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Conversations Show 16 2008-11-09

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This week the show focused on the Presidential election outcome. What can we expect as educators with Barack Obama as president? Maria Knee and Lisa Parisi were joined by Michael Smith, Sylvia Tolisano, and Minhaaj ur Rehman to discuss our ideas. Chat here:http://edtechtalk.com/node/3418 2008-11-09 11:22:51 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Lisa and Maria 2008-11-09 11:26:02 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: hello minhaaj - I was worried about you - hadn't seen you around for a while 2008-11-09 11:26:21 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: sheila said she had chatted with you so i felt better 2008-11-09 11:28:20 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: I was in UAE for a while 2008-11-09 11:28:29 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: i know 2008-11-09 11:28:30 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: How are you ? 2008-11-09 11:28:39 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: any job prospects? 2008-11-09 11:28:41 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: stream should be on 2008-11-09 11:28:49 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: not yet. 2008-11-09 11:29:01 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: been busy with writing papers. 2008-11-09 11:29:11 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: presenting at a conference in sydney, Australia through skype 2008-11-09 11:29:20 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: presentations, papers, articles, pretty clogged up :) 2008-11-09 11:29:33 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Peggy 2008-11-09 11:29:41 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Minhaaj 2008-11-09 11:29:49 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: stream is coming through fine! 2008-11-09 11:30:15 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: its says here there is no stream 2008-11-09 11:30:27 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Missed your show last week-what's the topic for today? 2008-11-09 11:30:46 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: The election results for president 2008-11-09 11:30:59 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: what will be the change 2008-11-09 11:31:30 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Great to hear your voice Minhaaj. Haven't heard it in awhile. :-) 2008-11-09 11:31:40 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: hehe thanks Peggy 2008-11-09 11:32:42 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Barb and Jan 2008-11-09 11:32:53 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Lisa! 2008-11-09 11:33:12 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Barb and all 2008-11-09 11:33:16 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: Hi! Trying to get sound 2008-11-09 11:33:31 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: got it! 2008-11-09 11:34:19 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: minhaaj sound not great 2008-11-09 11:34:25 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: really ? 2008-11-09 11:34:33 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: its breaking up ? 2008-11-09 11:34:41 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: garbled -breaking up 2008-11-09 11:34:44 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: ouch there is no pete :( Michael sorry 2008-11-09 11:35:02 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: The Principal's in the House! 2008-11-09 11:35:41 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Always great to hear from another principal :-) I'm a retired elementary principal. 2008-11-09 11:35:48 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: Michael's sound is clear, minhaaj sound a bit watery 2008-11-09 11:36:35 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Could be related to problem that Minhaaj is calling from Pakistan. :-) Always so incredible to connect worldwide! 2008-11-09 11:36:38 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: switched off fan. Will check in a bit 2008-11-09 11:37:56 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: Is everyone getting sound? 2008-11-09 11:37:57 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: cool program! 2008-11-09 11:38:39 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/11/09/wish_lists_piling_... very interesting article in Boston Globe-Wish lists piling up for Obama :-) Great web 2.0 use of technology! 2008-11-09 11:39:04 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: what?! LOL! 2008-11-09 11:39:08 [Message] principalspage -> -EdTechTalk: sounds fine to me 2008-11-09 11:40:21 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Do you think teachers should encourage students to add their ideas to the wish list? 2008-11-09 11:40:57 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: I am pretty surprised at the staff reaction--seems unprofessional to me. 2008-11-09 11:41:03 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: that was true at my school too. No announcement. But lots of talking amoung students. 2008-11-09 11:41:04 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: it seems to me to ask kindergarteners to make electoral college predictions is going over their heads a little bit. 2008-11-09 11:41:12 [Message] principalspage -> -EdTechTalk: yes, yes, yes, yes 2008-11-09 11:42:01 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: Canadian kids were following your election closely. 2008-11-09 11:42:21 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: We did the Weekly Reader Election and my 3rd graders voted for McCain, but it was very close. 2008-11-09 11:42:50 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: sounds like a great opportunity to teach students about the importance of supporting decisions they may not agree with whether in school, workplace, etc. 2008-11-09 11:43:09 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: suburban Philadelphia here, our school voted for Obama 2008-11-09 11:43:22 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: I never did share my choice with my students. I told them that it's still a secret ballot 2008-11-09 11:43:33 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: Dan, I am proud of the Pennsylvanians 2008-11-09 11:44:00 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: it was nice to vote for the winning team for a change 2008-11-09 11:44:42 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: I don't even share my choice with telephone pollsters - i say that it's my right to keep my choice to myself. 2008-11-09 11:44:47 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: @barb, I think it is essential that we maintain that integrity esp. in elementary. It is appropriate in upper high to share your biases. 2008-11-09 11:44:53 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: @dan and my vote acutally counted in the electoral vote for me. Nebraska split their electoral votes this year. 2008-11-09 11:45:34 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: @jan I also teach at a Catholic school and many fellow Catholics felt I could only vote for McCain. 2008-11-09 11:46:00 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: the overall catholic vote went to obama this time around. major shift. 2008-11-09 11:46:12 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: Barb..you really had some issues choosing a side publically. 2008-11-09 11:46:38 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: @barb, that discussion among adults is important, but our influence is very strong as teachers. 2008-11-09 11:46:38 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: i refused to share with students whom I was voting for. 2008-11-09 11:46:44 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: middle school 2008-11-09 11:47:19 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: fortunately I'm such a politics nerd that I can argue for or against either at the drop of a hat, so they couldn't peg me down. :) 2008-11-09 11:48:18 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: my district is incredibly diverse, so I agree that it really sends a powerful message to our students 2008-11-09 11:48:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think the message you are targeting, Lisa, is so important! You can be anything you want to be. 2008-11-09 11:48:28 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: @Lisa, I don't want to relieve those days before the election where I was bullied by some Catholics on Plurk. :( 2008-11-09 11:48:32 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: @dan, @barb, I often use "some people think...other people think..." when discussing issues like politics, abortion, capital punishment...followed by "this is where our gvernment/law is, now what do you think?" 2008-11-09 11:49:42 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: That's true, didn't talk much about education 2008-11-09 11:49:55 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think the candidates WERE talking about education but mainstream media wasn't covering it 2008-11-09 11:49:56 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: I only knew that Barack's sister is a teacher 2008-11-09 11:49:58 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: I think an important point for us to drive home, though, is that Obama made it where he is because he was smart and worked hard. he needed that drive to win, he went to harvard law. you can become anything you want if you work hard enough. 2008-11-09 11:50:01 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: do the obama girls go to a private school currently 2008-11-09 11:50:03 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: Aren't they at a Charter school? 2008-11-09 11:50:13 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: they go to the University of Chicago lab school. exclusive, private. 2008-11-09 11:50:15 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: 5th grade teacher in trouble for Political lesson: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6494652 2008-11-09 11:50:18 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: Maybe the girls will go to St Albans 2008-11-09 11:51:31 [Message] wsigele -> -EdTechTalk: didn't Lucy Gray work at that Lab school? 2008-11-09 11:51:41 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: yes, Lucy did 2008-11-09 11:51:49 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: @lisa, that seems like quite a conflict. 2008-11-09 11:51:58 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Parents have to be advocates for their own children, politics aside. 2008-11-09 11:52:17 [Message] wsigele -> -EdTechTalk: there are a lot of charter schools in the city of chicago 2008-11-09 11:52:43 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Very well said, Maria!! We're on the same wave length! 2008-11-09 11:52:46 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: oops! St Alban is an all boys school! 2008-11-09 11:52:46 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: @jansmith I understand the conflict but really want was is best for my daughter. 2008-11-09 11:52:57 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: If the public system is not good enough for their kids, what does that say about the nation's children? 2008-11-09 11:53:01 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: i went to a private high school. it was my decision. i figure, assuming i can afford it, I will offer the same to my children. 2008-11-09 11:53:20 [Message] wsigele -> -EdTechTalk: and the school system/buildings are going through major overhaul here in chicago 2008-11-09 11:53:42 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: CNN story telling the Republican party how they need to get web savy. 2008-11-09 11:54:28 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: I went to public school, my sister went to private - it depends what is best at the time and place 2008-11-09 11:54:37 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: Maybe they will go to Sidwell Friends, a quaker school. 2008-11-09 11:54:44 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: What percentage of American kids are in private schools? 2008-11-09 11:54:52 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: He used world 'Morally Unacceptable' for public school 2008-11-09 11:54:56 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: word* 2008-11-09 11:55:07 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: so probably he doesn't like it and he'd address it, atleast publicly :) 2008-11-09 11:55:45 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: Everyone was too busy talking about the economy! 2008-11-09 11:56:06 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: There was a great education debate sponsored by EdWeek with a follow-up panel on the issues. Very informative. 2008-11-09 11:56:40 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: meow! 2008-11-09 11:56:46 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: ;) 2008-11-09 11:56:46 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: the kitty is adorable 2008-11-09 11:57:00 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: That kitty sounds hungry 2008-11-09 11:57:06 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.edweek.org/ew/collections/campaign08/mm_coverage.html education debate can be viewed here 2008-11-09 11:57:39 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: a very real problem for the Democratic party is two conflicting PoVs on NCLB. Teachers unions hate it, but Civil Rights groups are generally in favor of it 2008-11-09 11:59:08 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Obama's style will be to seek input for decisions about change to NCLB 2008-11-09 12:00:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: http://change.gov/ This is Obama's site that is seeking input on all agendas. We should use it to express our priorities. 2008-11-09 12:01:13 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: am I the only one who feels that knowing facts seems underrated these days? 2008-11-09 12:01:36 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: change.gov is a great place to give your ideas to the new admin. 2008-11-09 12:01:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I definitely agree with you Dan! 2008-11-09 12:01:54 [Message] shouldbeworking -> -EdTechTalk: here, here, Maria...stop pushing down the curriculum! 2008-11-09 12:01:56 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Opinions abound, but facts are often lacking 2008-11-09 12:02:25 [Message] shouldbeworking -> -EdTechTalk: let's stay developmentally appropriate 2008-11-09 12:02:30 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: knowing facts are the basis for good decisions and opinions! 2008-11-09 12:03:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: interesting point, Michael. When people are polled they tend to say their own school is fine but the problems are in other schools. 2008-11-09 12:04:10 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: I have 2 classes of 4 years olds at my school 2008-11-09 12:04:15 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: More @ 4 2008-11-09 12:05:15 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: people at my school complain a lt about NCLB, but, on the other hand, we made AYP for the first time this year. our instructional model is definitely better, and that's because of NCLB. 2008-11-09 12:05:54 [Message] Sarah S -> -EdTechTalk: Absolutely! Age does't equate with academic level. Teach the individual student not the concept of where a generic "student" is at any given point. 2008-11-09 12:06:20 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I've been following an interesting discussion on an educadtion listserv about education reform--some teachers feel that their job is to teach what is prescribed and not question or advocate for change that would improve education. What do you think? 2008-11-09 12:07:13 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: they're absolutely correct in that's their job. it's what they get paid to do. but if they care about their profession, I hope they'll choose to do the latter. 2008-11-09 12:07:18 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: I fight for change each and every day 2008-11-09 12:07:38 [Message] shouldbeworking -> -EdTechTalk: I hate when the focus in only on test prep...it's a shame. 2008-11-09 12:07:38 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG How can we teach kids to be innovators and inventors if we don't model it? 2008-11-09 12:07:50 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I taught in an elementary lab school back in the early 70's where children entered school on their birthday and advanced through the grades/curriculum as they were ready, not at the end of the year. 2008-11-09 12:08:14 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: this is true, it will take time. I don't expect huge changes for the first 2 years. 2008-11-09 12:08:49 [Message] wsigele -> -EdTechTalk: I went to a lab school in the 70's also 2008-11-09 12:09:17 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @Scott-I agree with you and always welcomed teachers who were seeking better ways to reach kids. 2008-11-09 12:09:24 [Message] langwitches -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you for having me. I am so sorry but will have to run 2008-11-09 12:09:49 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: thanks silvia - talk to you soon, I hope 2008-11-09 12:10:56 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: staff issues like their dress? lol 2008-11-09 12:11:15 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: I remember your hot topic of dress code for teachers. 2008-11-09 12:11:23 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: we all know money could be spent better in schools. I have seen many emails from teachers who say they have been given X number of dollars they have to spend before the end of the year--what should they spend it on? 2008-11-09 12:11:53 [Message] dancallahan -> -EdTechTalk: ok, have to go eat some lunch. great talking with you all! hit me @dancallahan on Twitter if you aren't following me already. i promise to follow you back :) 2008-11-09 12:12:11 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: Bye Dan..thanks for coming 2008-11-09 12:12:15 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: AZ schools all have open enrollment--isn't that true in other states? 2008-11-09 12:12:42 [Message] principalspage -> -EdTechTalk: not in Illinois... I would love to have that 2008-11-09 12:13:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Maybe Illinois could look at the AZ policy/regulation to consider it :-) 2008-11-09 12:13:51 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Former Chicago Schools Super. Arnie Duncan is in the running for Obama's Ed. Secretary. 2008-11-09 12:13:52 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: They don't GET to go or they don't WANT to go - big difference 2008-11-09 12:13:54 [Message] wsigele -> -EdTechTalk: I also know of teachers who don't ever WANT to go to conferences. What is up with THAT? 2008-11-09 12:14:00 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: no tenue at my Catholic school! 2008-11-09 12:14:14 [Message] wsigele -> -EdTechTalk: Absolutely! @Cathy E!! 2008-11-09 12:14:39 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: @wsigele we are on the same wave length haha 2008-11-09 12:14:46 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: @wsigele It's a pain to get ready for a sub, but it's worth it for me! 2008-11-09 12:15:12 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @wsigele-that's such an important point! I was at an edtech conference yesterday and at lunch someone asked me why I was there since I had already retired. 2008-11-09 12:15:13 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: I also have to find my own sub when I go to a conference or I"m sick. 2008-11-09 12:15:44 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Are good subs that hard to find? 2008-11-09 12:16:08 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: I just want to be paid for the time I put in...then $$ would not be an issue - I could pay my bills 2008-11-09 12:16:22 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: This is the first time we are having issues with good subs. 2008-11-09 12:16:22 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: @Scott, some days! 2008-11-09 12:17:07 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: @shelia - everybody want to be a sub here now, cause so many people have lost jobs 2008-11-09 12:17:44 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Subbing is what pushed me over the edge to a career change. 2008-11-09 12:17:53 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: @CathyE - I was wondering if that was going to happen, but not yet. 2008-11-09 12:18:02 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I must admit that I've seen some NAD subs 2008-11-09 12:18:07 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: BAD 2008-11-09 12:19:15 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Yes, Maria, environment is very important for me too. 2008-11-09 12:20:39 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: @LisaP Is your district that shallow that they don't value your experience? 2008-11-09 12:20:39 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: In my former district, principals did not get tenure and they did not have a pay scale with steps. Advanced degrees such as doctorate did not result in higher pay. 2008-11-09 12:21:40 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I don't think principals/administrators should be tenured. 2008-11-09 12:22:10 [Message] principalspage -> -EdTechTalk: I think my call got disconnected 2008-11-09 12:22:22 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: Can we clone him 2008-11-09 12:23:58 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: we definitely need major changes in education but I don't think all educators agree on what the changes should be. Do you? 2008-11-09 12:24:02 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: @scott...it wouldn't be an administrator decision..taxpayers would make the decision whether or not I should stay 2008-11-09 12:24:48 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: I worry about his safety 2008-11-09 12:24:56 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: I do too Cathy 2008-11-09 12:24:58 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: and his family 2008-11-09 12:24:59 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: @LisaP That's a bum deal. 2008-11-09 12:25:13 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: The Secret Service doesn't read statistics but I think their have been many threats on his life. 2008-11-09 12:25:17 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: There are crazy people out there 2008-11-09 12:25:20 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: *release* 2008-11-09 12:25:24 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: @scott I think that is the reality of voters voting on school budgets 2008-11-09 12:25:25 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: all presidents age significantly while in office! 2008-11-09 12:25:53 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: 2 local high school students were suspended for 2 days for discussions like that in their government class. 2008-11-09 12:26:10 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: @LisaP I'll keep that in mind when I'm looking for a teaching job. :-) 2008-11-09 12:26:14 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: As an outsider I wonder about his safety more because he is liberal-minded than because of his skin colour; 2008-11-09 12:26:35 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: @jan...I don't think that's a concern...race is much more of a concern 2008-11-09 12:27:29 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: @Jan - I think that's a part of it too. 2008-11-09 12:28:33 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Why run for Prez? The same reason people become teachers. It's not the $$ or the recognition....it's a calling 2008-11-09 12:28:38 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: When I look at the assinations that happened in the US, it looks like what a leader/influencer believed was the lightening rod, more than colour 2008-11-09 12:29:10 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: Yes Scott - it is a calling 2008-11-09 12:30:10 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: I thought he looked tired on election night, during that amazing speech--with the weight on him. 2008-11-09 12:30:29 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: They are both left handed 2008-11-09 12:30:53 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: Bush surrounded himself with like minded people that wouldn't chanllenge him 2008-11-09 12:31:06 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Interesting observation Barb. both left handed :-) 2008-11-09 12:31:16 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: And that's true in teaching! 2008-11-09 12:31:30 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: I look for people who challenge me. 2008-11-09 12:31:53 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: I heard Joe Biden tell a 3rd grade reporter that he will challenge Obama. 2008-11-09 12:32:05 [Message] wsigele -> -EdTechTalk: press spoke a lot about the left-handed comonalities of many past presidents 2008-11-09 12:33:10 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: Thank You everyone :) 2008-11-09 12:33:18 [Message] principalspage -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks... I enjoyed it. 2008-11-09 12:33:18 [Message] minhaaj -> -EdTechTalk: great discussion in the chat box 2008-11-09 12:33:25 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Excellent point Michael! People want change. Howie DiBlasi's keynote at our conference yesterday started with "change is needed...you go first." 2008-11-09 12:33:38 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: ettconversations.blogspot.com 2008-11-09 12:33:45 [Message] principalspage -> -EdTechTalk: Funny... I am going to use that one day!! 2008-11-09 12:33:47 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: I heard Howie speak last April. He was very good. 2008-11-09 12:33:47 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Good quote! 2008-11-09 12:33:50 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: Maria you are so wise 2008-11-09 12:33:55 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks all for another interesting conversation! 2008-11-09 12:34:00 [Message] jan smith -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks all! 2008-11-09 12:34:00 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks guys! 2008-11-09 12:34:08 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you all for coming. 2008-11-09 12:34:08 [Message] wsigele -> -EdTechTalk: thanks again everyone! Always enlightening! 2008-11-09 12:34:21 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for the Plurk and Twitter reminders 2008-11-09 12:34:43 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you to all! 2008-11-09 12:34:56 [Message] wsigele -> -EdTechTalk: Totally energized before but moreso after a conference!!! 2008-11-09 12:35:16 [Message] MariaK -> -EdTechTalk: @Cathy - Thank you and I miss talking to you. 2008-11-09 12:35:18 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: That's going to be a good topic! 2008-11-09 12:35:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That will be a great topic next week! 2008-11-09 12:35:25 [Message] BarbInNebraska -> -EdTechTalk: bye! 2008-11-09 12:35:40 [Message] Cathy E -> -EdTechTalk: ya'll are awesome 2008-11-09 12:35:56 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: nice job as always 2008-11-09 12:36:35 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> -EdTechTalk: See you all next week.