ETW#42 Post Show Discussion of WB Sponsorship Possibilities
admin - Mon, 2007-08-13 10:05
EdTechWeekly#42 Post Show & Post Post Show
Discussion of WB Sponsorship Possibilities & Income Distribution
August 12, 2007
Having been contacted by a major edtech company about sponsoring us, the community discusses how sponsorship might work in a Worldbridgey way.
Discussion of WB Sponsorship Possibilities & Income Distribution
August 12, 2007
Having been contacted by a major edtech company about sponsoring us, the community discusses how sponsorship might work in a Worldbridgey way.
19:43:37 JenniferW -> does ETT have a paypal address???
19:43:39 Durff -> Jen
19:43:43 Durff -> how
19:43:46 sroseman -> Canadian Brass..Great!!!
19:43:55 cheryl -> got it back, thanks jeff,
19:43:58 cheryl -> maybe on my end
19:43:59 JenniferW -> Handbells sounds good too
19:43:59 DS -> still have stream here
19:44:02 JohnSchinker -> They are fun. We see them once every 2-3 years.
19:44:03 Durff -> they won't tell me jen
19:44:07 Jason Hando -> someone needs to setup paypal for ett.... good idea though!
19:44:09 JenniferW -> really?? Elluminate???
19:44:13 Miz Mercer -> [email protected]
19:44:21 Miz Mercer -> or [email protected]
19:44:25 JenniferW -> are they giving you free access tooo???
19:44:26 Durff -> @gmail.comm
19:44:40 Sharon -> oh! here is a question for peeps... anyone hear of Ecto Learning?
19:44:41 Durff -> dave!
19:44:53 Durff -> stream is good
19:45:02 JohnSchinker -> But they are podcasts, too.
19:45:05 Durff -> all dave's fault
19:45:13 JenMad -> Lisa: :)
19:45:24 Durff -> Jen :)
19:45:28 JenMad -> lisa is funny (and a good twitterista!)
19:45:37 Miz Mercer -> Jesse Unruh said, if you can't take their money, 'entertain' their women, and vote against them you don't belong in politics.
19:45:44 Durff -> but i can't stream
19:45:57 JenniferW -> you don't like Ellumniate??
19:46:19 Miz Mercer -> I have no opinion but Dave and Jeff do
19:46:20 Durff -> does dave like anything?
19:46:24 JenniferW -> aren't they the only "Good" option we have for that so far??
19:46:29 JenniferW -> Yugma doesn't work as well
19:46:30 Durff -> hi lee
19:46:32 dave -> i don't like eluminate
19:46:41 Durff -> i noticed
19:46:41 Lee Baber -> hi durff
19:46:44 JenniferW -> but what else do we have -- I would LOVE to have options
19:46:49 Durff -> but i do
19:47:01 JenniferW -> And I am thinking it is quite good of you not just to take FREE EASY money
19:47:03 Durff -> you mouth off aqbout everything
19:47:26 Durff -> there are great possibilities
19:47:27 Miz Mercer -> GAG
19:47:31 Sharon -> collaba wimba is one competitor to eluminate, I believe
19:47:38 Cathy E -> What is the difference between eluminate and go-to-meeting?
19:47:40 Durff -> you might choke stop that
19:47:40 JenniferW -> collaba wimba??
19:47:54 JenniferW -> other options??
19:48:05 Lee Baber -> durff..i found that photo ad of when I sponsored stelling banjos you wanted to see... digging in old files for that one
19:48:09 JenniferW -> can we try to make ELLUMINATE crash???
19:48:17 dave -> it crashes nicely
19:48:17 Durff -> :) lee
19:48:20 Jason Hando -> gotta run, thnx folks
19:48:28 Sharon -> collaba.ca
19:48:31 JenniferW -> LOL -- I love to see things crash
19:48:34 Steve_K -> Just my opinion....great product.....too expensive for most schools to afford
19:48:55 Durff -> which is why we want it
19:48:57 Sharon -> Ecto Learning is also working on something like this
19:49:01 JenniferW -> is John Schinker official now on ETT?? Jen/Dave/Jeff and JOHN???
19:49:02 Durff -> if it is free
19:49:04 cheryl -> bye jason,
19:49:04 Durff -> do it
19:49:18 cheryl -> hi joser
19:49:18 Durff -> then we can use flashmeeting
19:49:21 JenniferW -> should I respect him more?? :)
19:49:25 Durff -> which is free
19:49:25 Sharon -> ectolearning.com
19:49:28 JoseR -> Hi All I was running errands with family
19:49:33 Durff -> hi jose
19:49:39 JoseR -> post show?
19:49:43 JenniferW -> NOP --
19:49:43 Durff -> yes
19:49:49 JenniferW -> is ELLUMINATE our only option
19:50:00 Durff -> it is free
19:50:22 Durff -> let's find out
19:50:25 dave -> http://www.dimdim.com/
19:50:27 JenniferW -> sorry -- I meant is Elluminate our own option??
19:50:37 JenniferW -> not for you guys to make $$$
19:50:41 JohnSchinker -> I think they're the only ones who have approached Jeff so far
19:50:42 Sharon -> LEARN apparently uses collaba - really don't know much about it
19:50:43 Durff -> no but it is free
19:50:59 JenniferW -> Grins -- I mean the TOOL Elluminate?? are there other options??
19:51:05 JohnSchinker -> Skype problems..... is the stream cutting out too?
19:51:09 JenniferW -> besides Yugma
19:51:11 Durff -> no
19:51:16 Sharon -> Jen, I mentioned collaba and ectolearning
19:51:19 Cathy E -> stream sounds good
19:51:20 Durff -> john listen on b
19:51:26 JenniferW -> Yes, I saw that Sharon
19:51:38 Durff -> hi cathy
19:51:51 cathy n -> hey durff
19:52:02 cathy n -> been listening just not in the chat room until now
19:52:04 JenMad -> OH! I forgot to mention John's blog series ... check it out! It is awesome!! http://staff.bbhcsd.org/schinkerj/categories/summer-renewal/
19:52:13 JenniferW -> EdTechTalk and Elluminate -- what if they start using you too??
19:52:20 Durff -> it is free
19:52:30 Durff -> breeze is most
19:52:34 JenniferW -> meaning -- they start feeling you are in partnership??
19:52:41 Durff -> actually
19:52:46 JenniferW -> what is free??
19:52:47 Sharon -> would they permit ETT to allow competitors to also advertise here?
19:52:56 Durff -> no money = free
19:53:05 Cathy E -> what if we love it- then they want to stop?
19:53:09 JenniferW -> What about YUGMA???
19:53:18 Durff -> wrong? not doing it
19:53:22 JenniferW -> could you still use them on Sunday??? or do you have to use ELLUMINATE??
19:53:37 Durff -> 2 months?
19:53:40 JenniferW -> will you only be able to use THEIR software??
19:53:41 Durff -> com' on
19:53:45 cathy n -> i find elluminate a bi cumbersome
19:53:49 JohnSchinker -> We tend to lean toward free tools, but the people who make them can't really afford a big advertising deal.
19:53:51 cathy n -> bit
19:53:55 JenniferW -> I like that you don't have your STAMP on anything but education
19:54:00 Durff -> hi greypath
19:54:01 Lee Baber -> really good beer
19:54:21 JoseR -> I like the beer idea
19:54:22 Sharon -> Yugma doesn't offer all the features - like audio
19:54:29 JoseR -> german
19:54:29 greypath -> Hi Its 10Am here what time is it there?
19:54:34 JohnSchinker -> Dave picks good beer
19:54:36 Sharon -> am going with the beer idea - as long as it is not American beer
19:54:47 JenniferW -> I think it is GOOD that you say NO.
19:54:50 Durff -> Sprechen Sie Deutsch
19:54:55 Lee Baber -> they would be canned at that point
19:55:02 cathy n -> estern continental US = 7:55pm
19:55:03 JenMad -> it is currently 8 pm in the Eastern US
19:55:04 JohnSchinker -> Beer is free too: http://www.freebeer.org/blog/
19:55:04 JenniferW -> this is a small hurdle -- you will have bigger ones that will be harder to say NO to
19:55:08 Sharon -> hi greypath - here it is almost 8 PM
19:55:25 Durff -> 7:55
19:55:28 Lee Baber -> we wanted to call our bluegrass band Free Food and Beer
19:55:42 greypath -> Is this the video academy ?
19:55:43 Sharon -> but for some of us, it is qute
19:55:45 Lee Baber -> we thought it would be sure to draw a crowd
19:55:56 greypath -> TA for the times
19:56:00 JohnSchinker -> Lee likes to incite riots at her gigs
19:56:05 JoseR -> Using Elluminate as a venue does not give them right over content, right?
19:56:08 Sharon -> oops, bad typing - greypath - it is a different time zone
19:56:18 Sharon -> LOL at Lee
19:56:20 DS -> Greypath, this is the "post show" from EdTech Weekly
19:56:23 Durff -> would dave agree to anything?
19:56:23 Lee Baber -> oh yes...it sells lots of cds
19:56:33 Sharon -> dave would agree to beer
19:56:34 Durff -> ever?
19:56:42 Sharon -> always
19:56:42 cheryl -> i remember
19:56:45 JenniferW -> I don't need compensation -- thank you
19:56:49 Durff -> oh beer...beasty beer
19:56:52 Lee Baber -> REally really good beer
19:56:56 Sharon -> although occasionally he will defer to wine
19:57:11 JoseR -> It isn't a blackboard deal right, content would be available at our sites?
19:57:15 JenniferW -> I owe you more than you could ever compensate me
19:57:15 Sharon -> (meaning, NOT American beer)
19:57:47 JoseR -> Elluminate This?
19:57:48 JohnSchinker -> The best beer in the world is made in America.
19:58:11 JenniferW -> CathyE -- how is your drupal going??
19:58:15 JohnSchinker -> It's just not made by the giant macrobreweries
19:58:27 dave -> john --> no it isn't.
19:58:35 JohnSchinker -> Anyone work with Elluminate @ K-12 Online?
19:58:40 JenniferW -> how much is elluminate -- I thought $1200 a year??
19:58:40 greypath -> Im trying to sort out how all this fits with video casting techniques education. Could somone kindly email me at [email protected] with a what its all about, as coming to it cold, is very confusing?
19:58:51 Durff -> and beasty dave's objections
19:58:55 JenniferW -> John --- only last year, K12
19:59:16 JoseR -> Did you mention how monies are generated?
19:59:21 JenniferW -> did they contact you via email or REAL mail??
19:59:22 Sharon -> greypath - here we offer webcast training - not videocasting
19:59:41 JoseR -> Jenn you mean snail mail
19:59:46 JenniferW -> Elluminte is $99 a year??
19:59:50 JoseR -> all mail is real mail
19:59:53 JenniferW -> LOL -- yes
20:00:10 Durff -> real is an illusion
20:00:35 JoseR -> Hosting on own servers?
20:00:52 Lee Baber -> Durff... here is the picture of the banjo and me a long time ago! http://web.mac.com/lbaber/iWeb/LeeBaber/lee.html
20:01:06 greypath -> Ok Ta. Im well across webcasting to my seniors demographic, and am moving to video, so its not quite for me. A:p terminology problem on my part. Good luck to you all
20:01:27 Durff -> you're so pretty lee!
20:01:49 Durff -> it's free
20:01:51 DS -> take care Greypath--stop by again any time
20:02:05 Miz Mercer -> Anyone else work on migration to Oracle projects?
20:02:06 JoseR -> the code,
20:02:25 greypath -> Thanks. Bye for now folks...
20:02:32 Durff -> bye
20:02:34 Sharon -> Alice, could you explain what you mean by Oracle projects
20:02:35 JoseR -> I agree with Dave; so where's my beer?
20:02:35 Lee Baber -> bye
20:02:55 dave -> lol
20:02:55 Durff -> only beasty beer
20:03:00 JoseR -> German please
20:03:04 dave -> yous funny JoseR
20:03:06 Miz Mercer -> SQL database migration, THOSE are expensive, and then they "sell" consultants to straigten it out.
20:03:06 JohnSchinker -> Jose, the Beer's in my fridge. Everyone's welcome to stop by and help themselves.
20:03:10 Durff -> auf Deutsch?
20:03:20 JenniferW -> do you have an operating budget you are NOT meeting??
20:03:24 JoseR -> nah
20:03:28 Durff -> oder bier auf Deutschland?
20:03:30 dave -> moi j'aime les poptart
20:03:32 Sharon -> dimdim only works on PC, not mac??
20:03:39 JenMad -> JW: A hosted dimdim installation is $99
20:03:40 Sharon -> ahhhh
20:03:41 JohnSchinker -> JDub, I think Jeff's footing most of the bill.
20:03:44 Miz Mercer -> Dave you are a poptart, sometimes
20:03:46 JoseR -> John; Leave night light on.
20:03:52 Durff -> poptarts a la beasty?
20:03:59 JenniferW -> what about the grant though??? does that help??
20:04:03 Lee Baber -> thanks durff
20:04:13 Durff -> welcome
20:04:14 Sharon -> moi aussi, moi aussi!
20:04:17 JohnSchinker -> Jose, the beer fridge is in the basement next to the pinball machine.
20:04:19 JenniferW -> 60 days is a short time -- or it could be a VERY long time
20:04:40 JoseR -> So, Elluminate and others want access to our districts and the like?
20:04:53 Durff -> i think we would be foolish not to take this
20:05:03 sroseman -> interesting conversations and links..gotta get ready to go canoeing tomorrow
20:05:07 JohnSchinker -> I think it's worth trying it to see how it goes.
20:05:15 Sharon -> ooh... have fun Sue!
20:05:19 JenniferW -> do they have to be on EVERY page??
20:05:27 JenniferW -> the link to Elluminate??
20:05:34 JenMad -> Night, Sue!
20:05:34 Durff -> dave in beastyland for one month?
20:05:48 cathy n -> it seems they just want to ride coattails
20:05:56 Miz Mercer -> MONEY!
20:05:57 cathy n -> get some free pub
20:06:03 Miz Mercer -> Is both plus and minus
20:06:14 cathy n -> ig ett uses it, everyone should
20:06:20 Miz Mercer -> Is it a gateway drug, or is the money going to help us grow, and thrive.
20:06:20 JenniferW -> besides income??
20:06:28 Durff -> they should get the chat room log too
20:06:31 Sharon -> I am going off for a nice walk in the dusk - cheers all
20:06:39 JoseR -> So Elluminate envisions us as being able to influence our institutions to buy their product?
20:06:40 Durff -> cheers
20:06:45 cathy n -> watch skeeter Sharon
20:06:48 Brad Hicks -> suck it and see - if it doesn't work out reserve the right to withdraw at your discretion
20:06:53 Miz Mercer -> Jose, I know we're so powerful, lol
20:06:59 JenniferW -> what are two of the sites generating funds and the other ones NOT??
20:07:10 JohnSchinker -> Are they sponsoring anyone else at the moment?
20:07:13 JoseR -> I don't get it! We have 7Billion to spend in LA
20:07:21 Lee Baber -> I agree Jeff... it does
20:07:29 cathy n -> free pubicity
20:07:45 Miz Mercer -> Jose R. 7 bill is not a lot in the 2nd biggest or biggest darn school district in the country
20:07:46 Durff -> we are not talking about a lifetime here
20:07:52 JohnSchinker -> *grin*
20:07:53 cathy n -> its as if the tech educators are pushing it if it is here
20:07:56 JenniferW -> LOL -- and edit that out
20:07:56 JenMad -> speaking of beer ....
20:08:03 JoseR -> Open Source = ?
20:08:05 Durff -> we are talking about 2 months free Elluminate
20:08:10 cheryl -> hiatus JenM
20:08:16 JenMad -> :)
20:08:17 JenniferW -> enjoy your HIATUS!!!
20:08:30 JenniferW -> Dual PostShot!!!
20:08:33 JenniferW -> PostShow!!
20:08:35 cheryl -> WOW2 is enjoying theirs
20:08:40 JoseR -> Is this a forum?
20:08:44 Lee Baber -> WOOHOO
20:08:46 JenniferW -> 54 minute graduation cast -- made me laugh
20:08:51 DS -> yes, have a great hiatus
20:08:55 JenniferW -> does it have to be an HOUR??
20:08:59 cathy n -> chow
20:09:00 JoseR -> Elluminate This; Right, dave
20:09:10 JenniferW -> August 23 -- Happy Day
20:09:11 Durff -> so do we have a paypal acount?
20:09:16 Miz Mercer -> Can I chat about arming teachers?
20:09:23 JenniferW -> I tried the [email protected]
20:09:27 Durff -> or does the billpayer?
20:09:27 JenniferW -> didn't work --
20:09:36 JenniferW -> my sister is August 23rd
20:09:42 Durff -> arming?
20:09:43 DS -> no ETBS for me this week, will post at webacastacademy to see if any interns are interested
20:09:46 Durff -> guns?
20:09:47 JoseR -> arming teachers, That's in Oaxaca
20:09:48 Miz Mercer -> JW try [email protected]
20:09:53 JenniferW -> so is all ETT on vacation???
20:10:09 Miz Mercer -> JoseR. No, that's disarming teachers by the state
20:10:12 JenniferW -> no back up for WOW2???
20:10:17 Durff -> does he get a certificate?
20:10:27 JoseR -> Doug I can do ETBS special session on the 23rd
20:10:42 DS -> excellent Jose, thanks, appreciate it
20:10:51 Miz Mercer -> Communities?
20:11:10 JoseR -> Ok Miz Mercer, what's on your mind?
20:11:21 Miz Mercer -> http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2007/aug/08/566681889.html
20:11:36 JoseR -> How about idea of standing committee
20:11:37 Miz Mercer -> Jose, how do you feel about being armed?
20:11:43 DS -> just voted, both are good with me
20:11:49 Miz Mercer -> If we start making money...
20:11:55 Miz Mercer -> Hmm...
20:11:56 Durff -> give that man a badge
20:11:57 JenniferW -> I think WebCast Academy should cost
20:12:03 JenniferW -> I would pay $20 to be a part
20:12:05 Durff -> dave voted twive
20:12:13 Durff -> beastydave
20:12:23 JenniferW -> That is how much I make per student at www.lvsonline.com
20:12:23 JoseR -> ummmmm. I've been in schools in the innercity I feel a gun.... I just don't know
20:12:25 Lee Baber -> BADbeastyDAVE
20:12:28 JenniferW -> for teaching students
20:12:50 Miz Mercer -> YOU COULD BE A DEPUTY!
20:12:53 Durff -> JDub if you find a paypal tell me
20:13:04 Miz Mercer -> Comeon Jose, wouldn't that make you feel safer?
20:13:06 JenniferW -> okay
20:13:07 Durff -> he ccould have a hat
20:13:19 Miz Mercer -> Kid gets out of line, you could pistol whip 'em
20:13:21 JoseR -> innercity teachers in LA get a special combat stipend $1,000
20:13:33 Miz Mercer -> I know, I know they're in third grade, but they need to learn young
20:13:41 JenMad -> I thought he was for sure going to say, "Except for Jen" thanks for taking that one, John.
20:13:43 JenniferW -> JoseR -- do you teach in LA??
20:13:47 Miz Mercer -> Hmm, you need an operating manager or officer
20:13:54 JoseR -> Yep, Ms Corona
20:14:02 Miz Mercer -> Jose, how do they designate combat schools?
20:14:15 Lee Baber -> http://www.openads.org/
20:14:16 JenMad -> JoseR, meet JW ... JW, meet Jose R :)
20:14:19 JenniferW -> I am a result of the LA School District
20:14:22 JoseR -> innercity, census tract and the like
20:14:25 Miz Mercer -> Is it based on crime at school, or in neighborhood, or how few teachers are willing to work there.
20:14:30 Durff -> or going on hiatus
20:14:30 Miz Mercer -> Hey JW me too!
20:14:39 JenniferW -> very long time ago
20:14:49 Miz Mercer -> JW, H.S. class of 1983 here.
20:14:51 JenniferW -> not as a teacher -- as a student
20:14:55 JenniferW -> 1978 here
20:14:57 Miz Mercer -> Same here JW
20:14:58 JoseR -> Jenn you turned out ok could we use you on a poster?
20:15:16 JenniferW -> LOL -- I am sure you coudl find a better poster child :)
20:15:17 Miz Mercer -> Hmm, how did I turn out?
20:15:18 JoseR -> you to Miz Mercer
20:15:28 Brad Hicks -> well gotta go to work - cu later guys
20:15:35 Lee Baber -> bye brad
20:15:39 JoseR -> I grew up in OC behind the orange curtain
20:15:41 Miz Mercer -> Hardly, but I get by. And it was based on a system of trracking and racial inequality.
20:15:42 JenniferW -> I think it would be hard to regulate the money
20:15:43 DS -> cya Brad
20:15:46 Durff -> beasty dave the poster child of ett
20:15:48 JenMad -> John is funny :)
20:15:49 JenniferW -> would you pay by percentage???
20:16:00 Miz Mercer -> I benefited while others were kept down by the man.
20:16:04 JenniferW -> you can't pay an absolute amount -- because your funding might change month by month
20:16:12 Miz Mercer -> SOrry, I was channeling Angela Davis there for a minute
20:16:20 JoseR -> National Board teachers get to work and extra 90 hours for 15 grand
20:16:25 Durff -> how did it feel?
20:16:31 JenniferW -> MizMercer -- what city did you live in??
20:16:37 Miz Mercer -> San Fernando Valley
20:16:44 JenniferW -> ahhhh I was in Hawthorne
20:16:48 Miz Mercer -> In the middle of trying to implement busing. Not pretty
20:17:16 Miz Mercer -> Lots of white folks behaving badly, NOT as bad as Boston, but not nice things being said.
20:17:18 Durff -> oh! dave agrees?
20:17:22 Durff -> ever?
20:17:29 JenniferW -> Alice -- where are you now???
20:17:35 Durff -> w/ anyone?
20:17:42 Durff -> amazing!
20:17:49 Miz Mercer -> Sacramento by way of the Bay Area (20+ years in Oakland)
20:17:51 JoseR -> it's not unhead of an LA teacher that works 24/7 make over 100,000 a year even more than principals
20:17:59 JenniferW -> ahhhhh
20:18:06 Miz Mercer -> Jose, is that what you're trying to do?
20:18:14 Miz Mercer -> Cause you are ALWAYS working.
20:18:14 JenniferW -> JoseR -- what school or city are you at??
20:18:14 JoseR -> It's called milking the system
20:18:21 Miz Mercer -> SUmmer school, evening school, etc.
20:18:32 JoseR -> not that I subscribe to that philosophy, RIGHT
20:18:42 Miz Mercer -> Hey, I'd love a new USB mic!
20:18:43 JenniferW -> send it to CHERYL OAKES ---- (smiles)
20:18:44 cheryl -> Jen, Dave and Jeff, enjoy your couple weeks off. Headed to dinner.
20:18:58 Durff -> bye cheryl
20:19:00 jeff -> thanks - bon apetit
20:19:00 DS -> bye Cheryl
20:19:17 cheryl -> I'd love a new Mic. sweet
20:19:29 cheryl -> is that my graduation present Dave?
20:19:34 JoseR -> Jenn are you a consultant, no wait you are an IT person, wait... what do you do
20:19:34 Durff -> i'd like a new CPU
20:19:36 JenniferW -> Cheryl you can have all our compensations -- Sharon and Vicki would concur
20:20:00 JenniferW -> LOL -- JoseR -- by day, I am HELPDESK/IT -- by night, I host Online Projects for teachers
20:20:02 Durff -> beasty dave changing his mind?
20:20:11 cheryl -> thanks Jen, but I think the $ goes back into Edtechtalk. WB, WCA, and others.
20:20:13 Durff -> hold your hats!
20:20:20 JoseR -> I Knew it!
20:20:24 JenniferW -> YOu will be missed!!!
20:20:34 Miz Mercer -> http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2007/aug/08/566681889.html
20:20:36 JenniferW -> I enjoy Sunday Afternoons with ETT
20:20:45 JoseR -> same here.
20:20:53 cheryl -> Later gators.
20:21:00 Durff -> bye
20:21:17 JoseR -> Jeff and the gang are great. Too bad we also have to take care of the bills.
20:21:24 Durff -> i vote for ice
20:21:34 DS -> thanks all for another great show
20:21:41 Durff -> bye doug
20:21:52 DS -> enjoy the time off ETW gang
20:22:02 Durff -> jose does
20:22:06 JoseR -> NPR had a recent show on kids that beat up teachers
20:22:10 Durff -> deputise jose
20:22:22 JoseR -> I have a what?
20:22:37 DS -> guns don't kill people, teachers do!
20:22:44 Durff -> :)
20:22:46 JoseR -> ha, ha, ha
20:22:57 JenniferW -> you made me snort DS :)
20:23:06 DS -> maybe they should try tasers first ;)
20:23:07 JoseR -> School Police do carry guns in LA
20:23:24 Miz Mercer -> I'm just picturing the type of teacher who would WANT to do this...
20:23:26 JoseR -> District has it's own police department
20:23:27 Durff -> loaded?
20:23:34 Miz Mercer -> Oh yeah Lisa,
20:23:42 Durff -> sigh
20:23:45 JohnSchinker -> Police in the schools carry guns everywhere, don't they?
20:23:48 JenniferW -> This past Thursday -- I could have easily blown away a Tech Coord
20:23:49 Lee Baber -> Bye all
20:23:53 Miz Mercer -> They are sworn peace officers by the state of california
20:23:56 JenniferW -> so -- NO GUNS for JEN
20:24:04 JohnSchinker -> Easy, JDub. I'm not that bad
20:24:07 Miz Mercer -> Rest of us have local police or sherriff on loan
20:24:12 JenniferW -> LOL -- not you John
20:24:12 Durff -> put the guns away
20:24:25 JenniferW -> Luckily I was directed to a TIME OUT chair/
20:24:25 Miz Mercer -> I picture the guy who is like Don Knotts
20:24:42 Miz Mercer -> I wanna gun, I can handle it - uh NO! Heck NO!
20:24:43 JoseR -> OK Miz Mercer head off to East Covina
20:24:46 JenniferW -> see everyone in 2 weeks
20:24:50 Durff -> JDub you do it first
20:24:53 JohnSchinker -> bye everyone
20:24:56 Miz Mercer -> See It's E! folks tomorrow
20:25:01 JenniferW -> Enjoy yourselves until then!!
20:25:05 Durff -> bye all
20:25:13 JoseR -> bye
19:43:39 Durff -> Jen
19:43:43 Durff -> how
19:43:46 sroseman -> Canadian Brass..Great!!!
19:43:55 cheryl -> got it back, thanks jeff,
19:43:58 cheryl -> maybe on my end
19:43:59 JenniferW -> Handbells sounds good too
19:43:59 DS -> still have stream here
19:44:02 JohnSchinker -> They are fun. We see them once every 2-3 years.
19:44:03 Durff -> they won't tell me jen
19:44:07 Jason Hando -> someone needs to setup paypal for ett.... good idea though!
19:44:09 JenniferW -> really?? Elluminate???
19:44:13 Miz Mercer -> [email protected]
19:44:21 Miz Mercer -> or [email protected]
19:44:25 JenniferW -> are they giving you free access tooo???
19:44:26 Durff -> @gmail.comm
19:44:40 Sharon -> oh! here is a question for peeps... anyone hear of Ecto Learning?
19:44:41 Durff -> dave!
19:44:53 Durff -> stream is good
19:45:02 JohnSchinker -> But they are podcasts, too.
19:45:05 Durff -> all dave's fault
19:45:13 JenMad -> Lisa: :)
19:45:24 Durff -> Jen :)
19:45:28 JenMad -> lisa is funny (and a good twitterista!)
19:45:37 Miz Mercer -> Jesse Unruh said, if you can't take their money, 'entertain' their women, and vote against them you don't belong in politics.
19:45:44 Durff -> but i can't stream
19:45:57 JenniferW -> you don't like Ellumniate??
19:46:19 Miz Mercer -> I have no opinion but Dave and Jeff do
19:46:20 Durff -> does dave like anything?
19:46:24 JenniferW -> aren't they the only "Good" option we have for that so far??
19:46:29 JenniferW -> Yugma doesn't work as well
19:46:30 Durff -> hi lee
19:46:32 dave -> i don't like eluminate
19:46:41 Durff -> i noticed
19:46:41 Lee Baber -> hi durff
19:46:44 JenniferW -> but what else do we have -- I would LOVE to have options
19:46:49 Durff -> but i do
19:47:01 JenniferW -> And I am thinking it is quite good of you not just to take FREE EASY money
19:47:03 Durff -> you mouth off aqbout everything
19:47:26 Durff -> there are great possibilities
19:47:27 Miz Mercer -> GAG
19:47:31 Sharon -> collaba wimba is one competitor to eluminate, I believe
19:47:38 Cathy E -> What is the difference between eluminate and go-to-meeting?
19:47:40 Durff -> you might choke stop that
19:47:40 JenniferW -> collaba wimba??
19:47:54 JenniferW -> other options??
19:48:05 Lee Baber -> durff..i found that photo ad of when I sponsored stelling banjos you wanted to see... digging in old files for that one
19:48:09 JenniferW -> can we try to make ELLUMINATE crash???
19:48:17 dave -> it crashes nicely
19:48:17 Durff -> :) lee
19:48:20 Jason Hando -> gotta run, thnx folks
19:48:28 Sharon -> collaba.ca
19:48:31 JenniferW -> LOL -- I love to see things crash
19:48:34 Steve_K -> Just my opinion....great product.....too expensive for most schools to afford
19:48:55 Durff -> which is why we want it
19:48:57 Sharon -> Ecto Learning is also working on something like this
19:49:01 JenniferW -> is John Schinker official now on ETT?? Jen/Dave/Jeff and JOHN???
19:49:02 Durff -> if it is free
19:49:04 cheryl -> bye jason,
19:49:04 Durff -> do it
19:49:18 cheryl -> hi joser
19:49:18 Durff -> then we can use flashmeeting
19:49:21 JenniferW -> should I respect him more?? :)
19:49:25 Durff -> which is free
19:49:25 Sharon -> ectolearning.com
19:49:28 JoseR -> Hi All I was running errands with family
19:49:33 Durff -> hi jose
19:49:39 JoseR -> post show?
19:49:43 JenniferW -> NOP --
19:49:43 Durff -> yes
19:49:49 JenniferW -> is ELLUMINATE our only option
19:50:00 Durff -> it is free
19:50:22 Durff -> let's find out
19:50:25 dave -> http://www.dimdim.com/
19:50:27 JenniferW -> sorry -- I meant is Elluminate our own option??
19:50:37 JenniferW -> not for you guys to make $$$
19:50:41 JohnSchinker -> I think they're the only ones who have approached Jeff so far
19:50:42 Sharon -> LEARN apparently uses collaba - really don't know much about it
19:50:43 Durff -> no but it is free
19:50:59 JenniferW -> Grins -- I mean the TOOL Elluminate?? are there other options??
19:51:05 JohnSchinker -> Skype problems..... is the stream cutting out too?
19:51:09 JenniferW -> besides Yugma
19:51:11 Durff -> no
19:51:16 Sharon -> Jen, I mentioned collaba and ectolearning
19:51:19 Cathy E -> stream sounds good
19:51:20 Durff -> john listen on b
19:51:26 JenniferW -> Yes, I saw that Sharon
19:51:38 Durff -> hi cathy
19:51:51 cathy n -> hey durff
19:52:02 cathy n -> been listening just not in the chat room until now
19:52:04 JenMad -> OH! I forgot to mention John's blog series ... check it out! It is awesome!! http://staff.bbhcsd.org/schinkerj/categories/summer-renewal/
19:52:13 JenniferW -> EdTechTalk and Elluminate -- what if they start using you too??
19:52:20 Durff -> it is free
19:52:30 Durff -> breeze is most
19:52:34 JenniferW -> meaning -- they start feeling you are in partnership??
19:52:41 Durff -> actually
19:52:46 JenniferW -> what is free??
19:52:47 Sharon -> would they permit ETT to allow competitors to also advertise here?
19:52:56 Durff -> no money = free
19:53:05 Cathy E -> what if we love it- then they want to stop?
19:53:09 JenniferW -> What about YUGMA???
19:53:18 Durff -> wrong? not doing it
19:53:22 JenniferW -> could you still use them on Sunday??? or do you have to use ELLUMINATE??
19:53:37 Durff -> 2 months?
19:53:40 JenniferW -> will you only be able to use THEIR software??
19:53:41 Durff -> com' on
19:53:45 cathy n -> i find elluminate a bi cumbersome
19:53:49 JohnSchinker -> We tend to lean toward free tools, but the people who make them can't really afford a big advertising deal.
19:53:51 cathy n -> bit
19:53:55 JenniferW -> I like that you don't have your STAMP on anything but education
19:54:00 Durff -> hi greypath
19:54:01 Lee Baber -> really good beer
19:54:21 JoseR -> I like the beer idea
19:54:22 Sharon -> Yugma doesn't offer all the features - like audio
19:54:29 JoseR -> german
19:54:29 greypath -> Hi Its 10Am here what time is it there?
19:54:34 JohnSchinker -> Dave picks good beer
19:54:36 Sharon -> am going with the beer idea - as long as it is not American beer
19:54:47 JenniferW -> I think it is GOOD that you say NO.
19:54:50 Durff -> Sprechen Sie Deutsch
19:54:55 Lee Baber -> they would be canned at that point
19:55:02 cathy n -> estern continental US = 7:55pm
19:55:03 JenMad -> it is currently 8 pm in the Eastern US
19:55:04 JohnSchinker -> Beer is free too: http://www.freebeer.org/blog/
19:55:04 JenniferW -> this is a small hurdle -- you will have bigger ones that will be harder to say NO to
19:55:08 Sharon -> hi greypath - here it is almost 8 PM
19:55:25 Durff -> 7:55
19:55:28 Lee Baber -> we wanted to call our bluegrass band Free Food and Beer
19:55:42 greypath -> Is this the video academy ?
19:55:43 Sharon -> but for some of us, it is qute
19:55:45 Lee Baber -> we thought it would be sure to draw a crowd
19:55:56 greypath -> TA for the times
19:56:00 JohnSchinker -> Lee likes to incite riots at her gigs
19:56:05 JoseR -> Using Elluminate as a venue does not give them right over content, right?
19:56:08 Sharon -> oops, bad typing - greypath - it is a different time zone
19:56:18 Sharon -> LOL at Lee
19:56:20 DS -> Greypath, this is the "post show" from EdTech Weekly
19:56:23 Durff -> would dave agree to anything?
19:56:23 Lee Baber -> oh yes...it sells lots of cds
19:56:33 Sharon -> dave would agree to beer
19:56:34 Durff -> ever?
19:56:42 Sharon -> always
19:56:42 cheryl -> i remember
19:56:45 JenniferW -> I don't need compensation -- thank you
19:56:49 Durff -> oh beer...beasty beer
19:56:52 Lee Baber -> REally really good beer
19:56:56 Sharon -> although occasionally he will defer to wine
19:57:11 JoseR -> It isn't a blackboard deal right, content would be available at our sites?
19:57:15 JenniferW -> I owe you more than you could ever compensate me
19:57:15 Sharon -> (meaning, NOT American beer)
19:57:47 JoseR -> Elluminate This?
19:57:48 JohnSchinker -> The best beer in the world is made in America.
19:58:11 JenniferW -> CathyE -- how is your drupal going??
19:58:15 JohnSchinker -> It's just not made by the giant macrobreweries
19:58:27 dave -> john --> no it isn't.
19:58:35 JohnSchinker -> Anyone work with Elluminate @ K-12 Online?
19:58:40 JenniferW -> how much is elluminate -- I thought $1200 a year??
19:58:40 greypath -> Im trying to sort out how all this fits with video casting techniques education. Could somone kindly email me at [email protected] with a what its all about, as coming to it cold, is very confusing?
19:58:51 Durff -> and beasty dave's objections
19:58:55 JenniferW -> John --- only last year, K12
19:59:16 JoseR -> Did you mention how monies are generated?
19:59:21 JenniferW -> did they contact you via email or REAL mail??
19:59:22 Sharon -> greypath - here we offer webcast training - not videocasting
19:59:41 JoseR -> Jenn you mean snail mail
19:59:46 JenniferW -> Elluminte is $99 a year??
19:59:50 JoseR -> all mail is real mail
19:59:53 JenniferW -> LOL -- yes
20:00:10 Durff -> real is an illusion
20:00:35 JoseR -> Hosting on own servers?
20:00:52 Lee Baber -> Durff... here is the picture of the banjo and me a long time ago! http://web.mac.com/lbaber/iWeb/LeeBaber/lee.html
20:01:06 greypath -> Ok Ta. Im well across webcasting to my seniors demographic, and am moving to video, so its not quite for me. A:p terminology problem on my part. Good luck to you all
20:01:27 Durff -> you're so pretty lee!
20:01:49 Durff -> it's free
20:01:51 DS -> take care Greypath--stop by again any time
20:02:05 Miz Mercer -> Anyone else work on migration to Oracle projects?
20:02:06 JoseR -> the code,
20:02:25 greypath -> Thanks. Bye for now folks...
20:02:32 Durff -> bye
20:02:34 Sharon -> Alice, could you explain what you mean by Oracle projects
20:02:35 JoseR -> I agree with Dave; so where's my beer?
20:02:35 Lee Baber -> bye
20:02:55 dave -> lol
20:02:55 Durff -> only beasty beer
20:03:00 JoseR -> German please
20:03:04 dave -> yous funny JoseR
20:03:06 Miz Mercer -> SQL database migration, THOSE are expensive, and then they "sell" consultants to straigten it out.
20:03:06 JohnSchinker -> Jose, the Beer's in my fridge. Everyone's welcome to stop by and help themselves.
20:03:10 Durff -> auf Deutsch?
20:03:20 JenniferW -> do you have an operating budget you are NOT meeting??
20:03:24 JoseR -> nah
20:03:28 Durff -> oder bier auf Deutschland?
20:03:30 dave -> moi j'aime les poptart
20:03:32 Sharon -> dimdim only works on PC, not mac??
20:03:39 JenMad -> JW: A hosted dimdim installation is $99
20:03:40 Sharon -> ahhhh
20:03:41 JohnSchinker -> JDub, I think Jeff's footing most of the bill.
20:03:44 Miz Mercer -> Dave you are a poptart, sometimes
20:03:46 JoseR -> John; Leave night light on.
20:03:52 Durff -> poptarts a la beasty?
20:03:59 JenniferW -> what about the grant though??? does that help??
20:04:03 Lee Baber -> thanks durff
20:04:13 Durff -> welcome
20:04:14 Sharon -> moi aussi, moi aussi!
20:04:17 JohnSchinker -> Jose, the beer fridge is in the basement next to the pinball machine.
20:04:19 JenniferW -> 60 days is a short time -- or it could be a VERY long time
20:04:40 JoseR -> So, Elluminate and others want access to our districts and the like?
20:04:53 Durff -> i think we would be foolish not to take this
20:05:03 sroseman -> interesting conversations and links..gotta get ready to go canoeing tomorrow
20:05:07 JohnSchinker -> I think it's worth trying it to see how it goes.
20:05:15 Sharon -> ooh... have fun Sue!
20:05:19 JenniferW -> do they have to be on EVERY page??
20:05:27 JenniferW -> the link to Elluminate??
20:05:34 JenMad -> Night, Sue!
20:05:34 Durff -> dave in beastyland for one month?
20:05:48 cathy n -> it seems they just want to ride coattails
20:05:56 Miz Mercer -> MONEY!
20:05:57 cathy n -> get some free pub
20:06:03 Miz Mercer -> Is both plus and minus
20:06:14 cathy n -> ig ett uses it, everyone should
20:06:20 Miz Mercer -> Is it a gateway drug, or is the money going to help us grow, and thrive.
20:06:20 JenniferW -> besides income??
20:06:28 Durff -> they should get the chat room log too
20:06:31 Sharon -> I am going off for a nice walk in the dusk - cheers all
20:06:39 JoseR -> So Elluminate envisions us as being able to influence our institutions to buy their product?
20:06:40 Durff -> cheers
20:06:45 cathy n -> watch skeeter Sharon
20:06:48 Brad Hicks -> suck it and see - if it doesn't work out reserve the right to withdraw at your discretion
20:06:53 Miz Mercer -> Jose, I know we're so powerful, lol
20:06:59 JenniferW -> what are two of the sites generating funds and the other ones NOT??
20:07:10 JohnSchinker -> Are they sponsoring anyone else at the moment?
20:07:13 JoseR -> I don't get it! We have 7Billion to spend in LA
20:07:21 Lee Baber -> I agree Jeff... it does
20:07:29 cathy n -> free pubicity
20:07:45 Miz Mercer -> Jose R. 7 bill is not a lot in the 2nd biggest or biggest darn school district in the country
20:07:46 Durff -> we are not talking about a lifetime here
20:07:52 JohnSchinker -> *grin*
20:07:53 cathy n -> its as if the tech educators are pushing it if it is here
20:07:56 JenniferW -> LOL -- and edit that out
20:07:56 JenMad -> speaking of beer ....
20:08:03 JoseR -> Open Source = ?
20:08:05 Durff -> we are talking about 2 months free Elluminate
20:08:10 cheryl -> hiatus JenM
20:08:16 JenMad -> :)
20:08:17 JenniferW -> enjoy your HIATUS!!!
20:08:30 JenniferW -> Dual PostShot!!!
20:08:33 JenniferW -> PostShow!!
20:08:35 cheryl -> WOW2 is enjoying theirs
20:08:40 JoseR -> Is this a forum?
20:08:44 Lee Baber -> WOOHOO
20:08:46 JenniferW -> 54 minute graduation cast -- made me laugh
20:08:51 DS -> yes, have a great hiatus
20:08:55 JenniferW -> does it have to be an HOUR??
20:08:59 cathy n -> chow
20:09:00 JoseR -> Elluminate This; Right, dave
20:09:10 JenniferW -> August 23 -- Happy Day
20:09:11 Durff -> so do we have a paypal acount?
20:09:16 Miz Mercer -> Can I chat about arming teachers?
20:09:23 JenniferW -> I tried the [email protected]
20:09:27 Durff -> or does the billpayer?
20:09:27 JenniferW -> didn't work --
20:09:36 JenniferW -> my sister is August 23rd
20:09:42 Durff -> arming?
20:09:43 DS -> no ETBS for me this week, will post at webacastacademy to see if any interns are interested
20:09:46 Durff -> guns?
20:09:47 JoseR -> arming teachers, That's in Oaxaca
20:09:48 Miz Mercer -> JW try [email protected]
20:09:53 JenniferW -> so is all ETT on vacation???
20:10:09 Miz Mercer -> JoseR. No, that's disarming teachers by the state
20:10:12 JenniferW -> no back up for WOW2???
20:10:17 Durff -> does he get a certificate?
20:10:27 JoseR -> Doug I can do ETBS special session on the 23rd
20:10:42 DS -> excellent Jose, thanks, appreciate it
20:10:51 Miz Mercer -> Communities?
20:11:10 JoseR -> Ok Miz Mercer, what's on your mind?
20:11:21 Miz Mercer -> http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2007/aug/08/566681889.html
20:11:36 JoseR -> How about idea of standing committee
20:11:37 Miz Mercer -> Jose, how do you feel about being armed?
20:11:43 DS -> just voted, both are good with me
20:11:49 Miz Mercer -> If we start making money...
20:11:55 Miz Mercer -> Hmm...
20:11:56 Durff -> give that man a badge
20:11:57 JenniferW -> I think WebCast Academy should cost
20:12:03 JenniferW -> I would pay $20 to be a part
20:12:05 Durff -> dave voted twive
20:12:13 Durff -> beastydave
20:12:23 JenniferW -> That is how much I make per student at www.lvsonline.com
20:12:23 JoseR -> ummmmm. I've been in schools in the innercity I feel a gun.... I just don't know
20:12:25 Lee Baber -> BADbeastyDAVE
20:12:28 JenniferW -> for teaching students
20:12:50 Miz Mercer -> YOU COULD BE A DEPUTY!
20:12:53 Durff -> JDub if you find a paypal tell me
20:13:04 Miz Mercer -> Comeon Jose, wouldn't that make you feel safer?
20:13:06 JenniferW -> okay
20:13:07 Durff -> he ccould have a hat
20:13:19 Miz Mercer -> Kid gets out of line, you could pistol whip 'em
20:13:21 JoseR -> innercity teachers in LA get a special combat stipend $1,000
20:13:33 Miz Mercer -> I know, I know they're in third grade, but they need to learn young
20:13:41 JenMad -> I thought he was for sure going to say, "Except for Jen" thanks for taking that one, John.
20:13:43 JenniferW -> JoseR -- do you teach in LA??
20:13:47 Miz Mercer -> Hmm, you need an operating manager or officer
20:13:54 JoseR -> Yep, Ms Corona
20:14:02 Miz Mercer -> Jose, how do they designate combat schools?
20:14:15 Lee Baber -> http://www.openads.org/
20:14:16 JenMad -> JoseR, meet JW ... JW, meet Jose R :)
20:14:19 JenniferW -> I am a result of the LA School District
20:14:22 JoseR -> innercity, census tract and the like
20:14:25 Miz Mercer -> Is it based on crime at school, or in neighborhood, or how few teachers are willing to work there.
20:14:30 Durff -> or going on hiatus
20:14:30 Miz Mercer -> Hey JW me too!
20:14:39 JenniferW -> very long time ago
20:14:49 Miz Mercer -> JW, H.S. class of 1983 here.
20:14:51 JenniferW -> not as a teacher -- as a student
20:14:55 JenniferW -> 1978 here
20:14:57 Miz Mercer -> Same here JW
20:14:58 JoseR -> Jenn you turned out ok could we use you on a poster?
20:15:16 JenniferW -> LOL -- I am sure you coudl find a better poster child :)
20:15:17 Miz Mercer -> Hmm, how did I turn out?
20:15:18 JoseR -> you to Miz Mercer
20:15:28 Brad Hicks -> well gotta go to work - cu later guys
20:15:35 Lee Baber -> bye brad
20:15:39 JoseR -> I grew up in OC behind the orange curtain
20:15:41 Miz Mercer -> Hardly, but I get by. And it was based on a system of trracking and racial inequality.
20:15:42 JenniferW -> I think it would be hard to regulate the money
20:15:43 DS -> cya Brad
20:15:46 Durff -> beasty dave the poster child of ett
20:15:48 JenMad -> John is funny :)
20:15:49 JenniferW -> would you pay by percentage???
20:16:00 Miz Mercer -> I benefited while others were kept down by the man.
20:16:04 JenniferW -> you can't pay an absolute amount -- because your funding might change month by month
20:16:12 Miz Mercer -> SOrry, I was channeling Angela Davis there for a minute
20:16:20 JoseR -> National Board teachers get to work and extra 90 hours for 15 grand
20:16:25 Durff -> how did it feel?
20:16:31 JenniferW -> MizMercer -- what city did you live in??
20:16:37 Miz Mercer -> San Fernando Valley
20:16:44 JenniferW -> ahhhh I was in Hawthorne
20:16:48 Miz Mercer -> In the middle of trying to implement busing. Not pretty
20:17:16 Miz Mercer -> Lots of white folks behaving badly, NOT as bad as Boston, but not nice things being said.
20:17:18 Durff -> oh! dave agrees?
20:17:22 Durff -> ever?
20:17:29 JenniferW -> Alice -- where are you now???
20:17:35 Durff -> w/ anyone?
20:17:42 Durff -> amazing!
20:17:49 Miz Mercer -> Sacramento by way of the Bay Area (20+ years in Oakland)
20:17:51 JoseR -> it's not unhead of an LA teacher that works 24/7 make over 100,000 a year even more than principals
20:17:59 JenniferW -> ahhhhh
20:18:06 Miz Mercer -> Jose, is that what you're trying to do?
20:18:14 Miz Mercer -> Cause you are ALWAYS working.
20:18:14 JenniferW -> JoseR -- what school or city are you at??
20:18:14 JoseR -> It's called milking the system
20:18:21 Miz Mercer -> SUmmer school, evening school, etc.
20:18:32 JoseR -> not that I subscribe to that philosophy, RIGHT
20:18:42 Miz Mercer -> Hey, I'd love a new USB mic!
20:18:43 JenniferW -> send it to CHERYL OAKES ---- (smiles)
20:18:44 cheryl -> Jen, Dave and Jeff, enjoy your couple weeks off. Headed to dinner.
20:18:58 Durff -> bye cheryl
20:19:00 jeff -> thanks - bon apetit
20:19:00 DS -> bye Cheryl
20:19:17 cheryl -> I'd love a new Mic. sweet
20:19:29 cheryl -> is that my graduation present Dave?
20:19:34 JoseR -> Jenn are you a consultant, no wait you are an IT person, wait... what do you do
20:19:34 Durff -> i'd like a new CPU
20:19:36 JenniferW -> Cheryl you can have all our compensations -- Sharon and Vicki would concur
20:20:00 JenniferW -> LOL -- JoseR -- by day, I am HELPDESK/IT -- by night, I host Online Projects for teachers
20:20:02 Durff -> beasty dave changing his mind?
20:20:11 cheryl -> thanks Jen, but I think the $ goes back into Edtechtalk. WB, WCA, and others.
20:20:13 Durff -> hold your hats!
20:20:20 JoseR -> I Knew it!
20:20:24 JenniferW -> YOu will be missed!!!
20:20:34 Miz Mercer -> http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2007/aug/08/566681889.html
20:20:36 JenniferW -> I enjoy Sunday Afternoons with ETT
20:20:45 JoseR -> same here.
20:20:53 cheryl -> Later gators.
20:21:00 Durff -> bye
20:21:17 JoseR -> Jeff and the gang are great. Too bad we also have to take care of the bills.
20:21:24 Durff -> i vote for ice
20:21:34 DS -> thanks all for another great show
20:21:41 Durff -> bye doug
20:21:52 DS -> enjoy the time off ETW gang
20:22:02 Durff -> jose does
20:22:06 JoseR -> NPR had a recent show on kids that beat up teachers
20:22:10 Durff -> deputise jose
20:22:22 JoseR -> I have a what?
20:22:37 DS -> guns don't kill people, teachers do!
20:22:44 Durff -> :)
20:22:46 JoseR -> ha, ha, ha
20:22:57 JenniferW -> you made me snort DS :)
20:23:06 DS -> maybe they should try tasers first ;)
20:23:07 JoseR -> School Police do carry guns in LA
20:23:24 Miz Mercer -> I'm just picturing the type of teacher who would WANT to do this...
20:23:26 JoseR -> District has it's own police department
20:23:27 Durff -> loaded?
20:23:34 Miz Mercer -> Oh yeah Lisa,
20:23:42 Durff -> sigh
20:23:45 JohnSchinker -> Police in the schools carry guns everywhere, don't they?
20:23:48 JenniferW -> This past Thursday -- I could have easily blown away a Tech Coord
20:23:49 Lee Baber -> Bye all
20:23:53 Miz Mercer -> They are sworn peace officers by the state of california
20:23:56 JenniferW -> so -- NO GUNS for JEN
20:24:04 JohnSchinker -> Easy, JDub. I'm not that bad
20:24:07 Miz Mercer -> Rest of us have local police or sherriff on loan
20:24:12 JenniferW -> LOL -- not you John
20:24:12 Durff -> put the guns away
20:24:25 JenniferW -> Luckily I was directed to a TIME OUT chair/
20:24:25 Miz Mercer -> I picture the guy who is like Don Knotts
20:24:42 Miz Mercer -> I wanna gun, I can handle it - uh NO! Heck NO!
20:24:43 JoseR -> OK Miz Mercer head off to East Covina
20:24:46 JenniferW -> see everyone in 2 weeks
20:24:50 Durff -> JDub you do it first
20:24:53 JohnSchinker -> bye everyone
20:24:56 Miz Mercer -> See It's E! folks tomorrow
20:25:01 JenniferW -> Enjoy yourselves until then!!
20:25:05 Durff -> bye all
20:25:13 JoseR -> bye
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