Parents as Partners Episode #12 October 6, 2008
Lornacos - Thu, 2008-10-09 05:14
Post-Show description:
Dean Shareski, Digital Learning Consultant from Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, Canada shares his presentation Going Global with hosts Matt Montagne, Lorna Costantini, Cindy Seibel and resident parent CIndy Zuatcke. What was interesting in the discussions is Dean's approach to the subject of children and the internet. He finds it more relevant to emphasize the positive aspects of digital tools, the need for good examples of digital citizenship and not predatprs and safety on the internet. An excellent resource for Principal, administrators,teachers and parentsStreaming difficulties appeared through out the hour webcast. The recording for this show has had numerous edits one of which is the removal of Matt Montagne. Matt's terrific comments and question could not be heard. Dean's message and ideas are still clear. Enjoy listening to the show and his presentation here . You can find Dean Shareski at his blog www.ideasandthoughts.org
Chat Log
2008-10-06 21:01:19 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: can you hear us peggy
2008-10-06 21:01:27 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes I'm hearing now
2008-10-06 21:01:57 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: lost the stream briefly but I can hear everything now
2008-10-06 21:02:43 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: it was very clear before but now an echo
2008-10-06 21:01:57 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: lost the stream briefly but I can hear everything now
2008-10-06 21:02:43 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: it was very clear before but now an echo
2008-10-06 21:03:43 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: how about now?
2008-10-06 21:03:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: hearing sighs and deep breathing :-)
2008-10-06 21:03:55 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: audio good
2008-10-06 21:04:00 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi dave
2008-10-06 21:04:09 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: that's better Lorna
2008-10-06 21:04:13 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: pensive?
2008-10-06 21:04:31 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Hello again
2008-10-06 21:04:45 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: is audio OK?
2008-10-06 21:04:57 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: great troubleshooting!!
2008-10-06 21:04:59 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: we all have to quit meeting like this
2008-10-06 21:06:04 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: incredible to know we can all connect from so many different locations!
2008-10-06 21:06:41 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I appreciate the background intro for the webcast!
2008-10-06 21:06:46 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Peggy! Jeff and Dave would b proud!!!
2008-10-06 21:07:02 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: doing a fine job
2008-10-06 21:07:11 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: and of course our webcast academy teachers Derral and Pam!
2008-10-06 21:07:20 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: Go Vikingss
2008-10-06 21:07:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm curious-do you call it a webcast if you participate live and a podcast if you listen later to the archived version?
2008-10-06 21:08:19 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: crickets chirp :-)
2008-10-06 21:08:25 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: nothing more important on TV than Parents as Partners :-)
2008-10-06 21:08:57 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: esteemed?
2008-10-06 21:09:32 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Am I the only one not hearing anyone talk?
2008-10-06 21:09:46 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: no...I don't hear anyone either...
2008-10-06 21:09:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: definitely esteemed! we have to read his mind though-not hearing him yet
2008-10-06 21:10:47 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: there he comes!
2008-10-06 21:10:56 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: why do i hear silence?
2008-10-06 21:11:04 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Matt keeps cutting out :-(
2008-10-06 21:11:05 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi dean
2008-10-06 21:11:11 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: i here him
2008-10-06 21:11:11 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: just heard a bit...now gone
2008-10-06 21:11:11 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: AnCan anyone hear Matt?
2008-10-06 21:11:20 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Heard him for a few seconds...
2008-10-06 21:11:21 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi derralll
2008-10-06 21:11:25 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: Hi again Lisa
2008-10-06 21:11:34 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: hi mrsdurff
2008-10-06 21:11:35 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: only stepped out to make coffee
2008-10-06 21:11:41 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: and they are gone
2008-10-06 21:11:43 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: r we still breaking up
2008-10-06 21:11:46 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: coming in and out
2008-10-06 21:11:51 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: yes!
2008-10-06 21:11:54 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes still breaking up
2008-10-06 21:12:10 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: breaking up
2008-10-06 21:12:57 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/07/17/podcast-40-going-global-going-pub...
2008-10-06 21:13:09 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Link to Dean's Post on Goiing Global, Going Public
2008-10-06 21:14:45 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: really levels the playing field between rural and urban
2008-10-06 21:14:51 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: k12onlineconference.org
2008-10-06 21:14:53 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: sure Dean-you have the floor!
2008-10-06 21:16:53 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Lorna / Matt ...I'm only hearing Dean now
2008-10-06 21:17:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: me too-quiet right now
2008-10-06 21:17:39 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: can you hear matt?
2008-10-06 21:17:43 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: no
2008-10-06 21:17:53 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I can hear something but it is VERY faint.
2008-10-06 21:17:54 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: now can hear Cindy I think-not Matt
2008-10-06 21:19:12 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: is Matt fringing from his Iphone :)
2008-10-06 21:19:25 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: you can't hear my penny??
2008-10-06 21:19:33 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: no not really
2008-10-06 21:19:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: sorry-can't hear Matt-Dean comes through very clearly
2008-10-06 21:19:46 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: Can't hear you matt just dean
2008-10-06 21:19:50 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: only dean and cindy
2008-10-06 21:19:53 [Message] hbelow -> -EdTechTalk: Just started hearing Matt again.
2008-10-06 21:20:04 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: there's matt
2008-10-06 21:20:30 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I don't know who I"m listening to anymore :(
2008-10-06 21:20:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Dean right now-Shareski
2008-10-06 21:21:26 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: wow! interesting story!
2008-10-06 21:21:59 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Lorna / Matt - FYI the ETT Live page has this show as "WOW 2.0" right now.
2008-10-06 21:22:03 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: short course for principals--what a great idea!
2008-10-06 21:22:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes can hear Lorna
2008-10-06 21:23:03 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: and Cindy so Matt is the only problem
2008-10-06 21:23:14 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: will be sharing that slideshare with my principal
2008-10-06 21:23:19 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: I got out altogether and reentered...can hear all but Matt now
2008-10-06 21:24:20 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: K
2008-10-06 21:24:32 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks jeannine
2008-10-06 21:24:49 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: what are some strategies you use to keep a positive attitude and keep trying to move forward when faced with this backlash and negativity?
2008-10-06 21:25:39 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Link to the article that Cindy just referenced:
2008-10-06 21:25:41 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: Can they guide if they don't even know/use these tools
2008-10-06 21:25:55 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: beware, it is a pdf file...
2008-10-06 21:26:09 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.apa.org/journals/releases/amp632111.pdf
2008-10-06 21:26:24 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.wiredsafety.org/wiredlearning/iaf/predators1/
2008-10-06 21:27:10 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: what do you use for resources and research with principals who want to know where's the research to support improved student achievement with technology?
2008-10-06 21:27:34 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy, excellent question. I was asked that TODAY!!!
2008-10-06 21:29:03 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Larry Magid, one of the presenters at the Yahoo Conference, said, "99.9% of the things that kids are doing online are good"
2008-10-06 21:29:26 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: It's hard to teach or model how to be a good netizen if you don't do it yourself in some way shape or form.
2008-10-06 21:29:31 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'd really like some suggestions-I've found a few things but so much of the evidence is anecdotal in blogs and wikis.
2008-10-06 21:29:39 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy...here's one....http://news.becta.org.uk/display.cfm?resID=38417
2008-10-06 21:29:41 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @DAVEC...great point...
2008-10-06 21:29:49 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: what models do our kids have??
2008-10-06 21:29:58 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: so how do you get administration to try??
2008-10-06 21:30:25 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: when the ATA encouraged teachers to stay off facebook?
2008-10-06 21:30:51 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: ARe adults the best role models for digital communications?? Look at the comments on CNN, NYTIMES articles...many are highly offensive, rascist, homophobic, etc...and they're posted by adults!!
2008-10-06 21:30:53 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: OH, the media....arg. Can you imagine if the media was like it is now back when the phone was invented? "You could dial a wrong number and reach someone you don't know!!!"
2008-10-06 21:31:31 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @Dave... :) lol
2008-10-06 21:31:40 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Dean can you send that link again? got a not found error
2008-10-06 21:31:55 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I'll get that link
2008-10-06 21:32:11 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: i agree with the filters
2008-10-06 21:32:20 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: Another set of resources for kids, parents, teachers: http://www.youthlinkcalgary.com
2008-10-06 21:32:22 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Worst book on Internet and kids: Internet Protect Your Kids by Arterburn and Marsh. Actually makes up predator stories to make their point that the internet is unsafe. ARGHGHGH!
2008-10-06 21:32:26 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: wish i could hear others
2008-10-06 21:32:37 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: filters frustrate teachers who want to access resources
2008-10-06 21:32:39 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.wiredsafety.org/wiredlearning/iaf/predators1/
2008-10-06 21:33:03 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: kids may live in a filtered environment at school but what about home
2008-10-06 21:33:14 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: would be great if they learned skills at both places
2008-10-06 21:33:19 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that link worked for me-it was the link from Becta that didn't work
2008-10-06 21:33:41 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @penny...I've said that all along...it makes the adults at school feel good to tell everyone that "we keep the kidds safe...we have a filter"
2008-10-06 21:34:02 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: who helps the parents who don't know how to help filter
2008-10-06 21:34:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: such important points about filtering--so true!
2008-10-06 21:34:11 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I have to say that it is really cool to work at a school that doesn't filter
2008-10-06 21:34:45 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: I can't shelter my kids from everything -- I have to give them the skills to fillter themselves
2008-10-06 21:35:12 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: show administrators the link to the article from the American Psychologist...it really dispells the predator issue...
2008-10-06 21:35:46 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: Google yourself is a great strategy to help people see their digital breadcrumbs
2008-10-06 21:36:20 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.sarahwynne.name/about.php
2008-10-06 21:36:28 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: does that backfire when they google themselves?
2008-10-06 21:38:06 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I am at a school where about 15percent of kids don't have access to a computer outside of school. A parent told me that they didn't want their child in a podcast because someone might find a picture and use photoshop to remove their clothes. That's what the media teaches.
2008-10-06 21:38:13 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I read a powerful email from a local HS student yesterday where she very articulately requested a specific site be unblocked so she could do her research project. It was so persuasive the IMT director unblocked the site :-)
2008-10-06 21:38:26 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: So far my favorite book on kids and the internet: CyberSafe Kids, CyberSavvy Teens: Helping Young People Learn to Use the Internet Safely and Responsibly by Nancy E. Willard.
2008-10-06 21:38:49 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: it was interesting to hear folks talk about cyber bullying as the next big issue of adult techno-panic...they didn't minimize the issue, but they also worked to keep in perspective
2008-10-06 21:39:05 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I really like Nancy Willard's work! She is very persuasive!
2008-10-06 21:39:17 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @Cindy...I heard her speak last Friday...
2008-10-06 21:39:37 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.nbc5.com/news/15122267/detail.html
2008-10-06 21:40:36 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://middleschoolblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/yahoo-digital-citizenship-s...
2008-10-06 21:40:57 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I think nanci willard speaks about 20 minutes into the recording at the link I just sent
2008-10-06 21:41:20 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: still have a teacher that can't really use email
2008-10-06 21:41:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for sharing that Matt-I've never heard her speak but I bought her book!
2008-10-06 21:41:40 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://flickr.com/photos/mcleod/2919154621/in/pool-858082@N25
2008-10-06 21:42:16 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: HILARIOUS dean!!
2008-10-06 21:42:21 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Great photo! That could stimulate some very interesting conversations!
2008-10-06 21:43:04 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: So how can parents help out?
2008-10-06 21:43:11 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I love that photo, trying to figure out if I can use it in a presentation on how to get teachers to participate (or at least listen) to some of the k12online conference.
2008-10-06 21:43:16 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: What is the fear on the school's part for letting us help?
2008-10-06 21:44:00 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: call was lost - hopefully back soon!
2008-10-06 21:44:13 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: we can keep the chat going
2008-10-06 21:44:19 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hold up... brb!
2008-10-06 21:44:54 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Good idea! What books have chat other people read that they like or dislike?
2008-10-06 21:44:59 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: Here's a set of photos I've started on learning and change
2008-10-06 21:45:03 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: I'm wondering about what we can learn from when we needed to street-proof our kids - that was a new concept at the time too
2008-10-06 21:45:04 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://flickr.com/groups/858082@N25/pool/
2008-10-06 21:45:37 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: sorry about that...
2008-10-06 21:45:41 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: we should b back
2008-10-06 21:45:57 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome back.
2008-10-06 21:46:17 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Did anyone see the new Flickr links that Dean created for quotes and ideas with photos? They are fantastic and remind me of the first photo.
2008-10-06 21:46:25 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://primarypreoccupation.wordpress.com/
2008-10-06 21:46:30 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Dean you beat me to it! Thanks! Those are fantastic!!
2008-10-06 21:46:51 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Great blog post--parents as digital citizens. I'll think about that!
2008-10-06 21:47:57 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: would be a good post -- will look forward to it!!
2008-10-06 21:49:04 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: it's great just to know what to ask at the supper table
2008-10-06 21:51:22 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Penny, I used to post "conversation starters" for parents to ask their students about things we did during the day.
2008-10-06 21:51:33 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: WOW! The district invested in domain names!
2008-10-06 21:51:42 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Purchasing domain names for their students...really great idea...
2008-10-06 21:51:56 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: @DAveC where did you post the conversation starters for parents? school website?
2008-10-06 21:52:09 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: On my homework page and blog.
2008-10-06 21:52:14 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @Dave -- that's fantastic -- just what most parents want
2008-10-06 21:52:16 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: These are really good too--"interesting snippets" http://news.becta.org.uk/display.cfm?resID=38417
2008-10-06 21:52:49 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @Dave -- probably would get more involvement than just sending homework
2008-10-06 21:53:00 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: ThingsIFoundInMyBellyButton.com is available...
2008-10-06 21:53:22 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Cindy's blog is a great example of a parent blog
2008-10-06 21:53:31 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: THanks Matt :)
2008-10-06 21:53:36 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://livingontheline.wordpress.com/
2008-10-06 21:53:47 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: That is the link to Cindy's blog...
2008-10-06 21:54:29 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: As a teacher, when I read Cindy's blog, I become more aware of the busy lives of a typical family...
2008-10-06 21:54:45 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Interesting example--can a fat person teach PE?
2008-10-06 21:55:19 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: practice what you teach?
2008-10-06 21:56:31 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @penny-not sure if it's practice what you teach--maybe practice what you should be teaching :-)
2008-10-06 21:56:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: LOL
2008-10-06 21:57:06 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.prairiesouth.ca/images/stories/miscellaneous/techgraphic.jpg
2008-10-06 21:57:16 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy -- you are right how do you even know what to teach till you practice it?
2008-10-06 21:57:51 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes- and they may not even be using technology themselves
2008-10-06 21:58:15 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I like that visual! great discussion starter!
2008-10-06 22:00:03 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: if Matt's talking I can't hear him :-(
2008-10-06 22:00:19 [Message] hbelow -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for the informative hour! Would love to hear how people have dealt with cyber bullying.
2008-10-06 22:01:02 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Come listen on November 3--we'll be talking about bullying programs, including issues around cyber-bullying.
2008-10-06 22:01:05 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: can we do a followup show? this has been so helpful to hear how Dean approaches this
2008-10-06 22:01:17 [Message] Brian -> -EdTechTalk: did anyone record today's session?
2008-10-06 22:01:22 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: would love to pick dean's brain further
2008-10-06 22:01:35 [Message] Brian -> -EdTechTalk: i had to take care of my 2 yr old for half the time :(
2008-10-06 22:01:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: me too!!
2008-10-06 22:01:40 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Yes--Matt is archiving it.
2008-10-06 22:01:47 [Message] Brian -> -EdTechTalk: kk thx
2008-10-06 22:02:03 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: Archived sessions on http://ourschool.ca
2008-10-06 22:02:31 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: change won't come if someone doesn't push
2008-10-06 22:02:35 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Oops! I said Oct 21--it's Oct. 20 for the next program.
2008-10-06 22:03:17 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Churchill: I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
2008-10-06 22:03:29 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks DaveC
2008-10-06 22:03:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks all! very interesting conversation!
2008-10-06 22:03:53 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: time is too short as always
2008-10-06 22:04:04 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: great show, thanks
2008-10-06 22:04:10 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Lorna
2008-10-06 22:04:49 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: thanks great show
2008-10-06 22:04:59 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the stream was coming through fine but the connection with Matt seemed to be a problem
2008-10-06 22:05:12 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: Matt was the only problem on my end too
2008-10-06 22:05:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: you should talk more about your K12online preso on your show :-)
2008-10-06 22:06:02 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy, seconded!
2008-10-06 22:06:26 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: it sounds like a pecha kucha presentation--is that 20 slides, 5 minutes?
2008-10-06 22:06:36 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: :-)
2008-10-06 22:06:37 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: What would be the best way to cheerlead k12 online in the school -- from a parent!!
2008-10-06 22:07:20 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: there is a flyer you can post if that would help. Wes shared it on the earlier show today
2008-10-06 22:07:32 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Where are the flyers? I couldn't find them.
2008-10-06 22:08:21 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: will have to do something more personal than that -- but I don't want to seem like I am telling them what they should do...
2008-10-06 22:08:35 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: just hi-lite an opportunity
2008-10-06 22:09:24 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=231
2008-10-06 22:09:40 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Dean-I couldn't find the link
2008-10-06 22:10:42 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks!
2008-10-06 22:10:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @penny-I love the concept of the Lan parties where a small group of people come together in someone's living room to watch a presentation or two and talk about it.
2008-10-06 22:11:35 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: you could invite a small group of parents to come and watch something you select that would be timely :-)
2008-10-06 22:11:36 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: Would the presentations be such that parents and teachers should/could watch together ??
2008-10-06 22:11:48 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: thinking same thing same time
2008-10-06 22:12:02 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: certainly the parents as partners would be excellent
2008-10-06 22:12:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: absolutely! and you don't have to view them "live" so you can preview and select an appropriate topic
2008-10-06 22:12:18 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: @Penny....I'm sure some would be, particularly the keynotes
2008-10-06 22:12:55 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: my luck it'll all be blocked at the school ;)
2008-10-06 22:13:42 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Penny, I think that's a great idea. Biggest problem I've had has been with taxpayers who complain that things were good enough for them 35 years ago, it's good enough now.
2008-10-06 22:14:14 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: maybe you can hold it away from school :-)
2008-10-06 22:14:23 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: (NOTE: I didn't say "parents", I've heard it from a variety of community members)
2008-10-06 22:14:44 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @DaveC--yes! I've heard it from teachers too!
2008-10-06 22:15:01 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: is Matt talking?
2008-10-06 22:15:05 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: Always have access to the community library -- may have to scheme
2008-10-06 22:15:10 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I think I hear someone breathing.
2008-10-06 22:15:45 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Maybe a small, local eatery to keep it really casual
2008-10-06 22:16:06 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: even some of the presentations that show some exciting things being done with technology in schools could be excellent for parents/teachers to watch together and discuss.
2008-10-06 22:16:45 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: sorry I can't b heard!!! Rats!
2008-10-06 22:16:48 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: a small eatery wouldn't have internet -- we are small small town -- we'd cause a real buzz if we did that
2008-10-06 22:17:00 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: food is good! Jeff Utecht did some pizza and beer Lan parties last year :-) can't do that at school
2008-10-06 22:17:11 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: now we're talking
2008-10-06 22:18:18 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: if you have wireless access at someone's home you could even do it in the back yard and have a BBQ or potluck and eat and talk
2008-10-06 22:18:36 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: I am going to work on this -- we have parent council coming up -- supposed to be a parent tech night -- but no parents have been asked to be involved in what is happening -- maybe soon...
2008-10-06 22:19:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: we did it last year in someone's home who had wireless access and it worked great! we're planning to do it again. Small group--maybe 8 people
2008-10-06 22:20:18 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: I think the school should give them time to attend -- but maybe next time after they see the value that might happen
2008-10-06 22:20:25 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy, a wireless lan party.
2008-10-06 22:21:02 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes :-) We actually called it a LaWN party to keep the word Lan in it
2008-10-06 22:21:17 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Penny, it would be great if that could happen. For us, it is happening at 8:00am.
2008-10-06 22:21:45 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: what's happening at 8:00am? everything is archived and can be viewed anytime
2008-10-06 22:21:55 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: Maybe we'll (parents) throw them a k-12 online party -- show that we support them!
2008-10-06 22:22:22 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Doh.
2008-10-06 22:22:25 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I knew that.
2008-10-06 22:22:28 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @penny-great idea! do it :-) It would be fun!
2008-10-06 22:23:08 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Anyone know when the fireside chats are going to be?
2008-10-06 22:23:19 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: it is just really nervewracking as a parent to tread into that domain
2008-10-06 22:23:20 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that's such a great point Dean! keep promoting everything!
2008-10-06 22:24:10 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the fireside chat times aren't posted yet but will be soon
2008-10-06 22:24:57 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: We're running into issues with allowing anyone in the classroom who hasn't been fingerprinted first due to FERPA.
2008-10-06 22:24:59 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: wonderful show AND post-show conversation Lorna! Thanks!
2008-10-06 22:25:04 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Although I don't know what the fingerprinting part has to do with it...
2008-10-06 22:25:20 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Dean!!!!
2008-10-06 22:25:24 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: night all.
2008-10-06 22:25:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Night everyone
2008-10-06 22:26:23 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: night guys -- great show
2008-10-06 21:03:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: hearing sighs and deep breathing :-)
2008-10-06 21:03:55 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: audio good
2008-10-06 21:04:00 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi dave
2008-10-06 21:04:09 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: that's better Lorna
2008-10-06 21:04:13 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: pensive?
2008-10-06 21:04:31 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Hello again
2008-10-06 21:04:45 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: is audio OK?
2008-10-06 21:04:57 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: great troubleshooting!!
2008-10-06 21:04:59 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: we all have to quit meeting like this
2008-10-06 21:06:04 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: incredible to know we can all connect from so many different locations!
2008-10-06 21:06:41 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I appreciate the background intro for the webcast!
2008-10-06 21:06:46 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Peggy! Jeff and Dave would b proud!!!
2008-10-06 21:07:02 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: doing a fine job
2008-10-06 21:07:11 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: and of course our webcast academy teachers Derral and Pam!
2008-10-06 21:07:20 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: Go Vikingss
2008-10-06 21:07:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm curious-do you call it a webcast if you participate live and a podcast if you listen later to the archived version?
2008-10-06 21:08:19 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: crickets chirp :-)
2008-10-06 21:08:25 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: nothing more important on TV than Parents as Partners :-)
2008-10-06 21:08:57 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: esteemed?
2008-10-06 21:09:32 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Am I the only one not hearing anyone talk?
2008-10-06 21:09:46 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: no...I don't hear anyone either...
2008-10-06 21:09:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: definitely esteemed! we have to read his mind though-not hearing him yet
2008-10-06 21:10:47 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: there he comes!
2008-10-06 21:10:56 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: why do i hear silence?
2008-10-06 21:11:04 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Matt keeps cutting out :-(
2008-10-06 21:11:05 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi dean
2008-10-06 21:11:11 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: i here him
2008-10-06 21:11:11 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: just heard a bit...now gone
2008-10-06 21:11:11 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: AnCan anyone hear Matt?
2008-10-06 21:11:20 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Heard him for a few seconds...
2008-10-06 21:11:21 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi derralll
2008-10-06 21:11:25 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: Hi again Lisa
2008-10-06 21:11:34 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: hi mrsdurff
2008-10-06 21:11:35 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: only stepped out to make coffee
2008-10-06 21:11:41 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: and they are gone
2008-10-06 21:11:43 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: r we still breaking up
2008-10-06 21:11:46 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: coming in and out
2008-10-06 21:11:51 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: yes!
2008-10-06 21:11:54 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes still breaking up
2008-10-06 21:12:10 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: breaking up
2008-10-06 21:12:57 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://ideasandthoughts.org/2008/07/17/podcast-40-going-global-going-pub...
2008-10-06 21:13:09 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Link to Dean's Post on Goiing Global, Going Public
2008-10-06 21:14:45 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: really levels the playing field between rural and urban
2008-10-06 21:14:51 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: k12onlineconference.org
2008-10-06 21:14:53 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: sure Dean-you have the floor!
2008-10-06 21:16:53 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Lorna / Matt ...I'm only hearing Dean now
2008-10-06 21:17:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: me too-quiet right now
2008-10-06 21:17:39 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: can you hear matt?
2008-10-06 21:17:43 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: no
2008-10-06 21:17:53 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I can hear something but it is VERY faint.
2008-10-06 21:17:54 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: now can hear Cindy I think-not Matt
2008-10-06 21:19:12 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: is Matt fringing from his Iphone :)
2008-10-06 21:19:25 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: you can't hear my penny??
2008-10-06 21:19:33 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: no not really
2008-10-06 21:19:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: sorry-can't hear Matt-Dean comes through very clearly
2008-10-06 21:19:46 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: Can't hear you matt just dean
2008-10-06 21:19:50 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: only dean and cindy
2008-10-06 21:19:53 [Message] hbelow -> -EdTechTalk: Just started hearing Matt again.
2008-10-06 21:20:04 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: there's matt
2008-10-06 21:20:30 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I don't know who I"m listening to anymore :(
2008-10-06 21:20:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Dean right now-Shareski
2008-10-06 21:21:26 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: wow! interesting story!
2008-10-06 21:21:59 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Lorna / Matt - FYI the ETT Live page has this show as "WOW 2.0" right now.
2008-10-06 21:22:03 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: short course for principals--what a great idea!
2008-10-06 21:22:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes can hear Lorna
2008-10-06 21:23:03 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: and Cindy so Matt is the only problem
2008-10-06 21:23:14 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: will be sharing that slideshare with my principal
2008-10-06 21:23:19 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: I got out altogether and reentered...can hear all but Matt now
2008-10-06 21:24:20 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: K
2008-10-06 21:24:32 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks jeannine
2008-10-06 21:24:49 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: what are some strategies you use to keep a positive attitude and keep trying to move forward when faced with this backlash and negativity?
2008-10-06 21:25:39 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Link to the article that Cindy just referenced:
2008-10-06 21:25:41 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: Can they guide if they don't even know/use these tools
2008-10-06 21:25:55 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: beware, it is a pdf file...
2008-10-06 21:26:09 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.apa.org/journals/releases/amp632111.pdf
2008-10-06 21:26:24 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.wiredsafety.org/wiredlearning/iaf/predators1/
2008-10-06 21:27:10 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: what do you use for resources and research with principals who want to know where's the research to support improved student achievement with technology?
2008-10-06 21:27:34 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy, excellent question. I was asked that TODAY!!!
2008-10-06 21:29:03 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Larry Magid, one of the presenters at the Yahoo Conference, said, "99.9% of the things that kids are doing online are good"
2008-10-06 21:29:26 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: It's hard to teach or model how to be a good netizen if you don't do it yourself in some way shape or form.
2008-10-06 21:29:31 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'd really like some suggestions-I've found a few things but so much of the evidence is anecdotal in blogs and wikis.
2008-10-06 21:29:39 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy...here's one....http://news.becta.org.uk/display.cfm?resID=38417
2008-10-06 21:29:41 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @DAVEC...great point...
2008-10-06 21:29:49 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: what models do our kids have??
2008-10-06 21:29:58 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: so how do you get administration to try??
2008-10-06 21:30:25 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: when the ATA encouraged teachers to stay off facebook?
2008-10-06 21:30:51 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: ARe adults the best role models for digital communications?? Look at the comments on CNN, NYTIMES articles...many are highly offensive, rascist, homophobic, etc...and they're posted by adults!!
2008-10-06 21:30:53 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: OH, the media....arg. Can you imagine if the media was like it is now back when the phone was invented? "You could dial a wrong number and reach someone you don't know!!!"
2008-10-06 21:31:31 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @Dave... :) lol
2008-10-06 21:31:40 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Dean can you send that link again? got a not found error
2008-10-06 21:31:55 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I'll get that link
2008-10-06 21:32:11 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: i agree with the filters
2008-10-06 21:32:20 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: Another set of resources for kids, parents, teachers: http://www.youthlinkcalgary.com
2008-10-06 21:32:22 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Worst book on Internet and kids: Internet Protect Your Kids by Arterburn and Marsh. Actually makes up predator stories to make their point that the internet is unsafe. ARGHGHGH!
2008-10-06 21:32:26 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: wish i could hear others
2008-10-06 21:32:37 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: filters frustrate teachers who want to access resources
2008-10-06 21:32:39 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.wiredsafety.org/wiredlearning/iaf/predators1/
2008-10-06 21:33:03 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: kids may live in a filtered environment at school but what about home
2008-10-06 21:33:14 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: would be great if they learned skills at both places
2008-10-06 21:33:19 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that link worked for me-it was the link from Becta that didn't work
2008-10-06 21:33:41 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @penny...I've said that all along...it makes the adults at school feel good to tell everyone that "we keep the kidds safe...we have a filter"
2008-10-06 21:34:02 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: who helps the parents who don't know how to help filter
2008-10-06 21:34:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: such important points about filtering--so true!
2008-10-06 21:34:11 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I have to say that it is really cool to work at a school that doesn't filter
2008-10-06 21:34:45 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: I can't shelter my kids from everything -- I have to give them the skills to fillter themselves
2008-10-06 21:35:12 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: show administrators the link to the article from the American Psychologist...it really dispells the predator issue...
2008-10-06 21:35:46 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: Google yourself is a great strategy to help people see their digital breadcrumbs
2008-10-06 21:36:20 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.sarahwynne.name/about.php
2008-10-06 21:36:28 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: does that backfire when they google themselves?
2008-10-06 21:38:06 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I am at a school where about 15percent of kids don't have access to a computer outside of school. A parent told me that they didn't want their child in a podcast because someone might find a picture and use photoshop to remove their clothes. That's what the media teaches.
2008-10-06 21:38:13 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I read a powerful email from a local HS student yesterday where she very articulately requested a specific site be unblocked so she could do her research project. It was so persuasive the IMT director unblocked the site :-)
2008-10-06 21:38:26 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: So far my favorite book on kids and the internet: CyberSafe Kids, CyberSavvy Teens: Helping Young People Learn to Use the Internet Safely and Responsibly by Nancy E. Willard.
2008-10-06 21:38:49 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: it was interesting to hear folks talk about cyber bullying as the next big issue of adult techno-panic...they didn't minimize the issue, but they also worked to keep in perspective
2008-10-06 21:39:05 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I really like Nancy Willard's work! She is very persuasive!
2008-10-06 21:39:17 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @Cindy...I heard her speak last Friday...
2008-10-06 21:39:37 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.nbc5.com/news/15122267/detail.html
2008-10-06 21:40:36 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://middleschoolblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/yahoo-digital-citizenship-s...
2008-10-06 21:40:57 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I think nanci willard speaks about 20 minutes into the recording at the link I just sent
2008-10-06 21:41:20 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: still have a teacher that can't really use email
2008-10-06 21:41:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for sharing that Matt-I've never heard her speak but I bought her book!
2008-10-06 21:41:40 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://flickr.com/photos/mcleod/2919154621/in/pool-858082@N25
2008-10-06 21:42:16 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: HILARIOUS dean!!
2008-10-06 21:42:21 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Great photo! That could stimulate some very interesting conversations!
2008-10-06 21:43:04 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: So how can parents help out?
2008-10-06 21:43:11 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I love that photo, trying to figure out if I can use it in a presentation on how to get teachers to participate (or at least listen) to some of the k12online conference.
2008-10-06 21:43:16 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: What is the fear on the school's part for letting us help?
2008-10-06 21:44:00 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: call was lost - hopefully back soon!
2008-10-06 21:44:13 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: we can keep the chat going
2008-10-06 21:44:19 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hold up... brb!
2008-10-06 21:44:54 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Good idea! What books have chat other people read that they like or dislike?
2008-10-06 21:44:59 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: Here's a set of photos I've started on learning and change
2008-10-06 21:45:03 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: I'm wondering about what we can learn from when we needed to street-proof our kids - that was a new concept at the time too
2008-10-06 21:45:04 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://flickr.com/groups/858082@N25/pool/
2008-10-06 21:45:37 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: sorry about that...
2008-10-06 21:45:41 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: we should b back
2008-10-06 21:45:57 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome back.
2008-10-06 21:46:17 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Did anyone see the new Flickr links that Dean created for quotes and ideas with photos? They are fantastic and remind me of the first photo.
2008-10-06 21:46:25 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://primarypreoccupation.wordpress.com/
2008-10-06 21:46:30 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Dean you beat me to it! Thanks! Those are fantastic!!
2008-10-06 21:46:51 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Great blog post--parents as digital citizens. I'll think about that!
2008-10-06 21:47:57 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: would be a good post -- will look forward to it!!
2008-10-06 21:49:04 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: it's great just to know what to ask at the supper table
2008-10-06 21:51:22 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Penny, I used to post "conversation starters" for parents to ask their students about things we did during the day.
2008-10-06 21:51:33 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: WOW! The district invested in domain names!
2008-10-06 21:51:42 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Purchasing domain names for their students...really great idea...
2008-10-06 21:51:56 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: @DAveC where did you post the conversation starters for parents? school website?
2008-10-06 21:52:09 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: On my homework page and blog.
2008-10-06 21:52:14 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @Dave -- that's fantastic -- just what most parents want
2008-10-06 21:52:16 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: These are really good too--"interesting snippets" http://news.becta.org.uk/display.cfm?resID=38417
2008-10-06 21:52:49 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @Dave -- probably would get more involvement than just sending homework
2008-10-06 21:53:00 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: ThingsIFoundInMyBellyButton.com is available...
2008-10-06 21:53:22 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Cindy's blog is a great example of a parent blog
2008-10-06 21:53:31 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: THanks Matt :)
2008-10-06 21:53:36 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://livingontheline.wordpress.com/
2008-10-06 21:53:47 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: That is the link to Cindy's blog...
2008-10-06 21:54:29 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: As a teacher, when I read Cindy's blog, I become more aware of the busy lives of a typical family...
2008-10-06 21:54:45 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Interesting example--can a fat person teach PE?
2008-10-06 21:55:19 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: practice what you teach?
2008-10-06 21:56:31 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @penny-not sure if it's practice what you teach--maybe practice what you should be teaching :-)
2008-10-06 21:56:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: LOL
2008-10-06 21:57:06 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.prairiesouth.ca/images/stories/miscellaneous/techgraphic.jpg
2008-10-06 21:57:16 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy -- you are right how do you even know what to teach till you practice it?
2008-10-06 21:57:51 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes- and they may not even be using technology themselves
2008-10-06 21:58:15 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I like that visual! great discussion starter!
2008-10-06 22:00:03 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: if Matt's talking I can't hear him :-(
2008-10-06 22:00:19 [Message] hbelow -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for the informative hour! Would love to hear how people have dealt with cyber bullying.
2008-10-06 22:01:02 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Come listen on November 3--we'll be talking about bullying programs, including issues around cyber-bullying.
2008-10-06 22:01:05 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: can we do a followup show? this has been so helpful to hear how Dean approaches this
2008-10-06 22:01:17 [Message] Brian -> -EdTechTalk: did anyone record today's session?
2008-10-06 22:01:22 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: would love to pick dean's brain further
2008-10-06 22:01:35 [Message] Brian -> -EdTechTalk: i had to take care of my 2 yr old for half the time :(
2008-10-06 22:01:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: me too!!
2008-10-06 22:01:40 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Yes--Matt is archiving it.
2008-10-06 22:01:47 [Message] Brian -> -EdTechTalk: kk thx
2008-10-06 22:02:03 [Message] cindy seibel -> -EdTechTalk: Archived sessions on http://ourschool.ca
2008-10-06 22:02:31 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: change won't come if someone doesn't push
2008-10-06 22:02:35 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Oops! I said Oct 21--it's Oct. 20 for the next program.
2008-10-06 22:03:17 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Churchill: I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
2008-10-06 22:03:29 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks DaveC
2008-10-06 22:03:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks all! very interesting conversation!
2008-10-06 22:03:53 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: time is too short as always
2008-10-06 22:04:04 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: great show, thanks
2008-10-06 22:04:10 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Lorna
2008-10-06 22:04:49 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: thanks great show
2008-10-06 22:04:59 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the stream was coming through fine but the connection with Matt seemed to be a problem
2008-10-06 22:05:12 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: Matt was the only problem on my end too
2008-10-06 22:05:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: you should talk more about your K12online preso on your show :-)
2008-10-06 22:06:02 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy, seconded!
2008-10-06 22:06:26 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: it sounds like a pecha kucha presentation--is that 20 slides, 5 minutes?
2008-10-06 22:06:36 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: :-)
2008-10-06 22:06:37 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: What would be the best way to cheerlead k12 online in the school -- from a parent!!
2008-10-06 22:07:20 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: there is a flyer you can post if that would help. Wes shared it on the earlier show today
2008-10-06 22:07:32 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Where are the flyers? I couldn't find them.
2008-10-06 22:08:21 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: will have to do something more personal than that -- but I don't want to seem like I am telling them what they should do...
2008-10-06 22:08:35 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: just hi-lite an opportunity
2008-10-06 22:09:24 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=231
2008-10-06 22:09:40 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Dean-I couldn't find the link
2008-10-06 22:10:42 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks!
2008-10-06 22:10:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @penny-I love the concept of the Lan parties where a small group of people come together in someone's living room to watch a presentation or two and talk about it.
2008-10-06 22:11:35 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: you could invite a small group of parents to come and watch something you select that would be timely :-)
2008-10-06 22:11:36 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: Would the presentations be such that parents and teachers should/could watch together ??
2008-10-06 22:11:48 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: thinking same thing same time
2008-10-06 22:12:02 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: certainly the parents as partners would be excellent
2008-10-06 22:12:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: absolutely! and you don't have to view them "live" so you can preview and select an appropriate topic
2008-10-06 22:12:18 [Message] shareski -> -EdTechTalk: @Penny....I'm sure some would be, particularly the keynotes
2008-10-06 22:12:55 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: my luck it'll all be blocked at the school ;)
2008-10-06 22:13:42 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Penny, I think that's a great idea. Biggest problem I've had has been with taxpayers who complain that things were good enough for them 35 years ago, it's good enough now.
2008-10-06 22:14:14 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: maybe you can hold it away from school :-)
2008-10-06 22:14:23 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: (NOTE: I didn't say "parents", I've heard it from a variety of community members)
2008-10-06 22:14:44 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @DaveC--yes! I've heard it from teachers too!
2008-10-06 22:15:01 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: is Matt talking?
2008-10-06 22:15:05 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: Always have access to the community library -- may have to scheme
2008-10-06 22:15:10 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I think I hear someone breathing.
2008-10-06 22:15:45 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Maybe a small, local eatery to keep it really casual
2008-10-06 22:16:06 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: even some of the presentations that show some exciting things being done with technology in schools could be excellent for parents/teachers to watch together and discuss.
2008-10-06 22:16:45 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: sorry I can't b heard!!! Rats!
2008-10-06 22:16:48 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: a small eatery wouldn't have internet -- we are small small town -- we'd cause a real buzz if we did that
2008-10-06 22:17:00 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: food is good! Jeff Utecht did some pizza and beer Lan parties last year :-) can't do that at school
2008-10-06 22:17:11 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: now we're talking
2008-10-06 22:18:18 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: if you have wireless access at someone's home you could even do it in the back yard and have a BBQ or potluck and eat and talk
2008-10-06 22:18:36 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: I am going to work on this -- we have parent council coming up -- supposed to be a parent tech night -- but no parents have been asked to be involved in what is happening -- maybe soon...
2008-10-06 22:19:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: we did it last year in someone's home who had wireless access and it worked great! we're planning to do it again. Small group--maybe 8 people
2008-10-06 22:20:18 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: I think the school should give them time to attend -- but maybe next time after they see the value that might happen
2008-10-06 22:20:25 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy, a wireless lan party.
2008-10-06 22:21:02 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes :-) We actually called it a LaWN party to keep the word Lan in it
2008-10-06 22:21:17 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: @Penny, it would be great if that could happen. For us, it is happening at 8:00am.
2008-10-06 22:21:45 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: what's happening at 8:00am? everything is archived and can be viewed anytime
2008-10-06 22:21:55 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: Maybe we'll (parents) throw them a k-12 online party -- show that we support them!
2008-10-06 22:22:22 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Doh.
2008-10-06 22:22:25 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: I knew that.
2008-10-06 22:22:28 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @penny-great idea! do it :-) It would be fun!
2008-10-06 22:23:08 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Anyone know when the fireside chats are going to be?
2008-10-06 22:23:19 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: it is just really nervewracking as a parent to tread into that domain
2008-10-06 22:23:20 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that's such a great point Dean! keep promoting everything!
2008-10-06 22:24:10 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the fireside chat times aren't posted yet but will be soon
2008-10-06 22:24:57 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: We're running into issues with allowing anyone in the classroom who hasn't been fingerprinted first due to FERPA.
2008-10-06 22:24:59 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: wonderful show AND post-show conversation Lorna! Thanks!
2008-10-06 22:25:04 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: Although I don't know what the fingerprinting part has to do with it...
2008-10-06 22:25:20 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Dean!!!!
2008-10-06 22:25:24 [Message] DaveC -> -EdTechTalk: night all.
2008-10-06 22:25:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Night everyone
2008-10-06 22:26:23 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: night guys -- great show
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