EdTechWeekly#41 - Multiverse, Panraven, Tangler, Grub, & Educational Wikis

EdTechWeekly #41
August 5, 2007

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Chat Log Below

18:37:31  JenMad ->  Hey, John!
18:37:55  JohnSchinker ->  Hi Jen
18:49:42  JenMad ->  Hi, JW
18:50:18  JenniferW ->  Hi Friends
18:51:17  dave ->  yoyo
18:51:32  JenniferW ->  Use CHIPIN to get some $$$$
18:51:53  JenniferW ->  andpersonally -- I ignore google ads
18:52:00  JenniferW ->  LOL -- voting now
18:52:13  JohnSchinker ->  Right. But that doesn't mean that they don't get paid for them.
18:52:37  JohnSchinker ->  Destruction is more fun than construction, Dave
18:52:59  JenniferW ->  took me 8 months to make $100
18:53:06  JenniferW ->  a friend makes $5400 a month
18:53:11  JenniferW ->  not sure what I am doing wrong
18:53:12  JenniferW ->  :)
18:53:27  JohnSchinker ->  You're telling people that no one reads Google ads.
18:53:45  JenniferW ->  on my site -- YES -- on my friends site -- they seem to read them
18:53:48  JenMad ->  I love ads on websites ... who doesn't?
18:54:15  JenniferW ->  I am doing very well being an Amazon Affliate
18:54:20  JohnSchinker ->  Demolition is more fun: http://www.flickr.com/photos/raindog/778831347/
18:54:27  JenniferW ->  you should put books on your site -- you get a payback for each book bough
18:54:31  JenniferW ->  bought
18:54:41  JenMad ->  JW: really? through refs. to books and stuff?
18:54:47  JenniferW ->  YES
18:54:54  JenMad ->  cool!
18:54:58  JenniferW ->  like for Leopard -- I will make $30 per each system purchased
18:55:06  JenniferW ->  when it comes out -- if anyone buys it from my site
18:55:16  JohnSchinker ->  Hello, mthacher
18:56:35  Cathy E ->  Webcast Academy Page looks great :)
18:56:39  JenMad ->  Hi, Cathy E!
18:56:42  JenniferW ->  I twittered too --
18:56:50  JohnSchinker ->  sure, I can do it if there's sufficient interest
18:57:42  JenniferW ->  all sounds OKAY here
18:57:48  mthacher ->  nope, sounds good here
18:58:03  JenMad ->  thank you!
18:59:30  JohnSchinker ->  http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=121712176
19:00:16  JohnSchinker ->  let's do video this week :-)
19:00:19  AliceMercer ->  Okay, who wins the award for biggest PITA among the interns
19:00:25  AliceMercer ->  THis week?
19:00:41  AliceMercer ->  Just try to MUTE ME!
19:00:47  AliceMercer ->  I tend to mute myself.
19:01:01  JohnSchinker ->  One world
19:01:21  JohnSchinker ->  world of (education and technology)
19:01:22  sroseman ->  world of
19:01:25  JenniferW ->  I mute myself too Alice
19:01:41  AliceMercer ->  Dave, I would cancel that appt in Holland, becasue you will never pass for a girl with that voice!
19:02:25  AliceMercer ->  DON"T SAY THAT
19:02:47  dave ->  http://slgames.wordpress.com/2007/04/12/alternatives-to-second-life-uber...
19:03:02  sroseman ->  the populace of
19:03:07  JenniferW ->  grins, did Jen do an intro??
19:03:26  jeff ->  so smooth, we barely notice
19:03:37  JenMad ->  http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20070805
19:03:44  sroseman ->  I have divorced myself from SL for a short while anyways
19:03:54  JenMad ->  http://jaycut.com/
19:04:35  JenMad ->  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/jaycut_online_video_editor.php
19:04:44  jeff ->  http://educationalwikis.wikispaces.com/Examples+of+educational+wikis
19:05:11  sroseman ->  say it quickly 3 times
19:05:30  dave ->  http://gigaom.com/2007/08/03/second-life-finally-gets-a-direct-competito...
19:05:39  AliceMercer ->  Hey J.W.! Wanna do a webcast on Harry Potter 5 in Sandbox later?
19:05:43  JenniferW ->  grins, I am on that page  :)  I believe
19:05:51  JenniferW ->  Ohhh we can try!!!
19:05:58  jeff ->  http://www.multiverse.net/
19:06:20  AliceMercer ->  I managed to stream AND record and Skype today, it could happen, no?
19:06:36  AliceMercer ->  SL [yawn]?
19:06:51  JenniferW ->  I cannot do both yet
19:06:58  JenniferW ->  I can capture ME -- but no one else
19:07:12  AliceMercer ->  Hmm, Mac JDub?
19:07:18  JenniferW ->  Nicecast -- yes
19:07:26  JohnSchinker ->  Cool Dave. Very interesting. You could create a 3d walled garden, then.
19:07:28  AliceMercer ->  I could make suggestion for Win OS, but not Mac
19:07:35  JenMad ->  http://www.panraven.com/
19:07:36  JenniferW ->  I can try on my PC too
19:07:40  AliceMercer ->  Daveland, or I WANNA GO!
19:07:44  dave ->  you got it john!
19:07:51  dave ->  and integrated with our VRE
19:08:03  JenniferW ->  Canyou bring in BRYCE images and scenes??
19:08:12  JohnSchinker ->  so virtual pei then....
19:08:29  jeff ->  http://mashable.com/2007/07/16/wiki-toolbox/
19:08:29  JenniferW ->  HELLO SHARON!!!
19:08:32  JenMad ->  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/create_photobooks_with_panraven.php
19:08:49  dave ->  moi j'aime les poptart
19:08:53  jeff ->  http://www.grub.org/
19:08:53  AliceMercer ->  Can we talk about Dy/Dan contest?
19:09:07  AliceMercer ->  ou est la poptart?
19:09:16  dave ->  moi j'aime les poptart
19:09:35  AliceMercer ->  mais, ou est la poptart Dave!
19:09:39  sharonp ->  moi aussi moi aussi
19:09:43  JohnSchinker ->  les popstart ou les poptarts?
19:09:56  AliceMercer ->  YES where the F are they?
19:10:02  AliceMercer ->  I've been asking that?
19:10:04  AliceMercer ->  Hello!
19:10:08  dave ->  http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=1184
19:10:59  sharonp ->  tetes a claques
19:11:35  AliceMercer ->  DAVE They are reporting it, in California
19:11:41  JenMad ->  http://www.tangler.com/group/11039/discuss
19:11:45  AliceMercer ->  At least on Public Radio?
19:11:50  JenniferW ->  they have recalled A LOT of voting machines
19:11:53  dave ->  right... on public radio
19:11:54  JenniferW ->  A LOT in CA
19:11:59  JenniferW ->  we heard all about it in CA
19:12:10  AliceMercer ->  Dave, Public Radio has a VERY high listenership.
19:12:23  JenniferW ->  I heard all about it on KFI this week
19:12:25  AliceMercer ->  But it looks like a great article.
19:12:33  dave ->  yes... and doesn't have corporate sponsorship... which is mypoint... it has huge readership here as well
19:12:33  JenniferW ->  KFI -- public radio
19:12:39  dave ->  adn listenership
19:12:51  AliceMercer ->  Did we discussioni PanRaven?
19:13:35  AliceMercer ->  Someone's suggesting the Classroom 2.0 would be better?
19:13:45  jeff ->  http://news.com.com/House+panel+approves+legal+shield+for+bloggers/2100-...
19:14:27  sharonp ->  uh-oh - Jen and Jeff are tangling - let's not start rumours, folks
19:14:30  JohnSchinker ->  cnet owns "com.com"?
19:14:36  dave ->  :P
19:14:37  jeff ->  http://www.savenetradio.org/070802-Wyden-Brownback_Statement.pdf
19:14:41  JenMad ->  tee hee :)
19:15:16  dave ->  http://www.codeweavers.com/store/
19:15:31  AliceMercer ->  Oh, anyone listen to the piece on Science Friday about frequency auction
19:16:17  JenMad ->  http://bliin.com/
19:16:30  Cathy E ->  hello all
19:16:35  dave ->  yo
19:17:00  AliceMercer ->  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12487026
19:17:06  JohnSchinker ->  I've heard lots of good things about codeweavers.
19:17:17  dave ->  so far thumbs up from me
19:17:18  AliceMercer ->  I have a twitter plan...
19:17:20  JohnSchinker ->  The conventional wisdom is that it's the way to go if you need to run windows apps on linux
19:17:23  JenniferW ->  is codeweaver selling legal software -- the cost seems not quite right
19:17:25  AliceMercer ->  but geotagging is nto needed
19:17:38  jeff ->  http://www.masternewmedia.org/audio_music_publishing/music-for-video/whe...
19:17:39  dave ->  sure... why wouldn't it be legal?
19:17:39  JenniferW ->  I need to research it a bit more
19:17:48  JenniferW ->  look at the cost for Office --
19:17:55  dave ->  yeah... those guys are theives
19:17:57  JenniferW ->  is it $39.95 for it all
19:17:59  JenniferW ->  LOLOL
19:18:06  JenniferW ->  not saying that -- just need to research it more
19:18:25  dave ->  http://www.networkcomputing.com/channels/storageandservers/showArticle.j...
19:18:30  JohnSchinker ->  No. It allows you to run windows software on a linux box. It doesn't include the windows software
19:18:43  JenniferW ->  just wondering
19:18:50  JenniferW ->  it says Office -- doesn't it???
19:19:02  sharonp ->  did i miss dave c mentioning tetes a claques??
19:19:03  AliceMercer ->  Office has a high legal overhead.
19:19:20  AliceMercer ->  MS, backed by 1,000 copyright attorneys
19:19:21  JenniferW ->  I will go back and reread it more carefully --
19:19:30  JenMad ->  http://www.everex.com/gc3502/index.htm
19:19:42  dave ->  moi j'aime les poptart
19:19:43  JenniferW ->  it also listed Photoshop -- so just wondering
19:19:51  sharonp ->  copyright attorneys, ahhhh yesss, that explains so much
19:19:54  JenniferW ->  what does POPTART mean ??  I am seeing pastries here
19:19:58  dave ->  yeah... it's the advertising that costs even more money!
19:20:01  sharonp ->  hah!
19:20:11  AliceMercer ->  Oh, Robin good left off Free Sound Project
19:20:37  AliceMercer ->  http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php
19:20:48  AliceMercer ->  You can get foley and seffects there
19:20:50  AliceMercer ->  not just music
19:20:53  JenniferW ->  1gb of ram too --
19:20:59  jeff ->  http://oedb.org/library/features/150-writing-resources
19:21:36  JenMad ->  http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/statevirtuallibraries
19:21:39  AliceMercer ->  I remember EVEREX
19:21:48  AliceMercer ->  They were like DELL but local in Calif.
19:21:56  AliceMercer ->  Friend bought one from them
19:22:01  JenniferW ->  weren't they in Newbury Park??
19:22:06  JenniferW ->  hmmmmm
19:22:15  AliceMercer ->  Maybe?
19:22:20  JenniferW ->  I think they were
19:22:28  dave ->  http://geeksandgod.com/forum/all-about-drupal/updating-drupal
19:22:43  dave ->  http://www.jisc.ac.uk/whatwedo/themes/access_management/federation/anima...
19:22:54  sharonp ->  geeksandgod - that is hilarious!
19:23:24  sharonp ->  successes from geeks or god?
19:23:32  JenMad ->  http://blog.ted.com/2007/08/100_websites_yo.php
19:23:44  JenniferW ->  chivalous???
19:23:50  sharonp ->  shibboleth
19:23:54  JenniferW ->  ahhhh thank you
19:24:07  JenMad ->  http://cogdogroo.wikispaces.com/StoryTools
19:24:17  sharonp ->  ...all these religious references!
19:24:42  JenniferW ->  Leveeeen
19:24:44  jeff ->  http://www.hackaday.com/2007/08/03/defcon-15-undercover-reporter-flees/
19:24:48  jeff ->  http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33207/108/
19:24:56  sharonp ->  wth the possible exception of cogdogroo - who apparently can't decide what he/she/IT is
19:26:12  sharonp ->  guess it is hard to imitate a hack!
19:26:27  dave ->  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/29/nteach12...
19:26:31  JenniferW ->  I am now scared
19:26:39  sharonp ->  there goes my next haloween costume
19:26:47  sroseman ->  What was that 50 tools for teachers again..the link
19:26:52  sroseman ->  pretty please
19:27:02  JenniferW ->  Alan Levine's Wiki
19:27:15  JenMad ->  http://cogdogroo.wikispaces.com/StoryTools here you go ...
19:27:19  JenniferW ->  ty
19:27:36  sroseman ->  and the link isthanks
19:27:46  sroseman ->  thnks
19:27:48  Durff ->  limping along here with Pentium laptop & no headphones...so i am not ignoring anyone, just dealing with  computer
19:27:49  sroseman ->  thanks
19:28:21  JenMad ->  http://teaching.mrbelshaw.co.uk/index.php/2007/08/03/8-things-that-irrit...
19:29:01  Lee ->  as in Kooky monster?
19:29:08  dave ->  that kind
19:29:22  sharonp ->  frankly, we need to stretch kids in what ever learning style they are weak
19:29:34  dave ->  uh... yeah.
19:29:36  dave ->  teach them.
19:29:52  dave ->  sure... defintely assess their strengths
19:29:53  jeff ->  http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/1922
19:29:56  dave ->  and weaknesses
19:30:29  jeff ->  http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/1928
19:30:49  JenMad ->  http://www.webbalert.com/
19:30:51  JenniferW ->  I will invite her to Online Projects 4 Teachers
19:31:16  JohnSchinker ->  I thought we were just putting the new server on Jeff's credit card.
19:31:31  JenniferW ->  you NEED to do Amazon Aflliates -- HONEST
19:31:33  Lee ->  :o
19:31:51  Durff ->  lol
19:32:13  JenniferW ->  or try CHIPIN too
19:32:45  jeff ->  http://www.authorgen.com/authorpoint-lite-free/powerpoint-to-flash-conve...
19:33:19  jeff ->  http://www.freshminds.com/animation/alan_watts_zen.html
19:33:19  sharonp ->  oh no, Dave is breathing
19:33:29  JohnSchinker ->  Who owns the webalert domain name?
19:33:38  JenniferW ->  www.whois.com
19:33:46  JenMad ->  http://luckofseven.com/
19:34:04  JenniferW ->  I am checking John
19:34:04  Alice Mercer ->  can you send Dave's links again?
19:34:06  Alice Mercer ->  please?
19:34:28  JohnSchinker ->  webroot software, inc
19:34:47  JenniferW ->  like the people who make SpySweeper??
19:35:39  JohnSchinker ->  sorry. that was webalert.net
19:35:51  JenniferW ->  ahhh
19:35:56  JenniferW ->  still waiting for whois to list info
19:36:29  JohnSchinker ->  webalert.com is owned by Global Interaction in Boston
19:36:53  JenniferW ->  wow -- my who is is slow
19:36:59  jeff ->  http://dnsstuff.com
19:37:10  Durff ->  link to the poll?
19:37:27  JohnSchinker ->  http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=webalert.com
19:37:30  JoseR ->  on front page
19:37:39  JohnSchinker ->  durff: http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/1928
19:37:39  Durff ->  here?
19:37:45  JenniferW ->  looked up Global Interaction -- but there are 3
19:37:47  Durff ->  thanks
19:37:49  JenniferW ->  .com .net .org
19:37:51  JenniferW ->  LOL
19:37:59  Alice Mercer ->  No it's by Oakland/S.F. Dave
19:38:01  Alice Mercer ->  Hello
19:38:10  Alice Mercer ->  I could get there easier
19:38:44  sharonp ->  I have been working on a prof dev survey for needs assessment all week - any trusted testers out there??
19:39:13  JenniferW ->  how will you test us???  LOL
19:39:13  sharonp ->  we are down to a survey that has less than 60 clicks (she cringes)
19:39:47  sharonp ->  you take survey (surveymonkey) and give us feedback - too long, too incoherent... etc.
19:39:53  JenniferW ->  When you use AMAZON affliates -- you can provide educational content and book ideas
19:39:56  JenniferW ->  LOL
19:40:01  JenniferW ->  Sharon -- send me the link
19:40:03  sharonp ->  wow, took me a YEAR to get $10 of google ads
19:40:22  jeff ->  skype 'worldbridges' to join in
19:40:25  JohnSchinker ->  Get in there, JW
19:40:30  JenniferW ->  LOL
19:41:17  Durff ->  what about monthly or weekly sponsors?
19:41:38  JohnSchinker ->  on the shows, Durff?
19:41:45  JohnSchinker ->  or just on the web site?
19:41:59  Durff ->  on worldbbridges
19:42:07  Durff ->  e site
19:42:11  Durff ->  the
19:42:25  JenniferW ->  http://salutetoseuss.wikispaces.com/BookTitles
19:42:25  JohnSchinker ->  that makes sense.
19:42:28  davec ->  who would do the work lining up the sponsorships?
19:42:31  JenniferW ->  I get kick backs on each book
19:42:38  Durff ->  radio stations do it
19:42:39  davec ->  kick backs.
19:42:41  davec ->  yes.
19:42:44  davec ->  they do.
19:42:49  sharonp ->  grants would work
19:42:57  Durff ->  you dave
19:43:02  davec ->  the history of advertising, however, works the other way around
19:43:07  davec ->  the product comes first
19:43:13  davec ->  and then the show is created to sell the product
19:43:26  davec ->  grants would work
19:43:29  sharonp ->  I'm with Dave - skeptical of other involvement
19:43:42  sharonp ->  maybe it is just the Canadian in me
19:43:45  Alice Mercer ->  I like the affiliate idea, because it'll miss the random aspect of google ads
19:43:46  Durff ->  grants how?
19:44:05  davec ->  http://educationbridges.org
19:44:20  sharonp ->  apply for gov't grant or independent grant that allows fro some kind of freedom of expression
19:44:30  sroseman ->  the wiki
19:44:49  Durff ->  i think stakeholders should be peaying
19:44:54  JenniferW ->  grants work great
19:45:35  sharonp ->  sorry Jen, already had it penned in our wiki for WOW2 (just kidding)
19:45:42  JenniferW ->  LOL
19:45:46  JenniferW ->  I knew you would
19:46:01  Alice Mercer ->  I say start with the Amazon and chip-in?
19:46:02  JenniferW ->  you could have affliate links -- we pay you to link to us!!  :)
19:46:14  JenniferW ->  and then you pay us to link to you --
19:46:25  JenniferW ->  LOL -- okay, maybe not  :)
19:46:27  Alice Mercer ->  No, and grant takes time to get going?
19:46:50  JenniferW ->  that is why I don't use Google Ads -- I can't get them to always stay educational
19:47:01  JenniferW ->  perhaps you can share how you can get specific ads
19:47:15  Alice Mercer ->  They are less random over time aren't they?
19:47:16  JenniferW ->  I stay with the STATIC ads -- such as FireFox, Google Docs
19:47:22  Alice Mercer ->  Isn't it based on ad-sense?
19:47:35  JenniferW ->  Alice, I have not been able to train my ads
19:47:39  JenniferW ->  to stay educational
19:47:55  JenMad ->  TOM BROUGHT IN MY NEW MONITOR!!! YIPPIE!!!
19:48:05  JenniferW ->  Yeah!  Tom!!
19:48:15  Durff ->  googles ads solution is not a proactive choice
19:48:21  sharonp ->  x-rated babes of edtech - JenM is there something you are not telling us (hah! remember I am a Women of the web - you should see how often I get kidded about our "calendar")
19:48:29  JenMad ->  My anniversary present ... some woman want jewels ... I want hardware and software!
19:48:34  jeff ->  http://travelbridges.com
19:48:55  JenniferW ->  Sharon -- the speed dating with Sheryl Nussbaum Beach was something FUN to explain
19:49:12  sroseman ->  Speed dating???
19:49:25  sharonp ->  yeah, missed out on being one of Miguel Guhlin's speed dating teachers.... sigh
19:49:27  Durff ->  how did you do that jen?
19:49:31  Alice Mercer ->  Wow, this is sounding uncomfortable?
19:49:38  sharonp ->  would have worn my lip gloss for that!
19:49:49  JenniferW ->  LOL -- Sheryl had set up a scenario where we talked with 4 teachers for 15 minutes each
19:49:50  Durff ->  we know
19:49:51  JenniferW ->  via skype
19:50:03  JenniferW ->  and then at 15 minutes, we got a new group
19:50:09  JenniferW ->  she called it SPEED DATING
19:50:10  sharonp ->  so had Miguel - then there were network probs
19:50:16  JenniferW ->  I think it needed another name
19:50:21  sharonp ->  (sigh - disappointment)
19:50:33  JenniferW ->  yes, the second time -- it did not work out as well
19:50:40  JenniferW ->  but we had used Gizmo
19:50:47  sroseman ->  neat concept
19:51:50  Alice Mercer ->  I'll talk?
19:52:57  sroseman ->   Meow
19:53:15  Durff ->  blueball
19:53:22  Alice Mercer ->  WoW Calendar?
19:53:32  Durff ->  w/ pics
19:54:16  Alice Mercer ->  Of HOT, NEKKID....
19:54:21  Alice Mercer ->  computer parts?
19:54:27  Alice Mercer ->  No clothes!
19:55:47  sharonp ->  you know, it would be fun to put out photos of web 2.0 in the raw - completely unclothed - but it might corrupt too many people - wouldn't want to be responsible for encouraging vice
19:57:48  JenniferW ->  I don't have google ads on amazon links
19:58:00  JenniferW ->  sharon -- WHAT??
19:58:35  JenniferW ->  I need to head out for a bit
19:58:37  sharonp ->  Jen - we are being sillyy
19:58:39  JenniferW ->  thanks for a good chat
19:58:41  JenniferW ->  I hope so --
19:58:50  JenniferW ->  I mean , diet is going okay -- but NOT ready for Prime Time
19:58:52  JenniferW ->  :)
20:00:42  sharonp ->  gonna head out too - good evening to all!
20:01:50  davec ->  later folks
20:01:54  davec ->  i'm out too
20:01:58  davec ->  :)
20:02:20  Alice Mercer ->  Hey, that was my Vampire/VAC post
20:05:11  sroseman ->  Thanks all I am out