Have a listen as the It’s Elementary team interview Jeff Utech from The Thinking Stick . Our topic was Wikis in Education. A great example of a webcast that almost never was or as Jeff Lebow says “Webcasting can be a very humbling endevour” or as Jennifer Maddrel said in the ETT Show Hosts chat, @jose ... trying to think of the most cheesy catch phrase (think the despair posters)and the best I can come up with ... "It takes the bitterness of the dips to appreciate the sweetness of the peaks"
2/10/09 10:36 AM... or "If webcasting is the intersection of messy and magical ... you were standing in the intersection when the light turned green" ... for some reason that one is REALLY cracking me up ... Thanks to the Edtechtalk Community for all your support and @everyone and YES the sun will rise again for It's Elementary
- Length: 22:33 minutes (5.16 MB)
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It’s Elementary interviewed Jeff Utech from the Thinking Stick . After a roller coaster ride on the Ustream train and some very interesting audio looping :-), we were able to salvage the last 20 minutes of the conversation. Thanks to all that showed your patience and support during our live show and especially to Jeff Utech for his spirit of collaboration and a great example of an edtech superstar. Make sure to check out all the great links in the Text Chat 
20:53:00 Scott Shelhart : Standard stream or Ustream tonight?
20:53:20 Durff : ustream
20:53:22 jutecht : Good morning....wish I had another Starbucks.
20:53:29 Durff : momentle
20:53:34 Durff : hi she
20:53:51 she : hi
20:53:58 Scott Shelhart : Thanks Durff. Ustream works so much better than the itunes or media player stream.
20:54:02 Durff : hi she?
20:54:10 she : sheila
20:54:43 mdipaola : @jutecht thanks for the tweet.
20:55:13 jutecht : @mdipaoia welcome!
20:56:37 Durff : hi!
20:57:25 chriswherley : trying to get access from my Asus eee with linux. should there be sound yet?
20:58:57 AliceMercer : Thanks for your kind comment on my blog chris!
20:59:09 Durff : not yet chris
21:00:04 jutecht : http://wikisineducation.wetpaint.com  will be talking a lot about this site tonight.
21:00:19 chriswherley : @alicemercer you are welcome. going to share your eb.tv with a teacher at school
21:00:26 AliceMercer : Oh oh, lol
21:01:16 chriswherley : :)
21:01:20 Walter : should I hear other voices than just a mail voice
21:01:29 mdipaola : @Walter stream's not up yet
21:01:38 AliceMercer : Can you hear me nagging lisa?
21:01:44 Walter : I hear Jose
21:01:51 chriswherley : :) :) :) :D
21:02:04 jutecht : ustream still working?
21:02:14 ericjp : off air atm
21:02:16 Scott Shelhart : was working, now off.
21:02:40 Walter : @jeff I could not figure out wetpaint you must share tutorials
21:02:51 Durff : hang on folks
21:02:58 chriswherley : is it ok to watch 24 at same time as listening here
21:03:03 Durff : ustream up
21:03:14 Scott Shelhart : Everyone hum the jeopardy theme.....
21:03:43 jutecht : @Walter will do
21:04:00 jutecht : @chris don't give away 24...we want the box set the year after...in two days. :)
21:04:23 Scott Shelhart : @Durff no ustream yet.
21:04:44 jutecht : For examples of wikis in the classroom here is a good list to get you thinking
21:04:47 chriswherley : :)
21:05:25 jutecht : http://wikisineducation.wetpaint.com/page/wikis+in+the+classroom 
21:05:46 mdipaola : @Durff got ustream!
21:05:48 AliceMercer : can you hear us now?
21:05:55 Walter : yes
21:05:58 Durff : ustream
21:06:01 jutecht : Ustream back up might need to refresh
21:06:23 Scott Shelhart : refresh fixed mine
21:06:29 Durff : folks durff has no mic you are spared
21:06:37 matt montagne : hey y'all
21:06:43 Durff : hey matt
21:06:52 Durff : hi kim
21:06:57 Durff : hi she
21:07:00 Kimberley : Hi Durf
21:07:07 matt montagne : hey durff et all
21:07:07 Scott Shelhart : I heard Jose, then nothing. Am I having troubles?
21:07:13 matt montagne : is stream running??
21:07:15 Kimberley : nothing here
21:07:24 Durff : just ustream
21:07:31 Scott Shelhart : Just Jose here
21:07:34 mdipaola : I can only hear Jose
21:07:37 Durff : no shoutcast
21:07:38 kcaise : i heard it for like a second
21:07:46 Kimberley : me too
21:07:47 matt montagne : Im not gettin gany auido at all
21:07:49 Durff : you should hear jeff
21:07:58 she : :( nothing here
21:08:00 JoseRodriguez : Hey folks sorry but firefox crashed...
21:08:18 Durff : hi maureen
21:08:36 Maureen : Hi Durff
21:08:49 AliceMercer : can you hear Jeff now?
21:08:53 Kimberley : no
21:08:54 mdipaola : nope
21:08:55 kcaise : no
21:09:00 Maureen : I have no sound
21:09:07 Durff : ustream
21:09:08 kcaise : i hear no one
21:09:23 Scott Shelhart : Durff is working on it....stand by please
21:09:23 matt montagne : no sound via ustream...only video
21:09:24 Maureen : Ustream is streaming video, no audio
21:09:25 chriswherley : can see the ustream but no sound
21:09:33 mdipaola : Able to hear Jose!
21:09:34 matt montagne : sound is good
21:09:35 ericjp : Good job.
21:09:35 Scott Shelhart : Jose.... hear you
21:09:36 kcaise : no i hear jose
21:09:36 Maureen : Yes! sound
21:09:37 she : yay!!
21:09:38 chriswherley : i can hear niw
21:09:41 chriswherley : now
21:09:41 kcaise : now***
21:09:51 mdipaola : OK, I hear two other people, but really really faint.
21:09:51 AliceMercer : try again
21:09:53 Scott Shelhart : everyone elses is REAL WEAK
21:09:55 matt montagne : but nobody else
21:10:08 Scott Shelhart : Way in the background
21:10:18 kcaise : i only hear jose
21:10:40 matt montagne : alice and jeff are really, really faint...they were barefly audible
21:10:41 Durff : hi mrgatto
21:10:46 Scott Shelhart : lost audio again
21:11:01 Durff : it was that obama guy blocking us
21:11:14 Durff : but we are persistent
21:11:19 Durff : so there
21:11:21 Scott Shelhart : Only hear the others when Jose breaks in
21:11:41 matt montagne : If anyone can make it work, it is Jose...
21:12:03 mdipaola : whoa, heard a audio squelch
21:12:07 Durff : dave?
21:12:26 jutecht : I love technology
21:12:31 Durff : third time IS the charm
21:12:31 PeggyG : can hear Jose loud and clearthat's all
21:12:33 mdipaola : Alice is still VERY faint
21:12:34 ericjp : shout.
21:12:34 guest : need a hand?
21:12:39 Maureen : just barely hear Alice
21:12:43 mdipaola : LOL
21:12:50 mdipaola : yes, we can hear you a little, alice
21:12:50 matt montagne : alice is super, super low...
21:12:55 Durff : i think jose should do the whole show
21:12:57 PeggyG : Alice sounds like she's in a big hole way underground!
21:13:12 Durff : well better than me peggy
21:13:20 Durff : my mic is zero
21:13:21 PeggyG : me too :)
21:13:40 Scott Shelhart : tried it at the ustream.tv page....same problem.
21:13:46 Durff : isn't this the week of the thirteenth?
21:13:51 jutecht : While your waiting check out some of the wiki examples on the wikis in education page.
21:13:55 guest : it shouldn't really be any different regardless of where you are
21:13:57 Durff : as in friday the 13th
21:14:13 jutecht : http://wikisineducation.wetpaint.com/page/wikis+in+the+classroom 
21:14:17 PeggyG : Great suggestion Jeff
21:14:22 guest : the server is up... and all seems well on our side
21:15:08 Durff : it ain't what it seems
21:15:14 jutecht : @Peggy it's a great place to see how others teachers are using wikis
21:15:33 jutecht : You can use them in so many ways...
21:15:44 Durff : jose is an expert too
21:15:49 Durff : hey james
21:16:13 Durff : she's singing again
21:16:15 James Sigler : Hi everybody
21:16:16 Scott Shelhart : I just started some wikis for my Scout units. The boys in the troop are learning how to edit and design.
21:16:29 Durff : we have made jeff's day
21:16:34 Durff : i am honored
21:16:57 PeggyG : did that site move to Wetpaint or has it always been there?
21:17:01 jutecht : @scott mind sharing the link?
21:17:09 Maureen : I can hear you Alice
21:17:10 matt montagne : I can hear alice clearly now
21:17:15 Scott Shelhart : YAYYY
21:17:21 matt montagne : nobody else
21:17:23 Maureen : no one else
21:17:27 PeggyG : just heard Alice no one else
21:17:29 Scott Shelhart : Only a female voice
21:17:30 kcaise : no, just you alice
21:17:41 Durff : hold o n
21:17:50 Durff : we are working on it
21:17:55 matt montagne : I think it is a Mac>Skype>Ustream issue...
21:17:59 mdipaola : we can hear everyone now
21:18:07 Durff : we can always party in the chat room
21:18:07 mdipaola : well
21:18:08 ericjp : i saw he has linein and soundflower i wish i knew how to help
21:18:09 mdipaola : alice at least
21:18:16 jutecht : @peggy it's always been there....1500 educators belong to that wiki
21:18:23 matt montagne : I had similar problem last week...I think ustream updated their flash interface
21:18:26 jutecht : a great resouces of educators using wikis
21:18:29 guest : @matt yup. mac and skype have simply never really gotten along... not in the last three years anyway
21:18:36 Durff : they did matt
21:18:40 jutecht : can you hear us now
21:18:56 PeggyG : I thought I was on it before but didn't remember it as a Wetpaint wikiI've just joined :)
21:19:05 Scott Shelhart : My scout troop's wiki (in progress) http://t162.pbwiki.com/ 
21:19:16 kcaise : we hear alice and jose
21:19:20 guest : i can uh... hear
21:19:30 matt montagne : audio looping
21:19:32 guest : wow... never heard that before
21:19:34 PeggyG : is Alice studk?
21:19:38 matt montagne : sounds like a rap
21:19:39 PeggyG : stuck?
21:19:42 guest : YAY it's 3 redux!!!!!
21:19:45 James Sigler : She has a scratch
21:19:54 guest : this hasn't happened in YEARS!
21:19:57 guest : woohoo!
21:20:00 Scott Shelhart : Go ask alice....
21:20:01 jutecht : LOL
21:20:07 PeggyG : too funny! some days are just like that!!
21:20:15 guest : (i might be dave cormier)
21:20:20 Durff : sigh
21:20:38 guest : still willing to help...
21:20:40 jutecht : Ok....so this make me feel so much better about sospodcast.org
21:20:52 jutecht : I thought we were the only podcast with these issues.
21:21:04 guest : @jeff these issues never stop happening
21:21:04 Durff : obama did it
21:21:26 Durff : alice we have been jinxed
21:21:28 jutecht : Is ustream back up?
21:21:29 Scott Shelhart : kids are hollering...brb
21:21:52 JoseRodriguez : sorry jolks
21:22:05 AliceMercer : Can you all hear us?
21:22:13 kcaise : no
21:22:16 ericjp : stream's off air
21:22:17 AliceMercer : Crud
21:22:18 kcaise : no sound and no ustream feed
21:22:51 PeggyG : who is doing the streaming?
21:22:55 JoseRodriguez : audio should be fine on ustream \
21:22:56 Durff : i want a refund
21:22:56 AliceMercer : Jose
21:23:04 guest : @Durff me too!
21:23:05 ericjp : :D
21:23:06 Durff : no ustream up
21:23:35 ericjp : http://tinyurl.com/2fz9jk skype to ustream guide
21:23:40 AliceMercer : check again
21:23:55 chriswherley : hello all
21:23:58 jutecht : refresh we're back up :)
21:24:04 chriswherley : we hear you
21:24:04 ericjp : good job!
21:24:05 Durff : ustream ok
21:24:15 PeggyG : hooray!!! audio and laughter!!
21:24:21 guest : YAY!!!
21:24:27 Maureen : Very funny!
21:24:30 chriswherley : oops there is the loops. ah yeh
21:24:35 PeggyG : but still looping and repeating
21:24:35 guest : ETT 3!!!
21:24:44 jutecht : It's elementary right :)
21:24:46 matt montagne : @ericjp...I had the same problem Jose is having last week...I think it is something with ustreams new flash interface
21:25:02 kcaise : it is so difficult to stream with PC's
21:25:07 kcaise : lots of variables
21:25:12 chriswherley : hello
21:25:18 matt montagne : @kcaise...Jose is on a mac
21:25:19 Maureen : This is giving me time to catch up on all the tweets from today makes my multitasking easier :)
21:25:21 kcaise : and that audio repeater is a doozy
21:25:24 Scott Shelhart : i hear Jose...
21:25:37 kcaise : maybe that is why he is having more success
21:25:42 guest : alice seems to be the start of the looping
21:25:51 kcaise : jose, i thought you were a pc guy
21:25:51 Scott Shelhart : we hear both of u
21:25:52 ericjp : Winner.
21:25:52 AliceMercer : I'm loopy
21:26:01 guest : ...
21:26:03 PeggyG : hearing Jose now
21:26:04 jutecht : @kcaise I have wiretap for the mac best $100 I've spent
21:26:06 guest : there it goes again!
21:26:07 chriswherley : ok ok ok
21:26:09 chriswherley : ahh
21:26:11 chriswherley : ahh
21:26:14 Scott Shelhart : arrg.
21:26:20 guest : what's up with that
21:26:23 guest : what's up with that
21:26:26 Maureen : That's really even funnier....
21:26:33 ericjp : i've never tried to skypecast live, i'm glad it's not me struggling with this XD
21:26:36 Kimberley : good grief
21:26:37 guest : Jose's shout was priceless
21:26:37 Scott Shelhart : ...missed it by that much (Max Smart)
21:26:43 kcaise : i know if the audio repeater isn't on the sound will continuously loop and echo
21:26:44 Durff : oi veh
21:26:44 chriswherley : somebody is looping microphone into speaker or vice versa
21:26:50 James Sigler : I still haven't gotten 1/2 way through the 200 tweets I just got
21:26:53 Durff : coffee all round
21:27:10 Durff : i think we should have a swim party
21:27:13 guest : @chris nah... it's not a mic/speaker loop it's an internal soundcard loop
21:27:18 James Sigler : Shout shades of James Brown
21:27:21 Scott Shelhart : cross your fingers.....
21:27:23 sheila : And it's not even Friday the 13th yet!
21:27:24 guest : dont. call. alice.
21:27:31 guest : loop
21:27:33 guest : i'ts not alice
21:27:35 Scott Shelhart : looped again
21:27:36 guest : it's jose
21:27:40 mdipaola : JOSE LOOPED!
21:27:40 Maureen : @James I left it running this morning when I left 1632 tweets later I'm home and getting to catch up.
21:27:50 jutecht : Any wiki questions while we wait?
21:27:53 guest : looping stopped
21:27:57 guest : @jeff what's a wiki?
21:28:01 guest : :P
21:28:08 chriswherley : rap. too bad not recording this with audacity
21:28:09 James Sigler : @Maureen Yikes!
21:28:11 guest : My biggest problem with wikis @jeff
21:28:27 guest : @jeff how do you keep them from getting out of control?
21:28:33 guest : after, say, 5 months.
21:28:52 guest : no prob with people who are dedicated
21:28:56 jutecht : @guest managing the wiki can be difficult. Especially with students
21:29:06 guest : @jeff (@guest is dave cormier)
21:29:22 guest : loop!
21:29:28 Scott Shelhart : looped as soon as you answer the call
21:29:31 jutecht : clear guidlelines and lots of time to explore the wiki
21:29:34 James Sigler : Skype rap
21:29:39 jutecht : @david howdy!
21:29:58 Scott Shelhart : didnt skype just have an upgrade?
21:30:08 James Sigler : What was the topic tonight?
21:30:19 Kimberley : wikis in education
21:30:19 jutecht : Skype upgrade for PC a week or so ago.
21:30:22 guest : @jeff yeah... have you ever tried to use categories in something like mediawiki and have the kids understand the higher level org... or just links?
21:30:27 Durff : chat party
21:30:47 guest : like, say, replicating what you would do with a CMS
21:30:48 Kimberley : everyone post their site of the day here
21:30:54 Scott Shelhart : can we ditch ustream and try shoutcast?
21:31:05 guest : @scott we certainly can
21:31:07 Durff : i think we should all have one big beach party
21:31:17 James Sigler : Is the wikicode for Wikipedia the same as all other wikicode?
21:31:21 AliceMercer : Check it out folks
21:31:21 jutecht : @dave no mediawiki with kids is difficult I think do to the wiki markup
21:31:27 guest : @scott you and I could start a competing show RIGHT NOW and make snarky commentary
21:31:32 matt montagne : @@guest..it looks like moodle 2 will incorporate some type of media wiki integrations...
21:31:59 AliceMercer : You getting both of us?
21:32:03 guest : @matt but why would we... that's my question. the wiki made SUPER sense before hte simplified CMS... but why would we choose it now
21:32:11 Scott Shelhart : I just got a new headset...that would be a great way to break it in!:D
21:32:37 Scott Shelhart : i hear background noise....not sure who>
21:32:39 James Sigler : @jutecht I did wikibooks with my third graders last year. Couldn't do more than text because of the markup lang
21:32:42 derrallg : hi everyone, no audio right now?
21:32:46 mdipaola : hearing Alice
21:32:50 Maureen : Hear ALice
21:32:50 Scott Shelhart : I hear alice only
21:32:53 ericjp : no jeff :(
21:32:55 chriswherley : hear aline
21:32:58 chriswherley : alice
21:33:02 chriswherley : no jeff
21:33:03 matt montagne : @guest...I'm just thinking that more robust, integrated wiki functionality in moodle will be nice...
21:33:13 Kimberley : just Alice;)
21:33:13 Scott Shelhart : ctlaltdel
21:33:27 mdipaola : @Alice what kind of sound card do you have? you can probably stream jeff through that
21:33:40 JoseRodriguez : Hey folks...
21:34:01 JoseRodriguez : with so many webcasters in the house....
21:34:04 matt montagne : @guest...and the authentication to one environment (moodle)...
21:34:36 AliceMercer : You all hear Jeff now?
21:34:42 jutecht : moodle wiki is not good tried to use it with 5th grade...disaster
21:34:42 Scott Shelhart : we need one of these. http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/techgadget/alookbacktheoriginsofctrla... 
21:34:57 mdipaola : can't hear Jeff
21:35:13 AliceMercer : Can you hear him now?
21:35:23 James Sigler : wiki easier than Moodle so far for me
21:35:29 Maureen : @jutecht moodle wiki is hard to use even for adults
21:35:31 mdipaola : still can't hear him
21:35:33 mdipaola : wait
21:35:34 mdipaola : off air
21:35:35 guest : night night all... good lucky with your webcasty
21:35:46 James Sigler : Night Dave
21:35:47 Scott Shelhart : What is better for a beginner? PBwiki, wikispaces, or something else?
21:36:04 AliceMercer : Try again
21:36:05 sheila : sound!
21:36:15 AliceMercer : Can you hear Jeff??? PLEASE?
21:36:19 sheila : I hear you both!
21:36:20 mdipaola : not I
21:36:25 Maureen : @Scott I like wikispaces but haven't given all the others a fair shot.
21:36:26 mdipaola : will refresh
21:36:26 chriswherley : yes
21:36:29 derrallg : @scott I think wikispaces is the easiest to use of the thre
21:36:32 JoseRodriguez : who is streaming?
21:36:33 James Sigler : I use Wikispaces with mine. Although Pbwiki still pretty easy
21:36:44 Durff : i hear jeff
21:36:51 matt montagne : @jeffu...yeah, I had the same experience...moodle 's wiki is very old..moodle 2 will have some type of media wiki integrations which should give moodle users some more options
21:36:54 Durff : and he sounds great
21:36:56 Maureen : who is talking?
21:37:01 Durff : and unflustered
21:37:02 AliceMercer : Jeff Utecht
21:37:06 JoseRodriguez : I can hear ustream now
21:37:15 Scott Shelhart : wetpaint....I'll check that out. Have only used PBwiki so far
21:37:16 Durff : love this guy
21:37:23 mdipaola : theeere we go.
21:37:27 matt montagne : wikis are definitlely easy, but when u start talking about students using wikis in multiple classes and with multiple teachers, then you'll want some coordination
21:37:38 Scott Shelhart : How did you fix the streaming problem?
21:37:40 Durff : but only one of three cohosts present
21:37:45 JoseRodriguez : no chances getting ustream super crasher?
21:38:04 Durff : be nice
21:38:10 AliceMercer : I am not using VAC, just pickign up jeff from my speakers, lol
21:38:19 James Sigler : @Scott Wetpaint front page is a little busy, but it has a template for class web pages
21:38:26 matt montagne : does wetpaint allow file storage like wikispaces?? The last time I checked it did not
21:38:27 Durff : we did a dance scott
21:38:46 Scott Shelhart : Aww... and no video tonightlol
21:38:57 Scott Shelhart : lol
21:39:21 JoseRodriguez : just glad Obama's speech is over... looks like he jinxed us tonight
21:39:35 matt montagne : wikispaces allows 2GB of file storage with free educator account which is cool...
21:39:42 mdipaola : lol. phone.
21:39:51 Durff : i think you are right jose
21:39:57 Scott Shelhart : Can I get a educator accout as a preservice teacher?
21:40:02 James Sigler : How do you handle students adding to wiki at the same time?
21:40:21 matt montagne : @James...that is the downside...
21:40:23 JoseRodriguez : I am undecided between wikispaces and wetpaint.
21:40:30 mdipaola : so here's my question: why the focus on wikis? why not use forums
21:40:35 Maureen : They have to be working on separate pages...
21:40:36 derrallg : @scott for wikispaces you just have to say it is used for some aspect of k12
21:40:41 Durff : they can edit different pages james
21:40:45 Maureen : yes
21:40:50 mdipaola : we can hear jose!
21:40:53 Durff : hear him
21:40:54 ericjp : everything is excellent now
21:40:58 Scott Shelhart : Thanks....I do have an .edu email address I can use.
21:41:03 chriswherley : all is good with audio
21:41:13 derrallg : @james my students are in groups that usually work together at the same time
21:41:14 AliceMercer : well, it's a duct tape solution, lol
21:41:18 matt montagne : @Jose...for me it is the file storage of wikispaces that I like...
21:41:22 Durff : for now chris
21:41:42 chriswherley : :)
21:42:01 derrallg : Wetpaint is aesthetically the nicest but for simplicity it is difficult for elementary students compared to wikispaces or PBwiki
21:42:40 Scott Shelhart : @derrallg What age students do you work with?
21:43:05 derrallg : @scott for 4 years 4th/5th and for one year 6th
21:43:52 derrallg : I tried PBwiki my first year and shared wetpaint with my high students and settled on wikispaces because of tracking student work which the others have now
21:44:14 Scott Shelhart : OK. I wonder what age is appropriate to start using wikis in the classroom.
21:44:24 derrallg : @alice you can create your own accounts on wikispaces now uploading an excel
21:44:33 PeggyG : that's a great question Scott
21:44:43 kcaise : i agree @alice. difficult to embed documents in a wetpaint.
21:45:08 matt montagne : what happens when a student has 23 classes where the different teachers are using wikis...there is a good chance, if there isn't coordination, that they could end up with 23 different logins...
21:45:14 PeggyG : I agree Kim! I had a really hard time embedding documents on Wetpaint
21:45:22 James Sigler : I bulk uploaded my students directly to my wikispace this year to create student accounts
21:45:30 JoseRodriguez : I control access and yes.... 13 is the "rule"
21:45:53 Durff : exactly
21:46:01 Maureen : @matt I have several wikis my kids use one login and they request permission to join wiki.
21:46:01 Scott Shelhart : I read something last week about COPA expiring. Any truth to that?
21:46:12 mdipaola : totally hate COPA.
21:46:14 Kimberley : I like jottit for ease of use
21:46:15 matt montagne : google's wiki is another option, especially if your school has a google apps for education network
21:46:23 derrallg : @scott that's what I thought had happened too
21:46:38 Scott Shelhart : http://info.law.indiana.edu/news/page/normal/9699.html 
21:47:22 JoseRodriguez : I created wetpaint... accounts.. going with gmail + student name go around
21:47:30 Maureen : @matt I like google sites but have trouble embedding
21:47:31 James Sigler : @Matt Good point. Multiple logins is going to be a bigger problem as we use more and more online tools
21:48:30 JoseRodriguez : we shouldn't get hung up on the tool.... but on the use.
21:48:41 mdipaola : @Jose agreed.
21:48:55 James Sigler : Oh, like that widget
21:49:06 mdipaola : @Jsigler would really really really love to see OpenID take off
21:49:09 JoseRodriguez : I do like the video feature
21:49:10 mdipaola : OH WOW!
21:49:16 mdipaola : that sounded like a 24 phone
21:49:19 jutecht : email@example.com 
21:49:26 derrallg : mostly text
21:49:27 Durff : a who phone?
21:49:30 matt montagne : @Jose...I completely agree, but as a school, especially when multiple teachers use this stuff, there has to be some coordinated use...
21:49:35 derrallg : not taking with many subpages
21:49:48 JoseRodriguez : @matt true
21:49:51 mdipaola : @Durff popular TV show.
21:50:01 Durff : i have no tv
21:50:11 Durff : thank goodness
21:50:23 James Sigler : @mdipaola True. Like OpenID, but may still be a problem for under 13.
21:50:25 Durff : imagine all that i could break then
21:50:44 Durff : jeff is so good!
21:50:55 Durff : i appreciate him so much
21:51:08 matt montagne : quick quest for jeff...does wetpaint allow file storage??
21:51:18 jutecht : Thanks Durff
21:51:30 James Sigler : Would CMS like Moodle help solve some of multiplelogins problem
21:51:32 jutecht : @matt firstname.lastname@example.org 
21:51:32 PeggyG : so glad Jose has been recordingreally want to hear the whole thing again!
21:51:54 matt montagne : thanks Jeff...appreciated...
21:52:52 Durff : remember if you ain't trying to break it, you aren't trying hard enough
21:52:59 James Sigler : Glad you finally got sound :)
21:53:02 Durff : i tried hard enough tonight
21:53:06 chriswherley : @jutecht can you drop wetpaint education sites again
21:53:19 jutecht : http://wikisineducation.wetpaint.com 
21:53:23 Durff : lol
21:53:25 chriswherley : thanks
21:53:48 AliceMercer : Your glad James!
21:53:53 Durff : wow 1400 !
21:53:54 AliceMercer : You're glad James!
21:54:01 Durff : that's a crowd
21:54:02 James Sigler : lol
21:54:08 Durff : mob rule?
21:54:15 Durff : wiki rule?
21:54:40 Durff : alice is echoing in chat now too
21:54:49 JoseRodriguez : signapore... really?
21:54:55 chriswherley : thanks jeff
21:54:57 Kimberley : wow
21:55:08 JoseRodriguez : I am geographically challenged
21:55:10 jutecht : Thanks everyone!
21:55:16 JoseRodriguez : thanks jeff
21:55:20 Kimberley : a great city
21:55:21 chriswherley : thanks Durff and AliceMercer
21:55:29 Durff : i did nothing
21:55:29 chriswherley : Thanks Jose
21:55:34 Durff : literally
21:55:38 James Sigler : I showed teachers in class web page workshop wetpaint wikis for making their simple, easytoedit, static class web site.
21:55:39 derrallg : thanks for a great topic and having Jeff on
21:55:46 chriswherley : good job of doing nothing
21:55:47 Durff : but cause a rucus
21:55:59 Scott Shelhart : Thanks folks. Nice job trouble shooting and solving the problem.
21:56:02 jutecht : Back to meetings for me a PD day here in Thailand.
21:56:24 chriswherley : thanks all. good night
21:56:42 Kimberley : what is the weather like in Thailand at the moment
21:56:56 jutecht : @kimberley 90F and beautiful :)
21:57:17 Durff : 50 here
21:57:24 Kimberley : spent three days there on our trip to Asia
21:57:39 Durff : lol
21:57:42 mdipaola : good show, thanks guys
21:57:42 Kimberley : hard time dealing with the pollution
21:57:48 jutecht : Later everyone!
21:57:51 Durff : we had such fun
21:57:58 JoseRodriguez : thanks
21:57:59 derrallg : night
21:58:06 jutecht : Let mek now if I can helpwith anyting email@example.com 
21:58:08 James Sigler : Good job Jeff
21:58:45 Durff : thank you all for sticking around
21:59:20 AliceMercer : Thanks everyone!
21:59:44 Durff : we already are a community
21:59:53 Durff : night
22:00:04 Scott Shelhart : When is the next webcat acadamy?