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Instructional-Design-Live #8 Interview with Professor Karl Kapp

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  • Length: 33:30 minutes (15.34 MB)
  • Format: MP3 Stereo 44kHz 64Kbps (CBR)

This week, we explored differences and similarities between Instructional Design work in corporate and higher education settings with Karl Kapp: http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/, http://karlkapp.com.  Karl's background teaching e-learning classes and experiece training CEO's and front line staff gives him a unique perspective on desiging learning for these environments. Some of the points discussed include:

  • Differences in the purpose of designing learning
  • Designing instruction to suit the different environments
  • Assessing the effectiveness of e-learning design

Cammy's live notes

Chat transcript:

2010-03-05 11:51:27 [Message] JenM -> Room 1: ETT A stream sounds great!
2010-03-05 11:51:32 [Message] JenM -> Room 1: is the ustream going, too?
2010-03-05 11:51:59 [Message] Robert Squires -> Room 1: No, we nixed the Ustream--Participants seem to get confused by the different spaces
2010-03-05 11:52:14 [Message] JenM -> Room 1: ok ... got it
2010-03-05 11:53:41 [Message] marlene.zentz -> Room 1: Welcome, Linda.
2010-03-05 11:53:55 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: Hi Marlene!
2010-03-05 11:54:55 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: When I click the "listen" icon, it always boots me out of chat. Have to remember to right-click on it, when starting
2010-03-05 11:55:07 [Message] Cammy Bean -> Room 1: Hi Linda!
2010-03-05 11:55:58 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: Hi Cammy
2010-03-05 11:56:02 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: Friday AM actually works for me
2010-03-05 11:56:08 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: lots of mornings don't
2010-03-05 11:56:28 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: yes - do a bit of both
2010-03-05 11:57:32 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: I actually teach in an "Extension" program...so it's through a university, but not "traditional academics"...more like professional development, but in courses that span 10 weeks
2010-03-05 11:57:39 [Message] JenM -> Room 1: audio download stats for show to date: Eposide 0 - 1,190; episode 1 - 907; episode 2 - 790; episode 3 - 890; episode 4 - 544; episode 5 - 471; episode 6 - 524
2010-03-05 11:58:10 [Message] Robert Squires -> Room 1: nice
2010-03-05 11:58:56 [Message] Robert Squires -> Room 1: Welcome K Smint and D black!
2010-03-05 11:59:04 [Message] Robert Squires -> Room 1: Smith--:-) sorry
2010-03-05 11:59:26 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: :-)
2010-03-05 11:59:45 [Message] DBlack -> Room 1: Good Morning all
2010-03-05 11:59:53 [Message] mary engstrom -> Room 1: Hi Deirdre!
2010-03-05 12:00:03 [Message] DBlack -> Room 1: Hello
2010-03-05 12:00:14 [Message] Cammy Bean -> Room 1: We're just informally chatting now.
2010-03-05 12:00:29 [Message] Cammy Bean -> Room 1: Jen -- thanks for those stats!
2010-03-05 12:00:38 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: That would be interesting
2010-03-05 12:00:42 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: (Moodle)
2010-03-05 12:00:50 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: Like an LMS Webinar
2010-03-05 12:01:11 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: In like a lamb
2010-03-05 12:01:34 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: Cold in Montana?
2010-03-05 12:01:54 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: Karl
2010-03-05 12:02:04 [Message] mary engstrom -> Room 1: Actually really warm in Montana -- 50 degrees or so
2010-03-05 12:02:23 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: Wow its 55 in Texas
2010-03-05 12:02:43 [Message] JenM -> Room 1: hear some typing ...
2010-03-05 12:02:44 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: Typing is load
2010-03-05 12:03:09 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: 41 in MD
2010-03-05 12:03:58 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: YEAH PA 1
2010-03-05 12:04:02 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: !
2010-03-05 12:04:51 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: 12 step program for ISD Geeks
2010-03-05 12:05:14 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: what is learning in 3D?
2010-03-05 12:05:43 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: hello my name is mrsdurff and I have a problem
2010-03-05 12:06:30 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: Hi mrsdurff (sheepishly)
2010-03-05 12:06:39 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: oooooo
2010-03-05 12:06:42 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: Hi!
2010-03-05 12:06:53 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: Fellow Geek here
2010-03-05 12:06:58 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: missed what you said about corporate
2010-03-05 12:08:35 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: hey bloominvines
2010-03-05 12:08:54 [Message] bloomingvines -> Room 1: Hi. oh oh. i may not be in the right room. sorry.
2010-03-05 12:10:25 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: sound good on ETT A
2010-03-05 12:11:06 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: In corporate world you always have to sell value/benefits @ low cost or no cost and show results - results in the way "they" understand and done
2010-03-05 12:11:21 [Message] JenM -> Room 1: beyond the difference in design practices b/w corp vs. HE, what about the actual instructional differences? for ex. design of interaction among learners, etc.
2010-03-05 12:12:20 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: Exactly - faculty aren't helped with "how to teach" (often)
2010-03-05 12:12:45 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: now really, it isn't rocket science
2010-03-05 12:13:08 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: I was an ISD - faculty development specialist once offering workshops and cosultations on teaching to a heaalth education faculty
2010-03-05 12:13:52 [Message] JenM -> Room 1: @lisa ... it is if you are doing training for NASA :)
2010-03-05 12:14:04 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: ok, touche
2010-03-05 12:14:09 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: ouch
2010-03-05 12:14:36 [Message] Cammy Bean -> Room 1: corporate is focused on performance outcomes.
2010-03-05 12:15:58 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: Depends on the content of the course, in some corporate courses, you really do need critical thinking in order to apply what you learn...maybe not in sales training, but in using sophisticated processes, complex enterprise software, etc
2010-03-05 12:16:12 [Message] Cammy Bean -> Room 1: Ethics, leadership...more behavioral focus.
2010-03-05 12:16:54 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: Sophisticated training that develop skills (how to be an effective programmer in a specific programming language, etc), needs critical thinking in order to apply
2010-03-05 12:17:55 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: I think often that "corporate training" is too limited...focus is on the "improve sales rep goals" improve "customer support"...lots of other kinds of corporate-level training, as well
2010-03-05 12:19:43 [Message] mary engstrom -> Room 1: @Linda U: I see those things as human performance "problems" rather than instructional ones (eg: ones that can be solved via instruction)
2010-03-05 12:20:31 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: MaryE: Can be seen that way, however there are lots of courses that are involved in that process. And the ID for those courses needs to have broader picture in mind
2010-03-05 12:21:07 [Message] mary engstrom -> Room 1: Agreed.
2010-03-05 12:21:07 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: hi srenatee
2010-03-05 12:21:33 [Message] srenatee -> Room 1: hi! can't find sound yet.
2010-03-05 12:21:42 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: ETT A
2010-03-05 12:21:48 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: above right
2010-03-05 12:21:56 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: I use the blue icon
2010-03-05 12:22:06 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: hi rucsb
2010-03-05 12:22:18 [Message] srenatee -> Room 1: got it.
2010-03-05 12:23:05 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: hi jr
2010-03-05 12:23:56 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: tell him to stutter
2010-03-05 12:24:04 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: on purpose
2010-03-05 12:24:39 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: Stragies come in the "design" part of ADDIE
2010-03-05 12:24:59 [Message] JenM -> Room 1: yay! great breakdown of ADDIE vs instructional design
2010-03-05 12:25:14 [Message] JenM -> Room 1: (as I think of instructional design)
2010-03-05 12:26:02 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: Robert your voice got very soft
2010-03-05 12:26:36 [Message] Robert Squires -> Room 1: Thanks--got it
2010-03-05 12:30:02 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: Challenge for developing corporate training that is purchased by a customer: how to measure behavior change? Needs to be driven from within company
2010-03-05 12:30:14 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: Results may never come back to the instructional designer
2010-03-05 12:31:08 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: Good Examples as long as we know if the performance environment changed and impacts performance (as U said)
2010-03-05 12:31:40 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: :-D
2010-03-05 12:31:43 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: LOL
2010-03-05 12:32:04 [Message] rucsb -> Room 1: hi
2010-03-05 12:32:28 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: :-( - end of our time
2010-03-05 12:33:29 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: VWBPE
2010-03-05 12:33:49 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: Corporate is slowwwww.
2010-03-05 12:33:56 [Message] DBlack -> Room 1: That's really surprising to hear.
2010-03-05 12:33:57 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: Great session
2010-03-05 12:34:09 [Message] JenM -> Room 1: this would be great topic for a "Part 2" discussion down the road
2010-03-05 12:34:23 [Message] Cammy Bean -> Room 1: gwbpe.org
2010-03-05 12:34:24 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: VWBPE-> http://www.vwbpe.org/
2010-03-05 12:34:35 [Message] Cammy Bean -> Room 1: oops v not g :)
2010-03-05 12:34:35 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: High Ed is the test rat for corporate
2010-03-05 12:34:54 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: K_Smith: Agree
2010-03-05 12:34:56 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1:  it is http://www.vwbpe.org/
2010-03-05 12:35:15 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: can he see this chat?
2010-03-05 12:35:30 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: I presented there last year
2010-03-05 12:35:34 [Message] linda u -> Room 1: Yes - thanks very much!
2010-03-05 12:35:45 [Message] mrsdurff -> Room 1: things sit on you
2010-03-05 12:35:45 [Message] K_Smith -> Room 1: Thanks () () () , ---- virtual clapping/applause
2010-03-05 12:35:45 [Message] DBlack -> Room 1: Yet another fabulous show. Thanks so much.
2010-03-05 12:35:51 [Message] JenM -> Room 1: thank you!

 

 



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