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November 23, 2008
Sharon Peters fills in for Globetrotting Jen & Birthday Boy Dave
This Week's Delicious Links 
Chat Log Below 
18:54:02 sharonp -> hi folks
18:54:13 Gary -> Sounds like sound effects for a science fiction movie (a very bad one)
18:56:22 arieliondotcom -> No echo out here.
18:58:09 Cathy E -> Yea, Dave
18:58:10 Gary -> Happy Birthday!
18:58:18 Cathy E -> Happy Birthday to you!
18:58:34 arieliondotcom -> smell his breath!
18:58:41 Gary -> Such a trial!
18:59:54 arieliondotcom -> How did you charge it in the airport?
19:01:16 arieliondotcom -> I hope its chocolate!
19:01:43 arieliondotcom -> Only Dave.
19:01:52 arieliondotcom -> You're not echoing for me, Sharon.
19:01:57 jan smith -> The sound is fine
19:02:12 Cathy E -> I don't hear the echo
19:02:18 arieliondotcom -> It's not coming out on the recording folks.
19:02:23 arieliondotcom -> You're fine.
19:02:24 sroseman -> sound is great
19:02:43 Cathy E -> online newspaper, maybe?
19:02:59 arieliondotcom -> Nope.
19:03:01 Alvin Trusty -> A little
19:03:01 sroseman -> nope
19:03:06 matt montagne -> sligth echo
19:03:13 dianne -> not here
19:03:16 arieliondotcom -> I think Alvin has a cold. :)
19:05:21 arieliondotcom -> Yes. It started cutting out there for a second.
19:05:28 Gary -> A wonderful start as usual!
19:05:44 arieliondotcom -> Was Dave the special guest or is Santa coming, too?
19:05:55 sharonp -> Santa?
19:06:02 arieliondotcom -> Fast-paced, not so much tonight. :)
19:06:03 jan smith -> It's like having the outtakes at the beginning of a movie
19:06:14 Gary -> Yay!
19:06:34 sharonp -> http://digitalyouth.ischool.berkeley.edu/ 
19:06:59 jan smith -> Yes, just in time for my lit review for my masters!
19:06:59 arieliondotcom -> you go girl. :)
19:08:09 JL -> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/lively-no-more.html 
19:08:18 JL -> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/searchwiki-make-search-your-own.html 
19:08:21 jan smith -> yes Sharon, more links please!
19:08:26 arieliondotcom -> Lively is dead.
19:10:12 JohnS -> Life 'Round Here: http://liferoundhere.pbwiki.com/ 
19:11:40 sharonp -> http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/ucla-study-finds-that-searching-643... 
19:12:42 JL -> http://edublogawards.com/ 
19:12:58 JL -> http://eduspaces.net/csessums/weblog/508216.html 
19:14:18 matt montagne -> Kinda like the truman show, but in edublogs
19:14:37 jan smith -> It's quite disconcerting when you find them on student blogs
19:14:50 JohnS -> Rudd Government's internet filter to block up to 10,000 'unwanted' sites: http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,24645568-5014239,00.html 
19:14:55 arieliondotcom -> i would not be cool with that.
19:14:58 jan smith -> I really don't like that it is ON the student's content.
19:15:22 matt montagne -> they do need some type of business model to keep the lights on tho
19:15:38 arieliondotcom -> But it shouldn't be intrusive.
19:15:46 jan smith -> I have put a disclaimer on my blog, and a reminder to refresh the browser to get rid of the links
19:16:01 arieliondotcom -> And when do you suddenly get onto the political bad-guys list and get filtered?
19:16:04 Gary -> Don't make the government annoyed?
19:16:27 arieliondotcom -> "We know better than you what you need to see"
19:17:13 Gary -> I have always wondered what eventaully happens to the censors - are they corrupted?
19:17:26 arieliondotcom -> Good idea, Sharon. I think the community would voluntarily pay rather than being nag-ad-ed to death.
19:17:31 jan smith -> Yes, I want to see edublogs float, but buying 10 bucks per month per blog---too much
19:17:33 Alvin Trusty -> Edublogs uses Wordpress. Wordpress is free.
19:17:56 Alvin Trusty -> All you need is a server.
19:18:10 sharonp -> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/us/20internet.html?_r=3&ei=5070&adxnnl... 
19:18:16 arieliondotcom -> Is someone tweeting?
19:18:30 jan smith -> I wonder if they are spreading too thin--trying to launch edublog TV at the same time.
19:19:13 Alvin Trusty -> Wordpress.com is MUCH faster.
19:19:36 jan smith -> The difference is how a teacher can manage / facilitate blogging
19:20:13 Alvin Trusty -> That's why student blogging really should be done internally... on a school server.
19:20:47 JohnS -> yeah, probably. And not necessarily using WP if you have things like Moodle and Mahara available.
19:21:01 JL -> http://www.elearningyellowpages.com/blog/ 
19:21:06 Cathy E -> Jeff are you streaming on shoutcast too
19:21:18 Gary -> Also here: http://www.bostonherald.com/business/technology/general/view.bg?articlei... 
19:21:49 sarah H -> Is anyone here using Mahara to manage student blogs?
19:22:20 sharonp -> I would love to use mahara, but my third party does not have the right mysql version! desoloee
19:22:23 JohnS -> Sarah, we're starting to
19:22:27 sarah H -> We use First Class, and I'm starting to think it's time to look around.
19:22:29 matt montagne -> @sarah...not using mahara for blogs, just eportfolios right now...and we're very early in the process of doing so
19:22:31 JohnS -> Deleting your digital past -- for good: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&... 
19:22:47 sharonp -> oh don't get me started on FirstClass!
19:23:03 jan smith -> Part of the appeal for edublogs is the attractiveness of the themes
19:23:19 sarah H -> I remember seeing your tweet earlier this week (last week?). . .
19:23:39 sharonp -> silo-ed information
19:23:51 matt montagne -> I'm with Sharon...don't get me started on firstclass either!
19:23:55 arieliondotcom -> LOL. I could have told them that for free!
19:24:22 Alvin Trusty -> @jan smith - JohnS gave me links to all the themes on Edublogs. I'm sure he would share them again.
19:24:46 jan smith -> And that is a scary thought.
19:24:51 JohnS -> Alvin, Jan, they're on the wpmu forum.
19:25:00 arieliondotcom -> LOL.
19:25:16 sharonp -> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-apps-to-get-more-out-of-your-new-mac/ 
19:25:21 sarah H -> ok--it sounds like we need to have a FC discussion sometime in the future. Our admin loves it.
19:25:25 matt montagne -> We're having teachers who r interested at my school use mahara to create an ePortfolio as part of their professional development...my sample is here: http://moodle.castilleja.org/eportfolio/view/view.php?id=4 
19:25:48 arieliondotcom -> There's no shame in my Iphone game. :)
19:26:22 matt montagne -> google phone=open source...u gotta like that...
19:26:34 jan smith -> @alvin, I am famil with the themes...just saying moodle can't do what a edublogs blog can do for engagement.
19:26:40 arieliondotcom -> He's not getting a kickback for that is he?
19:26:50 JohnS -> James Farmer's 100 theme pack from edublogs.org: http://wpmudev.org/project/Farms-100-big-ones-theme-pack 
19:27:03 JL -> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/business/16digi.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin 
19:27:23 JohnS -> Not arguing that, Jan. But if you're already using it, it may meet the educational needs for the projects you're trying to do.
19:27:46 matt montagne -> The Wii is interesting to gilrs tho...
19:27:51 JL -> http://www.joongel.com/index.php 
19:28:19 matt montagne -> I like the wii because it appeals to the non-typical gamer
19:28:40 JohnS -> Pentagon bans flash drives: http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/21/pentagon-bans-flash-drives/ 
19:28:55 sharonp -> for those of you who care... half time at Grey Cup game
19:29:00 jan smith -> sorry John--I must have gapped somewhere: my kids and I blog w edublogs, using dif theme, we are embedding dif content. My only :( is the ad issues.
19:30:01 sharonp -> flash drives also suck up bandwidth - a real problem for whom that matters
19:30:34 matt montagne -> I saw a 16 GB flash drive at newegg for $40
19:31:00 sharonp -> http://www.google.com/educators/all_grades.html 
19:31:04 sarah H -> Matt--your site looks good. I'm now absorbed in the moodle.org site.
19:31:46 JL -> http://www.untamedscience.com/about 
19:32:24 JL -> http://www.blogtalkradio.com/elikeren 
19:32:30 jan smith -> Are there skins or themes for moodle?
19:32:49 JohnS -> Monty Python's YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/MontyPython 
19:33:08 arieliondotcom -> Killer rabbits in the room!
19:33:11 matt montagne -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233042 
19:33:33 jan smith -> Bring out your dead!
19:33:36 matt montagne -> 16 Gig waterproof flash drive
19:33:44 arieliondotcom -> It's only a flesh wound!
19:34:22 jan smith -> this is abit like the arguement clinic from time to time
19:34:25 Jim Vetter -> This parrot it dead!
19:34:31 Jim Vetter -> ...is dead.
19:34:35 jan smith -> It's just sleeping
19:34:39 sheila -> SPAM!
19:34:43 sharonp -> http://www.economist.com/books/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12591038 
19:34:47 Gary -> Expired!
19:34:53 jan smith -> Spammity spam, wonderful spam!
19:35:08 jan smith -> I'm a lumberjack, and I'm ok...
19:35:24 sheila -> Go Jan!
19:35:28 JohnS -> See... all you have to do is mention python and the quoting starts
19:35:35 arieliondotcom -> LOL.
19:35:39 jan smith -> That was my entire adolesence,
19:36:02 Jim Vetter -> What technology is being used to switch back and forth between webcam and showing the chat?
19:36:23 arieliondotcom -> Bringing it back on topic, if we make out learning as interesting as MP quotes, they will remember it!
19:36:27 JL -> http://youtube.com/live  http://twitter.com/The_Real_Shaq  http://mashable.com/2008/11/21/shaq-twitter/ 
19:36:57 arieliondotcom -> Does YouTube have to have a point?
19:37:25 arieliondotcom -> Not without ads again.
19:37:54 arieliondotcom -> Maybe it's a guy that SOUNDS like Shaq.
19:38:18 sharonp -> have lsot sound??
19:38:19 jan smith -> yes
19:38:28 jan smith -> We can here you!
19:38:36 arieliondotcom -> We can hear you.
19:38:41 matt montagne -> Jeff will b right back
19:38:46 matt montagne -> Chrome crashed
19:38:47 JohnS -> who can you hear?
19:38:48 JuWolf -> I can hear you fine.
19:38:53 matt montagne -> that is for sharon and john
19:39:00 Alvin Trusty -> We can hear JL
19:39:04 matt montagne -> popcorn break!
19:39:10 sheila -> more cough syrup . . .
19:39:13 arieliondotcom -> We can hear you but not Sharon and John.
19:39:23 jan smith -> Jeff is trying to "get his act together"
19:39:39 sharonp -> Jeff, can i just throw you my links? LOL
19:39:49 sharonp -> Jeff can finish the show by himself
19:39:52 jan smith -> We can sing python tunes while we wait...:)
19:40:01 sheila -> No signs of panic . . . .
19:40:05 arieliondotcom -> They're back. LOUD.
19:40:29 sharonp -> we are doing this the old school way.... with skype
19:40:34 jan smith -> Nice recovery---well done!
19:40:49 arieliondotcom -> Sharon and John are both loud.
19:41:21 arieliondotcom -> It's fine if I sit across the room. No, we can't see you Sharon. :)
19:42:04 JohnS -> FCC Publishes 'White Spaces' Rules: http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=168155&site=cdn 
19:42:07 arieliondotcom -> At least Jen will know she was missed.
19:42:11 Jim Vetter -> This is being broadcast via UStream, yes?
19:42:16 sheila -> Just got my secret elfster pick . . . . Not one of you :(
19:42:18 arieliondotcom -> Yes.
19:42:34 Jim Vetter -> Thanks, Ariel.
19:42:58 JohnS -> OLAT: The Open Source LMS: http://www.olat.org/website/en/html/index.html 
19:43:11 Jim Vetter -> How are they showing their screens on UStream? It looks like it's designed just to show webcams.
19:44:14 sharonp -> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081117/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_new_word 
19:44:16 arieliondotcom -> I think they're using webcams they just switch the view.
19:44:21 matt montagne -> OLAT site seems to b down
19:45:00 JL -> http://www.penagain.com/ 
19:45:10 matt montagne -> good stuff, Sharon!!!
19:45:46 Jim Vetter -> Could this help my terrible handwriting?
19:45:57 JL -> http://www.wepapers.com/ 
19:46:03 jan smith -> Jim, no-- but it looks cool
19:46:18 arieliondotcom -> Looks like it would be useful for some folks with Cerebral Palsy. They could hook it around rather than having to balance between.
19:46:37 Alvin Trusty -> I've lost the ability to use a pencil. I can only type.
19:46:39 arieliondotcom -> We don' say "Meh" either. :)
19:46:40 Jim Vetter -> Ah, well, Jan.
19:46:47 sarah H -> frownie faces, smileys
19:47:21 arieliondotcom -> Anyone remember getting gold/silver stars?
19:47:30 JohnS -> Ziff Davis To Close Print PCMag, Focus On Online; Still Looking For Options For Gaming Division: http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-ziff-davis-to-close-print-pcmag-foc... 
19:47:30 arieliondotcom -> Hey, Stephen Downes would say that's open education!
19:48:26 matt montagne -> I think wit the economy the way it is now we'll see many more companies dump traditional print media...
19:48:36 arieliondotcom -> I've been telling folks where I work we need to quit publishing in print. They hired a guy for thousands and thousands of dollars when it could have been put online by the Web guy for free. Arrgghh.
19:48:46 matt montagne -> the economy may just be the push to mae this happen...
19:48:55 sharonp -> http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-news/index.cfm?i=56046 
19:49:29 JL -> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2008-11-21-webcam-suicide-options_N.htm 
19:49:31 matt montagne -> our school is actually talking more and more about eliminating printed newsletters, etc...most of our stuff is digital, but we still make print as well...
19:49:49 Jim Vetter -> He used Justin.tv
19:49:53 matt montagne -> that was terrible story...
19:49:56 matt montagne -> sad
19:50:07 arieliondotcom -> I'm sorry to hear that talked about. Some sickos are going to mimic it.
19:50:20 Jim Vetter -> Some people where chatting about whether he was using enough pills to kill himself.
19:50:29 Gary -> Like telling someone to jump?
19:50:33 JL -> http://www.dial2do.com/ 
19:50:43 Jim Vetter -> He put a link on the body building site to his Justin.tv stream.
19:51:03 Jim Vetter -> Dial2Do sounds like Jott.
19:51:14 Alvin Trusty -> My parents are retired. I call them.
19:51:20 JohnS -> StoryTlr: http://storytlr.com 
19:51:22 Jim Vetter -> Jott is free for the basic service.
19:51:48 JohnS -> IEP-IPP: http://www.iep-ipp.com/ 
19:52:42 sharonp -> http://images.google.com/hosted/life 
19:53:02 Gary -> Boo!
19:53:12 jan smith -> Boo?
19:53:13 Alvin Trusty -> All the pre-1923 Life images are in the public domain.
19:53:19 JL -> http://www.nanowrimo.org/ 
19:53:19 arieliondotcom -> Photos from the 1750s? Hmmm...
19:53:38 Gary -> Depends which part of Canada you are from. The score
19:53:55 sharonp -> maybe the 1750s thing was a typo
19:53:56 JL -> http://www.wikiaudio.com/ 
19:54:04 sharonp -> very funny Gary
19:54:16 jan smith -> Oh yeah, I am not a fotball fan, more into combat knitting
19:54:23 arieliondotcom -> LOL Cormier Day.
19:54:33 Gary -> Sharon - you have bias
19:54:42 jan smith -> Or nude tai chi
19:55:18 Jim Vetter -> Happy Birthday, Dave!:D
19:55:19 matt montagne -> Great show!
19:55:32 arieliondotcom -> Thanks folks.
19:55:36 matt montagne -> cheers for Sharon!
19:55:38 jan smith -> Bye all!
19:55:40 Jim Vetter -> Thanks!
19:55:42 matt montagne -> nice work filling in!
19:55:44 arieliondotcom -> Yes, Sharon. Great job!
19:56:00 Jim Vetter -> Sharon, you were wonderful. As were you all!
19:56:09 Jim Vetter -> I'm here for the first time.
19:56:14 sharonp -> aw thanks
19:56:15 Gary -> Great job Sharon except for the Grey Cup bias!
19:56:37 Jim Vetter -> How did you show your screen as well as the webcams?
19:56:52 JohnS -> he uses Webcam Max
19:56:56 sarah H -> Great job--I don't usually get to listen live, this was much better than on the elliptical. . .
19:57:01 Gary -> Yes from Alberta.
19:57:58 sharonp -> I love it - much better than on the elliptical.... that is a rare kind of praise
19:58:24 arieliondotcom -> What if the show MAKES you sweat?
19:59:09 Gary -> The team is named after a song that involves pulling parts off birds
19:59:19 JL -> The show usually makes US sweat :)
19:59:49 jan smith -> Bye
20:01:40 Gary -> Thanks again!