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A "berry" good brainstorm.
Thanks to Jeff for hosting the call, and all who joined us in the chatroom. This week we check in with Vance Stevens, Jose Rodriguez, and Dave Cormier about plans for Webheads in Action: Online Convergence, 2009 (WIAOC09).
20:59:26 dougsymington : hey JL
20:59:35 JL : Hey Doug
21:00:03 JL : Jose skyped me to say he wanted to join in tonight but will be on his cell for the first 30 minutes.
21:00:16 JL : I have unlimited skype if you'd like me to host
21:00:16 dougsymington : cool, thx
21:00:26 dougsymington : sure, thx again
21:01:28 JL : Brother Vance is with us this morning
21:01:44 vance : how'd that happen?
21:02:52 vance : do I appear on skype as well?
21:03:11 JL : shall we call you Doug, or would you like me to host?
21:03:19 JL : the skype conf
21:03:37 JL : guess I should turn my skype on either way
21:03:38 dougsymington : JL, plse call me thx
21:03:45 dougsymington : lol
21:03:48 dougsymington : true dat
21:03:55 dougsymington : welcome Vance and Sheial
21:04:01 Sheila : Hi!
21:04:50 JL : got your voicemail doug
21:05:37 vance : do I show up on skype?
21:06:06 vance : oh it seems to have kicked in now
21:06:14 minhaaj : Hi all
21:06:18 Sheila : Jeff you sound loud
21:06:27 Sheila : Hi Minhaaj
21:06:41 minhaaj : Wassup Sheila :) the energetic teacher
21:06:50 Sheila : :)
21:07:00 vance : I've got the feed now
21:07:09 Sheila : shoutcast
21:07:25 vance : how do I come on in?
21:07:29 Sheila : better! :)
21:08:22 minhaaj : echo?
21:08:36 minhaaj : better now :)
21:08:57 Sheila : Switching to ustream, don't want to be 30 sec behind everyone.
21:09:03 dougsymington : http://www.hancockwildlifechannel.org/staticpages/index.php/200903022000... 
21:09:14 minhaaj : oh i'll retweet.
21:10:02 minhaaj : lol
21:10:02 Sheila : Sound is much better on ustream!
21:10:20 minhaaj : you were in skype call Sheila?
21:10:25 Sheila : no
21:10:29 Sheila : Hi Peggy!
21:10:33 minhaaj : Hey Peggy
21:10:40 PeggyG : Hi Sheila and all!
21:11:32 PeggyG : really strange--I don't have a toolbar to use to float my chat window!
21:11:50 Sheila : refresh?
21:12:01 PeggyG : that will log me out but I may do that
21:12:37 Sheila : Or close window and try again.
21:12:49 minhaaj : have you tried Joomla Vance?
21:12:54 minhaaj : less hassle :)
21:13:15 minhaaj : or a webhost
21:13:29 minhaaj : lol nothing like Ning. agreed.
21:13:55 PeggyG : I think Moodle is much easier than Drupal
21:14:32 PeggyG : you can schedule events on a calendar on Ning
21:14:49 PeggyG : but there are other limitations on Ning too--even though I love it
21:15:03 minhaaj : does it? there are unconferences on web too ?
21:15:19 minhaaj : we had one in K-12, right Sheila?
21:15:21 PeggyG : absolutely Minhaaj
21:15:32 minhaaj : K-12 unconference that is.
21:16:06 PeggyG : often unconferences are blended--some present in person and some online like educon2.1 this year
21:16:09 Sheila : Sorry grading papers as I listen. . .
21:16:25 minhaaj : hehe don't fail em :)
21:17:10 PeggyG : you can add the calendar feature as the moderator of the site
21:17:43 minhaaj : Hi Robert, Durff.
21:17:56 Robert Squires : Hi Minhaaj, Thanks for the tweet.
21:18:01 mrsdurff : hey minhaaj
21:18:14 PeggyG : what's the link for the convergence ning?
21:18:32 JL : http://webheadsinaction.ning.com/ 
21:18:43 mrsdurff : someone put that on google calendar for me please
21:19:00 minhaaj : Yaaaaaaaaaaaay webheads!
21:19:39 minhaaj : building is an euphemism for bursting here
21:19:41 minhaaj : hehe.
21:19:45 PeggyG : the webheads are very active!!
21:20:04 mrsdurff : bursting at the seams, is it?
21:20:33 mrsdurff : hi dave
21:20:35 Sheila : Just talking about you
21:20:43 minhaaj : ahh its dave.
21:21:01 mrsdurff : i was born a webhead, wasn't I?
21:21:16 minhaaj : http://wiaoc.org/ 
21:21:18 guest478 : that and lazy keynoters
21:21:23 minhaaj : planning wiki url is on it
21:21:28 PeggyG : I'm a webhead lurker :-)
21:21:41 mrsdurff : that's my job!
21:21:44 minhaaj : http://wiaoc-planning.pbwiki.com/FrontPage 
21:22:12 minhaaj : Vance will you be using LearningTimes platform ?
21:22:24 guest478 : dave might try something
21:22:33 mrsdurff : that's elluminate, minhaaj
21:22:40 minhaaj : i know mrsdurff
21:22:57 minhaaj : i was asking as in LearningTimes or Individual link for the room
21:23:08 mrsdurff : 'cuse me, cat-attack
21:23:15 minhaaj : lol
21:23:19 PeggyG : yes easy to get mp3 from elluminate
21:23:47 mrsdurff : the sound of voices getting the cats riled up
21:24:12 mrsdurff : i'm at dani's house and the kids let those cats out in the house
21:24:19 guest478 : yay peggy
21:24:27 guest478 : uz iz master
21:24:31 PeggyG : the moderator gets a link with the mp3 and chat log from elluminate
21:24:36 vance : http://wiaoc-planning.pbwiki.com/Committees 
21:24:42 PeggyG : but you need to be the administrator/moderator
21:24:44 minhaaj : well in most webconferences you could record it so mp3 can be extracted
21:25:15 guest478 : ROTFL
21:25:43 PeggyG : the quality of the audio is not as good if you record it during a live session as when you get it directly from elluminate
21:26:05 vance : hi peggy, moderator gets a link to the whole schmeer whiteboard text chat recording in the implementation we're using
21:26:08 minhaaj : he did. testifies :)
21:26:12 mrsdurff : you both sound so enthusiastic
21:26:20 PeggyG : an unkeynote sounds amazing :-)
21:26:22 Robert Squires : I thought you get a .jar file from elluminate and have to purchase additional software to rip an mp3.
21:27:14 mrsdurff : no comment
21:27:46 mrsdurff : he said it folks, not I
21:27:56 Robert Squires : It's a bit of conversation killer sorry
21:28:29 mrsdurff : a rhizomatic direction?
21:29:12 mrsdurff : eek - cats again..................
21:29:22 minhaaj : get world unlimited Jeff
21:29:23 minhaaj : :)
21:29:37 Robert Squires : Logging out. I have a beautiful hops rhizome in the garden by the way...Gets bigger every year..bye
21:29:43 mrsdurff : jose = free wifi
21:29:48 minhaaj : bye Robert
21:30:18 JL : wow, that's a pretty good deal Minhaaj http://www.skype.com/allfeatures/subscriptions/uscanadaworld/ 
21:30:21 mrsdurff : ok these cats must go - brb
21:30:35 Sheila : meow!
21:30:39 minhaaj : i have unlimited WORLD.
21:30:46 minhaaj : paid out for 3 months. really helpful.
21:30:51 JoseRodriguez : Hey there folks...
21:30:56 minhaaj : Hey Jose
21:31:09 JoseRodriguez : greetings..
21:31:20 minhaaj : We change daily.
21:31:30 dougsymington : salut JR
21:31:34 JoseRodriguez : true....
21:31:35 minhaaj : There are amazing people on it. You could exclude me from them though.
21:31:36 minhaaj : lol
21:32:00 JoseRodriguez : ice cream anyone?
21:32:15 JoseRodriguez : :)
21:32:36 JoseRodriguez : 2007 was rocking!
21:33:16 minhaaj : except for the organization part, yes its internet
21:33:32 minhaaj : its like a pick-up game as for unconference
21:33:44 JoseRodriguez : is anyone taking notes?
21:33:56 minhaaj : we'll have chat log, no jose?
21:34:07 JoseRodriguez : yep....
21:34:15 JoseRodriguez : I like the party
21:34:43 PeggyG : a valuable unconference is one that occurs in a common time where people can interact with presenters and participants--little different than k12online conference
21:35:08 dougsymington : brb
21:35:24 JoseRodriguez : ok.. ds.
21:36:22 PeggyG : I think some moderation is definitely called for :-)
21:36:34 JoseRodriguez : me too..
21:36:37 minhaaj : as long as we have trolls Peggy
21:36:39 minhaaj : heh
21:36:43 dougsymington : back
21:37:07 minhaaj : sponsorship - paid conference not = webheads
21:37:48 PeggyG : you want to be able to depend on the people who commit to facilitate sessions and I agree that you want to avoid the commercial presentations
21:38:10 minhaaj : Online conferences/unconferences/unconvergences should be free.
21:38:22 JoseRodriguez : Lee Baber is a good a example...
21:38:27 minhaaj : Education should in general be free. or should break even lets say.
21:39:49 mrsdurff : the wifi merry-go-round
21:40:42 JoseRodriguez : really?
21:40:47 mrsdurff : the who of education?
21:41:03 mrsdurff : is that a name in education?
21:41:50 mrsdurff : there we go - the westinghouse of education
21:42:00 PeggyG : would the money for Lee Baber special go to award student/teacher contributions or scholarships or???
21:42:21 mrsdurff : $$?
21:42:42 guest478 : the $500 was committed by nancy white for a teacher project
21:42:59 PeggyG : I see-thanks Dave
21:43:02 mrsdurff : really? wow
21:43:19 minhaaj : i agree. i have learned things 'practically' in webheads.
21:43:44 minhaaj : sure
21:43:50 minhaaj : its www.changedetect.com 
21:43:59 minhaaj : i hope there is a firefox addon too
21:44:19 minhaaj : well it sends you email about changes on a webpage WITHOUT RSS
21:44:41 minhaaj : Hi Matt
21:44:41 matt montagne : hey y'all
21:44:56 mrsdurff : i'm totally ignorant and very happy to just have my Starbucks in a corner somewhere
21:45:01 matt montagne : hey minhaaj...how is it going!
21:45:14 minhaaj : great. geared up for earthcast09 :)
21:45:22 mrsdurff : hey matt
21:45:41 matt montagne : awesome, minhaaj! Me too! I'm looking foward to it!
21:45:43 PeggyG : what would processing involve?
21:45:46 matt montagne : Hey there Durff!
21:45:51 guest478 : fun chatting... back to my holiday :) just had to drop in
21:46:07 mrsdurff : holiday? now wait
21:46:11 PeggyG : the archive is very important!
21:46:12 dougsymington : thx dave
21:46:22 mrsdurff : if i'm giving up my holiday to be
21:46:28 mrsdurff : then you can too
21:46:46 minhaaj : you could also convert your blogposts, websites and presentations into podcast with Odiogo
21:46:49 dougsymington : welcome Matt
21:47:01 matt montagne : Hey DS
21:47:25 mrsdurff : don't think platform
21:47:32 mrsdurff : think function
21:47:36 matt montagne : I'm fairly ninged out
21:47:58 mrsdurff : there will never be enough nings
21:48:18 matt montagne : I don't think of platofrom either, but I'm tired on nings
21:49:29 mrsdurff : why not a central portal to hyperlink everything
21:49:32 minhaaj : wiziq.com
21:49:39 mrsdurff : and spread out from there
21:49:44 minhaaj : it works fine or me though Vance :)
21:49:53 minhaaj : for*
21:49:59 mrsdurff : does wiziq do that, minhaaj?
21:50:09 minhaaj : its a online conferencing tool like Elluminate
21:50:20 minhaaj : www.wiziq.com  i have been invited to test it by the creators
21:50:27 minhaaj : indian guys. done wonderful job. its flex based
21:50:36 mrsdurff : so still wanting a central portal
21:50:46 minhaaj : except for the screen sharing :)
21:51:19 PeggyG : can you embed recordings from second life?
21:51:36 minhaaj : if you can upload to someplace like archive.org, yes i guess Peggy
21:51:57 PeggyG : so you would have to record, download, upload to get the embed code?
21:52:05 JL : what format are the recordings? avi?
21:52:05 minhaaj : IMO
21:52:21 minhaaj : Jose?
21:52:29 JoseRodriguez : Yes...
21:52:30 PeggyG : on archive.org you need to have authority to post the video (copyright)
21:52:48 minhaaj : well if you run the event maybe you can gain consent for that Peggy?
21:52:55 minhaaj : like webheads i presume.
21:53:14 mrsdurff : i thought JL was always the wizard behind the curtain
21:53:23 minhaaj : oh i was asking about the question JL asked about file format
21:53:39 matt montagne : I'm really hoping we can archive all of our audio and get it posted to our Earthbridges.net site following the Earthcast.
21:54:08 matt montagne : quite a challenge due to audio editing, but I think we can get it done
21:54:14 minhaaj : yep he was on earlier
21:55:20 mrsdurff : it has been done at short notice vance
21:55:59 mrsdurff : you stream jose, alice will talk
21:56:07 minhaaj : would be like digital discussion group? :)
21:56:08 JoseRodriguez : :-)
21:56:29 mrsdurff : i'll advertise
21:56:37 mrsdurff : maria will show up
21:56:49 vance : http://wiaoc09.pbwiki.com/schedule 
21:57:08 minhaaj : hehe CC unless proven
21:57:17 mrsdurff : go for it jose - schedule us
21:57:25 Sheila : Heading out! Night all!
21:57:31 minhaaj : cya Sheila
21:57:34 JoseRodriguez : night sheila..
21:58:08 mrsdurff : love the way cormier puts it
21:58:23 minhaaj : People generally respect and offer intellectual property rights
21:58:43 minhaaj : unless you are hardcore academic :D
21:59:08 minhaaj : Maybe you could do slot with me Vance
21:59:11 mrsdurff : i'm a hardcore Starbucks fan
21:59:29 Sheila : back again
21:59:30 mrsdurff : sheila, you're back
21:59:36 PeggyG : don't you have 2-3 time slots Matt?
21:59:55 Sheila : @vance - If it's ok, may we have 30 minutes for a new teacher?
22:00:04 matt montagne : @Peggy...yes, we have hours 3, 4, 5 of GRE
22:00:08 Sheila : within your time slot.
22:00:14 Sheila : ?
22:00:23 PeggyG : that's what I thought--awesome!
22:00:29 minhaaj : love of web 2.0
22:00:30 minhaaj : hehe
22:00:42 matt montagne : and my school has an hour later in the day...but happy to give those to anyone takers!
22:00:45 carolteach4 : It's my first time here at EdTech Talk. Interesting.
22:00:52 mrsdurff : his undieing devotion
22:01:23 Sheila : @Vance - Did you see my note?
22:01:24 PeggyG : welcome carolteach4!!!
22:01:25 carolteach4 : I am still not a fan of Twitter, but that's how I found my way here.
22:01:33 mrsdurff : you're welcome to come again carol
22:01:54 carolteach4 : thanks - I'll be back again - starting April vacation, so I'll have some time
22:02:24 mrsdurff : carol, i was saying you're welcome to come again
22:02:27 PeggyG : could you do some pecha kucha sessions--short and to the point :-)
22:02:40 mrsdurff : but i got kicked off the net
22:03:30 PeggyG : that's definitely true Jeff if the person speaking changes frequently
22:03:34 mrsdurff : carol, - i recommend WOW every other Tuesday
22:03:37 PeggyG : many gaps in the audio
22:03:43 carolteach4 : Thank you. This is pretty new to me, but it was a thrill hearing my name in the audio. That's why we need to use more of these tools with our students.
22:03:47 matt montagne : that is a good idea...pre recorded intros / outtros
22:04:23 matt montagne : that is why I've been groovin on using a netbook as a "monitor"
22:04:32 mrsdurff : carol, did you realise Vance is in Abu Dabi somewhere
22:04:44 matt montagne : use my mac book for webcasting and netwbook as a monitor
22:04:47 PeggyG : good point about stopping the session and then starting a new session so you can have separate recordings
22:05:01 mrsdurff : he will correct my spelling i'm sure
22:05:13 carolteach4 : I have been following Cheryl Oakes (sp?) and Cool Cat Teacher, and I know about WOW from them, but I've never joined. I'll give it a try, hopefully, soon.
22:05:35 mrsdurff : it's fun!
22:05:37 matt montagne : hey James
22:05:51 PeggyG : elluminate publisher I think
22:06:05 PeggyG : yes
22:06:16 PeggyG : administrators of elluminate have access to it
22:07:03 JoseRodriguez : Hey James..
22:07:07 JL : Matt, any Earthbridges planning we should be doing while folks are still on the line?
22:07:15 PeggyG : Steve H always generates mp3s of our Classroom 2.0 LIVE elluminate sessions using elluminate publisher
22:07:32 JoseRodriguez : or as matt would say the low hanging fruit.
22:08:19 matt montagne : JL...good question...I'll be out of town this weekend, but next weekend I'm going to be around and we can do final preparations...I know we're going to need to do plenty of practice streaming
22:08:20 JoseRodriguez : :-)
22:08:21 carolteach4 : I heard a reference earlier about the threat of some web 2.0 tools that educators are finally embracing might start charging. In fact, there was a NPR story this morning about Kodac charging for online storage of pics.
22:08:56 carolteach4 : Again, what a thrill to hear you guys addressing me directly. I'll have to think of Twitter that way.
22:08:58 matt montagne : I'm actually feeling pretty good about Earthcast09...DS and Jose, on the other hand, might want to start catching up on their sleep now!
22:09:06 matt montagne : Low hanging fruit...love it!
22:09:07 JL : how many are part of 'we', Matt?
22:09:11 JoseRodriguez : funny...
22:09:51 PeggyG : yes carol--I heard that too about Kodak Gallery--you have to buy something every year to keep your album and photos stored there
22:10:00 matt montagne : @JL...I think the streamers are going to be the usual suspects...I think 6-7 of us will handle the streaming for the day
22:10:58 PeggyG : some exciting things coming up!! thanks for letting us join you for the brainstorming
22:11:20 matt montagne : we have roughly 16 different participants for earthcast
22:11:21 mrsdurff : must be time for the land of nod and planning to sleep in here...............
22:11:39 matt montagne : I think next weekend will be final prep for EC09
22:11:59 Sheila : the 19th, right?
22:12:01 JoseRodriguez : I'll be.. be leaving.. battery dieing.....
22:12:13 mrsdurff : you could put skype on a flash drive, vance
22:12:21 PeggyG : you need a hashtag too
22:12:26 mrsdurff : bye jose
22:12:31 JoseRodriguez : down to 30sec....
22:12:32 matt montagne : @Sheila...I'm planning on Sat the 18 and Sun the 19th, 17 GMT both days
22:12:34 JoseRodriguez : or so
22:12:41 Sheila : Nice!
22:12:54 Sheila : I'll feel better about that.
22:12:55 mrsdurff : could be that port
22:12:58 PeggyG : skype works great on an iphone :-)
22:13:03 matt montagne : EC09 is a bit of a house of cards as people have been wavering a bit, but what can you do
22:13:24 Sheila : @Vance - have a window open for you
22:13:27 JoseRodriguez : take care. all... bye
22:13:28 carolteach4 : Well, this has been an exciting first foray into the land of edtechtalklive. Thanks again.
22:13:43 matt montagne : ttyl all
22:13:45 mrsdurff : come again carol!
22:13:48 JoseRodriguez : edtecthtalk....
22:13:49 matt montagne : have good nite
22:13:52 Sheila : Thanks DS!
22:13:57 mrsdurff : nite all and happy long weekend
22:14:01 PeggyG : so glad you were here carolteach4--join us on WOW2 on Tuesday Apr. 14
22:14:02 vance : cheers all, thanks for the chat
22:14:47 carolteach4 : good night-I will try to join if I can connect. I'll be going up to Maine to visit hubby's mom who is 90 - if not this coming Tuesday, then next.
22:14:53 James Sigler : Sorry I missed the show. I was working on a blog entry and forgot.
22:15:19 dougsymington : @carolteach4 good hear--cya soon
22:15:30 dougsymington : np James, glad you dropped in
22:15:38 dougsymington : take care all and thanks again
22:15:44 James Sigler : I hope to make it in next week.
22:15:50 James Sigler : cya
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