durff : is promethean better?
James Sigler : Hard to say
brianyearling : I just wish districts would learn that the concept of the "shared" board just does not achieve the most important piece, which is regular use that transforms the content delivered in the classroom on a day-to-day basis
Durff : i prefer simple yes or no
brianyearling : At that point it is about "having" the technology, not using it appropriately
brianyearling : Not better
Durff : i'm difficult that way
brianyearling : Just different
brianyearling : Check out software
James Sigler : Ok, yes
brianyearling : If you like Promethean's better, that's your answer
michelle beck : @brianyearling I agree that shared boards are not optimal. However, if you don't have the money then it's a good alternative. Having it on-hand increases the odds that it will integrate.
brianyearling : Maybe, I've got limited experience, but in my instructional master's program we looked at that exact theory
brianyearling : What we found was that it really became a glorified projector at that time
James Sigler : Can Polleverywhere with 1:1 or 2:1 computers replace clickers?
brianyearling : Few teachers were creating interactive lessons at that point
James Sigler : @Brian I can definately see that happening.
Ernie Easter : It was a great show and I logged in because of Durff's Tweet.
michelle beck : That's when you need to bring a content area SmartBoard specialist in to do very specific training for integration into the content are.
brianyearling : Have faith...this podcasting is precious, and so is your work. If you maintain it, they will come. (You should hear that eerie "Field of Dreams" voice)
sheila : Next time - Earthcast09, Tuesday, April 21, 9 pm EDT.
sheila : http://earthbridges.net 
Ernie Easter : That is during April vacation for Maine.
James Sigler : Looking forward to earthcast.
brianyearling : Yeah, but you know how people are. If they can't go back to their room and try it today, then they tune out (many of them). They say or think things like, "Yeah, but I'd have to haul that thing all the way in my room," or "I won't be able to get that thing because so and so has it in their room all the time."
James Sigler : Oh, I've been using Scratch with my students after school
michelle beck : So true!
brianyearling : So the training is important, but that's where getting the software on their machines can counter it, even if they don't have the board in their rooms
brianyearling : On their school machins, and on their home machines
brianyearling : Anyone here on twitter
brianyearling : Can I follow you?
brianyearling : How about classroom 2.0?
James Sigler : True. need the software for prep and planning
brianyearling : I'm at brianyearling
brianyearling : for both
Ernie Easter : I'm on ernieeaster
James Sigler : jsigler
plnaugle : :D Thank you everyone.
BarbInNebraska : Night!
MariaK : thanks for coming everyone - y'all come back
sheila : Thank you all!
brianyearling : Good work
James Sigler : Great show! Cool music
Jose Rodriguez : night all...
katydel : great work thanks for sharing
Jose Rodriguez : thanks for coming by
James Sigler : 'night
sheila : Enjoyed the music!