EdTechWeekly #97
admin - Mon, 2008-10-06 11:37
18:44:37 dave -> hi
18:44:55 dave -> call me backpllease
18:55:52 mrsdurff -> what #?
18:55:57 mrsdurff -> 91?
18:56:01 mrsdurff -> 99?
18:56:15 mrsdurff -> ty
18:58:00 Gary -> Too much pleasureabout the beer
18:58:10 mrsdurff -> dave justisn't listening when we are obnoxious
18:58:16 sheila -> you mean thosesnarky people?
18:58:23 mrsdurff -> yup
18:58:37 Gary -> See they don'tpay attention to us in any case
18:58:46 mrsdurff -> the creamwill never rise
18:58:58 mrsdurff -> no gary theydon't
18:59:10 mrsdurff -> when is thatsolstice thing?
18:59:16 mrsdurff -> hi alvin
18:59:23 Alvin Trusty -> hi
18:59:26 mrsdurff -> 97 jen
18:59:32 mrsdurff -> hi mharm
18:59:42 mrsdurff -> welcome tothe chaos
18:59:47 mrsdurff -> brb
18:59:50 mharm -> hi there
19:00:08 Gary -> Hello mharm
19:00:20 mharm -> what topic areyou addressing this evening?
19:00:29 Gary -> You ask for itand then ignore us
19:00:48 mrsdurff -> hey parisi
19:00:54 Lisa Parisi -> hello durff
19:01:08 Gary -> He or she willlearn
19:01:13 mrsdurff -> mharm see?they are chaotic
19:01:23 JenM -> @mharm...http://delicious.com/edtechtalk
19:01:27 mrsdurff -> lotsa add
19:01:41 JenM -> http://delicious.com/edtechtalk
19:01:44 mharm -> sorry it shouldbe nharm- Naomi Harm thanks for the invite on Twitter
19:01:59 mrsdurff -> smart is notthe word i would choose
19:02:00 Lisa Parisi -> Hello Peggy
19:02:03 mrsdurff -> hi peggy
19:02:26 PeggyG -> Hi all-almostlost track of time!
19:02:28 JenM -> http://delicious.com/edtechtalk/20081005
19:03:00 mrsdurff -> dippty do dah
19:03:05 mrsdurff -> hi pam
19:03:11 Lisa Parisi -> Hello Pam
19:03:16 mrsdurff -> hi cathy
19:03:16 Lisa Parisi -> Hi Cathy
19:03:18 shoemap -> Hi all!
19:03:29 PeggyG -> loving thestream!
19:03:29 Cathy E -> Hello All
19:03:33 mrsdurff -> jen does theintro better
19:03:39 JohnS -> :-b
19:03:47 JL -> http://mebeam.com/edtechtalk
19:03:52 mharm -> Greetingseveryonene-
19:03:58 PeggyG -> no video for me:-) I'll enjoy watching you
19:04:07 mrsdurff -> dave is on amerry go round
19:04:19 Lisa Parisi -> How manybeams fit on that page?
19:04:20 JenM -> http://mfeldstein.com/thomson-suing-zotero/ ...http://www.zotero.org/documentation/word_processor_integration
19:04:44 JohnS -> Y'all have toexcuse Dave tonight, folks. He's a bit disadvantaged on thehardware/software side.
19:05:55 JenM -> http://www.tamaleaver.net/2008/10/04/thomson-reutersendnote-sue-george-m...
19:06:32 JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/tools
19:07:07 PeggyG -> Now that isawesome Jeff! Great resource!!
19:07:24 PeggyG -> and we even getto rate them :-)
19:07:25 mrsdurff -> yeah thatwould be useful
19:07:46 Cathy E -> Jeff- the pageis great
19:07:56 Gary -> Great idea!
19:08:02 mharm -> hmmm- lost audiofrom the mebeam
19:08:09 PeggyG -> I'll bet thatlist is going to grow by leaps and bounds
19:08:21 Lisa Parisi -> how do wefind that on ETT?
19:08:33 mrsdurff -> I am
19:08:36 JohnS -> PrinterShare:http://www.printeranywhere.com
19:08:40 PeggyG -> can we sort thelist or is it just alphabetical order?
19:08:42 JL -> For now, link onForums/Tools up top
19:08:54 Lisa Parisi -> Ah..thanksJeff
19:09:18 mrsdurff -> idea - groupby tools?
19:09:21 JL -> If people areinterested, can add a more obvious link
19:09:31 Cathy E -> Ha - I wasusing PrintShare last week and all of a sudden people from India wereprinting to my printer
19:09:32 PeggyG -> you mean youcan print to your work computer from home? Wow!
19:09:35 mrsdurff -> yeah likepeggy said
19:10:08 PeggyG -> @Cathy E-nowthat's a scary thought! how do you prevent it?
19:10:09 dave -> http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs/english.html
19:10:23 PeggyG -> Yeah Dave!
19:10:24 Cathy E -> @ Peggy - Iuninstalled it
19:10:25 Cathy E -> :0
19:10:51 PeggyG -> delete! :-)
19:11:08 mrsdurff -> finallysomeone tells the truth! kudos to dave
19:11:21 Gary -> iBook G4 - oursstill works great - new harddrive
19:11:22 JohnS -> Did the shelffall down?
19:11:49 JenM -> Ebook ReaderUpdates (Kindle and Sony) ...http://mashable.com/2008/10/04/amazon-kindle-2/ ... and ...http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081003-sony-goes-after-kindle-wit...
19:12:25 PeggyG -> what's themaximum memory capacity for MacBookPro? Need more & thinnk I'mmaxed out
19:12:45 mrsdurff -> wow peggy - iwant to try that printshare!
19:13:02 mrsdurff -> my 8thgraders would love that!
19:13:05 mharm -> Thanks forsharing the printshare site with us!
19:13:21 JL -> http://aceonlineschools.com/frippery-froth-a-user-critique-of-online-dic...
19:13:33 mrsdurff -> mharm theirentire delicious links list is awesome
19:13:41 mrsdurff -> hi nancy
19:14:05 nancykeane -> Hidurff.
19:14:36 JL -> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html
19:15:27 mrsdurff -> i let youpeople do it john
19:15:37 mrsdurff -> i just usethe stuff
19:16:08 mharm -> Editors are notusing a lot in our western Wi area- teachers are usingww.sites.google.com and are bypassing the html code
19:16:17 Alvin Trusty -> TheMicrosoft Live software is nice for publishing online
19:16:46 JohnS -> Splicd:http://www.splicd.com/
19:16:47 Gary -> @mharm - but htmlis so much fun
19:16:55 mrsdurff -> for you
19:17:22 JohnS -> Example fromRandy Pauch's Last Lecture: http://splicd.com/ji5_MqicxSo/151/174
19:17:38 mharm -> I agree- i tooenjoy html- my teachers don't have the time- or are nnot willing tolearn
19:17:47 mrsdurff -> welcome back
19:17:53 Cathy E -> @JS whatformat does it save it in?
19:18:07 JohnS -> It just pointsack to the flash vid
19:18:07 PeggyG -> rats! gotbooted out :-(
19:18:14 JohnS -> back
19:18:15 mrsdurff -> because wehave people like you mharm
19:18:21 dave -> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/sep/29/cloud.computing.richard...
19:18:26 Gary -> It is old Dave
19:18:46 mrsdurff -> hi angela
19:19:17 angelamaiers -> Hi there!How are you all doing tonight?
19:19:29 mrsdurff -> weekend istoo short
19:19:43 mharm -> Hi Angela!
19:19:54 angelamaiers -> Yes itis! Still working on getting sound!
19:20:14 mrsdurff -> click thearrow to your right
19:20:25 angelamaiers -> @Durff-put another 8th grade lesson up today-love to see what your kids think!
19:20:28 PeggyG -> is there a wayto back up delicious and diigo bookmarks?
19:20:29 mrsdurff -> the big arrowon the ustream thumbnail
19:20:39 angelamaiers -> Yeah-Ihave sound!!!
19:20:54 angelamaiers -> What istonights topic?
19:21:01 nancykeane -> Just thethought of losing my delicious bookmarks makes my stomach hurt!
19:21:02 mrsdurff -> i alreadyposted lessons angela
19:21:16 mrsdurff -> will have tobe another week
19:21:19 angelamaiers -> Nancy-me,too! Bad thought!
19:21:32 dave -> @gary yeah... iknow it's old... i just don't remember the mac hotkeys
19:21:46 PeggyG -> @nancykeane-metoo! never thought about it-just trusting--this show is scaring me!
19:21:53 mrsdurff -> edtechweeklyis a fast roundup of links
19:22:01 mrsdurff -> with a gameshow at the end
19:22:02 JenM -> VIDEO ScreenCapture Fox ... http://www.advancity.net/eng/products/capturefox.html
19:22:07 mrsdurff -> $5
19:22:18 mrsdurff -> i wasexplaining to angela
19:22:25 JohnS -> It's ten becausethey mentioned your name.
19:22:26 dave -> JenM tested alink?@!??
19:22:29 mrsdurff -> notsuggesting anything dave
19:22:36 angelamaiers -> How doesit compare to snag it?
19:22:40 mrsdurff -> you aretouchy tonight
19:22:44 dave -> :)
19:22:58 mrsdurff -> it's thatapple computer
19:23:17 nancykeane -> OK justexported my delicious bookmarks. Feeling better.
19:23:35 mharm -> Jing Rocks!
19:23:41 mrsdurff -> did i missthat nancy
19:23:49 mrsdurff -> export themto what?
19:24:00 JL -> http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhn2vcv5_819cbw8pngh
19:24:03 PeggyG -> Jeff is anamazing Jing user-those short tutorials are so helpful!
19:24:15 JenM -> @dave can benasty ...
19:24:16 nancykeane -> justexported them to my harddrive. Now I don't have to worry about losingthem.
19:24:30 angelamaiers -> GreatQuestion!
19:24:36 Gary -> @ Dave - tryKeyCue http://www.macility.com/products/keycue/
19:24:41 mrsdurff -> oh i see nancy
19:24:53 JL -> http://www.yuuguu.com/newsletter/2008/09/29/yuuguu-supports-linux-custom...
19:24:59 mrsdurff -> what aboutcrossposting with Diigo?
19:25:02 JohnS -> Congress acts,sort of saves Internet radio:http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080930-congress-acts-sort-of-save...
19:25:21 mrsdurff -> see how theyare?
19:25:32 angelamaiers -> Do youhave the Twitter Question link?
19:25:50 JL -> Twitter link:http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhn2vcv5_819cbw8pngh
19:25:58 angelamaiers -> Thanks JL!
19:26:03 mharm -> how aboutfavtape?
19:26:29 mrsdurff -> have we allseen Jango?
19:26:39 Sarah S -> Bummer . . thecapture fox addon is only for windows.
19:26:52 dave -> http://www.nccmembership.co.uk/pooled/articles/BF_WEBART/view.asp?Q=BF_W...
19:27:12 mrsdurff -> go pc!
19:27:27 PeggyG -> @mrsdurff-don'tknow about Jango-tell us
19:28:03 angelamaiers -> Just dida presentation-asked 80 teachers about Web 2.0-only two could definewhat it was. Great link-thanks!
19:28:13 mrsdurff -> it's herehttp://www.jango.com/users/16496175/edit?l=0
19:28:27 mrsdurff -> i love it!
19:28:55 Alvin Trusty -> Just dida workshop. Asked 80 teacher about Delicious. Onlytwo knew what it was.
19:28:56 JenM -> Simple CC FlickrSearch ... http://johnjohnston.name/flickrCC/
19:29:11 mrsdurff -> it startsplaying on it's own
19:29:44 Alvin Trusty -> that's aFlickr term
19:29:48 mrsdurff -> pizza parlor
19:29:57 PeggyG -> Jango is cool!Thanks!
19:30:02 mrsdurff -> $5
19:30:03 Gary -> I found thatstrange also
19:30:32 mharm -> www.pics4learning.com
19:31:00 Alvin Trusty -> Here theinterestingness link - http://www.flickr.com/explore/interesting/
19:31:03 JL -> http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Pays+for+Searching+Til+April+2009+Fir...
19:31:16 mrsdurff -> hi maggir
19:31:20 mrsdurff -> maggie
19:32:02 JohnS -> Pixel Pipe:http://www.pixelpipe.com/
19:32:03 mharm -> http://ideas.wisconsin.edu (database collection copyright images)
19:32:32 JohnS -> SmushIT:http://smushit.com/
19:32:54 PeggyG -> glad youmentioned PixelPipe again-I bookmarked that and couldn't remember whotold me about it.
19:32:56 Alvin Trusty -> here isanother CC image search site - http://www.behold.cc/
19:33:29 mharm -> You sound good
19:33:33 PeggyG -> not wonky for me
19:33:37 dave -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32_nanometer
19:34:01 mrsdurff -> hi msomustek
19:34:23 msomustek -> eee, hi.first time over here. saw it it twitter!
19:34:30 msomustek -> in
19:34:42 Gary -> Thanks Alvin
19:34:48 mrsdurff -> green likeKermit?
19:34:58 JenM -> Study CurveSocial Networking Site: http://www.studycurve.com/
19:35:11 PeggyG -> I thought youmeant cleaning up your desktop (green) :-)
19:35:18 dave -> hey @msomustek
19:35:24 Alvin Trusty -> Floatyour machine in the ocean, ultimate green machine -http://gizmodo.com/5047050/google-patents-floating-server-farm-powered-b...
19:35:30 mrsdurff -> SimpleGreen -great product
19:35:35 msomustek -> hey dave
19:35:48 msomustek -> what's thebenes over Ning w/studycurve?
19:35:52 dave -> @msomustek areyou getting the audio?
19:35:57 msomustek -> yes
19:36:02 msomustek -> sounds good
19:36:13 JL -> http://www.spellingcity.com/
19:36:19 dave -> @msomustek thoseguys don't really know what they're taking about
19:36:39 angelamaiers -> I justchecked this out-spelling city is great!
19:36:51 JL -> http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSTRE4917QU20081002?feedTy...
19:37:22 JL -> http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2008/10/skype_president_addresses_chin.html
19:37:30 msomustek -> @dave whatguys in particular; most guys don't know what they're talking about :p
19:38:10 JenM -> Skype ...http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2008/10/skype_president_addresses_chin.html
19:38:23 mrsdurff -> jutecht
19:39:54 JohnS -> MAA Minute Math:http://maaminutemath.blogspot.com/
19:39:54 mrsdurff -> a clip fromJLs past
19:39:54 PeggyG -> hahaha!
19:39:54 dave -> @msomustek johnis particularly problematic... he's talking now
19:40:13 mrsdurff -> welcome backcathy
19:40:33 angelamaiers -> Hi Cathy!
19:40:36 dave -> http://edtechtalk.com/node/3353
19:40:41 msomustek -> might bebetter than Sudoku
19:41:11 Cathy E -> I ammulti-tasking and keep leaving chat - sorry
19:41:30 PeggyG -> some of us (me)are still trying to get caught up from week 1 of Connectivism
19:41:34 mrsdurff -> working tohard cathy
19:42:09 JenM -> George SeimensRecording from Madison Distance Learning Conf ...http://mediasite.ics.uwex.edu/pyle4/Viewer/Viewers/Viewer320TL.aspx?mode...
19:42:19 Gary -> Some of usavoided it from the start
19:42:23 mharm -> Go WI!
19:42:27 PeggyG -> love followingthe conversations and glad to have YOU ask the hard questions :-)
19:42:28 mrsdurff -> figures
19:43:20 JL -> http://www.thelocal.se/14688.html http://torrentfreak.com/slacker-uprising-bittorrent-takedown-sent-to-dns...
19:43:29 mharm -> WI has two unitsin WI- we are using for our WEMTA conference march 22-24, 2009
19:43:38 PeggyG -> Mediasite issometimes problematic on Macs--for some reason
19:43:44 JenM -> @mharm ... I grewup in Lodi and went to Madison for by BBA ...
19:43:50 JenM -> *my
19:44:20 Gary -> Michael Moore'smovie is also available through iTunes
19:44:22 PeggyG -> loveSlackerUprising-free rental from iTunes :-) 29 days rental
19:44:54 msomustek -> it does
19:45:01 mharm -> I use to live inWest Salem, WI- am the CESA #4 tech director there- but now live inBrownsville, MN.
19:45:08 mrsdurff -> the policyapplies to dave
19:45:17 JohnS -> Spectra:http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i//msnbc/Components/spectra/spectra.html
19:45:53 Alvin Trusty -> Spectraworks with Firefox.
19:46:05 PeggyG -> haveSlackerUprising on my iPod today :-) wonder if it has the same 24 hourlimit for viewing that it does on iTunes>
19:46:41 JohnS -> I'm using itwith firefox.
19:46:48 Gary -> @Peggy - samehere - did not use iTunes
19:46:51 dave -> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/police_iphone_left_in_hot_car_for
19:46:52 mrsdurff -> the look ofRSS to come - the future?
19:47:08 JenM -> PaperlessLearning Environments ...http://digitaldialogues.blogs.com/learning_technologies/2008/09/the-pape...
19:47:16 mrsdurff -> cream of thecrop?
19:47:33 Alvin Trusty -> No,Michigan beat them at home.
19:47:41 msomustek -> yeah, lookscool @JenM
19:47:42 mharm -> Go WI- thanksfor mentioning the cheddar head state many times tonight!
19:47:45 JohnS -> http://www.bucknuts.com/news/articles/2008/10/5/buckeyes-sing-happy-song...
19:48:02 dave -> @mharm that wouldbe for Jmad.
19:48:03 JohnS -> http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8639134?MSNHPHCP>1=39002
19:48:06 JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/node/3359
19:48:34 PeggyG -> have you seenthe CarbonRally challenges for going green? really informative and funto commit to different challenges
19:49:22 JohnS -> 18th FirstAnnual Ig Nobel Awards: http://improbable.com/ig/2008/
19:49:56 mrsdurff -> why is therealways one last link fifteen times?
19:50:20 PeggyG -> too funnymrsdurff!
19:50:31 mrsdurff -> no cream ofthe crop?
19:50:37 mrsdurff -> boo!
19:50:41 angelamaiers -> Tonightsshow was GREAT!
19:50:53 mharm -> Thanks for agreat show tonight!
19:51:05 msomustek -> hahaha
19:51:07 mrsdurff -> oh no!
19:51:09 PeggyG -> must have acelebration coming up for show 100 :-)
19:51:15 angelamaiers -> Just onemore please...
19:51:19 mrsdurff -> it was fun!
19:51:21 PeggyG -> great show!!thanks!
19:51:31 mrsdurff -> ignore dave
19:51:32 msomustek -> where?
19:51:48 mrsdurff -> herehttp://edtechtalk.com/node/3359
19:51:55 PeggyG -> add somethingto Jeff's list of tools? no problem :-)
19:51:56 JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/tools
19:52:08 mrsdurff -> so dave ishappy
19:52:55 angelamaiers -> Is therea link to cream of the crop tools
19:53:09 mrsdurff -> evidently not
19:53:16 mrsdurff -> tthey misledus
19:53:24 mrsdurff -> probably onpurpose
19:53:25 angelamaiers -> They needto make one!
19:53:31 mrsdurff -> i agree
19:53:45 PeggyG -> haha--ballotstuffing--do you care?
19:53:50 mrsdurff -> they had thatround on last week's show
19:54:05 dave -> @PeggyG yes. yeshe does care.
19:54:08 mrsdurff -> ballotstuffing? not fair!
19:54:17 mrsdurff -> me
19:54:22 Alvin Trusty -> only forthis chat
19:54:23 PeggyG -> I'm on ETTevery day!
19:54:24 DaveC -> besides today?
19:54:27 msomustek -> stuffing,tools, cream . . . :?
19:54:28 sheila -> rarely
19:54:54 PeggyG -> sometimes I login and sometimes I don't-was on this morning
19:55:12 angelamaiers -> How iscapture fox different than Snag it
19:55:46 Alvin Trusty -> Is therestill a free version of Snag It? My old link doesn't work anymore.
19:56:31 angelamaiers -> N0-Ithink it is about 40 bucks-I love it-well worth it. Is Capture Fox free
19:57:01 JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/node/3359
19:57:12 Alvin Trusty -> how do Irate something in /TOOLS
19:57:24 PeggyG -> curious if youthink the weekly newsletter is contributing to the future of ETT?
19:57:42 JenM -> @angela ...capture fox is free and it catpures video, but it appears to be Windowsonly ...
19:57:54 angelamaiers -> thanksJen!
19:57:57 mrsdurff -> Peggy willvolunteer
19:58:01 DaveC -> you need avolunteer to do that too.
19:58:19 Alvin Trusty -> mycomment went into moderation. how long until it makes thelist?
19:58:31 mrsdurff -> I volunteerto be a member at large
19:58:43 PeggyG -> I'm stillwaiting for some "role descriptions" before I volunteer for anythingmore
19:58:57 msomustek -> Maybe moredetail on... yeah, what @PeggyG said.
19:59:05 dave -> @Alvin irfan?
19:59:31 PeggyG -> I'm smiling atsome of these titles--pretty scary!
19:59:51 angelamaiers -> Have agreat night friends-gotta get kids ready for school Monday! Have aGREAT week!
19:59:58 mrsdurff -> how would onemoderate comments?
20:00:01 PeggyG -> Bye Angela
20:00:15 mrsdurff -> come againangela
20:00:17 JohnS -> Someone alreadyapproved them.
20:00:29 Alvin Trusty -> @dave yes
20:00:36 dave -> moderated it
20:00:39 JohnS -> BTW, if you login, you don't get moderated.
20:00:51 Alvin Trusty -> @dave howdo I add a rating?
20:01:04 mrsdurff -> yeah so coulda dummy like me moderate comments?
20:01:12 mrsdurff -> john?
20:01:18 PeggyG -> interestingdistinction with Worldbridges and ETT-always thought it was the otherway around
20:01:18 Cathy E -> @ Alvin - areyou logged in on the ETT page?
20:01:30 DaveC -> So a communityLiaison type person...
20:01:39 Alvin Trusty -> @CE yes,had to be logged in to make a comment.
20:01:52 Cathy E -> Click thestars to vote
20:02:12 Alvin Trusty -> Triedclicking the stars. Didn't do anything... that I could tell.
20:02:41 PeggyG -> the ETTcommunity is very strong and growing--more and more people are cominginto to be part of the conversations on all of the shows and cite it asone of their primary resources. I do!
20:02:52 mrsdurff -> hey drezac
20:02:54 DaveC -> @Alvin, firstyou need to click on the tool name to open the page on it. Then you'll see the voting stars
20:02:56 Cathy E -> @ AT click thetitle of the software first
20:02:59 Cathy E -> then the stars
20:03:26 drezac -> I know I'mlate, but I thought I'd see if I could cathc up
20:03:40 Alvin Trusty -> @CE triedthe main page and the program page. I only see the averageand can't click stars.
20:03:42 Gary -> Agree with Dave -am involved in other communities and often finances dominate what theleaders do (unfortunately).
20:03:46 DaveC -> I've been on anumber of committees and volunteer efforts, and the biggest problem ispeople keeping up with their commitment.
20:04:27 msomustek -> @DaveCabsolutely agree.
20:05:05 PeggyG -> I feel ifpeople feel their contributions are being valued (used) they willmaintain their commitment
20:06:18 Gary -> Agree with Jenalso - this is a place I come to that does not involve too muchcommitment on my part and I get away from other commitments
20:06:53 PeggyG -> There willalways be lurkers but some will get very involved and contribute a lot.It has worked great for 4 of us to share the newsletter work so eachdoes one week a month. Agree with your point
20:07:50 drezac -> People arestarting to have SOP many communities.
20:08:15 drezac -> We have tostart bringing them together or making a choice about where are timegoes
20:08:24 dave -> @drezac we dohave some somewhere... maybe http://edtechtalk.com/node/1492
20:09:25 DaveC -> What aboutpeople who have an idea for an episode, but not for a series?
20:10:10 DaveC -> Still earlyadopters....
20:10:15 PeggyG -> if you use acommon tag for ETT shows we can save the search on Tweetdeck and nevermiss a show. I use ETT and podcast and webcast but I don't get all ofthem that way. I follow ETT on Twitter too.
20:10:23 sheila -> Yes DaveC
20:10:25 JohnS -> yeah, DaveC.We've had that conversation, too. We used to do that in webcastathons.
20:10:35 Cathy E -> And you havethose of us who can't get our show posted
20:10:55 mrsdurff -> so dideveryone volunteer for something?
20:11:09 Gary -> This show goesmuch further than those that participate each week. Most ofus probably share many of the links.
20:11:56 PeggyG -> @Gary-excellentpoint--the show definitely goes mjuch further than those whoparticipate live and online.
20:12:14 DaveC -> Thesite/community is also mentioned on other shows. Plus, didn'tDave just make top 100 list of people to follow on twitter?
20:12:38 mrsdurff -> i don't thinkso
20:13:39 PeggyG -> didn't you sayonce that there are many more people subscribed to the showhostnewsletter than actual showhosts?
20:13:54 mrsdurff -> true
20:14:16 mrsdurff -> communitieswaver, sway, change
20:14:56 PeggyG -> what do youmean pacify the community?
20:15:19 dave -> did i say pacify?
20:15:29 PeggyG -> true-not a showhost and not in Skype chat for showhosts
20:15:47 PeggyG -> yes-I probablyspelled it wrong :-(
20:15:50 mrsdurff -> but we tellyou peggy
20:16:16 PeggyG -> I don't feelleft out at all-I don't need to be pacified :-) This is my favoritecommunity!
20:16:26 DaveC -> Download thelogs from China...
20:16:42 mrsdurff -> are thereshowhosts who are not in the skype chat?
20:17:00 Gary -> and probablythose of us that don't participate at that level probably have reasonsfor that.
20:17:03 PeggyG -> Greatsuggestion Jen
20:17:23 mrsdurff -> watch outgary - dave in on a run
20:17:31 dave -> :)
20:17:33 DaveC -> @Gary, right! Noone should take lack of participation for lack of appreciation or lackof caring. Sometimes it is just time.
20:18:08 dave -> well... that'strue for jeff
20:18:10 mrsdurff -> it wasn'tthat easy for us
20:18:20 mrsdurff -> were wespecial?
20:18:33 mrsdurff -> what wouldhappen? john would do it
20:18:35 sheila -> So a smaller"executive board?"
20:18:39 dave -> john does it now
20:18:50 mrsdurff -> exactly
20:19:26 mrsdurff -> please do JL
20:19:31 Gary -> @DaveC - thanks -I am deeply involved in 2 other groups - EdTechWeekly is part of myescape (as strange as that may sound)
20:19:48 PeggyG -> I think it'sthe names of all of those "commitees" that are scary :-)
20:20:41 PeggyG -> this is a lotlike "parent involvement"-everyone can't be involved in the same waysbut it doesn't mean they don't care.
20:20:43 mrsdurff -> volunteerPeggy
20:21:10 PeggyG -> I did volunteerto help with the newsletter
20:21:15 drezac -> This communityhas helped me in my early days of my career very much.
20:21:24 sheila -> Some people arevisionaries and others are doers; each can play a role.
20:21:57 mrsdurff -> and thatmight happen
20:22:01 mrsdurff -> :)
20:23:18 DaveC -> Is there apriority of placement of people? Looking at the list, there are a lotof position and only so many people able to step up right now.
20:23:28 PeggyG -> yes Sheial-andsome are both visionaries and doers :-)
20:23:35 Gary -> In groups I aminvolved in money is very important and takes a great deal oftime. As a result those that are involved at that levelvolunteer or are elected for fixed periods of time.
20:23:59 JohnS -> It's an ideal,with a lot of sustainability built in. Realistically, we would havepeople in more than one position.
20:24:05 JohnS -> Ghost runner onfirst.
20:24:08 PeggyG -> I don't thinkthe "community" knows there is a need
20:24:10 mrsdurff -> what? I am
20:24:17 mrsdurff -> just multitasking
20:24:24 sheila -> @Peggy - Iagree.
20:24:37 mrsdurff -> i will get toit then - volunteering for sth
20:24:42 drezac -> This needs totip, a la the Tipping Point
20:25:04 PeggyG -> this show talksabout the organizational planning but it doesn't get mentioned on othershows
20:25:10 DaveC -> Titles scare me,they don't always describe the position.
20:25:22 mrsdurff -> a paypalbutton like we did for Lee
20:25:32 Gary -> Many groups haveexecutive directors who get paid to do the day to day work.
20:25:48 drezac -> 5013c?
20:26:04 dave -> @drezac 75% donethe application process
20:26:07 Gary -> The executive maygive guidance but does not do most of the things
20:26:10 JohnS -> @drezacEducation Bridges is moving in that direction.
20:26:16 drezac -> Gotcha!
20:26:30 sheila -> We had some ofthe same issues with NHSTE - started looking in to Going from Good toGreat for non-profits. There are issues with volunteers.
20:26:31 JohnS -> 501c3 isUS-specific, though.
20:27:09 drezac -> so you can'tget money from overseas...
20:27:27 JohnS -> we can, it justgets more complicated.
20:27:33 Cathy E -> So we just getrid of every bus
20:27:45 DaveC -> I can help withthat part... (hosting)
20:27:50 mrsdurff -> 2009?
20:28:38 PeggyG -> some peoplemight be willing to make donations towards the server when they don'thave time to commit
20:28:56 mrsdurff -> i think so too
20:28:57 Gary -> Many of us wouldprobably pay for some sort of supporting membership
20:29:06 drezac -> Can anyone justcreate their own show here?
20:29:07 mrsdurff -> dave nixesall my ideas
20:29:17 mrsdurff -> you suggestpeggy
20:29:21 JohnS -> @Gary -- thatalso gets odd in an International arena.
20:29:23 PeggyG -> Yes-andsometimes when people pay something they contribute more
20:29:35 mrsdurff -> drezac - yes& no
20:30:05 JohnS -> @drezac newshows addressed here: http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/1492
20:30:15 mrsdurff -> most drezacgo thru webcastacademy
20:30:26 mrsdurff -> ah john foundit
20:31:09 mrsdurff -> benevolent?who said dave is kind?
20:31:26 PeggyG -> regardless ofsharing the "work" load I think there still needs to be leaders whocarry forward the vision
20:31:30 dave -> benevolence isn'talways about kindness :|
20:31:37 JohnS -> (John had apretty good idea where it was)
20:31:59 drezac -> Got that. Ijust wonder if it were more open for creating content, that you mighthave a more give and take community
20:32:59 mrsdurff -> good pt therejohn
20:33:19 mrsdurff -> i think weshould
20:33:30 mrsdurff -> despite thenaysayers
20:33:30 PeggyG -> is there a"blurp" that we could post in the newsletter very week about this kindof involvement? lots of peopple get that newsletter
20:33:36 DaveC -> Does anyone knowwhere the majority of people are located who participate?
20:33:49 DaveC -> (or follow shows)
20:33:51 mrsdurff -> north america
20:34:09 dave -> @DaveC there'ssome stuff around somewhere
20:34:19 DaveC -> Oz/Nz educatorsgroup has "feasts" from time to time to bring the community closer andadd faces to voices.
20:34:43 mrsdurff -> you have oneDaveC then i will attend
20:34:54 mrsdurff -> if you sendthe cab
20:35:05 drezac -> Thanks so much.I will continue to check out, and be a part of the community, as longas it's around.
20:35:06 PeggyG -> volunteers areessential--don't need/expect to be paid
20:35:06 DaveC -> I'll pick you upon the way :-)
20:35:44 Gary -> Jeff - notice howmany people stayed on to talk about this - it probably is important.
20:35:56 mrsdurff -> waot - idon't want paid
20:36:18 mrsdurff -> it is Gary
20:37:10 DaveC -> Well we're doingNECAP testing tomorrow, so I guess I'll write answers to some questionson the volunteer form.
20:37:21 Cathy E -> I love youJeff and Dave
20:37:25 Gary -> Thanks again!
20:37:27 PeggyG -> can you give ussome kind of plea/description we can put in the newsletter every weekto inform people about ways they can contribute?
20:37:45 DaveC -> hahah
20:37:49 sheila -> I want to seethat!
20:37:55 sheila -> "SEE"
20:37:57 mrsdurff -> i have workto do yet - miles to go before i sleep - nite!
20:38:01 PeggyG -> I didn't knowthis conversation was about structure :-)
20:38:07 Cathy E -> nite
20:38:11 DaveC -> nite all.
20:38:22 JL -> night all - thanks
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