Women of Web 2.0.9
Women of Web 2.0.9
January 1, 2007
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| dthaggard | Jen can you give me suggestions on places to check out to learn how to do a podcast with my class? |
| JenniferW | Donna -- where are you again |
| JL | Will standby in case any backup is needed |
| JenniferW | ahhh -- my newsletter just talked about that -- did you get it today?? |
| JenniferW | let me grab the link |
| dthaggard | savannah |
| JenniferW | AHHHH -- that is right |
| JenniferW | my new home soon!!! Hope Hope |
| JenniferW | I have an extra microphone -- however, I am not close enough to drop it off |
| JenniferW | JL -- you might want to skypechat CO |
| JenniferW | something about a server |
| dthaggard | I have looked at several, but want to purchas a couple to use at school |
| JenniferW | http://www.technospud.com/newsletter/Jan07_newsletter.pdf |
| JenniferW | newsletter link -- part 1 of podcasting |
| JenniferW | Hello SUE |
| sroseman | Hi Jennifer |
| JenniferW | Happy New Year |
| sroseman | How was the parade |
| JenniferW | kinda boring |
| JenniferW | they took away my favorite commentator |
| sroseman | Happy New Year to you too |
| JenniferW | and I think I was having a pity party |
| sroseman | Who ? |
| sroseman | is your fav |
| JenniferW | Stephanie Edwards |
| JenniferW | KTLA channel 5 |
| JenniferW | they replaced her with a newbie |
| JenniferW | well, a semi newbie -- a news caster I don't really like |
| JenniferW | Happy New Year, Chris |
| sroseman | newbies seem to win out these days |
| cheryloakes wow2 | happy new year to you all |
| cheryloakes wow2 | hi chris |
| sroseman | ditto |
| charbeck1 | I was playing with flickr and left the stream open and all of a sudden there were voices |
| JenniferW | Yes, the older gentleman broadcaster of 30 years made a comment that I know will come back and bite him |
| cheryloakes wow2 | i hear voices |
| dthaggard | jen would you please resend me the link i got booted and lost the link |
| JenniferW | http://www.technospud.com/newsletter/Jan07_newsletter.pdf |
| sroseman | great newsletters from you guys |
| cheryloakes wow2 | thanks, glad youliked it |
| JenniferW | we need to correct Lee Baber name wrong |
| JenniferW | we need proofers to proof the proofers |
| cheryloakes wow2 | no proofing on Newyears eve |
| charbeck1 | Jen It was my mic. I needed a usb mic for the mini |
| charbeck1 | So I am set up on the pc to do any skypecasting |
| sharonp | hey, wow , chris is here with the bunch! |
| sharonp | am online and ready to go |
| charbeck1 | I will go to the other machine in a second |
| cheryloakes wow2 | okay chris |
| sroseman | how do I get into the Skypecast again. I don't see it listed |
| charbeck1 | could someone call me |
| cheryloakes wow2 | I'll bring y ou in Chris, Susan what is yo ur skype name |
| sroseman | tedandsue |
| sroseman | not listed here |
| sroseman | https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/ongoing?offset=21 |
| cheryloakes wow2 | I'll look for you tedandsue |
| cheryloakes wow2 | just o pen your skype and I"ll look for you. |
| cheryloakes wow2 | no skypecast |
| sroseman | or is it sueandted |
| cheryloakes wow2 | stiill don't see you sue |
| dave | happy 07 all |
| cheryloakes wow2 | alice do you want to come in? |
| alicebarr | sure |
| sharonp | welcome Vicki |
| cheryloakes wow2 | happy 2007 Dave, How has your weekend been? |
| coolcatteacher | Hello everyone. |
| dave | very nice thanks. |
| CathyE | cevanoff |
| cheryloakes wow2 | okay, cathy |
| alicebarr | cheryl Skypcast? |
| cheryloakes wow2 | no skypecast, just skype |
| alicebarr | Ok I'm on |
| sroseman | Can you see me online |
| sharonp | dave, as in dave cormier...?? |
| dave | yes. |
| dave | that's me |
| sharonp | wow |
| sharonp | you live |
| cheryloakes wow2 | not yet susan |
| dave | i've come back to the land of the living |
| dthaggard | i have a very unhappy principal she was at the bowl game cheering for ga tech |
| coolcatteacher | Yes, it looked like we were going to win there for a little while. |
| coolcatteacher | Very high scoring game. |
| cheryloakes wow2 | i had to add you as a contact susan, hang in |
| dthaggard | yes, but new qb did well |
| coolcatteacher | Yes, he did very well. |
| coolcatteacher | I wish Calvin Johnson would say but I doubt it. |
| coolcatteacher | He was amazing! |
| dthaggard | are you in ga |
| coolcatteacher | Yes, Camilla, GA and I graduated from Georgia Tech. |
| coolcatteacher | But I am 3 1/2 hours from Atlanta. |
| sroseman | I am on I think |
| dthaggard | I was in Camilla once. |
| sroseman | Can anyone bring me in |
| cheryloakes wow2 | Susan, I saw you as a contact, but not in my list yet |
| cheryloakes wow2 | now you are, ready? |
| cheryloakes wow2 | susan you did not last |
| mrichme | we still have ice in southwest Maine |
| dthaggard | We wish we had snow |
| CathyE | We are in shorts here in NC |
| dave | you guys are so cute when you talk about snow... |
| dave | groups are gripeable |
| cheryloakes wow2 | post the link in the chat pleas |
| dave | http://budtheteacher.typepad.com/ |
| cheryloakes wow2 | thanks, dave |
| dave | skype for mac crashes on me too often |
| sharonp | isn't it all just semantics? |
| cheryloakes wow2 | don't jinx me dude! |
| dave | oh no. |
| dave | it is much more important than a simple semantical debate |
| sharonp | do tell |
| dave | groups also require a single, unified goal |
| sharonp | who is defining these terms? |
| dave | where networks allow for people with separate goals to work together when it happens to be convenient or useful |
| dave | that, at least, is the distinction that Stephen makes |
| dave | and one that I often find very useful |
| dave | how do groups make you accountable? |
| dave | i would like to hear more about that |
| dave | definetely room for both groups and networks |
| sharonp | still want to know who is making these distinctions? |
| cheryloakes wow2 | Hi Michael from Maine |
| mrichme | howdy |
| dave | the terms 'can |
| dave | be interchangeable |
| dave | but not in the sense that stephen means |
| sharonp | exclusionary? No - we want to make this inclusive... |
| cheryloakes wow2 | this is inclusive |
| CathyE | Bud seems to have a lack of things to blog about |
| cheryloakes wow2 | or maybe stirring the pot |
| dave | Bud and I have talked about this at length... it is very important to him |
| dave | it is certainly not from a lack of time |
| sharonp | Dave - you want to join us in the skype |
| dave | http://budtheteacher.typepad.com/bud_the_teacher/2006/12/how_would_you_s... |
| cheryloakes wow2 | no jinxing me dave |
| sharonp | we think you need to have the floor a bit |
| dave | call me in if you like :) |
| dave | i don't know who's hosting |
| sharonp | Cheryl is hosting |
| dave | i'm not on my mac |
| dave | this is my PC! |
| cheryloakes wow2 | Dave am I your friend? |
| coolcatteacher | No cliques here! |
| dave | you were... |
| cheryloakes wow2 | my skype would not accept you, Dave |
| dave | i've been having problems with losing those lately |
| coolcatteacher | Yes, when we listed women of web 2 in the skypecast we kept getting people looking for dates - for those who weren't here for the fun. |
| cheryloakes wow2 | I'll try again Dave |
| cheryloakes wow2 | sue we lost you? |
| sroseman | What is happening? |
| cheryloakes wow2 | Susan I am skype chatting |
| mrichme | here is the link to the steven downes picture of groups and networks: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephen_downes/252157734/ |
| Terry_Freedman | there is far too much frivolity here |
| cheryloakes wow2 | Happy New Year Terry!!! |
| coolcatteacher | Sorry, Terry. We are on a 30 second delay and this isn't our regular thing. |
| JenniferW | here is the link to the pictures of Montreal that Sue was praising Sharon on -- http://www.technospudprojects.com/Projects/christmas/webalbumchr06.htm |
| coolcatteacher | But Dave is really giving some good stuff now! |
| Terry_Freedman | Happy New Year |
| sharonp | Terry! Nice to see you here! |
| sroseman | very nice, Jen |
| Terry_Freedman | thx |
| sroseman | a good collection of photos from everywhere |
| charbeck1 | nice rock pictures terry |
| Terry_Freedman | thx. LOL |
| cheryloakes wow2 | hm, it is a women's perspective about the web 2.0 tools |
| dave | http://opensource.christophercraft.com/wp-content/downes_network.jpg |
| CathyE | You ladies are doing a WONDERFUL job! Don't change a thing |
| cheryloakes wow2 | thanks cathyeeeeee! |
| TerryFreedman | I think the name is (a) misleading and (b) exclusive in the worst possible sense! |
| cheryloakes wow2 | any ideas? Terry? our missing statement is so inclusive |
| coolcatteacher | Have you seen our mission statement. |
| cheryloakes wow2 | I mean mission statement |
| sroseman | Keep your mandate ...maybe define your mission |
| TerryFreedman | no I haven't, but I think names are important, not mission statements |
| TerryFreedman | I don't like to feel that I'm an honorary woman |
| TerryFreedman | LOL |
| coolcatteacher | To provide a professional feminine voice in educational Web 2.0 discusssions to reflect the female dominated classroom. The women of web 2.0 are female but all discussions will move across gender, race, and country lines and display the beautiful diversity of the internet kaleidoscope. We are advocates for professional ethics, emerging technologies, collaborative projects, quality best practices research, and teaching students critical thinking skills. We are non-partisan and pro-student. |
| TerryFreedman | thx |
| dave | the cut across there was a perfect example |
| dave | the speaker, male, cut off three female speakers in a row |
| mrichme | I know that I was intimidated by the name but I checked it out because of the topic and lurked around but I was pleasantly surprised by the gender-neutral tone! Thanks for having the great conversations around technology and education. |
| TerryFreedman | well, fair enuf: I am behind in my reading |
| coolcatteacher | Sorry, Terry. Hope to get up with you soon about flat classroom. |
| coolcatteacher | We're a little off topic tonight. |
| TerryFreedman | it isn't even women of web2, but North American womena of web 2, given the timing of most webcasts |
| TerryFreedman | no prob Vicky |
| sharonp | yes, Terry, we have talked about that |
| TerryFreedman | I did a load of work on it this morning |
| TerryFreedman | sorry Sharon |
| TerryFreedman | I will shut up |
| lee | Hi Terry |
| sharonp | no, your voice is appreciated |
| TerryFreedman | except to say: I support everything u r doing |
| lee | hello all |
| TerryFreedman | Note that the 2nd ed of Coming of Age has 50% women contributors now |
| sharonp | CoA rocks! I know, Terry, that having more female voice was important to you |
| TerryFreedman | yes. I walk the walk. I have written about getting more girls to move into IT careers |
| TerryFreedman | + publicly critcised a patronising attempt to do so |
| cheryloakes wow2 | terry I have an opening in skype are you in? |
| CathyE | This 4 ladies have empowered people to use the new tools that are available to educate the students we encounter. |
| sharonp | exactly |
| TerryFreedman | + appointed women Heads of department and advisors cos they were the best for the job |
| sharonp | we need to keep the discourse going |
| TerryFreedman | Cheryl, how would I know? |
| cheryloakes wow2 | I'll bring you in to the conference |
| sharonp | Cheryl will drag you in |
| sharonp | (kicking and screaming??0 |
| TerryFreedman | i love being dragged |
| TerryFreedman | lol |
| cheryloakes wow2 | sure Terry |
| charbeck | I do not think that he disagrees with what is happening here |
| coolcatteacher | Better than "drug" like they say here. |
| TerryFreedman | i can here two lots now |
| charbeck | I love world bridges |
| cheryloakes wow2 | turn off your stream, then use yo ur headphones and mic |
| cheryloakes wow2 | you are right chris |
| charbeck | sometimes the website can be too rich. You need to spend time instead of just reading the header\ |
| coolcatteacher | World Bridges is great! |
| coolcatteacher | I think I hear Terry or someone typing. |
| TerryFreedman | me, sorry |
| dave | like vance stevens' webheads |
| dave | for the 2002 evo conference |
| coolcatteacher | I'd like to hear from Terry. |
| TerryFreedman | I got nothing useful to say |
| cheryloakes wow2 | sure, Terry is in . |
| cheryloakes wow2 | Terry, Just say brillant, I love when you say that when we were skyping last week! |
| TerryFreedman | lol |
| coolcatteacher | We must keep the long tail in perspective, I think that Dave really hit the nail on the head. |
| coolcatteacher | That makes a lot of sense. |
| dave | we've discussed it already! |
| coolcatteacher | Hee Hee |
| dave | :) |
| lee | Is there a skypecast? |
| cheryloakes wow2 | sorry, no skypecast tonight |
| lee | k |
| CathyE | So you should be so PROUD |
| dave | dave of web2 |
| CathyE | and don't change your goals |
| sharonp | no one would join dave of web2 |
| sharonp | a community of one |
| dave | i would. |
| dave | i might join it twice. |
| dave | with two different email addresses |
| lee | three.. |
| lee | as they say "me, myself and I" |
| cheryloakes wow2 | yes lee, or multiple personalities |
| dave | that's a cool point terry. about who's fault it is. |
| sharonp | bonnie *might* join it, just to be nice |
| dave | no. she wouldn't. :) |
| TerryFreedman | thanks, Dave |
| sharonp | most of the men who have shown interest have been pleasantly surprised by how welcome they have been |
| TerryFreedman | I have never felt unwelcome |
| coolcatteacher | Thank you, Terry for contributing. |
| TerryFreedman | yw |
| sharonp | sorry Terry, should have said that you were welcome to join us - thought you knew! |
| dave | that is a nice point |
| CathyE | I use Women of Web 2 to promote women in technology to my students cause as Thomas Friedman says- "Girls, finish your homework-people in China and India aree starving for your jobs." |
| cheryloakes wow2 | yes right |
| sharonp | Actually, I think we need to have this discussion every once in a while |
| dave | i admire your honesty Terry. |
| sharonp | Business and IT is dominated by men |
| TerryFreedman | ty, Dave |
| cheryloakes wow2 | this is a great conversation, makes me think too of the Zoe's room for girls and technology |
| sharonp | I have felt awkward going into Tech meetings and being in a very small minority |
| dave | keeping gender issues on the front burner is useful |
| cheryloakes wow2 | yes |
| dave | the question is... I guess... is that something that you want to do |
| charbeck | Aye vey what did I start. Sorry again |
| sharonp | AND being condescended to.... on occasion, because I am blonde woman |
| dave | :) |
| dave | and me, as a father, from almost every woman i meet... these things exist all over our culture |
| sharonp | However, I have often gone to meetings or workshops where I have been greatly welcomed for providing a female perspective |
| dave | must go folks... sorry to leave such a cool conversation |
| coolcatteacher | Thanks, Dave. |
| dave | kutgw |
| TerryFreedman | bye, Dave |
| cheryloakes wow2 | thanks for coming in dave |
| dave | bye all. |
| dave | my pleasure |
| dave | great convo |
| dave | cheers. |
| charbeck | The bottom line is that this is a group that helps all and is inclusive to all. This is a terminal(bus or airport!!) where we can pick a destination for further learning. How is that for a metaphor? |
| lee | bye dave |
| sharonp | thanks Dave - as usual - thought-provoking stuff |
| coolcatteacher | Great metaphor. |
| coolcatteacher | Thanks Terry. |
| coolcatteacher | Terry is great! |
| sharonp | saw the techlearning blog |
| sharonp | great stuff |
| JenniferW | thanks Dave |
| JenniferW | I didn't know it was you for a while |
| lee | i have experienced a ton of pressure (prejudice..etc. ) about being a woman in my previous careers |
| cheryloakes wow2 | lee, keep plugging away! |
| JenniferW | I think I was over sensitive at necc -- there were many women involved |
| JenniferW | but where they put Kathy Schrock really stood out to me |
| cheryloakes wow2 | Jen, I felt the same thing when I listened to the men's panel |
| lee | banjo players dont like to acknowledge women as being as good or better as the men :) |
| lee | so nooottt true |
| sharonp | you know, at my school, they are now promoting learning styles specifically for males, trying to make up for the stats that show that the boys are way behind now in academic progress.... brought up some interesting discussion about females in IT - who are in the minority, to be sure |
| sharonp | Discourse |
| sharonp | is importatn |
| sharonp | about these matters |
| coolcatteacher | It is important. |
| coolcatteacher | It hit us like a baseball out of the closet. |
| TerryFreedman | I've enjoyed talking to u all |
| coolcatteacher | Thank you too, Terry. I'm going to look at the wiki now. |
| sharonp | Terry, your perspective is always most welcome |
| TerryFreedman | I've got about halfway thru Vicky, and will do more tomorrow |
| TerryFreedman | it was |
| coolcatteacher | OK, we just need to get to the top 5. |
| CathyE | You go Girls! |
| coolcatteacher | the last several are very strong! |
| JL | Perhaps a 'Miss WoW' contest so we can get you ladies into Wikipedia :) |
| JL | got the chat, no worries |
| TerryFreedman | I am pleased I graced this arena with my presence |
| TerryFreedman | LOL |
| TerryFreedman | really? pass them on to me |
| coolcatteacher | :D |
| charbeck | Thanks everyone |
| TerryFreedman | the web is full of eejits |
| charbeck | Was there a topic? |
| coolcatteacher | I just like WOW2 |
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